U.S. NAVY MAIN BATTERY FIRE CONTROL NAVAL GUNFIRE TRAINING FILM 81604

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  • @altonmedcalf5790
    @altonmedcalf5790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was a missile fire control tech in the 70-80's. It was amazing to learn our capabilities. But what really brought it home was when we were shown the laborious and time consuming analog systems that our fathers had to work with and how they mastered it. Tip my hat to those guys.

    • @josecanusee680
      @josecanusee680 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was a FTG on board a Gearing class DD, range operator on the MK1A Fire control computer, totally analog, compuer was HUGE! But once locked in, devastating fire accuracy. USS Agerholm, DD826, had some of the best NGFS scores on the west coast! We fired a ton of rounds at San Clemente island.

  • @damilla1958
    @damilla1958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I wish that I could have watched this with my Dad. He was Main Battery Plot on BB-48 USS West Virginia during WWII. It would have been great to have him elaborate on this, and to hear more of his "War Stories!"

    • @achtungbaby91u26
      @achtungbaby91u26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These are air soft pellets compared to the west Virginia shells!

    • @PhantomP63
      @PhantomP63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The things he must have seen. WeeVee got a first-salvo hit at the start of the Surigao engagement- outstanding accuracy!

  • @allandavis8201
    @allandavis8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Even though this is a very old training film it was very interesting and informative to us history buffs, thanks for sharing. 👍

    • @robscott8296
      @robscott8296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dj Phantom your right about that sailor

  • @aaaht3810
    @aaaht3810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The complexity and ingenuity of the guns and fire control systems on these battleships and cruisers always amazed me. Even the old Mk 1A computer and 5"38 guns on my old Gearing class FRAM I destroyer were fascinating.

    • @davidrobinson7112
      @davidrobinson7112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hannibal C. Ford would be proud to see his range keeper displayed and explained. GO NAVY! HURRAH!

    • @josecanusee680
      @josecanusee680 ปีที่แล้ว

      USS Agerholm, DD826 used that same equipment!! Had both forward mounts after FRAM and memory says FRAM 2 but can't remember which, 1 or 2!

    • @aaaht3810
      @aaaht3810 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I served on USS Hollister (DD-788). FRAM I.@@josecanusee680

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing they could hit anything with that convoluted setup

  • @Thunderdog73
    @Thunderdog73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fascinating and excellent video. Thank you US Navy and contractors.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Turret #2 sounding smug at getting off two more rounds than #1, then #3 trumps them all with 33!

  • @ADRIAAN1007
    @ADRIAAN1007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Never knew they used radar reflections from the water columns of the missed shells to calculate a 2 dimensional map for lead and distance.

    • @KJs581
      @KJs581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yeah, called a B scope. Most are familiar with a PPI (360 degree sweep radar screen); but the first radars were A scopes (range/amplitude) which were used for most AA tracking. B scope shows range/bearing and generally a "magnified" small portion of the surface around the target. Splash spotting reported and corrected. Initially, surface engagements used a director to track/shoot surface targets, but as the directors became more sensitive/sophisticated and optimised for AA, they moved to either desensitising the director for surface targets (to resist surface reflections (clutter) ) ; or using a surface search radar for "track while scan." The surface search radar is used for the splash spotting observation. Now they have moved from that to phased array systems. Spent 40 years working with that stuff, starting with MRS-3 (903/293 radar, type 12 DE), through M22/M44 (type 12 DE/Daring DD), then 9LV-453 (Anzac class FFH). Loved it.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KJs581 Same was for aircraft and even early Buk Systems in USSR had separates scopes for range / elevations.

  • @davidwise1302
    @davidwise1302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Yeah, 1950's or earlier. Whenever you see the US flag with a regular rectangle of stars, you know that it was before the inclusion of the states of Alaska (49) and Hawaii (50).

    • @AdamosDad
      @AdamosDad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good point, It says 1954 in the video description.

  • @peterbills4129
    @peterbills4129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Outstanding Turret #3. 33 rounds downrange! Turret 2 report to the mess hall, and turret 3 to the bridge.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love the way they blow the bosun's pipe* and the bugle down the tannoy. :D
    * stop it

    • @hatuletoh
      @hatuletoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed. You'd think by 1954 they'd have some sort of recording they could play, but maybe there's a certain timbre you only get from the live performance of a man blowing a horn into a tube.

    • @biguncle554
      @biguncle554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That horn gives the ship +10 moral

    • @casualobserver3145
      @casualobserver3145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. We were still piped to quarters in 1980. No bugle though.

  • @joecalobeer6396
    @joecalobeer6396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a crew! Those guys obviously trained constantly to eliminate the enemy... kill or be killed! As a bomb loader in the Air Force, I learned what it was like to be a team player and a viable member of a crew. What was sooo cool about the training is, you were always trying to be better, to improve. To be the most safe and reliable while trying to do it in the least amount of time. Teamwork!!!👍🏼

  • @USSBB62
    @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can get all your answers. If your ever in Philly or across the river in Camden, New Jersey. BB 62 USS New Jersey is open to the public. Every day and a bunch of different tours. Including the newest one down the main passageway in the center of the ship. We called it Broadway

    • @adamtarbaux7769
      @adamtarbaux7769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing in LA on uss Iowa

    • @stevewhite6252
      @stevewhite6252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have toured both the New Jersey and the North Carolina. The North Carolina, located in Wilmington, is a much better touring experience because it basically has unrestricted access to everything. There are lots of restrictions on the New Jersey. For example, the engine room cannot be viewed. I was told it was because of the State of New Jersey safety regulations.

  • @MrWlbblw
    @MrWlbblw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome thanks. I'm currently working on Little Rock's plot rooms with a couple other guys. Neat to see them here looking sharp.

  • @robscott8296
    @robscott8296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:30 GQ ( general quarters) firing 11:47 12:33 rapid fire 13:08, ceasefire 14:28 shell count 14:43 secure from General quarters 16:01

  • @sixstringmarauder
    @sixstringmarauder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being an airdale back in the seventies I can appreciate the work it took to engage tangos on the water some miles away.

  • @VideosfromNH
    @VideosfromNH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:00 Wow, they had HD, 2K, and email addresses back in 1954? Mind blown in B&W.

  • @chrisazure1624
    @chrisazure1624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My dad was on the the shore of Borneo in WWII and saw a bridge being protected by a battleship 20 miles offshore. Each time a Japanese tank tried to cross the bridge, it was being spotted by a plane and shot off the bridge by the ship. When my dad told me about the accuracy, I was dubious. However, a Korean War Navy vet confirmed they could do that at that time with the technology of the day.

    • @blakewerner4368
      @blakewerner4368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i remember once it was a slow day (we were in condition 3) on the gun line so we spend the watch trying to get a water buffalo with our 8in guns. i think it finally wandered out of range, not sure as i was in the t2 powder handling room feedin the elevator. i heard we never got it. they may not of been super accurate but we could put a shitload of projectiles in the air before the 1st one hit when we had to. i used to get the powder lined up all around me so all i had to do was knock them in. ruined my knees and back, if i had only known that then. i probably wouldn't of changed the way i did it though. (this was westpac 68, ca148) our turrets were more rapid fire that that one, and we used brass powder instead of cloth bags. they looked like big shotgun shells. we had to go deckside and secure the brass amidships on the o1 level every now and then, they would litter the deck all around the turret. they reloaded them is why, though we traded a bunch in hong kong to get new parts of the teak deck replaced. the projectiles were big and heavy, you couldn't roll them along like you could the powder ones. i remember we used to think the empty brass weighed 90 lbs, not sure were i heard that but they got your shirts all dirty from carrying them on yer shoulder after they were fired. you could tell a guy who worked in the turrets. i always envied the 5 in mount guys, the shells were pitched overboard automatically pretty much.

    • @ScienceChap
      @ScienceChap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The ballistics of artillery can be figured out with a slide rule. The gyrostabiliser was a huge help and the ships' crews were extremely well trained. They were trained to hit other ships. Tanks on a fixed bridge would be easy meat...

  • @wildntheyoung7814
    @wildntheyoung7814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My grandfather served on A Baltimore class Heavy cruder like this one
    He served on the USS Toledo CA 133 1946-50

    • @mnfrench7603
      @mnfrench7603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My dad was on the Baltimore 51-53. Marine Detachment.

    • @jimjonrs3932
      @jimjonrs3932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A heavy cruder...... those were pretty rare.

    • @taterhead248
      @taterhead248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aloha. I keep an eye out for my Fathers presence in these tutorials flicks. He was a Gunners mate on the USS ST. PAUL,CA-73. Korean War.
      Then onto the USS CAG-2 CANBERRA as a Weapons Systems Officer for the "Terrior" Surface to Air Missile defense system during Cuba Blockade of '62(?). Always was intrigued about these big sexy, fast, Heavy Cruisers.

  • @brendaproffitt4807
    @brendaproffitt4807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I thought they were supposed to block off areas when attack and the guns look big as well the shell's for them tbis is an awesome film thank you so much

  • @JasonBlack66
    @JasonBlack66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Merica. I have always loved you from Straya!

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great concise picture of battle order. My time was a little later but still on mid to late 40's cruisers.
    USS Newport News (CA-148) my time aboard 1968-69-70 Call sign THUNDER flag hoist; November - India - Quebec - Quebec Then onboard the USS Springfield (CLG-7) 71-72 Flag Hoist/Radio Call Sign: November - Whiskey - Delta - Mike. Our guns we fully automatic with brass powder charge, loading and firing in any position. We could theoretically fire all 1400 rounds of 8" in 15 min. . "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brothers

    • @AdamosDad
      @AdamosDad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LUCKYDUCKY 62 We could get a little bored at times that's why we went wild with so many women in so many different countries, sorry you missed out.

  • @jkdm7653
    @jkdm7653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting film...thanks! 34,000 yds. is nearly 20 miles...a bit long for 8" guns.

    • @johnknapp952
      @johnknapp952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They came to 26,000 yds. before opening fire.

    • @rjrestorationstation4402
      @rjrestorationstation4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Knapp A mere 14.77 miles!

    • @tonytrotta9322
      @tonytrotta9322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      USS Louisville CA 28 carried (9) 8 inch 55 caliber guns - range was 18 miles 31,860 yd (29,130 m) at the maximum elevation of 41 degrees. Shore bombardment the navy ships moved in close to inflict as much damage as possible.

    • @Hamchunk1968
      @Hamchunk1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      34K was when they picked up the target. Plot figures out a course to intercept based on what the captain wants to open fire at.

  • @user-td1zo3tv9p
    @user-td1zo3tv9p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Now it's time to clean those HUGE barrels!!
    NOT an envious task, I'm sure.
    God Bless our Men and Women who serve in out military forces!!

    • @taotoo2
      @taotoo2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @01000110 ! Serve not served.

    • @user-td1zo3tv9p
      @user-td1zo3tv9p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @01000110 !, was meant to refer to the present say compliment of Military personnel, but, YES, Women, too.
      I'll go one better to say we need to include FAMILY MEMBERS of ALL Service Personnel because THEY "Serve" by keeping the home fires burning and keeping the family unit together as well.

  • @jebsails2837
    @jebsails2837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saw this film as part of my training in FT-A School at G.L. I preferred the more subtle (quiet) approach to Fire Control so I volunteered for Submarine duty and served on-board WWII Diesel Electric Boats from the mid 60's until the end. Green Board. Narragansett Bay

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your service to our great nation and -- keep the bubble!

    • @atassaro
      @atassaro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also saw this at FT school in Great Lakes back in 63. Also went to sub school and served on USS Carbonero SS337 in PH.

  • @gadooooo1
    @gadooooo1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is the speed my 10 year old takes to make one play in the Battleship board game.

  • @mayfieldcourt
    @mayfieldcourt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Possibly a Baltimore-class Cruiser CA-68? Interesting that the crew are not wearing flash-hoods at battle stations. Possibly a hot-weather mitigation? Great video, thanks for sharing.

    • @MrWlbblw
      @MrWlbblw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like "132", that'd be USS MACON

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My GQ Station aboard a guided missile cruiser was in CIC. With more electronics & computer guidance this is still basically how it all flowed...but much faster. It’s amazing that with drills and training everything (...and everyone) goes into “auto”. BTW....when my 1st Class found out what cake job CIC was compared to the Repair Lockers & Rad Control, I was immediately reassigned! Lol

  • @redskindan78
    @redskindan78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine all this during a battle, say any of the cruiser battles during the Guadalcanal campaign. Blips appearing, decisions -- friend or foe? Firing as fast as possible while being hit. Hard to believe, but sailors kept all that together, carried out these steps, maybe simplified, but even loading a gun is complex. Taking hits, stations being destroyed and backups taking over. Complex coordination and all of it life or death.

    • @CaesarInVa
      @CaesarInVa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and....at night!

  • @ramsoncole4605
    @ramsoncole4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Dig the Space Balls helmets at 11:38

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you have Sound Powered Phones on your head you needed a goofy large helmet like that. Remember; Communications is super necessary to stay alive.

    • @ramsoncole4605
      @ramsoncole4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@USSBB62 Yeah, I was in the Navy for 10 years...just thought it looked pretty funny :)

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, you bet. In the Viet Era I was the third enlisted abord. A Master Chief,Senior Chief and me a Seaman Apprentice. (Guess who became the Captains Driver.) LOL. From Recommissoning to Viet Nam to Decommissoning Enjoyed every minute on BB62.@@ramsoncole4605

    • @davidtoth8975
      @davidtoth8975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember the ridiculous helmets of the death star gunners from star wars? Possibly it originates from these.

    • @AdamosDad
      @AdamosDad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@USSBB62 "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brother USS Newport News (CA-148)

  • @ZerokillerOppel1
    @ZerokillerOppel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnificent movie!!! Only I think those sailors on the deck and on top of the turret (10:24) wouldn't be standing there if there was real fighting going on...

    • @nadtz
      @nadtz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drachinifel has a video where he talks about a gun being directed from someone standing on top of the turret after communication was severed in some manner or another. I'd imagine it takes bawls of steel to do that or be on the deck in general during an engagement though. Either way gotta respect the old school navy guys, no question.

  • @garyhaber333
    @garyhaber333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My uncle was on the Burlingame, he was a lowly MS.

  • @jcfireman2215
    @jcfireman2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We never spoke that slow when at GQ

    • @briansmith6445
      @briansmith6445 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Training film. Crawl, walk, run, eh?

  • @benn454
    @benn454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    85 rounds of 16 inch AP? Someone had a VERY bad day.

    • @wayneparker9331
      @wayneparker9331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ship was a heavy cruiser so it was shooting 8" AP shells in this video clip. Still rather large (in excess of 250 lbs) and would ruin most any vessel's day.

  • @Bigmike3406E
    @Bigmike3406E 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad was on the USS Indiana in WWll

  • @captainrevenge5960
    @captainrevenge5960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A 3 hull numbered vessel, guessing its either a late Baltimore or Oregon City class heavy cruiser

    • @Kevik70
      @Kevik70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Looking at time stamp 0:26, there are two smoke stacks. This and the layout of the 5in secondary batteries would would make it a Baltimore Class cruiser. Oregon City and Des Monies Classes both have a single funnel. The Des Monies/ Salem/ Newport News also have auto loading 8in batteries where the vessel in this video is manually loaded. Looking at the hull number displayed it appears to be either 132 the USS Macon or 133 the USS Toledo, both of which are Baltimore Class Cruisers.

    • @rjrestorationstation4402
      @rjrestorationstation4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevik70 At 6:23 a Battle Bill for CA-905 USS Burlingame appears. I found info about WW2 sub skipper by that name, but no entry re: cruiser by that name...🤔🧐😳 odd

    • @Kevik70
      @Kevik70 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Travis Thacker Here's a video of the particular gun. It's really quite amazing thing to watch.
      th-cam.com/video/AXJIE50jxdw/w-d-xo.html

  • @floofycatz
    @floofycatz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, light 'em up after a succesful gun run. Can you do that in this day and age now?

  • @dbaider9467
    @dbaider9467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. How did they compensate for the weight of the barrels hanging over the side of the ship, or did they need to at all?

    • @bcoop1701
      @bcoop1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The turrets are counterbalanced so the weight of the barrels doesn't cause the ship to list in the direction they are pointing (if off of centerline). Early American battleships (prior to USS Illinois BB-7) had unbalanced turrets so when the turrets turned to the side the ship listed over in that direction limiting gun elevation and therefore maximum range. It also lowered the armored belt on that side to near or under the waterline reducing its effectiveness. So counterbalancing was definitely necessary for capital ships and probably at least cruisers as well, once they started carrying centerline turrets. Reference: www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_13-35_mk1.php

  • @billbrydon3725
    @billbrydon3725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for putting this up at around four minutes, though, your watermark blocks the video.

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @vintagelife5195
    @vintagelife5195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most of those positions are still on ship. FC's and OS's man them. I was the OS.

    • @glennrishton5679
      @glennrishton5679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was the firecontrolman but on the Tartar missile fire control radar 51C

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ the 14:20 mark, Now we know where George lucas got the idea for the stormtrooper helmets, lol 🦘🦘👍👍

  • @FleetAdmiralVildstar
    @FleetAdmiralVildstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    was that a baltimore class heavy cruiser?

  • @nubi78
    @nubi78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy cows how many people have to stand at various positions just to relay commands? One could use a panel of lights to relay all of that and save all of that manpower.

  • @alexmontgomery255
    @alexmontgomery255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true that low flying aircraft could be damaged or destroyed by the splashes of large caliber rounds?

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true. Mains are not used for AA.

  • @ariochiv
    @ariochiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks goodness I don't have to go through all that in World of Warships. I'd never hit anything.

  • @stevefreeland9255
    @stevefreeland9255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why do they use three sounds to call general quarters: pipe, bugle, and chimes/bells?

    • @1960jims
      @1960jims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The repetition of sounds and orders is Navy tradition to eliminate the possibility of mistakes. In the year 2019 with computers things go a lot quicker without the middlmen. They can slew a turret or aim a missle in seconds. In the case of a missile the target is already known and pre-programmed. The fireing sequence takes less than a minute.

  • @knightlife98
    @knightlife98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know what kind of gun, those sailors are loading @10:53? Because, I do know that one could not be throwing the powder bags of a 50 caliber, 16 inch, Mark 7 Naval Gun, around like that.....

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      check the comments... Baltimore class, so Mark 12 8-inchers, 55 cal. Each bag is 43 lbs, AP projectile is 335 lbs.

    • @knightlife98
      @knightlife98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AKAtheA Awesome, thanks Bro! Thanks for the reply!

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I'm genuinely curious about is: would ships have auditions amongst the crew to see who got the job of bugler, or was that a specific navy MOS, with buglers posted to ships as part of the crew compliment, like any other technical specialist? And if that was the case, did it mean a ship would need a few buglers so that one was always available on the bridge in case general quarters was sounded?

    • @1917Enfield
      @1917Enfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a former Bosun's Mate, it was part of the Rating. Ratings are the Navy's version of an MOS. The Bosun's Mate of the Watch is the man that makes general announcements and Pipes General Quarters and the like. Buglers were Bosun's mates, tho they received the training.

    • @hatuletoh
      @hatuletoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting, and slightly amusing imagining a mighty modern warship cutting through swells at flank speed, turning as it brings its big guns to bear on some distant enemy; and there is one guy aboard who's mind is on remembering to not to to flat in the fourth measure. Thanks to all for the info.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Navy still has Musician and band members.

  • @PaulHigginbothamSr
    @PaulHigginbothamSr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the addition of electromagnetic shooters pulling the snuffies out this could attack the islands in the South China sea. To improve world trading obstructions.

  • @travistolbert2647
    @travistolbert2647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to give the boys in turret three an extra day of shore leave and the turret one crew some extra training! lol

  • @SocialistDistancing
    @SocialistDistancing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's interesting to me is that there was no protective gear worn in the turrets. Also, it seemed to take a long time to get ready to put rounds down range. I'm sure that it happened a lot faster in real time.

    • @Internutt2023
      @Internutt2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is another TH-cam video showing a 16" / 50 Cal being fired, and one of the loudest noises in the gun room is when the barrel is cleared with high pressure air just before/ when the breech is opened. I'd imagine it was literally deafening to do any rapid succession firing. They say a good crew could get 2 rounds a minute off per barrel, but that's with everything going well.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I suspect they'd be showing a little more emotion if they really had blown the whoever it might be, Russian cruiser out of the water. They didn't seem at all worried about return fire. Do we presume for the purposes of this exercise that the enemy didn't have radar of their own and never even knew they were there?

    • @Hamchunk1968
      @Hamchunk1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I'm sure if they were engaging the Graf Spee or Prinz Eugen, there'd be a bit more excitement and urgency. Especially if they were being straddled. 😄

    • @biguncle554
      @biguncle554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont think that guy would actually be standing on top of the turret if it was a real battle lol

  • @ronsmith4325
    @ronsmith4325 ปีที่แล้ว

    Firing process is so horribly inefficient, but back in the day that wasn't really an issue.
    Today, this ship would have been minced meat before they even got the turret ready messages to spot. Lol.

  • @AlexStypik
    @AlexStypik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You didn't sink him! He just engaged the WoW cloaking device!

  • @wesparker6624
    @wesparker6624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What was the ca in the film?

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think the number is 132 so that would make her the USS Macon. It's kind of hard to make out though, but I'm sure it's not CA-905, USS Burlingame!

    • @wesparker6624
      @wesparker6624 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mishn0 Didn't look like an airship to me😏

    • @wesparker6624
      @wesparker6624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seriously, thanks. I thought it looked like a Baltimore class, but I couldn't make out the hull number.

    • @aaaht3810
      @aaaht3810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks to like USS Macon CA-132. Baltimore class cruiser.

    • @jkdm7653
      @jkdm7653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jackson Stewart It was a Baltimore class...twin stacks. Des Moines and Salem had one stack.

  • @Milkman3572000
    @Milkman3572000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a cruiser? Very interesting.

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hide the trumpet and the whistle, and the ship is helpless!

  • @smackdabular4315
    @smackdabular4315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:31 hits you right there. don't it navy vets?

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never knew they actually *played a bugle* into the PA system.

    • @robscott8296
      @robscott8296 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joseph Astier they did but not as often

    • @garyhaber333
      @garyhaber333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our GQ alarm sounded like that in 86....

    • @1917Enfield
      @1917Enfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still have my pipe and lanyard, 30 years later.

  • @andybreglia9431
    @andybreglia9431 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard nothing about the coriolis effect. My Dad was in Army Americal Division artillery on Guadalcanal, and told me about compensation for the rotation of the Earth in long range fire. It seems to me that on a moving platform such as a ship, location of ship, target, direction of fire, will affect where the shells will land as the Earth rotates beneath the flight of the projectiles. This can be demonstrated with a rifle at a thousand yards. Fire at a target due west, get your zero, and fire a group. Turn to a target due east, same hold and fire a group. The east group will center lower because the Earth is rotating away with respect to the flight of the flight of the bullets. In long range artillery where the projectile flight time can be well over a minute the effect can be substantial.

    • @rickt1154
      @rickt1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably calculated by the fire control computer according to the true target bearing and range.

  • @derhesligebonsaibaum
    @derhesligebonsaibaum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Nobody:
    TH-cam: Subscribers of Drachinifel also watched

    • @mrdoge9508
      @mrdoge9508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greetings fellow drach watcher.

  • @contrapantera
    @contrapantera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Si, pero cuando se estaba en combate era otra cosa, es diferente las practicas a cuando desde el otro lado también te estaban disparando a matar.

    • @david9783
      @david9783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tienes razon..

  • @dougfinlay7528
    @dougfinlay7528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The impressive big Des Moines class heavy cruiser--the biggest, ultimate gun cruisers ever built, with new auto loading 8" guns. Too late for WWII, only three were built. of which one (Salem) survives today

  • @skydiverclassc2031
    @skydiverclassc2031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a kick out of the closed captioning after 14:45
    Turret 1, all boys clear
    Bot 1 turret all boys clear
    Spot 133 all boars clear
    Control all floors clear where 85 expected
    control ball on Aalborg flare
    Naval gunfire is not easy.:)

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer6403 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ 5:20 a young Johnny Carson!!

    • @s.sestric9929
      @s.sestric9929 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, no.

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HA! Carson did serve in the USN.

    • @s.sestric9929
      @s.sestric9929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@paladin0654 In World War II, not after. This film was made in 1954; by then Carson had already finished college and began his broadcasting career.

  • @jamess4869
    @jamess4869 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    USS Mullinnix DD944 Fire Control Sailor..3-5in54 mounts, 1-3in50 mount, hedgehogs forward. We had MK 68 and 56 GFCS.....Shore bomb Vietnam , Boom Boom liberty call in the Philippines....

    • @jamess4869
      @jamess4869 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Surface action port, Qn the mark the target will bear, Stand by for heavy rolls while the ship is coming about, See the corpsman before you go on liberty and get your rubbers.

  • @josephkeeney4789
    @josephkeeney4789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We had it in 67 didn't work to well used human control much better.

  • @alainarchambault2331
    @alainarchambault2331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11 minutes and 48 seconds before they were ready to fire. Geesh. Wonder what would happen if while under enemy fire just one of those guys missed a step?

    • @marciabrecht5361
      @marciabrecht5361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alain...During pre cruise workups, everything is slow and deliberate...things speed up a little later in the show, during ORE and finally the actual cruise.

    • @lawrencey1443
      @lawrencey1443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of the commands that they show here actually take place at the same time. So it appears to take a long time.

  • @viperch25
    @viperch25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a repeat you all put up the same video in 2015. all you did was change the ep. number

  • @wandabordner9893
    @wandabordner9893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fc3 rangefinder operator 45to49 main one and sky one car 122 and 123
    Cl 106 also. Plot computer operator. Mechanical not digital still accurate

  • @kermittate9853
    @kermittate9853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have many interesting films in your collection, but is it possible to remove the time-code at the bottom of the screen? It's more annoying than useful.

  • @Darthbelal
    @Darthbelal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder how they unload one of those guns without firing?

    • @BOORAGG
      @BOORAGG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don't. They fire the round. Any problem and the gun is secured.

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup ! first its a Miss-fire, if it goes off its a Hang-fire.Then its a 30 minute wait, after that you replace and retry with a new 45/70 blank ignition cartridge. It that doesn' t work. Though no confermation, you remove the cartrage and fill the chamber with fresh water to soak the powder bags into a safe condition. I can't confirm this though. But we always talked about it and no one ever denied it. @@BOORAGG

    • @ericzaiz8358
      @ericzaiz8358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@USSBB62 IT was and still is that way, the Army uses a similar method for artillery guns.

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @James Reilly Your right....'bout the only thing that's close is "cease loading".

  • @eddiehagler6127
    @eddiehagler6127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No escorts and the enemy ship sank fast

  • @ramsoncole4605
    @ramsoncole4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did it really take that long to get a shot off??

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 per minute on the 16in./50's and 18 per minute on the 5in/38. Naval Gun Caliber gives you the barrel length. Inches X Caliber = Barrel Length. 16 X 50 = 800 inches or 66.67 FT.

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, I forgot to mention that's per gun. And your looking at 9 guns @ 16" and 20 guns @ 5". In the Viet Nam era.

    • @ramsoncole4605
      @ramsoncole4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@USSBB62 Ok cool...because it looked like it took like a full minute to get a shot off.

    • @USSBB62
      @USSBB62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the Film they show an Eight inch Bag gun. In the more modern Iowa Class the 16 in bag guns are modernized with more mechanical loading equipment so it was much faster.

    • @rjkee5157
      @rjkee5157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of the commands that they show here actually take place at the same time. So it appears to take a long time.

  • @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si
    @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When checks and balances have checks and balances.

  • @Hale444
    @Hale444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you really need the overlay for a 60 year old film??

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
      In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous TH-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do.
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  • @conantdog
    @conantdog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very carefully

  • @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si
    @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:02 Ryan Reynolds dad.

  • @robertcoyle1532
    @robertcoyle1532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like only luck would result in a hit in combat between two ships.

  • @david9783
    @david9783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The aircraft carrier and guided missile did away with all these.

    • @BeKindToBirds
      @BeKindToBirds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Railguns and lasers will bring them back someday

    • @frankdavis2522
      @frankdavis2522 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aircraft made them obsolete before WWll.Liberalism is a mental disorder

    • @david9783
      @david9783 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankdavis2522 That.s what I meant by "aircraft carrier"...and you are so right on your second point.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It only got rid of the BB's. Today's surface ships are more than capable of doing what these old ships can do...

  • @Lockbar
    @Lockbar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool to see, but the enemy already got 3 salvos fired off at you!!

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The USN is more likely to fire those three salvos first than the Kriegsmarine or the IJN. The only other Navy that can do that as well as the USN is the Royal Navy and they are allies...

  • @simonjackson7269
    @simonjackson7269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's a training exercise....but why is nobody wearing Flash Hoods or Tin Hats.....

  • @pnartg
    @pnartg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! In the amount of time it took them to prepare their guns the enemy would have blasted them out of the water long ago!

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      See Battle of Savo Island.

  • @greghilton7797
    @greghilton7797 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After all that they missed and had to fire again

  • @ejd53
    @ejd53 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is amusing that they open fire at 26K yards. Don't think that happened in real life with a Baltimore.

    • @guns2112
      @guns2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This could be a Salem class. They are very similar ships.

    • @ejd53
      @ejd53 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Eskridge Nope, Salem was a Des Moines class with one funnel, this has two. Also Des Moines class did not use bag guns.

  • @victoracunamendez7525
    @victoracunamendez7525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo boy a inventar un sistema de ataque qué Disparé Rosas , atacando solo mujeres bonitas.