The majority opposition party gets 1 parliamentary question per month which goes to a vote. Labour asked the question tories voted for continuing our rivers being polluted
The tories have been opposing doing anything to fix this. The environment secretary just jokes about it. This is tactically a good move. This vote gives the tories a a simple choice. Vote to end sewage dumping in the sea or show the voting public that you are absolutely opposed to cleaning up their seas. Neither choice is what the tore will want to do
every raw sewage discharge needs to have an automatic financial penalty, no loopholes, just fixed fines for every single offence. Private companies only care about profits. Make it unprofitable to discharge raw sewage and the problem is fixed
3. 3 years. Because Philip Dunne only became involved 3 years ago and it wasn't on ANY politicians radar regardless of party affiliation prior to Dunne. What's happened is, for more than 60 years of Labour, Tories and Lib Dems no one has done anything about this issue. No one has even thought about it in the last 20 years. Until Philip Dunne. He made a big thing about it and insisted something be done. Now something is being done Labour and Lib Dems are engaging in politically grandstanding that it isn't enough when they haven't had any policy on this for the last 60 years and they wouldn't make the changes they're grandstanding on if they were in government anyway.
Dont give the Water companies any leeway!! The only way to fix the problem is by fining every single sewage discharge made by the Water companies. The current legislation allows a percentage of raw sewage discharge, and the water companies use the full percentage regardless if actually needed
Exactly, make it illegal. Foreign-owned water companies will always maximise profit rather than pay extra to responsibly care for our environment. They're not a charity. They won't pay to upgrade and repair infrastructure unless forced.
@@jeffsterling2809 I don't think it matters whether they are British or foreign private companies. They all think the same way, maximise profits and use all possible loopholes available to save operating costs. That's the problem, allowing some raw sewage discharge into our rivers and coastline without any consequences is not acceptable. There are rare occasions during heavy prolonged rainfall when sewage discharge is inevitable, but the data shows most companies are using this loophole to their full advantage, saving money by purposely discharging raw sewage when it could be processed as usual,
I live in Devon , South West Water have one of the highest water rates bills supposedly to keep our tourist industry beaches clean , Guess what they are number 4 in the top 10 water companies releasing sewage into our rivers , just where do they think this water ends up ?
ikr … When I saw that I had to immediately come to the comment section. It seems a little odd, not to mention dangerous. I like swimming too … but not THAT much.
People should stop paying the water company bills as it is a breach of contract as some of the charge is supposed to be for keeping the beaches free of sewage along with the rivers so don't pay your bills and the share holders can sing the government only did the sewage pipe in London when the stink got to bad in the river Thames at Westminster so stop letting them ignore the people stop the money
simple solution for this one. for every gallon of raw sewage dumped into the environment, the directors of the water companies will be forced to drink one glass of sewage. That'll fix the problem in no time.
As if the CONServatibe party have not been responsible for 13 years .. yet it's everyone else to blame .. enough is enough ..time for a government ..not an oligarchy
@Geoff Green yip, I work on water infrastructure overseas (where it is funded better) and I think the scale of the uk problem is being vastly undestimated.
Dumping sewage anywhere not designated for it should be illegal and should have massive fines associated with it that cannot be weaseled out of. As long as the water companies can get away with failing to fix leaks and dumping sewage with no consequences to their financial bottom line they will continue to do so. Unfortunately these companies DO NOT care about anyone other than their investors and owners, and they in turn care about their bottom line far more than doing what's right
Let them calculate their profits after they have treated the sewage. Dumping raw sewage is rightly seen as a disgusting practice that should not be accepred as a necessity in 2023.
I think this is apalling; as well as the obvious threat to our health and other animals, it's a terrible thing for our country. What tourist would want to come to our island with this level of pollution? Anyone who votes Tory is effectively saying that sewage in our rivers and seas is fine.
Such a perfect reflection of Tory government. The massive investment needed has not been made. Estimates of the capital expenditure required to achieve EU standards and meet the existing backlog in infrastructure maintenance ranged from £24 to £30 billion.
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I have a boat on the Thames & it TRULY is disgusting. It is so bad already this year that their are dead fish, nesting wildfoal have abandoned their nests & gone!!. I wrote to the Ministers in this news programme over a month ago & they didn't even reply & they are lying if they say they are doing something. What is going on in this country, immigraton out of control, poisoning our rivers, poisoning our skys, inflation out of control, crime is on increase, this country is a sh*thole & I'm ashamed of it.
Since the privatisation of our services we have been going backwards towards the 16th century Bit the biggest problem is that if you fine these phukers they pass it straight back to the customers with higher charges What needs to be done is every big boss should be imprisoned on criminal charges say 10 years for every breach , you’ll definitely see a massive change as these bosses don’t want to be imprisoned
All of the discussion misses the real reason for this happening. Private enterprise was encouraged to own our water supplies and profit took precedence over maintenance and improvement of our infrastructure. Political scoring is now at the forefront of the need for public safety. Legislation to ensure that companies pay!
The conservatives protecting the water company's share holders... reduction plans??? It has to stop and water company's forced to build out there outdated systems. Not just fines . Prison time to. The cost of fines will just be passed onto customers.
Water Companies face heavy criticism and rightly so and there should be no dividend paid to shareholders until the problems are overcome. There are a number of environment factors apart from high rainfall which make the situation worse
What is going on with these two women in the report? They know raw sewage is being dumped, they continue to swim through what they know to be raw sewage then gleefully exclaim "We swam through other people's sh**!" followed by laughter. Do they not actually comprehend what they're doing, or what? It's always so unhelpful when someone sees a privately held business making profit and says something dumb like "we can use those profits to fix the problem". Back in reality, any costs you impose on a privately held business will be passed to customers directly and those profits won't be impacted. If anything they'll use the whole exercise to raise prices higher than needed to cover the newly imposed costs to increase profit further. Understanding that reality is key to dealing with private industry. Anyone claiming you could force private business to pay through their profits is out to lunch and has no business being in government. Utterly appalling that for 60+ years this has been going on and it's only in the last 3 that anyone has thought to try to resolve the issue. Disgusting political grandstanding today. Good on Philip Dunne.
People should stop paying water bills why should public pay water bills sewerage pumped into rivers and seaside rotten with sewarage and all money public paying towards bills going to shareholders
"Compel water companies" just legislate already.... memorandums of understanding never work especially when they hit dividends. If the Tories could they'd privatise oxygen flogging it off on the cheap to their mates in their secret VIP lanes
This has really ruined my view of the UK more than anything else. People love to make fun of India for all of its open defecation, but this is much worse in a way!
This doesn’t need a vote. Just sort it out immediately and prosecute water companies.
The majority opposition party gets 1 parliamentary question per month which goes to a vote. Labour asked the question tories voted for continuing our rivers being polluted
Tell that to the Tories who despise "regulation". They won't do anything, they know who they work for and it's no us.
The tories have been opposing doing anything to fix this. The environment secretary just jokes about it.
This is tactically a good move. This vote gives the tories a a simple choice. Vote to end sewage dumping in the sea or show the voting public that you are absolutely opposed to cleaning up their seas. Neither choice is what the tore will want to do
It does need a vote, so the conservatives can decide we aren't going to do it.
every raw sewage discharge needs to have an automatic financial penalty, no loopholes, just fixed fines for every single offence. Private companies only care about profits. Make it unprofitable to discharge raw sewage and the problem is fixed
In today's day and age we should be not be dumping sewerage into our rivers it is a national disgrace.
Tell me about it 😒
There's literally nothing left the governments haven't screwed up. They are more of a hindrance than a help.
The major parties are, that's for sure. Voting in independents at the next election would shake things up and get things done.
Says an A. I.
@TJ Marx no its on the tories. No independents wouldn't help our siht hole of a country recover
@@calcutlass It may surprise you but I am a human being!
@@tjmarx yeah right ,same old right wing rogues
Take back the water companies
Keir starmer doesn't believe in Nationalising anymore.
nationalise it? It just goes to the government lol and everything the government touches goes to sh!t
Already ‘being done’ but taking 13 years to implement
3. 3 years. Because Philip Dunne only became involved 3 years ago and it wasn't on ANY politicians radar regardless of party affiliation prior to Dunne.
What's happened is, for more than 60 years of Labour, Tories and Lib Dems no one has done anything about this issue. No one has even thought about it in the last 20 years. Until Philip Dunne.
He made a big thing about it and insisted something be done. Now something is being done Labour and Lib Dems are engaging in politically grandstanding that it isn't enough when they haven't had any policy on this for the last 60 years and they wouldn't make the changes they're grandstanding on if they were in government anyway.
Good old privatisation, never mind the polution feel the profit!
Thatcher was totally wrong but she knew she was talking sewage, same as brexit sewage
Dont give the Water companies any leeway!! The only way to fix the problem is by fining every single sewage discharge made by the Water companies. The current legislation allows a percentage of raw sewage discharge, and the water companies use the full percentage regardless if actually needed
Exactly, make it illegal. Foreign-owned water companies will always maximise profit rather than pay extra to responsibly care for our environment. They're not a charity. They won't pay to upgrade and repair infrastructure unless forced.
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@@jeffsterling2809 I don't think it matters whether they are British or foreign private companies. They all think the same way, maximise profits and use all possible loopholes available to save operating costs. That's the problem, allowing some raw sewage discharge into our rivers and coastline without any consequences is not acceptable. There are rare occasions during heavy prolonged rainfall when sewage discharge is inevitable, but the data shows most companies are using this loophole to their full advantage, saving money by purposely discharging raw sewage when it could be processed as usual,
I live in Devon , South West Water have one of the highest water rates bills supposedly to keep our tourist industry beaches clean , Guess what they are number 4 in the top 10 water companies releasing sewage into our rivers , just where do they think this water ends up ?
Stop paying the sewage part of your bill. Let them try to prosecute you. They will fail
Absolutely disgusting.
Hang on - these people knowingly swim in this?
ikr … When I saw that I had to immediately come to the comment section. It seems a little odd, not to mention dangerous. I like swimming too … but not THAT much.
This Tory guy keeps blaming labour for this... Does he forget whose been in power for the last 13 years?
People should stop paying the water company bills as it is a breach of contract as some of the charge is supposed to be for keeping the beaches free of sewage along with the rivers so don't pay your bills and the share holders can sing the government only did the sewage pipe in London when the stink got to bad in the river Thames at Westminster so stop letting them ignore the people stop the money
If they know this has been a problem for the last 60 years, why have they done nothing for the last 13 years?
At what point will the British stand up to the Torries? There is not a single "regular person" who has benefited from their custodianship.
simple solution for this one. for every gallon of raw sewage dumped into the environment, the directors of the water companies will be forced to drink one glass of sewage. That'll fix the problem in no time.
As if the CONServatibe party have not been responsible for 13 years .. yet it's everyone else to blame .. enough is enough ..time for a government ..not an oligarchy
Everything the Tories touch turns to sh!t. In this case, literally.
This is disgusting...this is something you'd see in medieval times. Why is this ok and not an immediate health crisis???
This will take a decade or more to fix, even if billions are dropped in this.
The infrastructure needs serious work, not just a quick fix!
Indeed! £700bn to fix it.
@Geoff Green yip, I work on water infrastructure overseas (where it is funded better) and I think the scale of the uk problem is being vastly undestimated.
The great stink!
This is why I love C4 and this is why Nadine and her merry band of F-wits wanted to sell it.
I wouldn't swim in that river. I even hated swimming lessons at school because of kids surreptitiously pissing in the pool.
They’re probably Tory voters now
I know this country has not always been great, but i dont recognise it anymore
A Tory legacy👍🏻 And food banks
This septic isle, courtesy of the lava (tory) party. Try and save yourself as we circle the drain !
This unclean and unpleasant land,
They cause the pollution costing ten billion to rectify and the customer is expected to pay for the damage that the rich companies caused😮😮😮😮
Well, at least the rivers are sovereign!
Ah the invisible hand of capitalism yet again showing what happens if you let it do what it wants with no one to challenge them. Pure avarice.
It was government who admitted another million migrants last year with no additional infrastructure to support them
The tench have been replaced with a stench
And birds with turds...
and shrews with poos...
and waterfowl with water foul
The lies and grandstanding by the Tory government is sickening
Shocking thing is that they probably be elected again next year
This problem exists for decades
Uk is going back to Victorian times fast!
It was better then
General election as soon as possible is what's needed! Tories out!!!
Having lived most of my life in South Africa, it saddens me to find the UK coming ever closer to South African standards: none!
This is happening for decades.
North Atlantic Ocean has a garbage patch
72 billion gone to shareholders
Dumping sewage anywhere not designated for it should be illegal and should have massive fines associated with it that cannot be weaseled out of. As long as the water companies can get away with failing to fix leaks and dumping sewage with no consequences to their financial bottom line they will continue to do so. Unfortunately these companies DO NOT care about anyone other than their investors and owners, and they in turn care about their bottom line far more than doing what's right
And charge £50 a year for a fishing rod licence for 3 rods 😡
The turds on the benches gave us turds on the beaches.
is this england or india?
The Thames is just like the Ganges., 💩💩💩💩
Englandistan.
Rotten rivers, raw sewage and a photo of Starmer all work well together!
This really needs to be stopped now! Stop paying your water bills until they sort it!!
I saw it in Vauxhall and it stunk so bad… I can’t even go on. It is a wicked act that they treat people like this! Why would they do this? Such evil!
Why don't we all just stop paying?
Oh my god everything is so disgusting 🤢
Rivers are not sewage dump !!
Let them calculate their profits after they have treated the sewage. Dumping raw sewage is rightly seen as a disgusting practice that should not be accepred as a necessity in 2023.
Wow. Im not labour, but this Thomas Dunne guy - trying to defend this, and in the way he does - its evil.
Wtf?! Wtf?!! How is this allowed?!?
You took back control…
I wouldn't swim in there if they pay me ! 💩
"Brexit means Brexit"! When you enter UK trains they stink as well - they should look for sewage even there.
I think this is apalling; as well as the obvious threat to our health and other animals, it's a terrible thing for our country. What tourist would want to come to our island with this level of pollution? Anyone who votes Tory is effectively saying that sewage in our rivers and seas is fine.
How would that even be allowed in EU? Of course Britain is not in EU anymore, but it was earlier. Disgusting!
Such a perfect reflection of Tory government.
The massive investment needed has not been made.
Estimates of the capital expenditure required to achieve EU standards and meet the existing backlog in infrastructure maintenance ranged from £24 to £30 billion.
This problem exists for decades
Watch this and weep
Did the Environmental Minister say there are 'reduction' plans. REDUCTION, why isn't it zero?
Why would you swim in it!!!
The government should ban sewage dumping in our rivers!
Take back water companies to public control
On Thursday 20th November 2014, for the first time in 170 years, #UK #parliament has debated the creation of #money. Few people know that 97% of our money supply is created not by the #government (or the central bank), but by commercial #banks in the form of #loans.
As the results of our recent poll show, most MPs lack a sufficient understanding of money creation. A worrying number of our #MPs do not understand where money comes from. This leaves them ill-equipped to predict another #financial crisis, deal with rising debt, #housing bubbles or understand a fundamental driver of #inequality.
#PositiveMoney.
I have a boat on the Thames & it TRULY is disgusting. It is so bad already this year that their are dead fish, nesting wildfoal have abandoned their nests & gone!!. I wrote to the Ministers in this news programme over a month ago & they didn't even reply & they are lying if they say they are doing something. What is going on in this country, immigraton out of control, poisoning our rivers, poisoning our skys, inflation out of control, crime is on increase, this country is a sh*thole & I'm ashamed of it.
Used to do kayaking in Richmond. So much for the Thames “being clean”, capsizing was horrendous getting in that water.
Since the privatisation of our services we have been going backwards towards the 16th century
Bit the biggest problem is that if you fine these phukers they pass it straight back to the customers with higher charges
What needs to be done is every big boss should be imprisoned on criminal charges say 10 years for every breach , you’ll definitely see a massive change as these bosses don’t want to be imprisoned
Wow... Nearly as much 💩💩💩 flowing by parliament as there is flowing from it! 🙄🙄 Who knew! 😝
How can they swim there? 🤮
The sewage is flowing right through yet these women still choose to swim in it. Rather confusing and unsavoury to me.
1:40 🎶A good sh**e isn't hard to find... 🎶
All of the discussion misses the real reason for this happening. Private enterprise was encouraged to own our water supplies and profit took precedence over maintenance and improvement of our infrastructure. Political scoring is now at the forefront of the need for public safety. Legislation to ensure that companies pay!
Way bigger population.
Sewerage infrastructure not updated.
Literally what has happened everywhere.
Govt better take back control of the waterworks. I want to see clean waters when I visit the coast.
Needs to be an illegal Act even one liter of sewege into the river
Just ban idiots from swimming in rivers, we have swimming pools for that.
That’s not the point .
Governments are the blight ☝️
I can't understand why anyone would get into the water knowing what they know.
Do people still honestly believe anything from the tories just wanted to generally know….
Why is he talking about our capital investment, that’s why they privatised water so the the private companies would sort that. FM🤮
The conservatives protecting the water company's share holders... reduction plans??? It has to stop and water company's forced to build out there outdated systems. Not just fines . Prison time to. The cost of fines will just be passed onto customers.
Water Companies face heavy criticism and rightly so and there should be no dividend paid to shareholders until the problems are overcome. There are a number of environment factors apart from high rainfall which make the situation worse
Jesus, I'm all for making this known but you gonna swim in it for this video?
What is going on with these two women in the report? They know raw sewage is being dumped, they continue to swim through what they know to be raw sewage then gleefully exclaim "We swam through other people's sh**!" followed by laughter. Do they not actually comprehend what they're doing, or what?
It's always so unhelpful when someone sees a privately held business making profit and says something dumb like "we can use those profits to fix the problem". Back in reality, any costs you impose on a privately held business will be passed to customers directly and those profits won't be impacted. If anything they'll use the whole exercise to raise prices higher than needed to cover the newly imposed costs to increase profit further. Understanding that reality is key to dealing with private industry. Anyone claiming you could force private business to pay through their profits is out to lunch and has no business being in government.
Utterly appalling that for 60+ years this has been going on and it's only in the last 3 that anyone has thought to try to resolve the issue. Disgusting political grandstanding today. Good on Philip Dunne.
It called price control which would be part of the punishment. And if they go bankrupt it means government can buy the water company cheap.
@@diogenesPL That's not how any of that works. This isn't Soviet Cuba.
People should stop paying water bills why should public pay water bills sewerage pumped into rivers and seaside rotten with sewarage and all money public paying towards bills going to shareholders
Well said. I'm in Scotland, our local river Almond is in a terrible state! In to them.
Scottish Water is dumping? 🤔
@@DrumToTheBassWoop defo in Greenock they are
Needs to be an effective regulator.
Just lets all just keep paying stealth taxes on things, things like Rod tax to the environment agency which is another bbc
Utterly disgusting. I can't believe people still go swimming in rivers Knowing what's going on ! Shame UK....u have wonderful nature.
Don't worry, the free market will sort it out...
Not a year ago, the source of the Thames dried up; how many rivers are used to wash raw sewage out to sea. 💩
There is plenty of evidence of swimmer and surfers going to hospital.
"Compel water companies" just legislate already.... memorandums of understanding never work especially when they hit dividends.
If the Tories could they'd privatise oxygen flogging it off on the cheap to their mates in their secret VIP lanes
This has really ruined my view of the UK more than anything else.
People love to make fun of India for all of its open defecation, but this is much worse in a way!
And the country is full of litter as well
Privatised water companies....what could go wrong?
Raw Tory sewage.
Welcome to the Brexit. This has only been possible due to the cutting of EU red tape
It is time tax payers funded the billions needed for a complete overhaul of the sewerage system.
To me, listening to Starmer is sewage dumping on the eardrum.
Simple don't throw Diane abbot in the river
Is Labour going to plug the sewage with Dianne Abbott then?
Share holders and CEO's 1st.......Environment 2nd.....Grrrrr
They all sail in the same boat I'm sick of the lot of the I'm voting reform
Toryland - the land of Food banks and sewage.
Renationalise water companies they are not fit for purpose and more interested in profits
It literally should be From this moment on. No dumping your shite
Fancy a swim in a river full of s? Yeah why not, great fun.😆