What To Look For When Buying A Used Bike | GCN Tech Show Ep. 231
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2024
- Buying a second hand bike is a great way to get value for money but when you dip into the preowned market, there are always a few things to look out for to ensure you get a good deal. Manon and Alex discuss what to look out for when buying a used bike, as well as bringing you the latest hot tech and your bike vault submissions!
00:00 Intro
01:01 Buying Used Bikes & Kit
06:20 This Week’s Poll
07:11 Hot Tech
12:59 Best Bike Shop In The World (*This Week)
13:42 Bike Vault
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What’s the best thing you’ve bought second hand and do you have any tips of your own to spot a bargain?
Pinarello Prince. Tip: be patient and check sites everyday
@@account28191 There certainly are bargains to be found!
S Works Roubaix, 2 years old, immaculate condition, Sram Etap, bargain at £3995.
Time Scylon frame $1500 nearly perfect. One clear coat chip. Rim brake bikes are getting dumped and can be picked up cheap.
I bought a set of Shimano SPD pedals from a mountain biker friend of mine who decided he doesn't like being clipped in.
A Guyer's Buide to second hand gear
Llanon Moyd mixing up her words!! 😂
HAHAHA! I can't stop laughing. I do have a habit of making words up
@6:05 Manon did the ol' letter switcharoo too with "guyers buide" lol you're not alone Alex!
I have never owned a brand new bike. I always buy secondhand bikes and then my local mechanic helps me to fix it up and upgrade parts.
In my opinion it is better to own a secondhand bike with good parts than a new bike with lower end parts. I have also bought some used wheels.
A few mistakes I made when I bought my first used bike
1. Make sure the bike is the right size. This may sound stupid but if the bike is not the right size you will have a lot of problems down the line. Especially for younger riders I bought my bike when I was 16 thinking I will grow into it.
2.LOOK at the bottom bracket you often get so exited and this something you can easily miss like I did.
3.Look for buckled wheels.
4.If you buy your first used bike and it has a lot of problems ask your local mechanic to explain to you what is wrong and how to see the problems so you don't make the same mistakes again.
If you can find a good used bike they can save you a lot of money.
Totally agree, I would never buy brand new i 've even built a mountain bike all from fb marketplace (except dropper post). Just be careful with dodgy people selling top kit but no idea about it?!
Great tips! 👍
I've bought a couple of bike racks (thule and saris) second hand , half the price of new ones and better quality than cheap generics. People often sell them because they've changed car types so they're in perfect condition.
Have they served you well?
@@gcntech I guess so, I prefer riding everywhere but if I have to drive to a ride start they're perfect. Case in point this Sunday for RideLondon where I'll be taking two club mates with my second hand bike rack and I.
Ayyyeee my bike made it on the bike vault! They couldn’t believe the frame was 2001 haha
I buy bike secondhand for resto-mod projects. Some of the things I do are take a chain checker (a stretched chain helps knock the price down). I spin the wheels to see if they're straight. I always take a multitool to undo and retighten various bolts to see if anything is seized.
15:51 - Romet is actually the biggest bicycle manufacturer in Poland! This brand is over 50 years old now. My second bike was a single speed Romet Wigry 3 - a communist era folding bike. It was fun... until the hinge failed while riding :-O
Pr0 tip: don't buy used folding bikes with strange welds
Currently converting a Wagant Sport to single speed. :)
Now we know! Thanks for the info! 👍
Lol, I still have my dark blue Wigry3, collecting rust in a basement. :D
Bougt both my TCR and TCX 2nd hand. TCR sl di2, TCX composite 0. Together ~1700 euro. Both where essentially untouched for years.
6:07 Manon "Guyer's bide", excellent spoonerism!
Romet is a polish bike and motorcycle manufacturer ;) ASPRE 1 is their most popular gravel bike, there are A LOT OF THEM in Poland, affordable (around 700GBP 2x8 claris), decent quality. There's also ASPRE 2, with grx 2x10 for less then 1100GBP, but they are unavailable atm.
Thanks Mateusz - even we learn new things every day! 😉
6:09 Guyers Buide! 😀
You could have mentioned the new 1h record from Ellen van Dijk…
Great job guys.
I bought a used titanium frame (still using it too). No paint to hide anything, doesn't rust or
fatigue like carbon fiber; everything was superb and I got an amazing price over what I'd pay for one new. I'd never take that sort of chance on a painted bike or especially not on a carbon fiber bike!
Most everything else (components, drivetrain, etc.) is new.
The stolen ones are usually the best deals tho. Just need to paint and scratch off the serial number
Love it! Thanks! Did Manon just say "Guyer's Buide"?!
I just bought a 2007 windsor kennet with shimano ultegra 6600 group set for 125 dollars. Love it...
The new kits r lovely.
I've just bought a complete 1980 lugged steel Motobecane, sight unseen. Shipping from a few states away is costing me more than the bike. This is a nostalgia buy, the same model as my first actual decent road bike I bought way back in 1979 or 80. It does have some wear and tear, but the pictures and description indicate that is original, complete, and rideable as is. As a longer-term restoration project, this will be ideal.
Well worn shorts you can see through are described as "Anne Summers Kit" on our group rides.
14:13 thanks for the super nice👌
I showed up to buy a pair of 404 firecrests and didn’t back out when I got there and they had alloy rims. Researching later they were old zipp 404 before zipp had different levels. I took the firecrest stickers off and sold them on layer for not much of a loss. They did have a Chris king 11 speed hub upgrade, but I didn’t want 13mm internal width rims! I bought and sold many of of parts used most all wins.
All of my road/CX bikes & frames are secondhand and a number of components along side. Mostly aluminium ones (including a single speed) and one carbon. Not premium or desirable models but well reviewed on various media outlets. Absolute bargains and helps me ride a variety of bikes and disciplines on a shoestring. If you know what to look for, it's a great way to cycle.
Maybe Filippo Ganna is doing he hour record attempt from 23.30 on the 23rd to 00.30 on the 24th. He would do the hour record for 1 hour over 2 days.
Hahahaha
I have bought a Torpado frameset second hand (I knew the seller, a school chum) that I still ride 47 years later. I bought a gravel bike second hand in 2019 from a tech at a local bike shop. Him, I did not know, but, as it was a CAD3K Kona Rove NRB DL, I prepared a sales agreement patterned on standard automobile sales agreement that would protect both him and me -- him from claims of any warranty and me from being defrauded (outstanding liens or payments, and a clear title).
On the big ticket purchases such as a mid or high end bike 'buy the seller' when you're looking at or considering the bike. If there seems something 'off' about the seller then there's a reasonable chance all is not as it seems with the bike itself either. Caveat emptor and all that.
I called the bikeshop when I bought my used '11 Infinito, it was worth the call.
The funniest thing is, if they decrease the pressure of car tires, they are actually polluting more if the car is driven with a low or flat tire. The car has to work harder to do the same distance
It is extremely inadvisable to drive with a flat tyre for more reasons than just fuel economy.
Used bike shoes are pretty easy to pick up like new, as many folks give up on clipless after the 1st horizontal track stand.
Designer handbags analogy is priceless. People buy knock-off frames for the vanity.
Manon, "guyers buy" (@6:08)??? That was awesome.
Look for 'the truth about coated rain jackets' and you will find that it is much cheaper to re-apply the coating of a rain jacket. It's much cheaper and surprisingly easy!
Bought a second hand BMC Roadmachine 01 frameset, second hand Di2 components. So far so good
nice!
"Soni Criot" too funny.... Maybe the MMR was cropped because they were holding the back wheel sans Shadow Stand?
You are correct. I took the photo and we had no shadow stand at our disposal ;)
@6:07 "guyer's buide"... Welsh is a beautiful language 😃
@13:00 Bring back "Screw riding upgrades, buy upgrades" please
The design of the new kit looks great, but I'm not a fan of red, if the red was a neon yellow that would be great.
I bought a complete Giant OCR C1 used.
I bought both my road bikes second hand, and I used tips from a much earlier GCN tech show!
Where you happy with your choices?
@@gcntech definitely! Especially the second one; full carbon Felt Z6
@@jimcappa6815 my pal has a Z6 and it’s such a fast bike
FIRST!
That was a cheating 🤣
Did you just created a 3rd option Nice/Verry Nice/Super Nice bike?
Thanks for appetition in the Bike Vault
i brought campag shamal deep rim wheel {tubular) with a campag chorus hub for £120 ive used it once and the hub is not in the center of the wheel ,,
Second hand bib shorts sounds a bit specialist adult website, where well worn could be a bonus!
You should do tuxedos for the 500th GCN show.
#gcntech I was looking for a dual side power meter for my older Trek 1.5 and was able to find 4iiii’s dual sided on eBay for $440!!! Oh, did I happen to mention they were attached to a Dura-Ace crank? 😊
Oooh, very nice Stephen!
@@gcntech Wait until I upload the pic of my 2008 Trek 1.5 to the #BikeVault. She’s getting an upgrade to an entire 105 group set tomorrow. Got that for $400 :-)
"iron pants" :D American here staying abroad years ago and completely unaware of the important British/American distinction between pants & trousers, tried to assemble words from my translating dictionary to explain to the hotel staff that I wanted my trousers ironed when they washed my laundry. I got some very weird looks, but they complied and the clean clothes were proudly displayed in my room with the crowning achievement on top, neatly pressed underwear!
😂
LOL! Scrolled the comments to see if I was the only American who had watched this video. It took me a second to wonder what's wrong with ironing pants then I remembered. Let's just all be Southern U.S. and call them "britches."
Needed a small frame for my 10yo. Found a mid 80's trek 19in road bike, great find, knowing he would out grow it. By the by, anyone need a extra small road bike?
This week is official "grease your pedals-week".☝️🚴🚴🚴
I've purchased pre-owned wheels, shoes, pedals, and jerseys.
Many brands sell lower spec bikes into poorer markets. Not actually fake but not intended for some markets but if they turn up here they could be confusing and perceived as fakes. Most brands don't manufacture themselves, most its just importing and others its just assembling mainly. In the EU we get bikes from factories that avoid EU tariffs like Cambodia, Vietnam etc but in another market like the US they may get slightly better made bikes made in mainland China. You could perceive one as fake based on the wrong manufacturing country but that wouldn't be the case. When you look around you can see some manufacturers produce excellent frames and forks at low prices and others produce poor frames and forks at high prices so always worth doing your research on what factory the brand actually uses. I think bikes are more a lifestyle product like cosmetics than about engineering. People spend extra for the right brand because of marketing, heritage or sporting success. You can often get a fantastic deal second hand if you choose the wrong brand but the right product from the right factory. Shop brands from Halfords, Decathlon, Go Outdoors etc are bought direct from the factory and retailed instore so start at a much lower price and the second hand price of those can be much lower too. A few years ago Halfords were getting a lot of their bikes from Merida in Taiwan and they were amazing frames for the money. Great bikes for a fraction of the price of the big brands. More recently they have used Insera Sena (Polygon) and some models fuji-ta like folding bikes. Some very decent factories better than some of the big brands to be honest. There is a big difference between actual quality and perceived quality. You see bikes from the more expensive high quality Taiwanese factories appearing in the cheaper shop brands at lower price points than the big brands. A shop might use a high quality factory at a £1500 price point but a big international brand maybe £2500-3000 and the Italian brands that operate on huge margins might be £4k.
Can we have Bike's Vault only when Olli is there? Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Manon the best 👍
That's dangerous. Suppose the person needs the car in an emergency and coming to a flat tire. The world's gone crazy.
It's criminal - and if people are caught they will be treated like criminals. Deflating tires jeopardize people.
I bought a 2011 carbon Cannondale Road bike off eBay. The guy had a good price and talked like it hadn't been road much. Chain was worn out, rear cassette and bearings gone. Had to buy whole new rear tire because it was free bearing...fast forward it now is a great bike to ride. On the plus side I scored a great buy on a used Cannondale Systemsix...rides like a dream.
How much did it cost you to restore the bike?
Whatever happened to the Upgrades segment on the Tech show. Missing those inspiring restorations...
Haha cracking up here, Manon said Guyers Bide twice 🤣
Another great tip: if you buy off Facebook Marketplace, for instance, and the seller wants you to pay via PayPal using the 'Friends and Family' option so they can avoid fees, don't do it! This removes your ability to reclaim your money through PayPal if you don't receive the goods
6:05 "Guyers buide" my brain hurt
7:11, "What's hot"
7:12: Manon.
Bite me.
Time trialing at sea level and not at altitude? What is the rationale??
Does the new kit mean ebay will soon be flooded with 2nd hand GCN bib shorts?
Happy days!
Pro Kit for Professional Cyclists. LOVE it!
Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)
The kit is nice but here in the USA it will be hot in the summer
now that would be something. Alex in a suit and Manon in a cocktail dress.😂
6:06 'a complete guyers buide' - Is that Welsh?
Marine Four Corners is the GOAT when it comes to touring. A sturdy steel frame but the fucker can take it. I have used it in the Himalayas
Manon, I'm wondering is a "guyers'buide" Welsh for "buyer's guide"?
Nailed it
Several bikes a virtual new FELT Z75 with 105 group set for £700 a well maintained very good condition full Carbon FELT F5X CX for£700 and some virtually new GIRO MTB Shoes thrown in free
My first ever road bike, ok not a superbike but she was to me. BTwin triban, less than a year old, only ridden twice, lady having a baby. She paid £450 , me paid £80 after a little haggling :) :)
Great deal!
Bought a second bike to use as a commuter, seller described it as a “good” condition. Turns out it needed new brake pads, new tyres, new cables and a new stem, oh and the derailleur hanger was loose!
That doesn't sound like a particularly good condition!
When you’re sitting on the edge of your seat waiting to see your bike on the bike vault but it’s not there 😔
The dirty Ribble, lifts the front wheel over puddles.
Please inspect the frame of a bike VERY CAREFULLY in normal sunlight or if it is dark use a torch. I mean inspect the entire frame from Seat stays, chain stays, top tube, seat tube, down tube, head tube and fork.. the whole jolly lot. WHY? I've purchased a second hand bike only to find out afterwards when turning the bike upside down, that there was a crack in the frame where one of the seat stays joins the seat tube. Aaaaaagh!!! Gutted does not describe the feeling.
Do y'all practice that you know pulling out your laptops together very fast like a couple gun fighters pulling there pistols out. Lol
Good content.
keepemcoming
one of our many talents
@ 2:38, did that dog made a catch?
Can you get a smaller bell?
Never!
remember the specialized scandal they had to settle a law suit against them for using stolen materials for their frames. and they still charged retail prices to their customers.
On the point of bags, I just bought a fake designer Saddle Bag! Damn!
Used Chinarellos are a bargain. I’ve seen some kitted out with premium parts. Buying used bibs is like buying used knickers.
Buy an ultrasound detector first before going for a second-hand carbon anything.
"guyer's buide" 😂
i would love GCN kit but can not afford it:(
Guyers buide..... 🤔
Class! 🤣🤣🤣
Manon sO cuTe😋
The bike vault this week is very half arsed... The Dr won't be happy
He definitely wouldn't have let that muddy Ribble in as a 'super nice'
Nahhh ur saying my bikes half arsed
I honestly thought you were going to say "currently hold the 1 hour record at 55,089 minutes". :)
Sounds like something Ganna could do
I feel the "Dr. Ollie" joke will turn to be true...
I ONLY buy used bibshorts
Always insist on dropping the fork out and checking carefully any ringing around the fork where the headset compression ring would sit...any "ringing" or wear due to a poorly adjusted headset should be inspected as this is a potential failure point you really wouldn't want to happen....
# bikeshop was sold to trek .
This episode was so short 😭
Buy last years model some time you can pick up a bargain
Carbon nano filaments, could that be grapheme? Lol
Better off buying a secondhand bike off a friend as you pretty much know what you are getting
The reason helmet manufacturers say to replace the helmet after 3-5 years is because of compression and degradation of the foam - not because new helmets are safer. They are the same standards so they are likely the same in terms of safety.
Not sure I’d like to buy someone else’s bib shorts either ugh!!! 😱😱😱
"guyer's bide?"🤣
Obviously used rim break wheels are a risk. Hard to tell how much wear the break track has had
A lof of rims have a ring inside the brake surface as a wear indicator. Is it even with the rest of the rim surface the rim is worn.
If there's no wear indicator you can measure the rim at the outer edge (where it don't wear) with a vernier caliper, if the rest of the rim is more than 1 mm narrower per side it's worn.
Guyers bide killed me 🤣🤣