FYI, A cubic foot of water weighs about 62.3 pounds when the water’s temperature is 70 degrees Fahrenheit. A cubic foot of sand weighs between 90-130 lbs, depending how dry it is. Wet sand is heavier.
Thanks for the review. I came to see how this stands up to punches as well as kicks and now I want to see you fight lol. I can def see some skill there. Best wishes
@@kj3813 Hey man, I did and I LOVE it! Bought mine for 386 euro's. The only complaint I would have is that you will see some declined areas after kicking it, but nothing really out of the ordinary.
I was thinking of getting a free standing bag since having a traditional heavy bag isn't an option. My cousin is always against the free standing bags because he feels that's for little kids or women but this one you are showing makes me want to buy it
We do circuits with ours. Speed punches for one minute then the garage stairs for one minute and then burpees for a minute. And repeat it for 30 minutes
Thank you for the video. Would you happen to know the difference between the regular Wavemaster XXL in the black, blue, and red color as opposed to the one called the Wavemaster XXL Ghost edition ? (which is white). Both models look identical, but the Ghost edition is almost $200 or so cheaper. Can't figure out why. Just because of the color ?
every reviews always go easy on bag,i want to se heavy kicks and punches see how tough the bag can hold up.i think i ll pass and go with the hanging one.
Thank you for this review! Very helpful. I am in the process of buying Wavemaster Freestanding Bag. Only thing is I don''t know if I should go with the XXL or the 2XL Pro. With the Pro, of course it's newer. But with the XXL, I can get it for $100 less with discount code. Plus, I love the Ghost all white version of it. If you have any thoughts or opinion between XXL and 2XL pro, please let me know. Also, I'll throw in the Torrent T2 pro in the mix as well and would like to know your thoughts. hehe. Thank you in advance!
@@BobRoss-wm3lc I got the Wavemaster XXL Ghost White. IF you can wait, hold off on buying until July as they had good sales last year so maybe they’ll have it again this year. I filled it up with small pebbles and it is very stable. I linked the video below where I got the idea from. Hope this helps. th-cam.com/video/UQjSXmTRAwQ/w-d-xo.html
Mike thank you for this really detailed review, you covered all bases and I’m gearing up to make the purchase. One question - I plan to put it on my concrete garage floor, would you recommend using a plastic gym mat underneath the base ?
Hi sir. First and furthermore let me just say Great 👍🏽 video. So my question is sir. If you decide to keep water inside of your base during the winter time. Will the base leak from freezing 🥶 over? Thanks 🙏🏽
It doesn’t get freezing in my garage so it’s never been and issue. If we do use it in freezing weather it’s only for like an hour or 2 so not long enough to be an issue. Put a thermometer where you plan to keep it. If it does drop to freezing use sand or empty the water.
I'm plannign on buying a standing bag instead of a hanging bag because i dont have a bug house. But i dont know if theyre hard enough for hard strikes...
Thanks for the video. So the height online shows 69" or about 5 foot 9. Is this just the bag height or total height? What if I want to practice striking a taller target. Like atleast 6 foot? Thanks
it looks like every time you kick it hard it almost falls is it because maybe you didn't fill enough water in the water tank or is it just not really stable?
Thanks for the feedback. When you move the bag, always roll to the right! If you roll to the left, you're very likely to unscrew the bag. to answer your question, it's fairly easy to remove the bag from the base. The bag its self is quite lite. When you tighten the bag back in the base, it gets tighter and then stops. Push past the stop and it breaks free again. If you don't tighten it really well, it can start to unscrew when working on it. I'd suggest getting a second person to help tighten really well to keep it from unscrewing. Hope that answers your questions.
I don't. I often wondered if you can really have the Body Action System without a heavy bag. If you get the Body Action System, let me know! I have been happy with the Wavemaster but still would like a BAS...
trying to decide for my 19 yo who does MMA and has done Karate since he was a kid whether the Wavemaster XXL or the Versys VS.1 is the way to go. Can you give a Wavemaster XXL vs Versys VS.1 review? Pros and Cons of each...thanks
I haven't used the Century VS 1 but I think the main difference is XXL is made for Stand up and the Century could be used from some ground and pound exercises. You can supplement various things like Kick Shields for ground and pound but you can't really supplement a stand-up bag. Take this with a grain of salf but I dont think the century would be good for stand up. Especially if you're working on speed due to it being knocked around. Hope this helps at least think about something a little more before making a decision. I don't know that you could make a wrong decision. In a perfect world, you'd probably get both. the question might be, which one do you want to start with.
Had the vs1 and I didn’t like how “bouncy” it was. Couldn’t line up fast combinations because the bag would move away at the first strike. Same with kicks, couldn’t take even minimal amount of power without being flung side to side. Wouldn’t recommend vs1 for a serious fighter (mma).
I'd almost think for your situation the Century Fight Simulator Bag might be a better product for you. I'd think it'd be less likely to send vibrations through the floor but this is just a guess. Good luck to ya!
What kind of bag and how hard do you kick?? lol. I have this filled with 250lbs of sand and roll it around daily. I can side kick and know it over. I’m surprised it hasn’t broke yet but it’s taken some abuse.
You can but not sure how long it’ll last outside. Use sand, not water as it might freeze depending on where you live. Also, I’d recommend having in a covered place if possible.
@@roelhoremans5887 yes. Changed ours to sand and it doesn’t slide as much. It is harder to move because the sand doesn’t allow the bag to roll as easily as water did when tipped sideways.
I don't know. Looks like the T2 might have a narrow base and bring a little of the weight up higher. This seems like it'd bring the center of gravity up and make the bag more likely to tip over. The base is also slightly lighter when filled. 250lbs compared to the XXL of 270. IN actuality though, it could perform quite well. Not sure why century would have two bags that would compete with each other so I wonder if they say which each is best for.
@@TravelingThruLife Honestly bro, I was all in for the wave master., torrent.. Me personally I came to the conclusion that if I was getting a freestanding, I was gonna fill it with sand and be done with it. I ended it up getting a hanging bag. but I have a BOB and realized something, if you get the wave master, fill it with water, and get at least 4 60pound sand bags and line them up on the back of it, you get cool recoil and it won't move as much. You'll still adjust it, but it just feels so right. CHeers.
They have these at the Dojo I go to, and yours looks a lot looser, could it be that you assembled the middle pole incorrectly? The one we use at the dojo dont wobble like that and we do flying kicks and all
Well, I don't think so. The bag consists of 3 parts. The base, a donut below the base and the bag with a threaded bottom. You put the donut under the base, and drop the threaded part on the bag, through the donut. What happens, is you have to hold the base by standing on it and spin the bag. It gets tighter and tighter until it slips. It's like it's slipping past a lock that keeps it from unscrewing. Once it goes past that locking point, it sort of gets loose again. I can try to see if i can get another turn out of it but I doubt it. It has gotten a little loser over time but it doesn't bother me. I mean, a hanging bag moves as much as this so... I'll post back and let you know.
@@mikethames3072 Im about to order one, I think its the best self standing bag for the money. I plan on filling it with sand. Do you recommend it then?
Binary Ninja's POV yes. I do recommend it. I think it’s about the best for the money that I’ve seen so I agree with you. Sand seems to make it more stable.
Crap bag ! Overrated ! mine broke after 3 years of use !!! When i kick or punch mine i can feel the pole in the middle. Fairtex HB14 best free standing bag !!! Fairtex will last forever No water or sand needed.
Thanks for the info, you've most definitely saved me a lot of money. Also I don't know who needs this, but I'd like to bless anyone since you've blessed me, Jesus christ loves you and gave his life on the cross so we could live and have a relationship with god. All we have to do is recognize our sins and ask for forgiveness and believe in jesus christ his son.
These reviews are trash. PUNCH AND KICK the bag. Why are all you guys talking instead of DEMONSTRATING how the bag takes kicks???? This is mad frustrating
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This is a chill unassuming guy you will instantly regret messing with.
Ha. Thanks.
100% dad vibes in this video and I love it lol
Pretty much the only proper, legitimate review of this bag. Others are completely half-assed. Well done.
This has beenn one of my best purchases ever . I had for a least 4 years . I dont use it often i am not a pro but i am very satisfied
Best review out there for this bag. Thanks!
I like how you included the inherited coat rack functionality. I also used this for the different treadmills I've purchased over the years.
Best review on TH-cam for this bag! Legit. Thank you! I'll be ordering one soon.
I just got a WaveMaster XXL used and filled the base with sand. Awesome Bag!
Just got mine yesterday. Can’t wait to start punching and kicking it!
I was undecided,but... I’m buying now , thanks for the review man👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the review, Mike. Mine arrives in 3 days. I decided not to get a hanging bag because of how they rock the house.
Thanks. Hanging is not an option in my house. Always skeptical of these bags but hearing a lot of good things about this brand
FYI, A cubic foot of water weighs about 62.3 pounds when the water’s temperature is 70 degrees Fahrenheit. A cubic foot of sand weighs between 90-130 lbs, depending how dry it is. Wet sand is heavier.
Thanks for the review. I came to see how this stands up to punches as well as kicks and now I want to see you fight lol. I can def see some skill there. Best wishes
Mate - thank you for this review. Fantastic!! I appreciate the time you spent making this. Has helped me make my purchasing decision. Thanks again.
Thank you for the feedback!
Good video, I just got one from century martial art and I really like it. I can’t leave without this bag. Thanks for the video
Hey which one did you get? And is it still holding up well?
You just sold a wavemaster. Thank you for making it an easy decision.
Thanks A LOT for this review man, I am now certainly buying this one!
Did you end up getting the century bag . How is it if you did , I am thinking of getting one
@@kj3813 Hey man, I did and I LOVE it! Bought mine for 386 euro's. The only complaint I would have is that you will see some declined areas after kicking it, but nothing really out of the ordinary.
Great review -- made me even more confident in my purchase! Thank you!
Seems like the WaveMaster has more wiggle room with the base flat on the ground compared to the Torrent T2 model which appears to be less stable.
I was thinking of getting a free standing bag since having a traditional heavy bag isn't an option. My cousin is always against the free standing bags because he feels that's for little kids or women but this one you are showing makes me want to buy it
Thanks for this vid bro. I will be getting this exact bag for mt in home garage gym. I need something for stress at times lol.
thank you for the detailed review. Well thought out & comprehensive. Nice technique, btw.
It doesn’t seem like it falls very easily, unlike the Versys VS1. Thanks for the review.
yes, that is a pro of the XXL but it can't do all that the VS1 can. There are not perfect solutions!
We do circuits with ours. Speed punches for one minute then the garage stairs for one minute and then burpees for a minute. And repeat it for 30 minutes
I like it. Thanks for sharing!
@@mikethames3072 you're welcome. It's a nice cardio workout. But it wasn't burpees for a minute it's 10 burpees
I did not expect him to have that power and speed wtf 😳
Thank you for the video. Would you happen to know the difference between the regular Wavemaster XXL in the black, blue, and red color as opposed to the one called the Wavemaster XXL Ghost edition ? (which is white). Both models look identical, but the Ghost edition is almost $200 or so cheaper. Can't figure out why. Just because of the color ?
I have a bully bob but the back of it is ripping and I think I will buy this soon
Is the xxl really worth it over the original wavemaster? Beginner here.
Thanks
Dude spoke the the bag for 8 minutes straight. Never once punched it. My man needs to get out more.
every reviews always go easy on bag,i want to se heavy kicks and punches see how tough the bag can hold up.i think i ll pass and go with the hanging one.
Thank you for this review! Very helpful. I am in the process of buying Wavemaster Freestanding Bag. Only thing is I don''t know if I should go with the XXL or the 2XL Pro. With the Pro, of course it's newer. But with the XXL, I can get it for $100 less with discount code. Plus, I love the Ghost all white version of it.
If you have any thoughts or opinion between XXL and 2XL pro, please let me know. Also, I'll throw in the Torrent T2 pro in the mix as well and would like to know your thoughts. hehe. Thank you in advance!
Which one did you get eventually ?
Hey which one did you get? Answer please.
@@BobRoss-wm3lc I got the Wavemaster XXL Ghost White.
IF you can wait, hold off on buying until July as they had good sales last year so maybe they’ll have it again this year.
I filled it up with small pebbles and it is very stable. I linked the video below where I got the idea from.
Hope this helps.
th-cam.com/video/UQjSXmTRAwQ/w-d-xo.html
@@itshugzz-9502 didn’t get notified on your comment but I replied below.
@@carlom.2194 it helps a lot thank you very much I appreciate it
Mike thank you for this really detailed review, you covered all bases and I’m gearing up to make the purchase. One question - I plan to put it on my concrete garage floor, would you recommend using a plastic gym mat underneath the base ?
Yes. I would put something under it as it’ll help keep it from sliding. Nothing too fancy is required
My bags come unlocked as we are doing Kickboxing. Have you found that to be a problem?
Yes! Until we tightened as much as we could. Use two people.
Great and honest review 👍
Hi sir. First and furthermore let me just say Great 👍🏽 video. So my question is sir. If you decide to keep water inside of your base during the winter time. Will the base leak from freezing 🥶 over? Thanks 🙏🏽
It doesn’t get freezing in my garage so it’s never been and issue. If we do use it in freezing weather it’s only for like an hour or 2 so not long enough to be an issue. Put a thermometer where you plan to keep it. If it does drop to freezing use sand or empty the water.
I absolutely love these bags
i love my wavemaster ALOT
Thanks for the review.
I'm plannign on buying a standing bag instead of a hanging bag because i dont have a bug house. But i dont know if theyre hard enough for hard strikes...
Thank you for your review! I just picked one up!
Awesome! Hope you like it as much as we do.
Very good review.
Thanks for the video. So the height online shows 69" or about 5 foot 9. Is this just the bag height or total height? What if I want to practice striking a taller target. Like atleast 6 foot? Thanks
it looks like every time you kick it hard it almost falls is it because maybe you didn't fill enough water in the water tank or is it just not really stable?
it is stable. I have it filled to the top with water. Sand is a little heavier. Remember that a hanging heavy bag will move as does a person.
Really helpful review!!! Decision made :-)
Good video. Very clear. Good explanation of the bag. How easy is it to remove the bag from the stand.
Thanks for the feedback.
When you move the bag, always roll to the right! If you roll to the left, you're very likely to unscrew the bag. to answer your question, it's fairly easy to remove the bag from the base. The bag its self is quite lite.
When you tighten the bag back in the base, it gets tighter and then stops. Push past the stop and it breaks free again. If you don't tighten it really well, it can start to unscrew when working on it. I'd suggest getting a second person to help tighten really well to keep it from unscrewing.
Hope that answers your questions.
Sand in the base and it doesn't move an inch. I'm 220 and boxed for years.
I was thinking to fill it with water for my apartment. But sand i think might be better because I wanna power punch it
@@ZZerkZZerk I didnt buy it because of that same reason. I live in a PH so it would be kinda douchey 🤷♂️
I got one.
Trust me there nice.
Have you tried filling the base with sand and see if it is better/worse compared to water filled base?
Yes, I have tried sand. I think it weighs it down a little more but the bag still moves. I mean, you don't really want to punch a brick wall. hehe
how to you keep the beam screwed on tight so it doesnt wobble as much?
Stand on the base and twist. Hard!
How many parts in the base ? I have bought a second hand one . And the base has come in two parts . Is that correct . Thanks .
Yes. The base and then like a nut to screw to the bag stem.
@@mikethames3072 thanks for the quick reply . Great review of the punch bag 👍🏻👍🏻. I look forward to getting mine set up and using it .
Do you have a Body Action System to compare it to? I'm torn between the BAS, Century Fight Simulator, and this Wavemaster XXL. Thanks.
I don't. I often wondered if you can really have the Body Action System without a heavy bag. If you get the Body Action System, let me know! I have been happy with the Wavemaster but still would like a BAS...
I want one!!!
Btw, your kick are excellent.
Thank you
trying to decide for my 19 yo who does MMA and has done Karate since he was a kid whether the Wavemaster XXL or the Versys VS.1 is the way to go. Can you give a Wavemaster XXL vs Versys VS.1 review? Pros and Cons of each...thanks
I haven't used the Century VS 1 but I think the main difference is XXL is made for Stand up and the Century could be used from some ground and pound exercises. You can supplement various things like Kick Shields for ground and pound but you can't really supplement a stand-up bag. Take this with a grain of salf but I dont think the century would be good for stand up. Especially if you're working on speed due to it being knocked around. Hope this helps at least think about something a little more before making a decision. I don't know that you could make a wrong decision. In a perfect world, you'd probably get both. the question might be, which one do you want to start with.
Had the vs1 and I didn’t like how “bouncy” it was. Couldn’t line up fast combinations because the bag would move away at the first strike. Same with kicks, couldn’t take even minimal amount of power without being flung side to side. Wouldn’t recommend vs1 for a serious fighter (mma).
I just ordered this and waiting for delivery, any idea of how much sand you need to fill this adequately?
I think it's about 4 bags but not 100% sure. Make sure you try to find dry sand. won't make that mistake again... lol
@@mikethames3072 good info, thanks
@@mikethames3072 any reason to use dry sand as opposed to the other?
Laurence Ross I just mean make sure it hasn’t been rained on as it’s hard to funnel in. 😬
Im 17 you think with big combinations i can punch iT down or its very hard?
Nice review but do they make a more sturdier product, I want to put it in my apartment? Thx
I'd almost think for your situation the Century Fight Simulator Bag might be a better product for you. I'd think it'd be less likely to send vibrations through the floor but this is just a guess. Good luck to ya!
Mike Thames - ikr I have a spider mount/100lb bag but can’t put in apt, of course. Thx though
After a while, I noticed mines gets loose even after locking it into place.
Do u think it can take strong kicks? Cuz I've already broken 2 bags by the "neck" just because of some kicks
What kind of bag and how hard do you kick?? lol. I have this filled with 250lbs of sand and roll it around daily. I can side kick and know it over. I’m surprised it hasn’t broke yet but it’s taken some abuse.
Can you recommend it. Thanks for your rewiev
Does this model detach like the newer xxl models?
The bag can unscrew from the base but its not something you'd want to do on a regular basis.
Sick round house!
5:12 alright how the fuck did you do that.
Could you put this uncovered outside?
You can but not sure how long it’ll last outside. Use sand, not water as it might freeze depending on where you live. Also, I’d recommend having in a covered place if possible.
Any difference between this and the wave master 2xl pro?
Not sure. I’ve never used it. Sorry
2xl pro heavier harder to move
I wonder if anyone can hit hard enough to knock that thing over using just bare hands
Do you have the base fully filled?
yes. I forget exactly what they say but it is like 1.5" from the top with water.
@@mikethames3072 Would filling it up with sand make a world of difference? Thx in advance.
@@roelhoremans5887 yes. Changed ours to sand and it doesn’t slide as much. It is harder to move because the sand doesn’t allow the bag to roll as easily as water did when tipped sideways.
Debating between this bag and the torrent t2. Do you know how they differ?
I don't know. Looks like the T2 might have a narrow base and bring a little of the weight up higher. This seems like it'd bring the center of gravity up and make the bag more likely to tip over. The base is also slightly lighter when filled. 250lbs compared to the XXL of 270. IN actuality though, it could perform quite well. Not sure why century would have two bags that would compete with each other so I wonder if they say which each is best for.
@@mikethames3072 thanks for your input.
@@TravelingThruLife Honestly bro, I was all in for the wave master., torrent.. Me personally I came to the conclusion that if I was getting a freestanding, I was gonna fill it with sand and be done with it. I ended it up getting a hanging bag. but I have a BOB and realized something, if you get the wave master, fill it with water, and get at least 4 60pound sand bags and line them up on the back of it, you get cool recoil and it won't move as much. You'll still adjust it, but it just feels so right. CHeers.
Dam is this foo GGG s cousin 😂 he got the hands
Nah he throws kicks so he's already better than GGG only pussies throw punches only
Great video.
Mine is getting a lot of wrinkles.
Is that normal?
Thank you. Mine too. Might be about time to replace but mine gets a lot of abuse. Not just me so... I might do a follow video.
If you ever give it away I'll take it😁
Can you also fill it with sand?
yes.
They have these at the Dojo I go to, and yours looks a lot looser, could it be that you assembled the middle pole incorrectly? The one we use at the dojo dont wobble like that and we do flying kicks and all
Well, I don't think so. The bag consists of 3 parts. The base, a donut below the base and the bag with a threaded bottom. You put the donut under the base, and drop the threaded part on the bag, through the donut. What happens, is you have to hold the base by standing on it and spin the bag. It gets tighter and tighter until it slips. It's like it's slipping past a lock that keeps it from unscrewing. Once it goes past that locking point, it sort of gets loose again. I can try to see if i can get another turn out of it but I doubt it. It has gotten a little loser over time but it doesn't bother me. I mean, a hanging bag moves as much as this so...
I'll post back and let you know.
@@mikethames3072 Im about to order one, I think its the best self standing bag for the money. I plan on filling it with sand. Do you recommend it then?
Binary Ninja's POV yes. I do recommend it. I think it’s about the best for the money that I’ve seen so I agree with you. Sand seems to make it more stable.
hey, how heavy/tall are you?
About 5/8 140lbs
Crap bag ! Overrated ! mine broke after 3 years of use !!! When i kick or punch mine i can feel the pole in the middle.
Fairtex HB14 best free standing bag !!! Fairtex will last forever
No water or sand needed.
wow you're so strong
Thanks for the info, you've most definitely saved me a lot of money. Also I don't know who needs this, but I'd like to bless anyone since you've blessed me, Jesus christ loves you and gave his life on the cross so we could live and have a relationship with god. All we have to do is recognize our sins and ask for forgiveness and believe in jesus christ his son.
Wish the damn bag wasn’t 300 bucks!
lol! right!
That's cheap, it $550 in the UK.
These reviews are trash. PUNCH AND KICK the bag. Why are all you guys talking instead of DEMONSTRATING how the bag takes kicks???? This is mad frustrating
He did. Did you watch the video?
Trash comment. Are you blind or something? He demonstrated within the first few minutes
U make ur woman hold the focus pads???? Wow. You are going to injure her shoulders! Train with dudes!
Ha. She’s been training a long time too so yea. Sometimes she holds pads.