James O'Barr did the Crow, a lot of it is based on the tragedy of what happened to his first wife. She was hit by a drunk driver, and a lot of love scenes he drew and wrote were somewhat his life. He was also getting drunk, doing drugs and getting in constant fights, living in a bad way. The Crow was originally a therapy piece for him, wasn't till later someone recognized his talent and needed another story to sell for their comic book company, and they printed the first issues and the rest is history. Putting yourself into a story can be done. The Crow was his rage for what had happened, and his heart break.
A good way to avoid a self-insert character is to split out your personal traits among multiple characters. It worked pretty damned well for Berke Breathed.
Louisa May Alcott is the queen of Self Insertion characters. Her entire series of books were based on her family and their experiences. But it wasn't a fantasy where she makes Jo March, who basically herself this perfect heroine that doesn't make mistakes. I see no problem with self insertion characters.
The guy trying desperately at the start to dogwhistle about woke was genuinely cringey and his arguementation doesn't hold up, especially when discussing classical literature and how self inserts were a form of advocacy for a movement away from degrading social standards. Axe him and you've got a good dialogue going on.
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James O'Barr did the Crow, a lot of it is based on the tragedy of what happened to his first wife. She was hit by a drunk driver, and a lot of love scenes he drew and wrote were somewhat his life. He was also getting drunk, doing drugs and getting in constant fights, living in a bad way. The Crow was originally a therapy piece for him, wasn't till later someone recognized his talent and needed another story to sell for their comic book company, and they printed the first issues and the rest is history. Putting yourself into a story can be done. The Crow was his rage for what had happened, and his heart break.
A good way to avoid a self-insert character is to split out your personal traits among multiple characters. It worked pretty damned well for Berke Breathed.
Ed, Edd n Eddy?
Great advise, besides a good author will likely do this on accident anyways
Dante Alighieri: *sweats profusely*
Luke Skywalker - George Lucas
I thought Han was supposed to be that cause he had the cool “car”
Gary Leger - R.A. Salvatore
I think the dichotomy y'all are looking for is the difference between a self-insert and a self-insert Mary Sue.
Which seems to be hard for them to understand. They seem like they'd conflate a Kim Kitsuragi with a Lisa Simpson type.
Louisa May Alcott is the queen of Self Insertion characters. Her entire series of books were based on her family and their experiences. But it wasn't a fantasy where she makes Jo March, who basically herself this perfect heroine that doesn't make mistakes.
I see no problem with self insertion characters.
The creator of invader zim did that with himself and it was good
The guy trying desperately at the start to dogwhistle about woke was genuinely cringey and his arguementation doesn't hold up, especially when discussing classical literature and how self inserts were a form of advocacy for a movement away from degrading social standards. Axe him and you've got a good dialogue going on.