Most classic pulp SF writers were not specifically educated in scientific fields. No more than HS "physical science" and a intro chemistry or biology class. They were fantasy writers (and many were soft core detective magazine porn writers too). The asteroid buzzing past Earth and scooping up people was from as Jules Verne story that started with pair of men about to duel.
@@STho205 "Most classic pulp SF writers were not specifically educated in scientific fields." True. James Blish relates that an (unnamed) SF writer once told him: "I got all the science I needed out of a bottle of Scotch."
That's my dad playing Pierson, I watch it every year... reminds me to stay humble. Btw, the screenplay for this episode was written by Serling based on an idea by Madelon Champion, a studio outsider that he paid $500 for the idea as it came up in social conversation between the two. Serling & Michael Wilson went on to co-write the original 'Planet' film based on French author, Pierre Boulle's book, 'La Planète des singes'. Many more cool facts about this episode on Wikipedia. 💫
Ted Otis, My step father of 30 years was also in this episode of the Twilight Zone. He played Officer Corey. The last one to live that discovers he's actually on earth near Reno. What ever became of your father? My step father pasted away 2 years ago at 94 years old. You can Google him, his name was Dewey Martin. A great and kind man as I'm sure your father was too.
John, wow, that's amazing, 94! God bless your step-dad. Yes, sure I know him since I'm always looking him up! My dad's doing well, living in New York. Great to meet you.
@@TedOtis Pierre Boulle was also credited with the screenplay to Bridge on the River Kwai although he was just a cover for two blacklisted writers. The key issue with "Apes" was whether Serling was merely adapting Boulle's novel or reusing the ending of the twilight zone episode.
@@Vlad65WFPReviews Never knew that about ‘River Kwai’, still haven’t seen it! (shameful, I know) Interesting question about the ‘Apes’ conclusion. I wonder if reading Boulle’s original book might shed some light?
@@TedOtis Hi. As others have noted there is a strange overlap between the novel and the ending of the movie. In the novel, some humans do escape and get back to space and return to earth - only to discover it is now run by apes. Serling's ending, with the iconic melted Statue of Liberty is tighter and, given the fears of the Cold War, probably more effective (and cheaper as the novel ends with the humans encountering apes in Paris). See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(novel) By the way, you must see Bridge on the River Kwai - it is one of the most intelligent movies about the stress of war and captivity on men - and won a bushel full of Oscars.
Arthur P. Jacobs, producer of the 1968 movie, commented how in the 1st days of filming the Ape City scenes, the extras who were in full ape makeup were told to break for lunch. Surprisingly those in orangutan garb went with other orangutans. Gorillas with gorillas, chimpanzees with chimpanzees etc. They were not instructed to do so, they just did. Also at the premiere of the film, at the movies' ending and its climax followed by a black screen and credits rolling with the sound of ocean waves on the shore, the audience was in stunned silence...then broke out into great applause.
@@ispeakmytruth1549 Yes, "The Cage" was the original pilot episode, which never aired as a one episode show. "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was the first aired episode, I believe. "The Managerie" was made out of the original "The Cage" footage with Spock's mutiny trial rounding it out as a "flashback" to tie it together. I find it fascinating that Majel Barrett's role as executive officer was considered too radical at the time, and was one of the reasons "the Cage" was rejected by the studio heads. Me mother used to refer to those persons as "male chauvinists." She retired as a Lieutenant Colonel.
How could Rod Serling, “rip off,” his own work? He wrote the scripts for both Planet Of The Apes and The Twilight Zone. He recycled his own material, because it was THAT GOOD. Dummy.
It's just called a variation on a theme, one designed for a short film, one for a long. It's all his work though, he'd probably say he was inspired by someone else's work ~shrug
In the novel it was a different planet, and the protagonist had to learn the ape language. The fact that he could learn and speak it caused conflict in ape society. It was a bit more like Planet of the Apes 3 in reverse. Serling did a marvelous turn by making it Earth's post atomic future and the big reveal. There had been years of Kirk and the Robinsons travelling to parallel worlds on TV (drawn from Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon stories), that the audience was kept wondering till the very last scene. Yes he did borrow that reveal from this episode, but on a much grander movie theater scale.
These guys must have flunked out of astronaut school. An asteroid with one-gee of gravity? And a breathable oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere? And colliding tectonic plates that raised mountains? And a tolerable temperature? "Well, fellas, I guess we're on some strange alien asteroid!" NASA probably shot these goofballs into space just to get rid of them.
Well done. I love the Serling narrative over the Planets scene. You can drop the South Park stuff, only a distraction from the message. Serling ripping off Serling.
I do find amusing is the accusation of plagiarism that some people make about Star Trek Animated Series episode "The Slaver Weapon" (nearly identical to the story "The Soft Weapon" by Larry Niven -- most notable changes are the names of the characters). Even more amusing is that some still stand firm on the accusation even after they find out that the episode was written by Larry Niven.
Pierre Boulle's novel was in written in 1963, three years after the Twilight Zone episode. In it, at the end, the landmark that gives it away is the Eiffel Tower.
Correction ! It was published in 1963. Could have been written years earlier, indeed, over several years ? Even if it was written and published in 1963. I don't believe that a French novelist, living in France, was influenced by a script from a 1960 US TV series. And even if he had seen it, I would say it inspired him to write his tale, rather than a deliberate rip off, or are we just going to call every story, fairy tale, book or movie with similar themes as cited previous sources, "Rip Offs" now ???
The busted hibernation chamber that kills its occupant idea was used in the episode where a gang steals gold and hibernates in a cave. (That show borrowed from the classic silent movie “Greed” where the bad guy dies in the desert and his gold does him no good. ) Look for a cameo by the car that Robbie the Robot drove in “Forbidden Planet” as a couple stumbles across the dying leader of the gang who offers the man water in exchange for gold, which he then explains to his female companion has been worthless since scientists found out how to make it.
@@jamesfowler5100 In the original novel by Boulle the apes had a futuristic planet. The studio had the screenplay written with a primitive planet so the sets would be cheaper.
Not really a ripoff; just another story involving landing on the earth in the same time or in a different time, or in a different universe time dimension. In fact, Star Trek did this in a couple of episodes, and in Buck Rogers. I am sure it has occurred in a number of other movies too. I am certain if anyone here is more savvy, they could come up with at least 10 movies that predate the Twilight zone episode relating to travel from earth and returning to a 'foreign' (alternative reality) world back on earth. Twilight Zone was good at doing this; the 19th Century Pioneer travelers, where the father seeks out to find medicine for an ailing child, and walk into the 20th Century, a lone road leading to a dinner. Or of a man tired of his routine life ventures onto a train and ends up in a long ago quaint little town. These are all just spinoffs of the same storyline; either traveling through time, or traveling to a foreign land only to find it is really home; something that the Twilight Zone explored in many stories. To be honest, the Twilight Zone episode here is really not about time or space, but of mistaken identity. However, the Planet of the Apes is about time travel and returning back to earth at a far later time than the present; totally different stories altogether... not really a ripoff at all. How about Gulliver's Travels; a man who lands on an island or continent inhabited by Lilliputians and in another of his Travels he lands on another island or continent of Giants; we know that this is not real from our real lives and experiences, but in Gulliver's world, it too was foreign and Alien.
That Twilight Zone episode was a great story that didn't need a big budget. Just go out to the desert with some simple props and some ok actors and film it all in a day. I never would have seen this if I wasn't home sick with COVID.
BBC Radio 4Extra recently broadcast an interesting programme about Rod Serling along with I think two stories from the Twilight Zone. Well worth listening to.
La Planète des singes, known in English as Planet of the Apes in the US and Monkey Planet in the UK, is a 1963 science fiction novel by French author Pierre Boulle. It was adapted into the 1968 film Planet of the Apes, launching the Planet of the Apes media franchise. Serling adapted a film script for it.
@@lorddalek Exactly. Serling took Boulle's "concept novel" and improved on it with his classic sense of irony. Screenwriting (and Serling was the *co-*screenwriter on "Apes") is a completely different skill than novel writing. And Serling may have been the greatest short film screenwriter in history.
@@Toxinomist Pierre Boulle's book ends roughly the same way Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes does. Serling came up with the "it was earth all along" ending.
ii ii Read this thread or just read Wikipedia’s article on the POA film. There was no plagiarism.There was an ‘adaptation’ of a book. They give Oscars to screenwriters for this skill.
When I was a kid watching Planet of the Apes, even I knew it was impossible for the apes to know English on a planet in another solar system some 2000 years in the future... unless mankind colonized the planet before falling apart. Until the statue of liberty showed up, that's what I thought happened. I wonder if he had checked the talking doll if he would have seen "Made in Japan" stamped on it?
L. Frank Baum of The Wizard of Oz fame had all of them beat by 60 years or so with his 1896 book "The Surprising Adventures of the Magical Monarch of Mo and His People", and chapter 12: "The Land of Civilized Monkeys". A prince uses a kite to fly to a far off land that is inhabited by apes and monkeys. They do not speak English, and the prince cannot understand Monkey. The prince is captured and put into a zoo to be studied. He manages to escape, reaches his kite that had landed in high trees, and makes his escape back to his own land. www.hungrytigerpress.com/tigertales/tigertale005.shtml
That’s. Very interesting question, I never thought about it, unless somewhere in the story line the moon got destroyed, like in the remake of the time machine, where in a attempt to colonize the moon they blow it in half, I don’t know, but great observation
Many of the TZ stories had really bad logic issues. IMO, the very worst episode is "Probe 7: Over and Out." What? The producers didn't have a five-year-old child available as science advisor? Bet Richard Basehart spent the remainder of his career buying up copies and burning them. (Ok, that's snark.) Overall, IMO, the TZ episodes do not fare as well as The Outer Limits episodes (TOS). Yeah, there are some stinkers there, too ("Production and Decay of Strange Particles" and "Zzzzzzzzzz," e.g.). But overall, the classics of TOL really do work better than even the best of TZ classics.
Um... same guy wrote both stories, Rod Serling. So nothing surprising here. Writers and filmmakers often steal ideas from themselves or maybe develop an old useful idea into something more interesting. But this is still cool to see side by side like this. Thanks!
In the Planet of the Apes 1968 movie, Taylor and his fellow crewmen had mentioned that there was no moon. Perhaps they were in an alternate universe, similar to The Star Trek episode Mirror Mirror. Since there was no moon they could have been in the same universe as the television series Space: 1999.
Thank you baby Jesus for not bludgeoning the viewer with hard science. Good sci-fi was never about that. Story and humanity come first. Watch science documentaries on your own time.
The "we never left" aspect was just the Hitchcockian/Twilight Zone twist at the end of "Planet of the Apes". The real conflict was the reversal of roles between creationism and evolutionary theory, which was a very hot subject in the late 60's.
America became an unattractive Creationist country in the 90s, when it was decided to give as equal a voice to God? in your schools as you did to Science...Science gave us everything we have today...without Science we are primitives...Science reveals the rules and effects of interaction...Suggesting both had equal or valid reasons for adopting as part of National.education, it was decided to allow the teaching of Faith as a viable.equal to Science. ..to publicly and proudly educate a generation with distorted perspectives (Adam amd.Eve) making them stupidly believe in Spirits who offer no Solace to anyone...simply Self delusion... White......European...Spanish......all giving different emphasis or outcomes.. Also...Religion doesn't belong in Politics. Especially when the ruling individuals are so corrupt and unattractive on both sides...Rump had a psychic in his environmmet every day....Witchcraft coupled with Ignorance....sounds like the 1600s...Good luck...The end of the World is coming..in 2130ish. ..Asteroid Bennu....look it up and start trying to find a way to stop it.
The initial concept of astronauts on an unfamiliar planet is the same as is the "punchline". However, both stories play out completely different. In the TZ episode, it boils down to a simple case of desperation and friends vs. friends while in POTA, the satire and commentary is a study of human prejudices, attitudes and its ultimate futility. These stories have similar elements in both the beginning and endings but that is all.
It’s not fair to say Planet of the Apes ripped off The Twilight Zone. Rod Serling wrote both The Twilight Zone and Planet of the apes, he borrowed from himself. The film is loosely based on a book by Pierre Boulle, but the book is very different. The book is told from the point of view of a married couple thousands of years in the future, who find a diary written by a scientist detailing his time on the planet of the apes.
@@HerrEllsworth he wrote this fucking episode of the twilight zone then wrote the planet of the apes ending based on THIS FUCKING EPISODE. YOU ARENT RIGHT
French author Pierre Boulle published Les Planete des Singes( Planet of the Apes) in 1963. I have a feeling he wasn’t inspired by this but no doubt Hollywood’s massive rewrite of his story was.
The ending completely surprised me when I first saw this episode. They were on earth the whole time. Then I realized that blind panic and selfishness thinking only of your own skin is what made this man kill two of his own comrades. FOR NOTHING!!! The cruel joke was that he was on earth all the while and he only found this out AFTER the awful deed had been done. He might have been sorry at that moment, but those two men were DEAD!!
Seen ‘em both many times, but every year brings a generation that hasn’t. Not a fan of spoilers~ worse case is when the iconic final scene is on the back of the box
So Serling wrote 2 shows in the 60's about space missions that never went anywhere? What else was happening back then that might plant that seed in his mind? Who might benefit from spreading that idea?
@@tgreening Anyone who could believe that lacks the intellect to even begin to understand the subject. Like the man apes in 2001 ASO. Have you seen that film, with it's fake moon sequence?
It's NOT a ripoff! It's a continuation. It's also by the same writer. He didn't rip it off anyone if it's his own writing, so it's NOT s ripoff if it's his writing. Now if Rod Sterling didn't write those episodes of Twilight Zone, then it'd be a ripoff.
Nope. Apes spacemen went to earth in the future. 60’s astronauts never left the solar system and landed in the NV desert in same year. Quite the difference.
Both stories are based on a book by Pierre Boulle published in 1963. I'm sure that is somewhere in the credits of each film: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(novel)
@@alexandermacdougall7873 HG Wells, Asimov, Clarke. I'd say there was good scifi writing. Most scifi TV /movies was low budget and /horror. What are your thoughts to scifi prior to 1959?
@@dianewallace6064 There's a 50's tv series called 'Tales of Tomorrow' it's very similar on it's structure, and it came before Twilight Zone. Sterling was a master, but there were already doing good sci fi before him.
People are calling each other idiots for not noticing that the two were both written by Serling. They say it over and over again -- like idiots -- not noticing that everybody else is saying the same thing.
Rod Serling co-wrote the screenplay for the original Planet of the Apes, so it's misleading to say Planet of the Apes ripped off the Twilight Zone episode. It was his story, he could do what he wanted with it.
Interesting - looks like Serling took Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel and put his own twist ending on the end of it. The novel also has a twist ending, but much different than the movie.
@@karllegrand Sorry - misunderstanding - I meant it looks like Serling took the ending off this episode of Twilight Zone and adapted Planet of the Apes to have a similar ending in the movie script he wrote.
Not only is this asteroid in the same orbit as earth it ALSO has a gravitational pull surprisingly similar to that of earth! sometimes i want to laugh it's like people back then thought you could have a small asteroid with the same gravity as an entire planet. Though... If there WERE elements which had a greater gravitational pull than usual, might they all be in black holes? Black holes known as THE TWILIGHT ZONE
Not a rip-off at all. "Apes" had a major time travel element. Twilight Zone didn't. They remained in their own time and didn't encounter any beings on their strange asteroid. They weren't very bright...
I doubt that the French Pierre Boulle was influenced by THE TWILIGHT ZONE that was only a reason for the American Producers to become more willing to take on this project. Also the French are an extremly proud selfcentred culture. There is even nowdays a law that limits the intake of foreign language productions and expessions into the French culture.
Other than the fact they both returned to earth there are no similarities. In the TWZ version they land on present day earth where everything is okay after thinking they were stranded on an asteroid....that's hilarious these days. In PoA they return to earth thousands of years later after man had destroyed himself. Not remotely similar.
@@cliffords2315 Pretty sure Trump was the most China friendly president in a long time, numbers don't lie, the Trump years were the years that China most profited.
The Planet of the Apes movie was based on a book of the same name published in 1963 so perhaps the author got the idea from The Twilight Zone, or it was one of those harsh coincidences.
Not only was Rod Serling involved with both features, I believe he was sued over the twilight zone script, because someone had summited the idea to him and was not credited or paid for it until he was sued. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Shot_an_Arrow_into_the_Air
wow an asteroid with the same orbit as earth the same atmosphere as earth and the same gravity as earth? hmmmmm?
... the script writer was definitely in the twilight zone!
And Dewey Martin sure was thursty’!
That would make it class "M"
Most classic pulp SF writers were not specifically educated in scientific fields. No more than HS "physical science" and a intro chemistry or biology class.
They were fantasy writers (and many were soft core detective magazine porn writers too). The asteroid buzzing past Earth and scooping up people was from as Jules Verne story that started with pair of men about to duel.
@@STho205 "Most classic pulp SF writers were not specifically educated in scientific fields."
True. James Blish relates that an (unnamed) SF writer once told him: "I got all the science I needed out of a bottle of Scotch."
That's my dad playing Pierson, I watch it every year... reminds me to stay humble.
Btw, the screenplay for this episode was written by Serling based on an idea by Madelon Champion, a studio outsider that he paid $500 for the idea as it came up in social conversation between the two.
Serling & Michael Wilson went on to co-write the original 'Planet' film based on French author, Pierre Boulle's book, 'La Planète des singes'. Many more cool facts about this episode on Wikipedia. 💫
Ted Otis, My step father of 30 years was also in this episode of the Twilight Zone. He played Officer Corey. The last one to live that discovers he's actually on earth near Reno. What ever became of your father? My step father pasted away 2 years ago at 94 years old. You can Google him, his name was Dewey Martin. A great and kind man as I'm sure your father was too.
John, wow, that's amazing, 94! God bless your step-dad. Yes, sure I know him since I'm always looking him up!
My dad's doing well, living in New York. Great to meet you.
@@TedOtis Pierre Boulle was also credited with the screenplay to Bridge on the River Kwai although he was just a cover for two blacklisted writers. The key issue with "Apes" was whether Serling was merely adapting Boulle's novel or reusing the ending of the twilight zone episode.
@@Vlad65WFPReviews Never knew that about ‘River Kwai’, still haven’t seen it! (shameful, I know) Interesting question about the ‘Apes’ conclusion. I wonder if reading Boulle’s original book might shed some light?
@@TedOtis Hi. As others have noted there is a strange overlap between the novel and the ending of the movie. In the novel, some humans do escape and get back to space and return to earth - only to discover it is now run by apes. Serling's ending, with the iconic melted Statue of Liberty is tighter and, given the fears of the Cold War, probably more effective (and cheaper as the novel ends with the humans encountering apes in Paris). See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(novel)
By the way, you must see Bridge on the River Kwai - it is one of the most intelligent movies about the stress of war and captivity on men - and won a bushel full of Oscars.
Rod Serling was a genius
Arthur P. Jacobs, producer of the 1968 movie, commented how in the 1st days of filming the Ape City scenes, the extras who were in full ape makeup were told to break for lunch. Surprisingly those in orangutan garb went with other orangutans. Gorillas with gorillas, chimpanzees with chimpanzees etc. They were not instructed to do so, they just did. Also at the premiere of the film, at the movies' ending and its climax followed by a black screen and credits rolling with the sound of ocean waves on the shore, the audience was in stunned silence...then broke out into great applause.
Don't forget the Episode : People Are The Same All Over.. Astronaut Roddy Mcdowall finds out he's been placed in a zoo.
Yeah, like in "Brave New World".
Roddenberry used a variation of that storyline in "The Menagerie" Trek's original two part pilot.
@@johnnygnoneeded "The Menagerie" was a two-part episode based on the one-part pilot "The Cage".
@@ispeakmytruth1549 Yes, "The Cage" was the original pilot episode, which never aired as a one episode show. "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was the first aired episode, I believe. "The Managerie" was made out of the original "The Cage" footage with Spock's mutiny trial rounding it out as a "flashback" to tie it together. I find it fascinating that Majel Barrett's role as executive officer was considered too radical at the time, and was one of the reasons "the Cage" was rejected by the studio heads. Me mother used to refer to those persons as "male chauvinists." She retired as a Lieutenant Colonel.
@@johnnygnoneeded WOW for your Mom!
How could Rod Serling, “rip off,” his own work? He wrote the scripts for both Planet Of The Apes and The Twilight Zone. He recycled his own material, because it was THAT GOOD. Dummy.
It's only vaguely similar, and your point is perfect.
It's just called a variation on a theme, one designed for a short film, one for a long.
It's all his work though, he'd probably say he was inspired by someone else's work ~shrug
@@NOMAD-qp3dd yeah Pierre Boulle
@@shawnaustin6910 yep.
Planet Of The Apes is a French book La Planète des singes (1963)
Everything is pretty much an adaptation of a Twilight Zone episode. This show was ahead of its time. Thanks
In the novel it was a different planet, and the protagonist had to learn the ape language. The fact that he could learn and speak it caused conflict in ape society. It was a bit more like Planet of the Apes 3 in reverse.
Serling did a marvelous turn by making it Earth's post atomic future and the big reveal. There had been years of Kirk and the Robinsons travelling to parallel worlds on TV (drawn from Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon stories), that the audience was kept wondering till the very last scene.
Yes he did borrow that reveal from this episode, but on a much grander movie theater scale.
These guys must have flunked out of astronaut school. An asteroid with one-gee of gravity? And a breathable oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere? And colliding tectonic plates that raised mountains? And a tolerable temperature? "Well, fellas, I guess we're on some strange alien asteroid!" NASA probably shot these goofballs into space just to get rid of them.
Brilliant haha.
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Apologies, my kid is on a Simpson kick. Just recently watched an episode with the quote.
If it looks like the Earth, smells like the Earth, orbits like the Earth and sounds like the Earth... it's EARTH !
It was before the first man step into the space. Anything was possible at that moment. 😅
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Wow, a comment that isn't either shitting on the video or spouting useless information. Thanks!
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Well done. I love the Serling narrative over the Planets scene. You can drop the South Park stuff, only a distraction from the message. Serling ripping off Serling.
Well since Rod wrote both endings and was given full credit I don't see why people say Planet of the Apes plagiarized I Shot an Arrow into the Air.
Yes
I do find amusing is the accusation of plagiarism that some people make about Star Trek Animated Series episode "The Slaver Weapon" (nearly identical to the story "The Soft Weapon" by Larry Niven -- most notable changes are the names of the characters). Even more amusing is that some still stand firm on the accusation even after they find out that the episode was written by Larry Niven.
I saw the TZ episode when it first aired. Thanks for the memories.
Pierre Boulle's novel was in written in 1963, three years after the Twilight Zone episode. In it, at the end, the landmark that gives it away is the Eiffel Tower.
Correction ! It was published in 1963. Could have been written years earlier, indeed, over several years ? Even if it was written and published in 1963. I don't believe that a French novelist, living in France, was influenced by a script from a 1960 US TV series. And even if he had seen it, I would say it inspired him to write his tale, rather than a deliberate rip off, or are we just going to call every story, fairy tale, book or movie with similar themes as cited previous sources, "Rip Offs" now ???
The busted hibernation chamber that kills its occupant idea was used in the episode where a gang steals gold and hibernates in a cave. (That show borrowed from the classic silent movie “Greed” where the bad guy dies in the desert and his gold does him no good. ) Look for a cameo by the car that Robbie the Robot drove in “Forbidden Planet” as a couple stumbles across the dying leader of the gang who offers the man water in exchange for gold, which he then explains to his female companion has been worthless since scientists found out how to make it.
Well Serling wrote planet of the apes screenplay so duh
I agree
You can't steal from yourself, can you.
I never knew that. I always known that the Planet of the Apes had a Twilight Zone vibe to it. Now I know.
@@jamesfowler5100 In the original novel by Boulle the apes had a futuristic planet. The studio had the screenplay written with a primitive planet so the sets would be cheaper.
I came here to make the same comment. But, since you already did... :-)
the book 'planet of the apes' is quite different anyway, well worth a read.
3:41 Music was used for Bounty Law from the movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Many variations of thos scenario. Being lost in our own backyard. Great stories both of them
Not really a ripoff; just another story involving landing on the earth in the same time or in a different time, or in a different universe time dimension. In fact, Star Trek did this in a couple of episodes, and in Buck Rogers. I am sure it has occurred in a number of other movies too. I am certain if anyone here is more savvy, they could come up with at least 10 movies that predate the Twilight zone episode relating to travel from earth and returning to a 'foreign' (alternative reality) world back on earth. Twilight Zone was good at doing this; the 19th Century Pioneer travelers, where the father seeks out to find medicine for an ailing child, and walk into the 20th Century, a lone road leading to a dinner. Or of a man tired of his routine life ventures onto a train and ends up in a long ago quaint little town. These are all just spinoffs of the same storyline; either traveling through time, or traveling to a foreign land only to find it is really home; something that the Twilight Zone explored in many stories. To be honest, the Twilight Zone episode here is really not about time or space, but of mistaken identity. However, the Planet of the Apes is about time travel and returning back to earth at a far later time than the present; totally different stories altogether... not really a ripoff at all. How about Gulliver's Travels; a man who lands on an island or continent inhabited by Lilliputians and in another of his Travels he lands on another island or continent of Giants; we know that this is not real from our real lives and experiences, but in Gulliver's world, it too was foreign and Alien.
Well said!
That Twilight Zone episode was a great story that didn't need a big budget. Just go out to the desert with some simple props and some ok actors and film it all in a day. I never would have seen this if I wasn't home sick with COVID.
when you travel the universe you have to make sure you have your rubber dingy
Most women have at least one of those.
Don't forget your towel.
@@duderama6750 and your WWII Sten gun
BBC Radio 4Extra recently broadcast an interesting programme about Rod Serling along with I think two stories from the Twilight Zone. Well worth listening to.
Whowever posted this video; did you ever watch the opening credits?
La Planète des singes, known in English as Planet of the Apes in the US and Monkey Planet in the UK, is a 1963 science fiction novel by French author Pierre Boulle. It was adapted into the 1968 film Planet of the Apes, launching the Planet of the Apes media franchise. Serling adapted a film script for it.
Twilight zone was a head of its time, and still stands the test of its time. Twilight Zone will still be around for thousands of years.
All truly great films and TV shows will be around a thousand years from now.
Are you nuts? WE may not even be around in another 100 years.
@@generalyellor2187 maybe not you cause your a pussy
It's hardly a rip-off if Rod Serling wrote the original script for POTA, ehy? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(1968_film)
''loosely based on the 1963 French novel La Planète des Singes by Pierre Boulle. " It is a rip off.
@@Toxinomist The original book has a completely different ending.
Try again.
@@lorddalek Exactly. Serling took Boulle's "concept novel" and improved on it with his classic sense of irony. Screenwriting (and Serling was the *co-*screenwriter on "Apes") is a completely different skill than novel writing. And Serling may have been the greatest short film screenwriter in history.
@@GhostRanger5060
Exactly. Well said .
@@Toxinomist Pierre Boulle's book ends roughly the same way Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes does. Serling came up with the "it was earth all along" ending.
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Mike Basil And it also makes an easy paycheck for the author by digging through already made scripts rather than start from scratch.
ii ii Read this thread or just read Wikipedia’s article on the POA film.
There was no plagiarism.There was an ‘adaptation’ of a book. They give Oscars to screenwriters for this skill.
There is so many Serling rip offs in Hollywood movies.
When I was a kid watching Planet of the Apes, even I knew it was impossible for the apes to know English on a planet in another solar system some 2000 years in the future... unless mankind colonized the planet before falling apart. Until the statue of liberty showed up, that's what I thought happened. I wonder if he had checked the talking doll if he would have seen "Made in Japan" stamped on it?
When we first saw it, decades ago, we knew they were back on earth ten minutes into the movie.
If they waited for night, they'd have seen that the asteroid would have a moon like earth as well.
@MTR Not if you read the Quran or Bible. Sounds like the moon only exists at night.
The moon yes, and constellations.
@@RammatRamzi this is why the Bible is flawed. Sure most of it is correct but there is mistakes and or tampered by evil.
L. Frank Baum of The Wizard of Oz fame had all of them beat by 60 years or so with his 1896 book "The Surprising Adventures of the Magical Monarch of Mo and His People", and chapter 12: "The Land of Civilized Monkeys". A prince uses a kite to fly to a far off land that is inhabited by apes and monkeys. They do not speak English, and the prince cannot understand Monkey. The prince is captured and put into a zoo to be studied. He manages to escape, reaches his kite that had landed in high trees, and makes his escape back to his own land.
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"The Planet of the Apes" movie was basically a feature length Twilight Zone episode.
Rod Serling wrote the original drafts of the planet of the apes tried to get the movie made for years
Very cool overlap at the end!
I always wondered what happened to The Moon in the movie. Wouldn't Taylor have known he was on Earth the first time he saw it?
That’s. Very interesting question, I never thought about it, unless somewhere in the story line the moon got destroyed, like in the remake of the time machine, where in a attempt to colonize the moon they blow it in half, I don’t know, but great observation
Many of the TZ stories had really bad logic issues. IMO, the very worst episode is "Probe 7: Over and Out." What? The producers didn't have a five-year-old child available as science advisor? Bet Richard Basehart spent the remainder of his career buying up copies and burning them. (Ok, that's snark.)
Overall, IMO, the TZ episodes do not fare as well as The Outer Limits episodes (TOS). Yeah, there are some stinkers there, too ("Production and Decay of Strange Particles" and "Zzzzzzzzzz," e.g.). But overall, the classics of TOL really do work better than even the best of TZ classics.
Shhhh! Don’t ruin it!
Good Point
Maybe the moon was not visible at this time.
I always said driving through Elko County Nevada was like driving on the surface of the Moon.
Um... same guy wrote both stories, Rod Serling. So nothing surprising here. Writers and filmmakers often steal ideas from themselves or maybe develop an old useful idea into something more interesting. But this is still cool to see side by side like this. Thanks!
In the Planet of the Apes 1968 movie, Taylor and his fellow crewmen had mentioned that there was no moon. Perhaps they were in an alternate universe, similar to The Star Trek episode Mirror Mirror. Since there was no moon they could have been in the same universe as the television series Space: 1999.
Thank you baby Jesus for not bludgeoning the viewer with hard science. Good sci-fi was never about that. Story and humanity come first. Watch science documentaries on your own time.
The "we never left" aspect was just the Hitchcockian/Twilight Zone twist at the end of "Planet of the Apes". The real conflict was the reversal of roles between creationism and evolutionary theory, which was a very hot subject in the late 60's.
America became an unattractive Creationist country in the 90s, when it was decided to give as equal a voice to God? in your schools as you did to Science...Science gave us everything we have today...without Science we are primitives...Science reveals the rules and effects of interaction...Suggesting both had equal or valid reasons for adopting as part of National.education, it was decided to allow the teaching of Faith as a viable.equal to Science. ..to publicly and proudly educate a generation with distorted perspectives (Adam amd.Eve) making them stupidly believe in Spirits who offer no Solace to anyone...simply Self delusion...
White......European...Spanish......all giving different emphasis or outcomes..
Also...Religion doesn't belong in Politics. Especially when the ruling individuals are so corrupt and unattractive on both sides...Rump had a psychic in his environmmet every day....Witchcraft coupled with Ignorance....sounds like the 1600s...Good luck...The end of the World is coming..in 2130ish.
..Asteroid Bennu....look it up and start trying to find a way to stop it.
Did it ever occur to either of those crews that the constellations are the same as on earth? As is the Moon?
Apparently not
It isn’t a ripoff- it is an Homage.
The initial concept of astronauts on an unfamiliar planet is the same as is the "punchline". However, both stories play out completely different. In the TZ episode, it boils down to a simple case of desperation and friends vs. friends while in POTA, the satire and commentary is a study of human prejudices, attitudes and its ultimate futility. These stories have similar elements in both the beginning and endings but that is all.
It’s not fair to say Planet of the Apes ripped off The Twilight Zone. Rod Serling wrote both The Twilight Zone and Planet of the apes, he borrowed from himself.
The film is loosely based on a book by Pierre Boulle, but the book is very different. The book is told from the point of view of a married couple thousands of years in the future, who find a diary written by a scientist detailing his time on the planet of the apes.
This is exactly what I said in the description...
Rod Serling wrote both of them. Its not a rip off at all he wrote the shit
Rod Serling did "borrow" the idea for the ending from something else but not Twilight Zone.
@@HerrEllsworth he wrote this fucking episode of the twilight zone then wrote the planet of the apes ending based on THIS FUCKING EPISODE. YOU ARENT RIGHT
The original movie was and still is better than the stupid knew ones. The dialogue is 100% better and especially the acting.
French author Pierre Boulle published Les Planete des Singes( Planet of the Apes) in 1963. I have a feeling he wasn’t inspired by this but no doubt Hollywood’s massive rewrite of his story was.
Rod Serling.
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The ending completely surprised me when I first saw this episode. They were on earth the whole time. Then I realized that blind panic and selfishness thinking only of your own skin is what made this man kill two of his own comrades. FOR NOTHING!!! The cruel joke was that he was on earth all the while and he only found this out AFTER the awful deed had been done. He might have been sorry at that moment, but those two men were DEAD!!
Seen ‘em both many times, but every year brings a generation that hasn’t. Not a fan of spoilers~ worse case is when the iconic final scene is on the back of the box
Rod Serling wrote the original screen plays for planet of the apes and is listed as co writer in credits of the movie
no shit sherlock
Arguably the best shock ending for any movie ever made. They sure don't make movies like this anymore..........
So Serling wrote 2 shows in the 60's about space missions that never went anywhere?
What else was happening back then that might plant that seed in his mind? Who might benefit from spreading that idea?
Please. You realize that in the 60’s it was easier to do it than to fake it, right? Or can you even consider the idea?
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Anyone who could believe that lacks the intellect to even begin to understand the subject. Like the man apes in 2001 ASO. Have you seen that film, with it's fake moon sequence?
@@duderama6750 Anyone that believes it was faked is plain and simple, dumber than a box of rocks.
Serling also ripped from TZ at the beginning when Stewart is found dead in her sleep chamber- the same plot device is used in The Rip Van Winkle Caper
Yup...Zone did it first. Serling was a genius.
I see your point, but no apes, nuclear destruction, or Statue of Liberty.
fair.
You don't see many ppl smoking onset before introducing tonight's episode, those were the days before PC changed our lives
Were they far into the future on that episode or at present time?
It doesn't matter who wrote the original plot because TTZ was Serling's show. Actually, POTA was a dark satire which many of the episodes of TTZ were.
It's NOT a ripoff! It's a continuation. It's also by the same writer. He didn't rip it off anyone if it's his own writing, so it's NOT s ripoff if it's his writing. Now if Rod Sterling didn't write those episodes of Twilight Zone, then it'd be a ripoff.
He's plagiarizing his own work, genius. It's a thing--and not a good thing.
Nope. Apes spacemen went to earth in the future. 60’s astronauts never left the solar system and landed in the NV desert in same year. Quite the difference.
Probably electrical problems to the ship. So just paranoia.
Both stories are based on a book by Pierre Boulle published in 1963. I'm sure that is somewhere in the credits of each film: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(novel)
Totally, Rod wrote both! Everything Scifi is from TZone.
Yes
What about all the SciFi that came before Twilight Zone?
@@alexandermacdougall7873 HG Wells, Asimov, Clarke. I'd say there was good scifi writing. Most scifi TV /movies was low budget and /horror. What are your thoughts to scifi prior to 1959?
@@dianewallace6064 there's good and bad prior to 1959. But to say everything SciFi is from Tzone is a bit of a stretch.
@@dianewallace6064 There's a 50's tv series called 'Tales of Tomorrow' it's very similar on it's structure, and it came before Twilight Zone. Sterling was a master, but there were already doing good sci fi before him.
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and the moon looks familiar.
Funny that 320 light years put them on lake Powell...
PLANET OF THE TWILIGHT
There is a Replica Statue of Liberty in Las Vegas Nevada.
People are calling each other idiots for not noticing that the two were both written by Serling. They say it over and over again -- like idiots -- not noticing that everybody else is saying the same thing.
I even wrote it myself in the description. I'm well aware he wrote both lol
Serling wrote both of them so he “ripped off” himself.
Rod Serling co-wrote the screenplay for the original Planet of the Apes, so it's misleading to say Planet of the Apes ripped off the Twilight Zone episode. It was his story, he could do what he wanted with it.
You do know that Rod wrote the planet of the apes.
It's hardly a novel concept for science fiction; it's not as if Twilight Zone did it first.
who do you think wrote Planet of the Apes?
Interesting - looks like Serling took Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel and put his own twist ending on the end of it. The novel also has a twist ending, but much different than the movie.
Three years BEFORE The Planet Of The Apes was written ?
@@karllegrand ? - the book was published in '63, the movie Serling wrote the script for was made in '68.
@@creaker41 This episode aired in 1960.
@@karllegrand Sorry - misunderstanding - I meant it looks like Serling took the ending off this episode of Twilight Zone and adapted Planet of the Apes to have a similar ending in the movie script he wrote.
@@creaker41 Ok, then I totally agree.
Not only is this asteroid in the same orbit as earth it ALSO has a gravitational pull surprisingly similar to that of earth!
sometimes i want to laugh it's like people back then thought you could have a small asteroid with the same gravity as an entire planet.
Though... If there WERE elements which had a greater gravitational pull than usual, might they all be in black holes?
Black holes known as THE TWILIGHT ZONE
How did the Apes take over?
Watch CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (original franchise) or The Trilogy of the most recent “Apes” films.
It's simple. Without government Man will be nothing more than a caveman, or even as low as an ape.
Anybody that depends on government for everything is the same as an ape.
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Where are the humans?
“... war, disease, plaque, COVID ...”
Not a rip-off at all. "Apes" had a major time travel element. Twilight Zone didn't. They remained in their own time and didn't encounter any beings on their strange asteroid. They weren't very bright...
Problem is Pierre wrote the story before the show and rod serling wrote the script for planet of the apes
Rod Serling should sue himself for plagiarism. I wonder how much he'd get from himself?
I doubt that the French Pierre Boulle was influenced by THE TWILIGHT ZONE that was only a reason for the American Producers to become more willing to take on this project.
Also the French are an extremly proud selfcentred culture. There is even nowdays a law that limits the intake of foreign language productions and expessions into the French culture.
1:45 SpaceBalls? Oh shit. There goes the planet
But where are the Apes in the twilight zone episode?
In the twilight zone
Great Moments in Irony.
Other than the fact they both returned to earth there are no similarities. In the TWZ version they land on present day earth where everything is okay after thinking they were stranded on an asteroid....that's hilarious these days. In PoA they return to earth thousands of years later after man had destroyed himself. Not remotely similar.
The thought of everything on Earth being okay, is indeed hilarious.
Spaceballs did the ending better.
The twilight episode had to do with human greed.
It was written about what would happen if Biden and Communist China took over America
@@cliffords2315 Pretty sure Trump was the most China friendly president in a long time, numbers don't lie, the Trump years were the years that China most profited.
The Planet of the Apes movie was based on a book of the same name published in 1963 so perhaps the author got the idea from The Twilight Zone, or it was one of those harsh coincidences.
You're joking, right?
Ripping off yourself isn't a thing. I've used elements of previous writings in later ones. Every writer does this.
I mean it’s written by the same person so it’s not the same as someone ripping it off.
Sten gun. Cool.
@MrPitjoey A Sten. Slightly ruins the futuristic effect.
Bonus fact: Michael Caine carried one as a British soldier in the Korean War.
And planet of the apes was based on book
this miight just happen, somehow, someday, who knows ??
All movies have a twilight connecttion.
How is this the same as planet of the apes?
Not only was Rod Serling involved with both features, I believe he was sued over the twilight zone script, because someone had summited the idea to him and was not credited or paid for it until he was sued. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Shot_an_Arrow_into_the_Air
Nah, he paid for the idea right off...he didn't need to rip off anyone...
Sci Fi in general has many stories with similarities. Some boarding on plagiarism.
Missing link to them evolutionists.
It's only vaguely similar.