I only upgraded to an RTX2070 from my R9 390 because I upgraded to a 1440p monitor and needed the extra grunt for that resolution, but at 1080p the R9 390 is an awesome card and still apparently compares favourably to an RX580, and even performs well at 1440p in less demanding titles. One of my favourite GPU's is that R9 390, and it was rock solid for reliability, better than this 2070 has been, some of the older drivers caused my system to BSOD almost every hour regardless of load, although the current one is pretty good for stability.
@@mrmagoo-i2l I would argue that even 6GB is fast becoming inadequate, and even 8GB is insufficient for some titles, which is crazy how in just roughly 10 years since I became a PC enthusiast we've gone from 512MB being good enough for even Crysis to run well to 8GB being exhausted in some titles. That's a 16x increase in VRAM in relatively short order, it kind of makes AMD's decision to go with 8GB in some of the R9 290x models seem a pretty sound choice, as even the 200 series isn't that far behind the 300 series.
My 980 ti is still holding up well too. Literally been waiting to get a new card but my wife got me a nice 75 hz 1080 ips monitor with a very good picture so I don't see the reason for spending 400 for a 5700xt when I can't really make us of it.
Nice! I am rocking a 144hz 1ms response 1080p monitor currently, it runs a lot of games at that 144fps mark, although sacrificing some quality here and there
I have a Gigabyte GTX970 G1 gaming OC'd to 1503 mhz and the vram is the biggest hindrance. It runs cool and quiet and is a gorgeous card but its huge with its triple fan design.
Quite honestly. Nearly all settings in rust don't affect the fps. Ram must be 16gb but ideally 32gb and cpu must be very strong with good clockspeed. That's how you get good frame sin rust sadly.
Someone must of needed crack rock really bad. 2 for 40 USD? Seriously? Hell even if it was one that would be crazy. Never see that happen up here in Canada.
@@the_guy_with_yeeyee_a_haircut no 960.. they still perform great for the price so a 970 would be a wonderful deal under 100usd. The question is.. at 100 bucks do you get a gtx970, 1060 or rx580?
@@kondzix2014 for a budget gaming PC I built under £100 it's done pretty surprisingly honestly. But yeah 7 series are ideal if you can get them at a decent price as with any card really👍
i had 2 gigabyte G1 GTX 970's up untill a couple of months ago, & they played just about every game i have most at high to ultra, I even bought shadow of the tomb raider which ran at medium & still just got an average of 60 fps. these cards are excellent & i agree that they are still pretty good for gaming in 2019. great video.
Glad your internet is back up and running well. It's easy to see why the 970 was/is popular, good value, solid and flexible. The option of switching to SLi mode if needed is useful, even today. Although only certain games are SLi compatible, this does include the Call Of Duty series, Tomb Raider series, Borderlands, GTA V, Battlefield Series, Rainbow Six Seige, Batman Series etc. In Sli mode, two 970's running at 1080 is pretty equally to a 1070Ti. With the 970 available for under £100 used, it's a decent enough card to start off with if someone is trying to make their money stretch building a VR setup. So in answer to your question, I would definitely touch a 970 with a barge pole!
Good to see somebody showing that older hardware can still be good (at least in value) and not trying to sell you the latest Graphics card or processor
found one in the dump literally today, and had to take it (don't worry, i had permission). It worked flawlessly, even after multiple hours of stress test after a thermal paste change. I cant believe someone would throw out such a beast.
same here i love the 970's i had (sli setup) but i replaced with 2 of the strix 1070's & i think these are awesome. running literally everything i have at max
HaloNoobGrunt I’ve literally been using a 1070Ti for months now. But the catch is I have a 2080, I can’t use it because my old CPU bottlenecks it. So now I have to wait for someone to buy my 1070Ti to get a new CPU.
have mine for 2 years now coupled with a i7 6700k 4.6ghz oc,the evga ssc version overclocked to 1530mhz core,got a performance of a stock 980/1060,cant believe how it still holds up so well after 5 years
Running a GTX 970 in 2020, really good card. I also have an overclocked i5 to 4GHz. Doesn't run EVERYTHING perfectly, but runs most stuff on medium-high settings
I had horrible performance in 1440p at times, the gpu is limited by that 3.5gb vram issue. My framerate would randomly get cut in half out of no where.
A good card, just changed mine for a rtx 2060, didn't suffer to many problems really, probably the vram becoming an issue now! Great channel by the way, great content, just subscribed 👍
Pro tip, you can run fallout 4 at up to 90fps without any engine issues. They retooled it with the release of fallout 4 vr. Seeing as vr games "have" to run at 90fps to avoid motion sickness, they tweeked the engine to handle 90 fps. That tweak was also patched into the regular version of fo4 as well.
Im gonna hold on to it. Just ordered a R5 2600X and a MSI B450 Tomahawk, and im gonna get a second hand 1070Ti in a few months when the prices drop, and ill be set for Cyberpunk.
Got a 970 a few weeks back. Fairly happy with it for 80€, got an EVGA one. The thing with Witcher is, you can run it at settings visually borderline indistinguishable from maximum even on a 750 at 1080p60, just as long as you turn off the pesky Hairworks. Sure you can see the difference in the hair, but... honestly i never found single-pixel-thick strands of hair appealing in any game, i feel videogame hair works better as a volume with a couple layered transparent textures rather than a collection of individual hairs.
i bought 2x MSI 970 4G edition (SLI) in 2014, just 5 minutes ago i bought an used 1080TI that is gonna be replacing them after 5 years, these cards were beasts when they came out
I think you're being CPU bottlenecked in certain games mate, I have the 970 msi and a i7-7900K and I outperform you on pretty much all of these games🤷🏻♂️
@@brofist4675 it was CPU bottleneck. the CPU is running so hard it throttles down to keep within thermal threshold, and the GPU is forced to pull the slack.
@@brofist4675 You don't get it do you? Cpu usage not reaching 100% doesn't mean that the cpu is not limiting the fps. A 2990wx for example would always game with around 10% usage but that doesn't mean there isn't any cpu to make the fps higher. A 9900k @50% usage is going to be faster than a 2990wx@10%.
@@haonanzhang6759 thats good and all, but neither of those cpus are being used on this benchmark. The cpu is clearly not doing anything to hold the gpu back.
I still have my EVGA SC version. Overall, I've loved this card. I'll likely wait for the next gen of Nvidia cards or get a used 1070 in the next year or two.
Of course you should ! I have one and it stills a BEAST @1080p in 2020 ! I bought a pre owned card in a perfect shape for only 50 bucks... What else for a slightly budget ? Nothing.
Got a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 here and it's extremely solid. Got it oc'ed to 1490mhz right(can crank it up more if needed, just don't want to.) My particular card can actually come close to stock 980 speeds, and it even exceeds it when I need the extra power, so that's a plus in my book
Finally bid farewell to my 970. I don't play extremely demanding game, RDR2 at most, though that sounds contradictory. The issue that finally made me decided to change wasn't performance. For 1080p it is just right, serving me loyally for 6 years. However, to maintain that level of performance, the 970 had to exert itself all the time. Even simpler games like Apex can have frame drops due to the 970 fake 4GB VRAM and inability to keep up. If I keep the fan running at a reasonable level, the card reaches 80 degrees Celsius at 90-100% usage easily, going into the 90 sometime. That's not great, and eventually its performance suffered somewhat despite my effort to give up a clean every few months and new thermal paste. The new cards much more efficient, they can perform at the same level at lower wattage, thus lower temperature. That alone was worth the trouble of hunting down cards at MSRP.
AMD has confirmed that the next generation Xbox is going to be running a 8 core zen 2 chip, so I don't see why they wouldn't do it for the PS5 either. As for a 5700xt, I don't think they would. It's confirmed for a 2020 release, so to drop manufacturing costs of the 5700xt for a $500 console seems a bit farfetched. Maybe they'll pair it with a vega 56 or 64 or even the 5700.
good review, but you should have put the figures on msi afterburner overlay for the vram usage as some of the stutter could be caused by the slower 500 mb portion.
The 970 was a hidden gem. It often delivers 80% or more of the performance of a 980, at a much lower price. If you buy one used today, you can often get them for $80-$100 where a 980 would hit you for $120-$140, making the 970 a much better value.
nice, im doing the same thing but my 970 is the nvidia one with the green logo.I have another one from zotac with 2 fans but its even loader than the founders edition one.....which in context they arent really that loud but its just funny it is
I have two MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING 100ME | Graphics card running SLI, never had any problems with them. Bought them both New for 300 hundred each when they were released.
In 2019, there's a lot of people attempting to sell their used GTX 970 cards for over 100 dollars but realistically the price point this GPU is more likely to sell would be below 80 dollars because the 80 to 120 dollar region is filled with video cards that are competing on a value basis with performance comparable to the GTX 970. You have to keep in mind that this card uses two PCIe power cables to charge it so there is a more limited market place for the legacy card.
Few years ago i had gtx760 fail i suspect because of high temperature that i ignored, and now i had to change thermal paste on my gtx1060 to lower the temperature, i never had to do any of these things in the past and i had no gpu fail on me before kepler. Thermal paste sucks after 2-3 years
I can honestly say i have never had an issue with VRAM. even when using DLSS run at 1440p or 4k.. it also runs Hunt: Showdown on high settings around 50 -60 fps, which i was impressed by.
For 3 years I was running an Asus 970 Strix 8 gig OC edition. It was was excellent playing everything even Metro exodus at respective if not impressive FPS (Averaging 30 on Ultra). Temps were never higher than 72 degrees C. 3 months ago I bough Asus RTX 2070 Strix edition perhaps influenced by my good experience with the same edition of the 970. It is sufficient to say I’ve just returned my 3rd replacement card to Asus each one with a different problem...And guess which card has got my gaming needs covered in the meantime
Worth noting that the 970 is a bit power hungry. 150 watts for a basic model which is the same as the substantially more powerful 1070. That said, they can be found cheap on Craigslist and FB Marketplace while delivering nice numbers and chewing through even demanding video editing. --- Big sticking point for me is that it gives nearly identical performance to a RX 480 which can be had a fair bit cheaper. Likewise, an RX580 gives you a bit better performance for cheaper in a 4gb model or the same cost and even better numbers in a 8bg model.
on a 4th gen i7 + 970 Forza Horizon 4 gives 60fps solid @ 1440p mid settings, 2160p even gives 50hz. On a TV setup adaptive v-sync @ 50hz is a decent option for this card. Very strong in most games, not just @ 1080p
Got my gtx 970 windforce back at 2015 and it is still a BEAST! But some games demand tweaking settings to make it 60+ stable. Still, extremelt powerful i cant belive!
Still running twin GT 750's in sli in a 6-year-old laptop. Once my new system is up and running, I will retire it as back up. I went from high ultra settings 6 years ago, to classic warcraft on level 3 setting! I got my money's worth. 4 gigs of graphics will run most things in low to low mid settings still. You have sold Dirt rally 2 to me. I love the look of this. I will obtain it once my pc is up and running :-) How does this card do today still in SLI?
I run a 970 rig and it holds up easily. I play Modern Warfare hitting 60-70fps easily with no noticeable framerate drops at around normal-high settings (may get more with a more powerful CPU since I run a 3470 as well)
Im running a gigabyte G1 970 since I realised that my old GTX 260 is like trying to play GTA 5 on a toaster. I have just upgraded to a 2K monitor because I think with decent settings it can handle it and it does. For sure, you can't expect frame rates above 70 fps on whatever you play, but I'm fine with it and still enjoy the details of witcher or modded skyrim
As far as modern cards go it about ties an RX 570 in userbenchmark. It is still usable if you are okay with 1080p and turning some settings down a little.
I have my 970 left from my old build. In the process of saving up for a 2080, but came across an exact match to my 970. I now have them in SLI XD good enough for now.
I have the EVGA SC variant and to be honest, it all depends on what you want to achieve. I would say you're set at 1080p but really nothing more than that i would say. Still a brilliant card
Unfortunately my EVGA 970 SC ACX 2.0 died and had defective memory, something about the 3.5g mem and that 500mb part. I ended up getting a 1080 Ti one launch days few years back and havent looked back. Cheers!
As Gigabyte 970 owner (got that 4 years ago), I will change "her" only when RTX will be really lower in price and more popular... That day i will make a new RIG, but for now still rockin my: i5 3550 (OC) / 16gb RAM / 850evo 500gb / gtx970 g1 (little OC) ...still a wonderful macchine for 1080p 60fps tho! ;)
My intention with getting the 970 back in the day was to run pretty much any game at 1080p. It holds up pretty well, although it does struggle in more modern titles probably due to the VRAM issue.
The 970 is basically the same performance as the rx570 and gtx1060 3g I would pick either the 570 or 970, depending on price. Both can be had for as little as 80€ which is an absolute steal for such a capable graphics card
You should if you are really interested in IT and yet, have two college degrees in it, have a home lab and yet can't get a job in a highly populated area. It doesn't matter what you do and you don't have any money so it doesn't matter what you SHOULD get either way you won't even be able to afford even this! I'm forever stuck with a 650, that's the best I will ever be able to get. No matter what happens!
The GTX 970 was my first high end card though I had to sell it due to financial reasons at the time and I only "upgraded" to a GTX 1060 though the power and temperatures were vastly superior. However, ironically, I never really got anything more powerful then a GTX 970. I would really like to be able to game at 1080p on Ultra settings 60+ fps. Though not sure if the 970 is capable. It really struggled with Assassin's Creed: Unity back in the day.
Running in my daughter's machine with a Ryzen 1700 CPU and no issues. Was thinking of a 1070 replacement when they came out but nah. Not even now. I might think of replacing it with a new AMD GPU.
My current card is the ZOTAC GTX 1060 6GB. My previous card was the Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 970. That 970 was the first card I ever bought that let me play Crysis at full 1080p with all settings Very High. Crysis is still gorgeous. My GPU before the 970 was 2 x GTX 550 TIs. Yeah there is no way I could play Crysis on 550s at the same settings even with 2 of them. I still have my 970 as a backup card now in case my 1060 goes to silicon heaven before I can afford an upgrade.
Gtx 970 Asus strix for 140 cad is what I have paid for these cards recent days. Its decent for 1080p gaming and video editing with a i5 4670 or better GPU. Budget gaming 2019! All day long boys and girls
I have this exact card still and its never let me down, I'm running it with an old Bulldozer clocked at 4.2ghz and 16gb of ram, I really want to get another one and SLI it just to see how far I can push the system, before I replace it all.
Still very capable and mine kept going even under an unrelenting overclock to get a 1440p 60fps constant. I did swap it out for a 1070 for a more relaxing 1440p experience but the 970 definitely did its job well. Pair it with a skylake i7 and it will not do you wrong
I've had a 970 in my system since 2014 and I think it's still a beast. I often use it on my 60" 4k tv and usually have no problem running most games at 1440p and even 4k. People always dub it as a 1080p card but I don't think that quite does it justice. Also great for emulation, Zelda botw at 1440 gets real close to constant 60fps or 30fps at 4k, anything from GameCube runs 4k no prob. I'll happily run with this card till it dies.
had the strix 970 since it was released. i did upgrade to a 2070 and yea its much faster. but still the 970 performed really well in ark / gta 5 and so on on medium/high settings. if you can get it for really cheap its a great deal i think
Still have it in my PC from 4 years ago and it runs anything I throw at it on at least high at 1080p without even overclocking. I think as long as no 4k is required this card can hold itself for at least 2 more years.
"I like to throw in crysis every now and then"
*throws it in EVERY SINGLE TIME*
- RandomGaminginHD 2k19
It's EVERY now and then, mind you
can it run crysis
@@MarksterC can it run minecraft with RTX
Crysis is awesome
lol
Wow look at that, was just thinking about whether a 970 is worth it nowadays
stop reading my mind
Markster You ever seen the meme of Michelle from "Full House" holding up two pistols? That's the reaction You should be having
Honestly depends what you want to play. I'd advise waiting and getting a 10 or 20 series if you want 1440p in newer titles :)
I just bought a gtx 970
i bought one in April I think, I've been very happy
I have a 980ti
I've got an R9 390, 8GB GDDR5 - still holds up extremely well, and comes from the same era :-)
I only upgraded to an RTX2070 from my R9 390 because I upgraded to a 1440p monitor and needed the extra grunt for that resolution, but at 1080p the R9 390 is an awesome card and still apparently compares favourably to an RX580, and even performs well at 1440p in less demanding titles.
One of my favourite GPU's is that R9 390, and it was rock solid for reliability, better than this 2070 has been, some of the older drivers caused my system to BSOD almost every hour regardless of load, although the current one is pretty good for stability.
I got a 390 as well bro! I play at medium or low on 1440p at 144hz and it's still going strong!
It will hold up better than the 970.
6GB of VRAM is fast becoming the standard.
@@mrmagoo-i2l I would argue that even 6GB is fast becoming inadequate, and even 8GB is insufficient for some titles, which is crazy how in just roughly 10 years since I became a PC enthusiast we've gone from 512MB being good enough for even Crysis to run well to 8GB being exhausted in some titles. That's a 16x increase in VRAM in relatively short order, it kind of makes AMD's decision to go with 8GB in some of the R9 290x models seem a pretty sound choice, as even the 200 series isn't that far behind the 300 series.
@@PaulTheFox1988 bro i use amd radeon hd 5450 with 512 mb vram
and i play csgo
Hey I think the gtx 970 is still really good 😁
It is for 1080p, no need to upgrade yet if you use that anyway.
@No_Mercy nice man. Every upgrade is good imo.
@No_Mercy oof thats a rip. Now u got a legit one tho
I got 960 works really well
My main gpu is the 1070 and I probably won’t upgrade maybe when the prices come down
Still running on geforce gtx970 myself, runs pretty much all new AAA games
My 980 ti is still holding up well too. Literally been waiting to get a new card but my wife got me a nice 75 hz 1080 ips monitor with a very good picture so I don't see the reason for spending 400 for a 5700xt when I can't really make us of it.
Nice! I am rocking a 144hz 1ms response 1080p monitor currently, it runs a lot of games at that 144fps mark, although sacrificing some quality here and there
@@TheColemancreek can I have ur wife pls
RDR 2 says hi. I have gtx 980 and i cant have fps above 60 in rdr 2 unless i set everything to low.
@@ariton2990 what processor?
It was my first gpu and served me well for the year I had it. I salute you 970!
What did you upgrade to?
@@pissedoffhoneybadger3733 1070, then a 1080 ti
A single year? Damn I should upgrade more
@@BIOHAZARD_V2 rtx 2060 is cheaper and better😎
@@izpcshop7326 That's how technology works, duh.
Bro, you should accept sponsors for this channel, because, well, why not! You are doing a very good job and deserve some "help". Cheers!
Nah....
How about no
True i believe extra cash won't hurt
Dollar shave club is a good sponsor and nordvpn.
@@ZarodGaming the nordvpn one didn't age too well.
I have a Gigabyte GTX970 G1 gaming OC'd to 1503 mhz and the vram is the biggest hindrance. It runs cool and quiet and is a gorgeous card but its huge with its triple fan design.
have the same card
I used to have the exact same one
I also have the same one,works just fine
I have the same card too. The triple fans were one of reasons I got this version.
Thanks for including the rust fps average. I never expected the gtx 970 to get that fps in fantastic settings
Quite honestly. Nearly all settings in rust don't affect the fps. Ram must be 16gb but ideally 32gb and cpu must be very strong with good clockspeed. That's how you get good frame sin rust sadly.
@@mikedodd8487 yeah I noticed that It does not make alot of difference unless you turn on the anti aliasing
I bought 2 gtx 960's this year for under 40usd absolutely worth it
You mean 970 ?
Someone must of needed crack rock really bad. 2 for 40 USD? Seriously? Hell even if it was one that would be crazy. Never see that happen up here in Canada.
@@the_guy_with_yeeyee_a_haircut no 960.. they still perform great for the price so a 970 would be a wonderful deal under 100usd. The question is.. at 100 bucks do you get a gtx970, 1060 or rx580?
@@DeViLzzz2006 1 was 35 the other was 40..
I got a 960 4gb for only $50. It was not a huge upgrade from my 750 Ti but it's still pretty great nontheless.
It`s still a good card for a budget build, depends on the current price.Thanks for the video.
I'm currently using a gtx 770, still works decently and was great in my budget build. Only cost 30 pound too 🙌
GTX 7xx are the best for a "cheap" pc
@@kondzix2014 for a budget gaming PC I built under £100 it's done pretty surprisingly honestly. But yeah 7 series are ideal if you can get them at a decent price as with any card really👍
i had 2 gigabyte G1 GTX 970's up untill a couple of months ago, & they played just about every game i have most at high to ultra, I even bought shadow of the tomb raider which ran at medium & still just got an average of 60 fps. these cards are excellent & i agree that they are still pretty good for gaming in 2019. great video.
Please consider displaying the video memory usage. Especially for this card it's a factor which can show the current limit of the GPU in modern games.
Not really, at 1080p it's pretty unlikely to go over 3.5gb vram on reasonable settings (medium/high). Wouldn't recommend one for 1440p though.
It is 2023 now, and this is still on the most competitively priced gpus on the used market.
Glad your internet is back up and running well. It's easy to see why the 970 was/is popular, good value, solid and flexible. The option of switching to SLi mode if needed is useful, even today. Although only certain games are SLi compatible, this does include the Call Of Duty series, Tomb Raider series, Borderlands, GTA V, Battlefield Series, Rainbow Six Seige, Batman Series etc. In Sli mode, two 970's running at 1080 is pretty equally to a 1070Ti. With the 970 available for under £100 used, it's a decent enough card to start off with if someone is trying to make their money stretch building a VR setup. So in answer to your question, I would definitely touch a 970 with a barge pole!
Nice review, I give a 3.5/4.
Good to see somebody showing that older hardware can still be good (at least in value) and not trying to sell you the latest Graphics card or processor
Still Rock in 2019 ! even without OC... impressive!!!
Thank you so much for the rust preview it's hard to find people testing hardware on rust for some reason.
I bought a 970 g1 edition, I love this graphics card
found one in the dump literally today, and had to take it (don't worry, i had permission). It worked flawlessly, even after multiple hours of stress test after a thermal paste change. I cant believe someone would throw out such a beast.
Maybe they threw it out by accident, happens sometimes...
@@artmallory970 or they threw it out on purpose. not everyone cares about selling old stuff cause they don't need the $$$
wowwwwww just sold that exact palit 970 few months back still a solid card at 1080p now using a 1070ti
same here i love the 970's i had (sli setup) but i replaced with 2 of the strix 1070's & i think these are awesome. running literally everything i have at max
HaloNoobGrunt I’ve literally been using a 1070Ti for months now. But the catch is I have a 2080, I can’t use it because my old CPU bottlenecks it. So now I have to wait for someone to buy my 1070Ti to get a new CPU.
have mine for 2 years now coupled with a i7 6700k 4.6ghz oc,the evga ssc version overclocked to 1530mhz core,got a performance of a stock 980/1060,cant believe how it still holds up so well after 5 years
Running a GTX 970 in 2020, really good card. I also have an overclocked i5 to 4GHz. Doesn't run EVERYTHING perfectly, but runs most stuff on medium-high settings
I had horrible performance in 1440p at times, the gpu is limited by that 3.5gb vram issue. My framerate would randomly get cut in half out of no where.
'out of nowhere' being when the ram spilled into system ram. VRAM is really important in a lot of games
A good card, just changed mine for a rtx 2060, didn't suffer to many problems really, probably the vram becoming an issue now!
Great channel by the way, great content, just subscribed 👍
Pro tip, you can run fallout 4 at up to 90fps without any engine issues. They retooled it with the release of fallout 4 vr. Seeing as vr games "have" to run at 90fps to avoid motion sickness, they tweeked the engine to handle 90 fps. That tweak was also patched into the regular version of fo4 as well.
If you could manage GTX 970 SLI under 180$ then you, my dear friend, are in HEAVEN!
well except sli support is ass
@@DunhaCC Yes SLI Support is really bad, but crossfire is even worse. I have an HD 7990, not many games support crossfire
980ti is better
Im gonna hold on to it. Just ordered a R5 2600X and a MSI B450 Tomahawk, and im gonna get a second hand 1070Ti in a few months when the prices drop, and ill be set for Cyberpunk.
If you want to reduce Rust load times, install it on an M.2. You'll FLY through the asset warmup.
I recently bought one a week ago, running most games on high-ultra! much better than I thought despite the age.
I still have a 970 and it's perfect for 1080p. I can run just about anything at high / ultra
same
Great Video! Wasn’t long back I took a look back at the GTX 980 and it was still pretty impressive.
i have a gtx 980 in 2019
All I have is a gtx 1070 😌
Got a 970 a few weeks back. Fairly happy with it for 80€, got an EVGA one.
The thing with Witcher is, you can run it at settings visually borderline indistinguishable from maximum even on a 750 at 1080p60, just as long as you turn off the pesky Hairworks. Sure you can see the difference in the hair, but... honestly i never found single-pixel-thick strands of hair appealing in any game, i feel videogame hair works better as a volume with a couple layered transparent textures rather than a collection of individual hairs.
Got a used gtx 970 strix off ebay 2 years ago, still running strong!
i bought 2x MSI 970 4G edition (SLI) in 2014, just 5 minutes ago i bought an used 1080TI that is gonna be replacing them after 5 years, these cards were beasts when they came out
To load Rust you have to put it on an SSD, it takes 5 mins on SSD and 35 mins on a HDD, I too have a 970 but its the Strix version
wtf you on
I load in rust in 1 minute or so, HDD.
@@hill-billy1 Why does rust take so long to load?
The only thing missing from all these benchmark videos is VR performance. The GPU is so important there.
I think you're being CPU bottlenecked in certain games mate, I have the 970 msi and a i7-7900K and I outperform you on pretty much all of these games🤷🏻♂️
Even though on every test the gpu was maxed, with the cpu rarely hitting 90%. It's the gpu.
@@brofist4675 it was CPU bottleneck. the CPU is running so hard it throttles down to keep within thermal threshold, and the GPU is forced to pull the slack.
@@viperdemonz-jenkins that makes no sense, especially considering he never mentioned he was being throttled at any point during the video.
@@brofist4675 You don't get it do you? Cpu usage not reaching 100% doesn't mean that the cpu is not limiting the fps.
A 2990wx for example would always game with around 10% usage but that doesn't mean there isn't any cpu to make the fps higher. A 9900k @50% usage is going to be faster than a 2990wx@10%.
@@haonanzhang6759 thats good and all, but neither of those cpus are being used on this benchmark. The cpu is clearly not doing anything to hold the gpu back.
I still have my EVGA SC version. Overall, I've loved this card. I'll likely wait for the next gen of Nvidia cards or get a used 1070 in the next year or two.
Of course you should ! I have one and it stills a BEAST @1080p in 2020 ! I bought a pre owned card in a perfect shape for only 50 bucks... What else for a slightly budget ? Nothing.
Got a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 here and it's extremely solid. Got it oc'ed to 1490mhz right(can crank it up more if needed, just don't want to.)
My particular card can actually come close to stock 980 speeds, and it even exceeds it when I need the extra power, so that's a plus in my book
Finally bid farewell to my 970. I don't play extremely demanding game, RDR2 at most, though that sounds contradictory. The issue that finally made me decided to change wasn't performance. For 1080p it is just right, serving me loyally for 6 years. However, to maintain that level of performance, the 970 had to exert itself all the time. Even simpler games like Apex can have frame drops due to the 970 fake 4GB VRAM and inability to keep up. If I keep the fan running at a reasonable level, the card reaches 80 degrees Celsius at 90-100% usage easily, going into the 90 sometime. That's not great, and eventually its performance suffered somewhat despite my effort to give up a clean every few months and new thermal paste. The new cards much more efficient, they can perform at the same level at lower wattage, thus lower temperature. That alone was worth the trouble of hunting down cards at MSRP.
Still using my GTX 970 I bought in 2015 for 200€. Gonna upgrade to the 5700XT next year. I actually have exact same specs as your test bench lol
hey do you guys think the ps5 rumors are true. a 8 core ryzen + a 5700xt seems to good to be true
edit: for 500 dollars
Do you really bekieve that. Lol
If the PS5 is $500 I predict its GPU power will be around Vega 64 levels of good.
@@therealpizzagirl yea a vega 64 still seems a bit to good. well who knows prices will have dropped in a year ish
@@hugo9016 It seems too good now but a whole year from now we will most likely have an entire new graphixs card generation.
AMD has confirmed that the next generation Xbox is going to be running a 8 core zen 2 chip, so I don't see why they wouldn't do it for the PS5 either. As for a 5700xt, I don't think they would. It's confirmed for a 2020 release, so to drop manufacturing costs of the 5700xt for a $500 console seems a bit farfetched. Maybe they'll pair it with a vega 56 or 64 or even the 5700.
good review, but you should have put the figures on msi afterburner overlay for the vram usage as some of the stutter could be caused by the slower 500 mb portion.
The 970 was a hidden gem. It often delivers 80% or more of the performance of a 980, at a much lower price. If you buy one used today, you can often get them for $80-$100 where a 980 would hit you for $120-$140, making the 970 a much better value.
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I still have my Asus Strix GTX970 paired with an I5 3570k and they're both working perfectly fine.
nice, im doing the same thing but my 970 is the nvidia one with the green logo.I have another one from zotac with 2 fans but its even loader than the founders edition one.....which in context they arent really that loud but its just funny it is
I have two MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING 100ME | Graphics card running SLI, never had any problems with them. Bought them both New for 300 hundred each when they were released.
In 2019, there's a lot of people attempting to sell their used GTX 970 cards for over 100 dollars but realistically the price point this GPU is more likely to sell would be below 80 dollars because the 80 to 120 dollar region is filled with video cards that are competing on a value basis with performance comparable to the GTX 970. You have to keep in mind that this card uses two PCIe power cables to charge it so there is a more limited market place for the legacy card.
My Palit GTX 970 just blew today^^ Had a nice 5 years of service behind her.
Few years ago i had gtx760 fail i suspect because of high temperature that i ignored, and now i had to change thermal paste on my gtx1060 to lower the temperature, i never had to do any of these things in the past and i had no gpu fail on me before kepler. Thermal paste sucks after 2-3 years
Well one of the best fortnite players (benjyfishy) uses this card and he qualified for World Cup so...........worth it
Ops Recon fortnite sucks
Ops Recon the gtx 970 boost his skill.. so no wonder
Fortnite is not a very demanding game.
LordKorval fortnite is also a shit game
I can honestly say i have never had an issue with VRAM. even when using DLSS run at 1440p or 4k.. it also runs Hunt: Showdown on high settings around 50 -60 fps, which i was impressed by.
For 3 years I was running an Asus 970 Strix 8 gig OC edition. It was was excellent playing everything even Metro exodus at respective if not impressive FPS (Averaging 30 on Ultra). Temps were never higher than 72 degrees C. 3 months ago I bough Asus RTX 2070 Strix edition perhaps influenced by my good experience with the same edition of the 970. It is sufficient to say I’ve just returned my 3rd replacement card to Asus each one with a different problem...And guess which card has got my gaming needs covered in the meantime
Worth noting that the 970 is a bit power hungry. 150 watts for a basic model which is the same as the substantially more powerful 1070. That said, they can be found cheap on Craigslist and FB Marketplace while delivering nice numbers and chewing through even demanding video editing. --- Big sticking point for me is that it gives nearly identical performance to a RX 480 which can be had a fair bit cheaper. Likewise, an RX580 gives you a bit better performance for cheaper in a 4gb model or the same cost and even better numbers in a 8bg model.
I have a gtx 970, never looked back. But I am looking to upgrade and go rtx and I will be keeping it in the 70's and going for a 2070.
on a 4th gen i7 + 970 Forza Horizon 4 gives 60fps solid @ 1440p mid settings, 2160p even gives 50hz. On a TV setup adaptive v-sync @ 50hz is a decent option for this card. Very strong in most games, not just @ 1080p
Got my gtx 970 windforce back at 2015 and it is still a BEAST! But some games demand tweaking settings to make it 60+ stable. Still, extremelt powerful i cant belive!
Still running twin GT 750's in sli in a 6-year-old laptop. Once my new system is up and running, I will retire it as back up. I went from high ultra settings 6 years ago, to classic warcraft on level 3 setting! I got my money's worth. 4 gigs of graphics will run most things in low to low mid settings still. You have sold Dirt rally 2 to me. I love the look of this. I will obtain it once my pc is up and running :-) How does this card do today still in SLI?
I run a 970 rig and it holds up easily. I play Modern Warfare hitting 60-70fps easily with no noticeable framerate drops at around normal-high settings (may get more with a more powerful CPU since I run a 3470 as well)
Im running a gigabyte G1 970 since I realised that my old GTX 260 is like trying to play GTA 5 on a toaster. I have just upgraded to a 2K monitor because I think with decent settings it can handle it and it does. For sure, you can't expect frame rates above 70 fps on whatever you play, but I'm fine with it and still enjoy the details of witcher or modded skyrim
As far as modern cards go it about ties an RX 570 in userbenchmark. It is still usable if you are okay with 1080p and turning some settings down a little.
I have my 970 left from my old build. In the process of saving up for a 2080, but came across an exact match to my 970. I now have them in SLI XD good enough for now.
I have the EVGA SC variant and to be honest, it all depends on what you want to achieve. I would say you're set at 1080p but really nothing more than that i would say. Still a brilliant card
Unfortunately my EVGA 970 SC ACX 2.0 died and had defective memory, something about the 3.5g mem and that 500mb part. I ended up getting a 1080 Ti one launch days few years back and havent looked back. Cheers!
As Gigabyte 970 owner (got that 4 years ago), I will change "her" only when RTX will be really lower in price and more popular... That day i will make a new RIG, but for now still rockin my: i5 3550 (OC) / 16gb RAM / 850evo 500gb / gtx970 g1 (little OC)
...still a wonderful macchine for 1080p 60fps tho! ;)
Laptop versions of those were horrible. Upgraded from 960m 2gb to gtx 1060 6gb and it's so much difference in just one gen.
Granted the 9xxm series where the last obviously mobile gpu's in the laptop world. The 10xx series are absolute beasts even in a laptop.
5 years ago... Holy shit time flies, I remember it like it was yesterday.
yeah that hurt to hear
@@CallumSk8er more like 6 now
@@goxy287 stop :(
My intention with getting the 970 back in the day was to run pretty much any game at 1080p.
It holds up pretty well, although it does struggle in more modern titles probably due to the VRAM issue.
Dude i just have this though in my mind then u post this video bro, love your content
I ran modern warfare at ultra high settings with this card and its safe to say this card still has quite a bit of life left in it
Just bought one used. Pushes my 2560x1080 ultrawide like a dream
The 970 is basically the same performance as the rx570 and gtx1060 3g
I would pick either the 570 or 970, depending on price. Both can be had for as little as 80€ which is an absolute steal for such a capable graphics card
Still running this card today and it still plays most games at high-ish setting at 60+ FPS.
Ordered a 1660 ti Gigabyte Windforce Oc yesterday, just a quick flex before i watch the video
Hah! Nice 💪 i got colorful gtx 1660 ti, it's beautiful
@@NexY92 Wow that graphics card is nice
You should if you are really interested in IT and yet, have two college degrees in it, have a home lab and yet can't get a job in a highly populated area. It doesn't matter what you do and you don't have any money so it doesn't matter what you SHOULD get either way you won't even be able to afford even this!
I'm forever stuck with a 650, that's the best I will ever be able to get. No matter what happens!
I had the Asus GTX970 Mini, And i absolutely loved it
I have one siting around with a 1700x I plan on building a mini ITX with. should still be a good system for games when I travel.
FINALLY someone who makes a gpu test with RUST. I wish modern reviews had rust in them
The GTX 970 was my first high end card though I had to sell it due to financial reasons at the time and I only "upgraded" to a GTX 1060 though the power and temperatures were vastly superior. However, ironically, I never really got anything more powerful then a GTX 970. I would really like to be able to game at 1080p on Ultra settings 60+ fps. Though not sure if the 970 is capable. It really struggled with Assassin's Creed: Unity back in the day.
Running in my daughter's machine with a Ryzen 1700 CPU and no issues. Was thinking of a 1070 replacement when they came out but nah. Not even now. I might think of replacing it with a new AMD GPU.
My current card is the ZOTAC GTX 1060 6GB. My previous card was the Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 970. That 970 was the first card I ever bought that let me play Crysis at full 1080p with all settings Very High. Crysis is still gorgeous. My GPU before the 970 was 2 x GTX 550 TIs. Yeah there is no way I could play Crysis on 550s at the same settings even with 2 of them. I still have my 970 as a backup card now in case my 1060 goes to silicon heaven before I can afford an upgrade.
It's still the go-to card for $/performance while still playing games well. Found one for $100cdn used.
Gtx 970 Asus strix for 140 cad is what I have paid for these cards recent days. Its decent for 1080p gaming and video editing with a i5 4670 or better GPU. Budget gaming 2019! All day long boys and girls
I have the 980 palit Jetstream and I can say they're very well built, quiet and cool GPUs very underrated company
Still works like a champ and most of my streams are done on one. Pairs nicely with an old 6 core Xeon on an X58 board.
I have this exact card still and its never let me down, I'm running it with an old Bulldozer clocked at 4.2ghz and 16gb of ram, I really want to get another one and SLI it just to see how far I can push the system, before I replace it all.
Still very capable and mine kept going even under an unrelenting overclock to get a 1440p 60fps constant. I did swap it out for a 1070 for a more relaxing 1440p experience but the 970 definitely did its job well. Pair it with a skylake i7 and it will not do you wrong
Dude I bought a GTX960 just a couple months ago. It was a huge leap from my old 750ti
I had 2 970s in sli then I sold them for $300 and bought a 5700 xt. And I got that $30 check too
I've had a 970 in my system since 2014 and I think it's still a beast. I often use it on my 60" 4k tv and usually have no problem running most games at 1440p and even 4k. People always dub it as a 1080p card but I don't think that quite does it justice. Also great for emulation, Zelda botw at 1440 gets real close to constant 60fps or 30fps at 4k, anything from GameCube runs 4k no prob. I'll happily run with this card till it dies.
I completely forgot I got a little cash from jumping on the lawsuit for this
The 970 is a great card. Ran almost all my games medium settings with over 60 fps.
i have the strix 970 and doing well in every game i've played on 1080p!
had the strix 970 since it was released. i did upgrade to a 2070 and yea its much faster. but still the 970 performed really well in ark / gta 5 and so on on medium/high settings. if you can get it for really cheap its a great deal i think
Still have it in my PC from 4 years ago and it runs anything I throw at it on at least high at 1080p without even overclocking. I think as long as no 4k is required this card can hold itself for at least 2 more years.
Literally just bench marked my old 970 G1 Gaming and it worked pretty good