Man this set really demonstrates something that I don't think a lot of people understood during the "ban steve" wave. When you play properly around _one_ of Steve's iron options, it forces him to use even more iron to cover his whiff and keep himself safe.
in game 1 acola didn't only 3 stocked anathema with 14%. He literally 0 to game him. Between the moment Acola hit for the first time and the end of the game anathema didn't get a single hit
Honestly really glad that acola learned to stay away from Town and City since his explosive use of iron does not gel well with how little iron is on that stage. That's the stage where a majority of his games lost came from during the Summit
The “ban Steve” losers seem to conveniently forget that Steve has losing matchups (unlike Brawl Meta Knight, Smash 4 Bayo) and also has ways for players to counter him (unlike Wobbling). ROB has been in the game since day 1 and makes his own wall as well with his broken tilts, aerials, Gyro, Laser, and nobody has once said to ban the character. People just need to stop complaining and learn the matchup, like Kola, Light, and Anathema clearly have.
If we get to say what we want: Steve is a betrayal of the game. But that's just my opinion. We ban most hazards during tournaments, so that the characters are fighting each other; not the terrain. Then we make a character who makes his own "hazards" in his favor. Acola is a great player. But to watch him rinse and repeat cart-anvil-fair and _win with it....._
@@neonvpn9485 Absolutely. I'm not saying it's unbeatable. You could have someone play as the Master Hand, and someone would beat it. But Master Hand should not be a character and nor should this mess.
@@HainishMentat yeah but be ban stage hazards not just because they’re powerful, but because they’re random. Steve isn’t random, he’s controlled by your opponent. It’s just like how characters with items aren’t banned. Items are banned in competitive, but link can still pull bombs because they’re not nearly as random as the type that fall from the sky anywhere on the stage
Too many op tools, i love the creativity that can be achieved with steve, but mine cart needs a nerf. Command grab, recovery, can combo into a kill and often does, keeps its hurt box even when it's not moving anymore. Everything else seems pretty well balanced.
@@r1pperduck He's the only character that is really a cheater, because if you take steve to a stage without platform he just builds his own, he can survive way too long if he build a wall and is able to tech the wall.
Minecart is too repetitive and powerful. And as much creativity as can be achieved by blocks, the biggest impact they have on Steve is giving him the ability to camp
The funny and scary thing is that, despite set counts after this point, this summit is making me think that the best Steve in the world is actually Onin
I hate how clearly biased the casters are towards Anathema here. I know they hate Steve, but it is kind of their job to commentate the set, not make it a rant about characters they don’t like
Tekken 20 - featuring Steve Mishima and his distant cousin Robert Mishima
Fun fact: There's a character named "Bob" in Tekken 6. When he dominated the early meta, Tekken fans jokingly called him "Bob Mishima".
😂
LMFAOOOOO
Man this set really demonstrates something that I don't think a lot of people understood during the "ban steve" wave. When you play properly around _one_ of Steve's iron options, it forces him to use even more iron to cover his whiff and keep himself safe.
damn right
Nah
he still gets out of disadvantage for free in this scenario.
22:15 the use of minecart here is insane
in game 1 acola didn't only 3 stocked anathema with 14%. He literally 0 to game him. Between the moment Acola hit for the first time and the end of the game anathema didn't get a single hit
Ya I’m surprised more ppl ain’t talking bout that
Honestly really glad that acola learned to stay away from Town and City since his explosive use of iron does not gel well with how little iron is on that stage. That's the stage where a majority of his games lost came from during the Summit
英語わからないけど即死コンボのことをMishimaって言ってのだけ分かる
STEVEN MISHIMA
Anathemaのスティーブ対策上手い
Damn both played so well, I don’t care how many say that they’re carried, they’re fantastic and how did Acola almost go out at 9th?
Bro it's been less than 5 minutes, no way you watched the set already 😭
@@MilfSlayr maybe they watched the stream?
This tournament is straight up nuts, how did Losers 9th feel like a Grand Finals each game?!
@@ravssb I did watch the stream yeah
@@pmahcgop6693 thought so
Such an explosive set wow!!
Rob MISHIMA vs steve MISHIMA
proud of anathema this tournament, really proved a lot and actually made rob fun to watch
The “ban Steve” losers seem to conveniently forget that Steve has losing matchups (unlike Brawl Meta Knight, Smash 4 Bayo) and also has ways for players to counter him (unlike Wobbling). ROB has been in the game since day 1 and makes his own wall as well with his broken tilts, aerials, Gyro, Laser, and nobody has once said to ban the character. People just need to stop complaining and learn the matchup, like Kola, Light, and Anathema clearly have.
Dabuuuuuuuuz
Steve has been exactly the same since he got added, though?
@@chrisjackson6149 yeah, I don’t think I said that he has been changed.
Say what you want about Steve but holy shit this was a great set.
If we get to say what we want: Steve is a betrayal of the game. But that's just my opinion. We ban most hazards during tournaments, so that the characters are fighting each other; not the terrain. Then we make a character who makes his own "hazards" in his favor. Acola is a great player. But to watch him rinse and repeat cart-anvil-fair and _win with it....._
@@HainishMentat And yet somehow, against all odds Kola comes out with Roy and beats him.
@@neonvpn9485
Absolutely. I'm not saying it's unbeatable. You could have someone play as the Master Hand, and someone would beat it. But Master Hand should not be a character and nor should this mess.
@@HainishMentat we ban items too. personally i think diddy, peach and rob should also be banned
@@HainishMentat yeah but be ban stage hazards not just because they’re powerful, but because they’re random. Steve isn’t random, he’s controlled by your opponent. It’s just like how characters with items aren’t banned. Items are banned in competitive, but link can still pull bombs because they’re not nearly as random as the type that fall from the sky anywhere on the stage
Dude. He literally reverse JV4’d him game one
8:33 R.O.B. Mishima
Games 1 and 3 tho were brutal 🤯🤯🤯
Anathema doing to good against top 5 (gluto and acola) made me very happy
The commentary has been hilarious this whole summit. The running jokes have me 💀 sick set too. Anathema showed up big time, props to acola.
Wow incredible set!
8:33 ！？！？！？！？！？
Acola is my favourite to watch
That game 1 was hilarious
Someone needs to make a twitter clip of game 1 where its Anathema doing 14.2% and then it cuts to the Steve win screen LMAOOO
I hope this rob goes very far
Footstool dair oos to end the set. Goddamn this Summit is unbelievable 😃
People showing up with the Steve counterplay god damn
ダイヤ管理完璧過ぎて笑う
このロボはダークホースだったなぁ
Anyone peeping Acola tag?
Wholesome
Steve is so creative how could people hate him?
Too many op tools, i love the creativity that can be achieved with steve, but mine cart needs a nerf. Command grab, recovery, can combo into a kill and often does, keeps its hurt box even when it's not moving anymore. Everything else seems pretty well balanced.
@@r1pperduck Anvil is pretty stupid too. Covers landing in the safest way ever, edgeguards, pressures shields and kills.
@@r1pperduck He's the only character that is really a cheater, because if you take steve to a stage without platform he just builds his own, he can survive way too long if he build a wall and is able to tech the wall.
Ohh where to start… you see Steve is-
Minecart is too repetitive and powerful. And as much creativity as can be achieved by blocks, the biggest impact they have on Steve is giving him the ability to camp
Onin and acola are like brothers in arms
14.2%
anathema has great mu knowledge w steve, it's a shame game 1 went the way it did
Anathemaが本気であcolaを倒そうしてるのが伝わってめちゃくちゃ面白かった！
あcolaさんロボにはカズヤだすイメージだったから意外だった。Oninの仇討ちのためかな？
以前にあcolaさんがoninを倒した人をスティーブで倒したいと言っていました！その為スティーブなんだと思います😶
あcolaさん流石😘
ROBERTO MISHIMA
The funny and scary thing is that, despite set counts after this point, this summit is making me think that the best Steve in the world is actually Onin
First round was practice lol
Didn't even watch the whole set yet, but I have to say it : acola is amazing 😱 ! This game one was 👌
Acola is the best
Hate both of these characters but like both of these players lol
I hate how clearly biased the casters are towards Anathema here. I know they hate Steve, but it is kind of their job to commentate the set, not make it a rant about characters they don’t like
that didn't happen
Steve is broken
8:33
@@DavionLane first match.
キーコン意味わからんくね？
殺害予告が沢山届いて病み垢消ししたoninのためだと思います
お前が1番意味わからん
ググレカス
Rob vs steve..... Ew
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