Who said police must go down?. Police dont risk with life u have children athome who depend on you.that people are relaxing underground they will come back.
Even Emergency Workers (EMS) cannot go underground to save those criminals.Policy is always to look after your safety first.Youbarennot a hero to put your live in danger.Its NOT ALLOWED.
But how did these miners use to come out on their own? Why should it be the police's responsibility to figure out how they come out now? Why can't they use their original method to emerge to the surface?
@stephen the mine is not safe the miners confirmed that and that's why police refuse to go inside and the illegal miners knew that is not safe but they continued go inside.
When I heard that a loaf can cost up to R250, I just knew that the mine owner doesn't really care about what happens with the mine as long as the illegal miners will buy bread.
All the judges must be examined. Cos they let illegal immigrants to flourish. They let criminals to get away with crime. If you catch a brazen thief, police arrest you and the judge find you guilty by protecting your property
I remember last month they were brandishing AK47 challenging police. The police ran away in front of TV news camera. They(police) later asked soldiers to help
This a deliberate stalemate orchestrated by their boss sies mahn all they have to do is get out nobody is stopping them. They are in essence resisting arrest which should be added to their charge sheet. As for the high court nxla
Well they can surface any time they want. They choose not to, because they are crooks. And what is Mantashe going to do? Also look at a hole in the ground?
The shaft is too dark and too deep for the justice system to go down there, They will soon surface due to lack of supplies just be patient. God bless Thank you 💕...
SAPS are citizens too. I would not want my loved one willfully going into a space that’s a hazard! It’s an officially closed mine, we know zama zamas are heavily armed & they have explosives. That would be wilfully negligent. The Zama zamas must come out if they don’t want to it’s their right .
They knew how to get in and out all the time why must the SAPS risk their lives they should not have been there in the first place and to give them food and water really nakes no sense
The REAL criminals here are the owners of this mine shaft who ABANDONNED it and did not secure the site or fill-in the shaft when they abandoned the project. Who is responsible if children fell down this big hole shaft because there is no fence? Why is the hole still open for people to climb down?
@@AlidaBikane-m6n these people have big cranes and excavators to remove the concrete and soil so that the shaft is open? Did the owner of this mine close the hole (blast it) with dynamite when he abandoned the mine?
Its true even if you buy a house &abandon it for yrs without locked or fenced the paraz will occupy the hse coz they need shelter,will you come out here&say they illegally occupied your hse?
Our constitution is protecting the rights of the zama zama. Hence, the court order was granted.For the first time, I see Mme Mathe not having confidence
The mines allow these things to happen so they can make a bit of extra cash. If you're familiar with Mine Security in South it makes no sense that a couple thousand people working on their land were not noticed. As much as we want to paint these miners as the bad guys, the mine, the government, the community and the police are all complicit. THEY LET THIS HAPPEN
@kevon_shabangu they did let this happen but law enforcement are being shot at by zama zama when they go to reinforce laws. Since the Marikina massacre the government is threading thinly around mine workers because we, the same people who are complaining, we will turn around and paint the government xenophobic, inhumane, murderers and so on so forth. Damned if you do and damned if you don't 🤷♀️
Why all this noise about saving illegal operations? There were people who were at work legally at Liily mine. No chance was taken to go and rescue them. Their families have not gotten any closure to date. Thank you SAPS for not taking that risky, dangerous chance. The way the got in let them go out. Its not inhuman that's the truth. They gave them food to regain strength let them come out now, heh. Ntshavheni i agree with you 100 %. If they see soil coming down, their adrenaline will carry them out. The NGOs or groups that always work against our government must just leave our country. They are only causing confusion. We have a lot of problems to focus on. No one send them there. SORRY!
I still want to know where they get fresh air/oxygen from? They lady mentioned toxic gases, which in the past killed many underground miners. The situation is even getting worse due to a lack of toilets. Are those zama zamas immune to those gases, or are there other smaller shafts supplying fresh air to them?
For how many years are this going on the community knew what was going on. Who benefits and who is dealing with them. Al of a sudden this is a sad story. Distracted by the fact that their is cause of more serious problems than they.
😂Rescue from what exactly, you numb skull..They can come out like the others.. They're not trapped. Who in their right mind sends their men into what could potentially lead into an ambush if they're already bashing each other upside down on their heads😳smh
Camera man dira tiro ya gago.O dikgato di le 2 go tswa monna wame.Leba kwa😂. Ke eng ba sa romele Drone mo teng gore re kgone go bona diphelelo tsa dihele mmogo le di ZamaZuma or ZamaZama 😢
If you have been starved for a 3 week and without water will you have the energy to walk ?tht is common sense you won't have the energy it's only tht hatred and shallow mind are at work here,lets use our five sense to think its not painful to think
It's advisable to follow the story carefully. These illegal miners were given supplies by the police in order to regain strength to resurface...but did they do...they enjoyed the food and continued to stay under ground willingly. It was only when the supplies were stopped that many people started making noise. Remember, they have been under ground for some months. It therefore goes without saying that they have amassed gold which they wouldn't like to give away. In addition they have got guns which they wouldn't like to hand over to the police. Lastly there is also a possibility of being arrested.
The strategy of the state and the police is simply wrong, the state should organise relevant people with the necessary skills to go underground and have those people rescued. Using the same tactics that the state of Israel is using in Gaza is exceedingly inhumane and places the democratic state at the same par with the state of Israeli.
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Thank you SAPS. Your duty is not to deliberately put your lives in unnecessary danger for anyone has deliberately broken the law.
Trus its not safe and not their duty to go inside
Ellegal miners must come out on their own to save themselves
Who said police must go down?. Police dont risk with life u have children athome who depend on you.that people are relaxing underground they will come back.
This was not a wise move, the country is going to spend a lot to save those starving guys
Even Emergency Workers (EMS) cannot go underground to save those criminals.Policy is always to look after your safety first.Youbarennot a hero to put your live in danger.Its NOT ALLOWED.
Are these zamazamas babies? Do they need to be carried out? How did they got there?
What a great question 😅
That beautiful police might change her mind will give food to miners little by little
@@Tsie1And they will stay another 2 months underground.
It seems so. There are like those spoiled brat children
What if the zamazamas hold the rescuers hostage ?Well done and well said Police officer with your fluent English
Anyone with the brain won't go there. Cos the gang leaders are holding them hostage, so that it look like they refuse to resurface
If they don’t want to come out voluntarily, LEAVE THEM DOWN THERE!!!
FINISH ñ KLAAR!
Mme Mathe and her team has been firm and consistent with their stance. South Africa is behind men and women in blue.
Stand your ground SAPS🎉
Thank you to ma'm Athanda, you are a very good spokesperson. Hoping this situation will be resolved soon, before more lives are lost 🙏🏼
Orginized crime playing games with South Africa. Stand strong SAPS🇿🇦💪
why should our police risk their lives for this people the got in they can get out
This beautiful brigadier does a brilliant job whenever I see her on the news 👌
But how did these miners use to come out on their own? Why should it be the police's responsibility to figure out how they come out now? Why can't they use their original method to emerge to the surface?
@stephen the mine is not safe the miners confirmed that and that's why police refuse to go inside and the illegal miners knew that is not safe but they continued go inside.
They are weak, they have not eaten for a long time. They are eating toothpaste and other things. What a life!
The criminals are refusing to resurface cos they are afraid of arrest
This is a Mafia game, the supply chain is long, it begins with the miner, security, buyers, food suppliers, end user,
When I heard that a loaf can cost up to R250, I just knew that the mine owner doesn't really care about what happens with the mine as long as the illegal miners will buy bread.
And Politicians and SA Intel
Don't forget ANC leaders
I agree with SAPS don't go down
At this point, Media is working for or with Zamazamas by treating them like saints. That Judge needs to be checked as well coz wtf??
All the judges must be examined. Cos they let illegal immigrants to flourish. They let criminals to get away with crime. If you catch a brazen thief, police arrest you and the judge find you guilty by protecting your property
The High Court order what?😂😂😂 who is refusing them to come up/out
No one
Nobody
I remember last month they were brandishing AK47 challenging police. The police ran away in front of TV news camera. They(police) later asked soldiers to help
@@aarongunnz9513 you see
This a deliberate stalemate orchestrated by their boss sies mahn all they have to do is get out nobody is stopping them. They are in essence resisting arrest which should be added to their charge sheet.
As for the high court nxla
Well done saps
The minister of police must continue standing his ground on not sending his people there….
Well they can surface any time they want. They choose not to, because they are crooks. And what is Mantashe going to do? Also look at a hole in the ground?
This police woman is beauty🙄🙄
Police mustn't go therr is not their line of duty, this people went there knowing wat they were doing
The shaft is too dark and too deep for the justice system to go down there,
They will soon surface due to lack of supplies just be patient.
God bless
Thank you 💕...
Yes that high court Judge must go in there and give them food and water...don't risk the lives of our men and women in blue.
Besides the darkness, there might be poison gasses stuck there
They must resufarce only because nobody is closing the shaft but they decided to stay inside there
Who was giving them food before?
Kingpin
@@AlidaBikane-m6nWhere is he now?suppose in Hiding
...The Kingpin
The owner of the mines should be heavily fined and face criminal charges for leaving the mines open.
SAPS are citizens too. I would not want my loved one willfully going into a space that’s a hazard! It’s an officially closed mine, we know zama zamas are heavily armed & they have explosives. That would be wilfully negligent. The Zama zamas must come out if they don’t want to it’s their right .
Remember that these zama zamas have military art weapons. As soon as police land, they will maul them
Our police are not responsible for rescue operations like this. They have a right to say no.
They knew how to get in and out all the time why must the SAPS risk their lives they should not have been there in the first place and to give them food and water really nakes no sense
That pulley system is is world class precision engineering.
Those who gave them to go ahead with their dirty duty they must tell them it's time for jail tired of being controlled by this arrogant people
The REAL criminals here are the owners of this mine shaft who ABANDONNED it and did not secure the site or fill-in the shaft when they abandoned the project. Who is responsible if children fell down this big hole shaft because there is no fence? Why is the hole still open for people to climb down?
Zama zama opens the shaft for themselves whom are thy working for whose the kingpin
@@AlidaBikane-m6n these people have big cranes and excavators to remove the concrete and soil so that the shaft is open? Did the owner of this mine close the hole (blast it) with dynamite when he abandoned the mine?
Bullshit.
@@markloubser2433 thanks for your intelligent input. Did you use both of your braincells to type that?
Its true even if you buy a house &abandon it for yrs without locked or fenced the paraz will occupy the hse coz they need shelter,will you come out here&say they illegally occupied your hse?
Its not in the police job description!!!!
Our constitution is protecting the rights of the zama zama. Hence, the court order was granted.For the first time, I see Mme Mathe not having confidence
Why was this shaft not closed down during rehabilitation process?
The mines allow these things to happen so they can make a bit of extra cash.
If you're familiar with Mine Security in South it makes no sense that a couple thousand people working on their land were not noticed.
As much as we want to paint these miners as the bad guys, the mine, the government, the community and the police are all complicit.
THEY LET THIS HAPPEN
The shaft was closed.. zama zama opened it. You can clearly see the concrete with steel bars.
When a mine is sealed with concrete they drill through it. You can see an example of this here and in the Carte Blanche documentary by Masa
@kevon_shabangu they did let this happen but law enforcement are being shot at by zama zama when they go to reinforce laws. Since the Marikina massacre the government is threading thinly around mine workers because we, the same people who are complaining, we will turn around and paint the government xenophobic, inhumane, murderers and so on so forth. Damned if you do and damned if you don't 🤷♀️
What will happen if they refused to get out off the shaft?(As long as chain food supply is recommended),no one need to be easily arrested).
Please do not, your families and citizens need you
Why all this noise about saving illegal operations? There were people who were at work legally at Liily mine. No chance was taken to go and rescue them. Their families have not gotten any closure to date. Thank you SAPS for not taking that risky, dangerous chance. The way the got in let them go out. Its not inhuman that's the truth.
They gave them food to regain strength let them come out now, heh. Ntshavheni i agree with you 100 %.
If they see soil coming down, their adrenaline will carry them out. The NGOs or groups that always work against our government must just leave our country. They are only causing confusion. We have a lot of problems to focus on. No one send them there. SORRY!
I still want to know where they get fresh air/oxygen from? They lady mentioned toxic gases, which in the past killed many underground miners. The situation is even getting worse due to a lack of toilets. Are those zama zamas immune to those gases, or are there other smaller shafts supplying fresh air to them?
Pitch dark and no food.. must be a nightmare 😮
Gwede is scared that his big tummy will gravitate into the hole while he is peaking over it 😡
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Those guys are armed and dangerous. They dont want to come out to be arrested.
If they give them food , they will continue to mine 😢
What if they are held hostage there because it is said these people are heavily armed down there
That's why police won't go there
For how many years are this going on the community knew what was going on. Who benefits and who is dealing with them. Al of a sudden this is a sad story. Distracted by the fact that their is cause of more serious problems than they.
Only a South African can describe a 2km vertical shaft as "quite steep"..
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Hlampe bekumele sikuchaze ngolimi lwethu ngoba kahle kahle awungeni ndawo vele eyndabeni zaseSouth Africa🙄
Go down there and rescue them
Released without consequences?
The things is are still even down there. So many of tunnels interlink. Probably standing on the hill and laughing.
So our news channels don't have drones like we cant be shown a whole in an angle at this day and age.
Good!
Why not send them some tik tokers while we at it.
💀
No network coverage down there
Asikhohlwanga izinto o zama zama abazenze kwi community (the rape of models'the couples ababephukelwe imoto) they are not trapped abafuni ukuphuma
The judge forgot. The human rights commission forgot. But me personally I didn't forget
Does this mean that SA has the useless rescue team?
🤣🤣 may be 🤷
No it's mean that your a poes that's clueless.
They armed, idiot
😂Rescue from what exactly, you numb skull..They can come out like the others.. They're not trapped. Who in their right mind sends their men into what could potentially lead into an ambush if they're already bashing each other upside down on their heads😳smh
To rescue who actually?
Automatic justice 😅
The fire brigade?
The fire brigade and ambulance are not allowed in if it unsafe. These zamma zammas are heavily armed.
Camera man dira tiro ya gago.O dikgato di le 2 go tswa monna wame.Leba kwa😂. Ke eng ba sa romele Drone mo teng gore re kgone go bona diphelelo tsa dihele mmogo le di ZamaZuma or ZamaZama 😢
Still a long way to go in Africa.....Poverty and desperation push a person to go down that hole. One day, kuzolunga guyz.
Best joke on TH-cam
If you have been starved for a 3 week and without water will you have the energy to walk ?tht is common sense you won't have the energy it's only tht hatred and shallow mind are at work here,lets use our five sense to think its not painful to think
You didn't follow this news from the beginning. These people were allowed access to food and water and after that still they refused to resurface
They don't want the supplies food, they prefer the R250 loaf of bread instead.
Sounds like thinking really hurts your brain! They are not supposed to be there on the first place, and no one stopped them from coming out, weeks ago
So in the past how were they doing? Were they helped? And they knew the consequences why would someones child, parent be risking their lives?
It's advisable to follow the story carefully. These illegal miners were given supplies by the police in order to regain strength to resurface...but did they do...they enjoyed the food and continued to stay under ground willingly. It was only when the supplies were stopped that many people started making noise. Remember, they have been under ground for some months. It therefore goes without saying that they have amassed gold which they wouldn't like to give away. In addition they have got guns which they wouldn't like to hand over to the police. Lastly there is also a possibility of being arrested.
Starving them of food and water? That is inhumane
Sies Newsroom Africa journalism. Sies
The company which holds the mining license at this mine should be held responsible for any deaths.
That mine is still their responsibility
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The strategy of the state and the police is simply wrong, the state should organise relevant people with the necessary skills to go underground and have those people rescued.
Using the same tactics that the state of Israel is using in Gaza is exceedingly inhumane and places the democratic state at the same par with the state of Israeli.
Zama Zama must be sent down to rescue another ZamaZama
Those zamazamas are heavily armed down there
They won't left their guns and gold down there
They have TV and also a bar. A beer cost R500.🎉