That's like 33+ minutes of nonstop hero on hero combat, ignoring recalling to regen and travel time. More likely 100-200 stacks in a match if it's your first item.
@@jenjenhocho3188 especially how in pro scene, "useless" little fights rarely happens since there is no objective. In open match, we'd fight for literally no reason just for seeing an enemy lol.
Here's the calculation: 60 / 4 = 15 stacks per minute Normal games last about 10 to 15 minutes. But in reality, building the item will take a few minutes. Let's say you were able to build the item in the first 5 minutes. We can potentially get around 75 to 150 stacks on a normal game or less. On a 20-minute game, you will have 225 stacks, IF you have FULLY maximized stacking every 4 seconds.
15 mins game, half of that time is farming and pushing. And if your team clashes a lot, the game will end more or less in about 10 mins. So having it as your 1st item, reaching 50 stacks is already an accomplishment.
If thunder belt passive also gains stack when hitting enemies using skills, then yeah that would make more sense. Problem with thunder belt getting stack by using a basic attack is that tanks obviously has pretty poor basic attack range
Gatotkaca: Remember my Passive? 200 Physical Defense when low-HP. 9999 Stacks Thunder Belt: Man, this guy has so much Physical Defense. (A total of 10019 Hybrid Defense) Clock of Destiny: Why not make it higher? (72 Hybrid Defense) Radiant Armor: I got nerfed, but I have a total of 172 Magic Defense at max stacks. Blade Armor: As the item with the highest Physical Defense, I will help you. (90 Physical Defense) Dominance Ice: You still need me for Anti-Heal bro. (70 Physical Defense) Warrior Boots: Don't forget me! (42 Physical Defense) Tank Emblem: I wonder how much Hybrid Defense will this guy have? (10 Hybrid Defense) Firmness: Tenacity? (6 Hybrid Defense) Tenacity: Combined with my 15 Hybrid Defense, this guy will have about 10582 Physical Defense, 10344 Magic Defense. And he can deal 20976 True Damage to enemies.
Yesterday, I faced great enemy Yu Zhong as jungle Gatotkaca that match, and I built him CE, Oracle, GoD, Twilight Armor, and Athena Shield/Radiant Armor, and I made the hardest game into easy game as MVP with this Gatot build
Meanwhile me adding Sky Piercer in my arsenal for Fatot. Yes, you heard it right. Fatot as it Fat Gatot with 28 TB stacks as of now (current record as roamer)
where does it say he played for 11 hours and 6 mins? and also it wouldn't take that long if you get 40 stacks every 4 seconds. I didn't do the math but it wouldn't take any longer than 1 hour, impossible.
@@PopcatVerse i think bro you did meth not math.... Why you roasting yourself... Also 40 stacks 4 sec? Thats literally 600 hybrid def a min and 6000 hybrid def in 10 min ....
So Thunder belt is very useful in the first or the second item so it is already stacking up early and will be useful in late game. But maybe it still depends because not every 4 seconds you can hit an enemy hero
except ALL items that are immediately useful in the EARLY game is a better first purchase. if you dont believe me, just try buying clock of destiny in high rank and watch how many people flame you.
No need to half it, damage reduction scale is getting lower with more defs, that's why even with all those def stats enemy can still hit more than 6 damage (maybe with baxia and old radiant you can nullify it but you get what I mean right?)
Elgin, do you have a profile pic of Eudora by mere coincidence? Two days ago someone called Elgin(with a verified MLBB content creator squad and everything) checked my profile, and I was wondering 3 things: - Is it really you? - Why(unless it was just out of pure curiosity)? - And most importantly, HOW, I AM FROM SPAIN, PROBABLY NOT EVEN CLOSE IN TERMS OF SERVERS, THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE FOUND MY PROFILE UNLESS YOU CHECKED THE DARKEST STAT LEADERBOARDS OF MOBILE LEGENDS OR SOMETHING xD With that said, take care and keep up the good job man 🤙❤
Kairi visited my profile too(his real acc with verified onic squad tag and hidden favorite heroes feature for pro-players) but like you ik that there's no way that it's actually him so i'm still wondering how Ps:I have a footage of it cause I thought that nobody would believe me lol
@@ElginRay I don't know if you are being sarcastic but I'm gonna suppose you aren't. The thing that would surprise me the most is how would you even find me in the first place considering the server difference(even more creepy considering it happened like 2 hours after I finished watching one of your last videos, damn that's an insane coincidence xD)
@@mouhaghost8720 Hah, cool I'm not surprised that much about "oh look, it's that famous person!" but rather about how the hell would he find my profile with the server difference, like, it's not like I currently have any global title on any hero to be found in the hero-based leaderboard sooo I was kinda flabbergasted 💀
I've discovered that Badang is one of the best heroes to abuse this. Everything he does will be a basic attack and considering his massive area of effect and control, you can potentially get 10-20 stacks in one team fight
I think this item is balance for tank user because in real match no way you can stack to 9999 stack (even 200 is hard to stack) and hybrid defense can counter by penetration
So this is the reason why Moonton releases Edith Collector skin out of the blue because she's gonne be meta with this New thunderbelt combo in upcoming update. The conversion of defense to attack for Edith is unstoppable if this will be her 1st item (core item)
I’ve played Edith a lot with the new Thunder Belt, and she just isn’t getting stacks. I finish the game with like 18, and this is when I’m MVP with 30% of the damage.
A game normally lasts 20 minutes on average so 300 stacks "if" you hit a hero every 4 seconds. Not to mention it also takes a while to get the item. That's a lot of defense still
imagine in a pro game this even reaches like 500 stacks because of how back and forth the game is
That's like 33+ minutes of nonstop hero on hero combat, ignoring recalling to regen and travel time. More likely 100-200 stacks in a match if it's your first item.
@@jenjenhocho3188 especially how in pro scene, "useless" little fights rarely happens since there is no objective. In open match, we'd fight for literally no reason just for seeing an enemy lol.
stacking items are terrible items anyways, just look at clock of destiny
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@@kurukuru4120
On average you get 100 wich is pretty good
Here's the calculation:
60 / 4 = 15 stacks per minute
Normal games last about 10 to 15 minutes. But in reality, building the item will take a few minutes. Let's say you were able to build the item in the first 5 minutes. We can potentially get around 75 to 150 stacks on a normal game or less. On a 20-minute game, you will have 225 stacks, IF you have FULLY maximized stacking every 4 seconds.
But then you'll have to buy the equipment to start doing it
15 mins game, half of that time is farming and pushing. And if your team clashes a lot, the game will end more or less in about 10 mins. So having it as your 1st item, reaching 50 stacks is already an accomplishment.
You need to continuously hitting the target every 4 seconds so yeahh it's hard unless you are poke hero like rafa or Angela valir
Don't forget every hero have different cooldown. You can get multiple stack by hitting more enemy Heroes
@@HanzoShodaVajust play on aldous and you are unbeatable on late games
Lore Accurate Johnson and Edith
Edith one I agree while js is just a car right?
Bruh as if we could survive getting crushed by a car 😂 @waleedabdullahkhan5706
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706yeah imagine surviving a car crash with 50% of your hp still in your body but dying to a wrench
not quite lore accurate lmao
Johnson will hit you so hard that you will start a new life in another game.
Did someone say Johnson I can explain with that! 😁😁😁
True Tank Layla 🗿
The only right build
Don't forget marrie
@@Nammnai123 I've meet them on the enemy side. Karrie with rebamp thunder belt. Not pleasant
@@mohdfarhan5255 but it seems the meta is gone now ?
Lore accurate layla tank
Layla best tank😂
If thunder belt passive also gains stack when hitting enemies using skills, then yeah that would make more sense. Problem with thunder belt getting stack by using a basic attack is that tanks obviously has pretty poor basic attack range
it is bad for roam tanks. but for exp tanks like tank arlot, this could be abused
@@quibble9003 agreed since most of the time your either providing vision or just using skills
Yeah probably not tank item but for Fighter item only
Except for khufra though, it is literally free stack because of his passive
Edith on mm form might be able to get a few extra stacks
Imagine Johnson with that kind of shield and his enemy is Esmeralda
Esme: Hippity hoppity your shield is now my property
That would be sk sad
Esmeralda can have shield of only 50% of total hp . So even that would not help esma in any way
@@justasimplecountryboy6205 bro...
1 basic atk and js dead
0:40 "is this your rebellious stage? " got me laughing
Gatotkaca: Remember my Passive? 200 Physical Defense when low-HP.
9999 Stacks Thunder Belt: Man, this guy has so much Physical Defense. (A total of 10019 Hybrid Defense)
Clock of Destiny: Why not make it higher? (72 Hybrid Defense)
Radiant Armor: I got nerfed, but I have a total of 172 Magic Defense at max stacks.
Blade Armor: As the item with the highest Physical Defense, I will help you. (90 Physical Defense)
Dominance Ice: You still need me for Anti-Heal bro. (70 Physical Defense)
Warrior Boots: Don't forget me! (42 Physical Defense)
Tank Emblem: I wonder how much Hybrid Defense will this guy have? (10 Hybrid Defense)
Firmness: Tenacity? (6 Hybrid Defense)
Tenacity: Combined with my 15 Hybrid Defense, this guy will have about 10582 Physical Defense, 10344 Magic Defense. And he can deal 20976 True Damage to enemies.
Yesterday, I faced great enemy Yu Zhong as jungle Gatotkaca that match, and I built him CE, Oracle, GoD, Twilight Armor, and Athena Shield/Radiant Armor, and I made the hardest game into easy game as MVP with this Gatot build
...and heck, I bet even this Gatot main "Well Played TV" will love it too
Yeah im ready to using gatot again, in epic rank 🗿
lore accurate Gatot
Meanwhile me adding Sky Piercer in my arsenal for Fatot.
Yes, you heard it right. Fatot as it Fat Gatot with 28 TB stacks as of now (current record as roamer)
S5 is very happy looking at the buff at layla tank
Happy Birthday Elgin!🎁🎂✨🎊❤️
Now, we need a full stacks Thunder Belt versus max Aldous stacks or Cecillion stacks
Finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary
Respect Elgin for letting his phone cook while he was sleeping for 11 hours 6 mins just to get 9999 stacks and its 3 time
where does it say he played for 11 hours and 6 mins? and also it wouldn't take that long if you get 40 stacks every 4 seconds. I didn't do the math but it wouldn't take any longer than 1 hour, impossible.
@@PopcatVerseIts simple math go to School instead of Playing ML whole day.
@@PopcatVerse i think bro you did meth not math.... Why you roasting yourself... Also 40 stacks 4 sec? Thats literally 600 hybrid def a min and 6000 hybrid def in 10 min ....
@@PopcatVerse1 stack for 4 seconds.
So 15 stacks for 1 min
15x60 = 900 stack for 1 hour.
So for 9999 stacks
9999/900 = 11.11
11 hours 6 mins
@@___MANA___ 0:11
Need I elaborate further?
So Thunder belt is very useful in the first or the second item so it is already stacking up early and will be useful in late game.
But maybe it still depends because not every 4 seconds you can hit an enemy hero
except ALL items that are immediately useful in the EARLY game is a better first purchase. if you dont believe me, just try buying clock of destiny in high rank and watch how many people flame you.
@@quibble9003Clock is just so shit now after the nerf, especially because mages want to fight alot early since they rotate around the map more
Moonton:If everything is op, nothing is op
Loving this Item! Its like also the Heartsteel version of Leagues. Glad for tanks to shine once again
0:53
*"Hey That's Not Polite!"*
*Also The Lord Doing 8 Damage: 🗿*
Welcome to UNBALANCE LEGENDS 🗿🗿
MOONTON: 👁👄👁
How is it unbalance?? The stack in this vid are literally unachievable, and in normal game u probably only get 30-40 stack in 20 min
50 stacs already crazy in a fight man...
My Bro Elgin made me remember about 99999 Cecelions stacks 💀
imagine 99999 stack cecillion with 9999 stack thunder belt 💀
@@T1mo777thunderbelt triggered using basic attack, cece main damage from his first skill
Me: The stats marksmans get are halved right?
Moonton: ...
Me: RIGHT!?
Um Karrie tank 😢
No need to half it, damage reduction scale is getting lower with more defs, that's why even with all those def stats enemy can still hit more than 6 damage (maybe with baxia and old radiant you can nullify it but you get what I mean right?)
Minions: gets her! Attack!
That one minion: die you beach
Now tanks also have Immortality💀
the real immortality
Now is the right time to use this:
"IT'S OVER 9000!!"
*Esmeralda going to have a huge feast with that Johnson passive XD*
Elgin, do you have a profile pic of Eudora by mere coincidence?
Two days ago someone called Elgin(with a verified MLBB content creator squad and everything) checked my profile, and I was wondering 3 things:
- Is it really you?
- Why(unless it was just out of pure curiosity)?
- And most importantly, HOW, I AM FROM SPAIN, PROBABLY NOT EVEN CLOSE IN TERMS OF SERVERS, THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE FOUND MY PROFILE UNLESS YOU CHECKED THE DARKEST STAT LEADERBOARDS OF MOBILE LEGENDS OR SOMETHING xD
With that said, take care and keep up the good job man 🤙❤
That's not me
Kairi visited my profile too(his real acc with verified onic squad tag and hidden favorite heroes feature for pro-players) but like you ik that there's no way that it's actually him so i'm still wondering how
Ps:I have a footage of it cause I thought that nobody would believe me lol
@@ElginRay I don't know if you are being sarcastic but I'm gonna suppose you aren't. The thing that would surprise me the most is how would you even find me in the first place considering the server difference(even more creepy considering it happened like 2 hours after I finished watching one of your last videos, damn that's an insane coincidence xD)
@@mouhaghost8720 Hah, cool
I'm not surprised that much about "oh look, it's that famous person!" but rather about how the hell would he find my profile with the server difference, like, it's not like I currently have any global title on any hero to be found in the hero-based leaderboard sooo I was kinda flabbergasted 💀
@@x_Foxy_ that's what i'm saying, that's wild 💀
*that is the Johnson that fought Megatron and X-borg in one sitting*
SUN : who will dare to fight me later?
TB Sun is one hell of a nightmare
"Hey thats not polite!"
Lmao that minion "*bleep*" sent me 🤣🤣🤣
as a Marksman Suport i happy hearing this
I never thought I would one day see a one hit everything item😂
Edith: I am now a god.
johnson and edith when late game with thunder belt☠️💀
I've discovered that Badang is one of the best heroes to abuse this. Everything he does will be a basic attack and considering his massive area of effect and control, you can potentially get 10-20 stacks in one team fight
Finally, Edith unlocked her true power.
Lore Accurate Edith
We have cecilion stack infinitely on Heroes now on this Item. This is a great definition the longer the game goes the stronger it gets.
Edith probably used thunder belt while sealing those gods🥰🥰😍😍💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
Aulus with 9999 stack on thunder belt + crit + lvl12 💀🙏
Bro imagine aldous
Here's a commendable round of applause to the 2nd turret for actually standing up and not getting one hit_ed
Cecilion be like: guys did u forgot about me😂😂😂
Thamuz is gonna have a fine time being lore accurate
I just found out today, Hanabi can do 70stks...
The inner turrent that survived the edith ult at the end:
I think this item is balance for tank user because in real match no way you can stack to 9999 stack (even 200 is hard to stack) and hybrid defense can counter by penetration
Try use blade armor with it,imagine the damage deflected💀
those that can hit multiple enemies in one basic attack can benefit alot on thunderbelt since it can stack multiple times in one basic attack
So this is the reason why Moonton releases Edith Collector skin out of the blue because she's gonne be meta with this New thunderbelt combo in upcoming update.
The conversion of defense to attack for Edith is unstoppable if this will be her 1st item (core item)
How about karrie with thunder belt?
Kinda nerf for her. Cuz she spammed skills to abuse the passive.
Shooters can turn into tanks in the future😂
Moonton: (Triggered) I’ll ban you
Moonton: CHEATER!!!!! I WILL NERF
Clint & Karrie: Is my turn
Tank with thunder belt"i have 9999 stack in thunder belt i am unkillable"
Mages with pandora's box"U sure about that?"
Moonton Took Layla Tank So Personally 😂
I’ve played Edith a lot with the new Thunder Belt, and she just isn’t getting stacks. I finish the game with like 18, and this is when I’m MVP with 30% of the damage.
Mann!!frm lst few days montoon going crazyy on items🗿
What about chufra in his second skill?
Early bird gonna go crazy with this
The question is can we get to the max stats?
Its so high even her dad can't hurt her got me😂
Imagine Cecilion with his max dmg stacks and max thunder belt stacks lmao
The horde of minions were vile 💀
Karrie is about to become even more powerful
Hi elgin, can you check the Dimension Dragon recall effect, was it removed by moonton? I can't find it on the recall gallery. Thank you!
Esmeralda is gonna love the new thunderbelt.
Edith after this revamp: ⚡🌩️💀
Cecilion : Finally a worthy opponent
So it's also stacks ha.
Aldous: I like it.
I wanna see 2 heroes with full stacks fight eachother
Moonton : let's nerf for only limit 500 stack
Btw u can 1 shot the base
Spiked Armor is gonna be op with this amount of DEF...
Now that's a true dad's belt
Perfect for those 12 hour match
Cecilion max stack: finally, a worthy opponent
"Meet your end --+"- edith
not the "die you b****" from the minion😭
A game normally lasts 20 minutes on average so 300 stacks "if" you hit a hero every 4 seconds. Not to mention it also takes a while to get the item. That's a lot of defense still
50 stacks is still good
dyrroth with melefic roar: "im miss the part where's my problem
Thunder belt on belerick be like:ultimate return damage nightmare
in real game, getting 20 stack is already impressive 😂😂
Johnson, edith, belerick might have a good time even if it doesn't reach full stacks.
"Even her dad cant hurt her"💀💀💀
Now everyone can be One Punch Man.
Bro that's impractical 😮
Aldous : guess im invicible now 😂😂😂 650 stack + 999 stack
Mine got stuck at 569 stacks. Attacks won't trigger thunderbelt anymore
in the future moonton will make one round that takes more than 1 hour to realize a hundred stack of thunderbelt😅
Masha be like : heyy guys, i'm back 😎
Malefic roar: 🗿
Aldous mains after seeing this: HAHA NOW IM INVINCIBLE
Aldous with thunderbelt is terrifying at late game
Me when Johnson passive kicks in : Wat the f**k!!!!!?????
Early bird will love this new thunder belt with his js😂
You what they say enjoy it while it last because it will receive balance changes in the future
Johnson and Edith gangsta until Esme comes
Nah edith will one shot esmeralda with max stacks. Even with zero wrath.
I still remember cecilion having a one shot lord a long time ago... Now js and edith joined the team
At this point aldues gonna be overpower again 😂
That time edit turn into power ranger
When she turn human form
Sound be like:
"Go go power edit " 😂
The Layla tank is real!