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I'm glad you mentioned how hard dating on Tinder is. I honestly recommend uninstalling it and just dating irl most of the time. However VR dating seems to give a new dimension (literally) to online dating and a dating app specifically for that...might be worth trying for some out there.
Not to mention it's owned by Match Group which practically owns all dating sites, apps and such which has been alleged of predatory and deceptive trade practices in the dating market.
Tinder for guys is like trying to get someone's attention while 1000 other guys are yelling at her and for girls is like trying to juggle 1000 different guys at the same time. Dating in real life or even in VR is 100% better because even if you have no chance at least you can get a minute of time and attention.
@@ernimuja6991 yup. You have a much better chance of finding a partner in person. If you can work on your people skills and approaching women irl or in VR then you're ahead of the game.
@@makiducky2305 by going to events and places where it's socially acceptable to approach people for conversation, and having social skills to get someone interested in you.
Only issue I see coming up is that people still do in fact have a preference when it comes to how their partner looks. Like yeah it's awesome you can finally get to know someone before knowing how they look, but what happens when you finally see them and you really aren't physically attracted/attractive to each other?
This is a hottake but... You're a shitty person LOL. ( Not you PonderMayne, just the people who think physical is better than other persons qualities. )
This is much better for the general socializing part of vrchat. It is kind of hard to find chill people looking to just sit back and talk or watch something.
Especially when you’re a quest user without a proper pc to hook it up to. It’s just little kids yelling the n word, ppl staring at themself in the mirror, or trolls
This is one topic that both excites and confuses me. VR dating in genetal is such a troubled but unique concept, and on top of that a semi-dangerous one too. VR dating in general can be a tricky one. There's so many amazing people and amazing possibilities but also can crush people. A lot of the issues come down to moderation and restrictions. Thanks for the coverage Phia 💙
@@StygianIkazuchi I would argue that at it's core, it is way more dangerous mainly due to the community and how easy it is to fake your age and hide behind an avatar. The addition to physical avatars and touch being added to online dating make for way more dangerous scenarios to be able to happen . BrandonFM has a very good documentary series exploring VRChat and one of the topics covered a few times across them is dating and manipulation. Would highly reccomend it's very informative. BUT on the plus side VR dating has so many positives. I think moderation needs to get better, but the concept is promising and amazing! Hopefully it improves as VR grows :D
@@TwoEzDragonI recently just started vrchat almost a week and I'm curious about those problems the one I see coming up a lot is minors is there anymore other then minors and crashers?
Most of the relationship building in relationships happens in that private time wether IRL or virtual the dinner date lasts an hour or 2 the hanging out with a movie at her house that leads to cuddling lasts for 4. The drive to dinner in a car together all that time is private 1 on 1 time and it adds up
@@nextGenspacepainter I admire your outlook. Some like myself are just meant to be single I think. I'm sure I'm the only thing holding me back. But lack of confidence and ego has had a strangle hold on me since I was 8 lol now I'm 28. Forever alone I guess lol 😂
My boyfriend lives in the UK, we’ve been together for 10 months and we also have known eachother for years. We got vr for this summer because we’re meeting in august and I love it so much, as with an already established relationship seeing eachothers body language and being immersed in random things together like escape rooms, fan made worlds of our favorite fandoms, meeting ppl together, it’s so fun, it definitely has enhanced our LDR
I would consider VRC an incredible tool for long distance relationships (both for wholesome and lewd purposes), or even just people who don't have a lot of time or money to go on dates otherwise. It's something I would definitely try to make use of in a relationship. But I don't know about establishing relationships where you haven't seen the other person (let alone don't have expectations to). Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have trouble picturing a relationship without the (even if unspoken) hope of eventually living together.
Blessed nuclear birb enjoyer. My work keeps me busy 99% of the time so on the days I have off, it feels disingenuous going well out of my way to find a partner that I'd barely be able to spend time with. Plus the time and energy going out and about would be very difficult. There's also the anxiety of meeting people in person first and the real danger of being alone with a stranger and rolling the dice. This provides a safe, comfortable atmosphere for people to more genuinely, passively get to know one another and understand each other's lifestyle foremost. It'd be nice if it had a friend's section, as I've noticed a lot of people using it purely to make new friends, too. It'd be nice to meet a partner through this, but being too busy to be in a relationship is a huge bummer.
I feel like this is going to have the opposite problem of normal Dating apps. Where normal Dating apps build on physical attraction and relationships break on the personality front, VR dating apps build on personality and the associated attraction but relationships break when the physical attraction comes into play. Even though those aspects might matter to different degrees to people they still are both important. Disregarding that seems dangerous to me.
don't meet then. if you think a relationship that's not in person is inherently inferior and everything that happened on vr is worthless if you don't manage to hook up irl then like... don't waste your time.
So I can say I have dated on vrchat twice (mostly with other furries) and I can say even though they never worked out, the time I had with them made me feel safe and relaxed. It's a shame they couldn't make it last but it honestly made the long distance feel less...far away
Hello, it's Mr Overanalyse here. What is your definition of 'mostly'? Because if one was a furry then that means it was equally furry and equally X, but if both were furries then it was all furries rather than mostly. Maybe one of them was half furry? One and a half furries? I guess that could work. My brain is ouchie now. Okay bye.
I can't believe we used to live without Virtual Reality for so long. I'm so glad I live in this century. VR is like the next huge leap after we had letters, radio, television and internet. Finally we can see each other, being present and experience exciting moments together in the most naturally feeling artificial 3 dimensional environment on distance. With each day spent in VRChat I learn more about myself and humanity, and the world around me. It's truly eye-opening and mind-blowing for people who don't travel much because of the health reasons or simply because they couldn't afford the expenses of travelling abroad.
Even though I am in my 50's, I am excited to becoming immersed in, and learning how to experience and share everything VR has to offer. These are truly exciting times we live in, and it keeps getting better.
I think a new unique piece of technology seems to come out every 10-20 years. The internet didn't exist until around late 80s-90s. Even then it was in very early stages, compared to the 2000s where it really got advanced. Smart phones didn't exist until the 2000s. I don't believe VR became a common thing until fairly recently, wouldn't have heard of it at all about 5 years ago.
A pro of VR dating is the fact that someone's actual personality shines through. People have a tendency to put up an act when around certain people, but through a headset, you have a sense of anonymity. No one can really judge you for acting the way you do sometime because that's how they see you as a whole- This is who you are to them as a first impression. VR is a new life for people, and that usually means an entirely new personality. Plus, people can say and do a lot of things and simply evade consequences, either through an alt or leaving the current world, and what they do if they KNOW they can get away with it says a lot about them.
I’ve been playing World of Warcraft off and on since 2007 or 08 and you hear stories all the time about people who met in the game and wound up going on to meet IRL, marry and have entire families! It’s amazing.
As someone who is incredibly introverted, lacks much self esteem and, at 34, having no dating experience has been hard. I’ve had no luck on the dating apps I’ve tried, but the one relationship I did have before was entirely online starting from an MMO. This app seems fun, definitely going to try to sign up for it and see what happens. Thanks for the video!
So how it worked out? I am also introverted and it is hard for me to deal with all kinds of social interactions. I will at least consider the usage of something like a VR Dating App.
My partner and I met in VRC and now live together. Definitely a possibility to find someone thru vr. I think never met will do really well if they continue with their efforts, sponsorships, and ads within the game. It’s going to become the next big thing. Vr is blowing up.
You can be lucky irl at work , when you go out etc but it never means for sure you'll find someone , especially if your confidence is very low or that your appearence is not that great (sadly). VR open the door to meet someone with similar interest and let the personality speak over anything else. So i totally agree with VR dating.
I'm an awkward mess and I don't really see myself finding a partner any other way than in VR. I have a _really_ hard time finding people I connect with, even just with friendships I've always been too picky about who I'll get close to. The brief time I could spend in social VR though... taught me that I'm not an introvert like I always thought I was. I'm just an extrovert that only really vibes with other awkward people. It's been driving me insane living with my super christian parents, it's allowed me to save up a ton of money but I literally can't even hang in voice chat in my own home because they hear everything I say and will seize any opportunity to put me down. VR Chat has been a disaster every time I try. This winter I'm finally saying to hell with it. I'm buying a nice condo near my work where I'll have a 12'x12' VR space, and I'm so excited. Hopefully in the course of making friends, I'll meet another dork like me and we'll hit it off. But even if it never happens, at least I can try. That'll make me feel so much more hopeful for the future, and I need the social interaction desperately, all I get where I live now is text chat on games and the boomers at work and it's making me ultra depressed.
While i love the idea of virtual dating apps i feel like going in VR or virtual just to date can lead to a lot of bad dating experiences. I have seen tons of online or VRChat relationships die or all apart because the two dating had a great connection but being far apart physically can lead to a lot of stressers. While yes initially its nice to make the connection online for most we would like to meet up and eventually be together IRL, and I personally feel like a lot of people dont consider how that will happen, one person or both people will need to move and thats a big life change unless they want to spend tons of money only visiting eachother for the rest of their relationship. So yes virtual dating can be nice, but also consider the IRL circumstances and ability to be together long term. Also should say that I met my BF through VRChat friends and we hung out in VRC before we started dating, we now live with each other so its not all negatives but there are some that must be considered.
The thing is the exact reverse reasoning is why most irl relationships fail or lead to loveless marriages. They get too hyper with physical and sometimes cause forever mistakes that have them basically bonded together even if they don’t actually like each other at the end of the day. At least with vr you can block a person and likely never run into them again. Both got its problems but I think that true connections are the ones that prevail either way no matter if it’s online, vr, or irl
This issue isn't "VR-specific." As someone who's been doing a lot of online dating for 8 years (since I was 16) the issue of long distance has been around long before VR. "Veterans" to online dating know the trials of being far apart. The pain of no physical touch, restrictions on time, loyalty issues, and of course the difficulty of bringing two lives together. If anything, VRChat alleviates some of that pain. I met my girlfriend in VRChat and it's an ever greater experience than any other kind of online dating I've done. Since we have the sensation or perception of being there with the person that you can't get anywhere else.
@@vulgarblvck2888 while i agree LDR have been around for a long time, VR is great because it brings people together more face to face from further away. However unlike things like where you would meet someone on tinder or fro mthe next state over VR dating apps are encouraging people from different countries to meet and then they get stuck because they both live in separate countries and will take YEARS to meet in person let alone eventually live together. Im not saying its all bad, in fact my current BF and I live together now and met online through VR and friends we both know in VR. However Lots of people dont consider the troubles they will run into in my experience from seeing so many VR relationships fail
Honestly this seems pretty cool, especially with the VTuber Community also getting bigger and bigger etc I personally don't have a VR Headset tho, so I'm not sure how good it works for someone who can't have a VR Date
Honestly I understand the appeal, I really do. As someone who met her current boyfriend on VRChat, I completely get it of course. But I think I can also say that physical attraction is still very important, regardless of how far apart you are. The idea that by dating on VRChat, your partner will completely ignore your IRL appearance is a little bit deluded. People still want someone they can feel physically attracted to on VRChat, and one day when they eventually want to meet up IRL- that will obviously become more important. Naturally for some people this will be more or less important than other aspects, but it still plays a role in the more sexual side of things: which can't be avoided. For some people it seems like the perfect option, though- like if you travel a lot for work etc. However for others, I reckon you're better off just finding someone IRL. VRChat relationships are great, until you realise that you cant physically touch the person. You can't lean on them, hold them, etc- which plays a huge role in just feeling generally connected to someone. I also think that when you have a VRChat relationship, you get used to being attracted to your partner's perfect anime avatar. But IRL, you will eventually find it hard to be attracted to real people as their appearance simply isnt perfect enough for you anymore. It's dangerous, be careful x
my soon to be husband and I met on VRchat over 2 years ago. it was almost love at first sight we were friends for a maybe like a month before we started dating. our relationship on vrchat lasted for about a year and half before we finally met in person and we would of met soon but ya know covid had to come say hello to the world but once we met for the first time it was love at first sight again. he stayed at my place for about a week and then 2 months later i would go see him in his state. fast fowarding to now we had just moved in together and we are so happy to spend the rest of our lives together. we both still talk about how we first met and how weird it now to think we use to do vrchat dates and even sleep in vr together.
I managed to meet my current boyfriend the first time I went on VRchat in Summer Solitude and even though he lives all the way in California and I'm in England, I can say for sure that VR makes me feel so close to him when we play together. It definitely helps to have a little phantom sense so I can feel when he touches my face a tiny bit, I really am glad that he is such a genuine guy and that he didn't catfish me LOL (also this is my longest relationship so far, we met almost 2 years ago on the 31st of May 2020) :)
My boyfriend in VR too, we met in furry chat and chill. He came to visit this year back in May and I'm going to him for Valentine's 2023 I wish I had phantom sense tho, neither of us have it so we don't get to bond like others do 😂
Hey I just found your channel. For the past three years I’ve only ever watched thrill seeker for my vr content. For some reason I was drawn to this video and absolutely loved it! Jaw dropped when I found out you two are together. Keep up the great content, will absolutely be coming back for more :)
An option to select a transgender option would be a good way to prevent miscommunication and false assumption. (I'm not trans but i think the trans community would like that). Also giving the option to send IRL photos to each other after the first date would be a good idea too or IRL stats at least. Just spitballin ideas.
Better than a blanket "trans" option would be: gender (masc, fem, NB/other, won't say) and genitals (penis, vulva, other, won't say). A person who would put "other" for gender would be trans, but have a different situation than someone with fem gender and a penis. Further, I think it is good not to distinguish in the user interface between people who have their genitalia from birth or surgery. Given the gender exploration on VRChat, it might be good to have multiple gender fields: IRL gender, VR gender, (other context) .
@@GemUnicornn, I understand that perspective, which is why I included the "won't say" option. However, many people on dating apps hope to find others to interact with "what is in their pants." If someone feels comfortable sharing that information, it can help them connect with others who want what they are offering.
@@be1tube I think that's more further on, tbh you shouldn't have to state that on a first date obviously when it comes to irl sex it's important cos it's apart of consent but I think it can be dangerous for trans people to state that it opens them up to alot of hate
@@be1tube Hmm, I think your idea would be better for an intimate hook up app, rather than just a dating app, but even in VR a physical hook up doesn't really matter what the other person has in their pants or under their skirt as they just personally use their own choice of adult device, and if they are both Bluetooth or internet capable, then they will work with the other person's device, no matter what kind of device it is.
It's so cute that you found your partner in VR Chat! You should definitely tell the story in a video one day. I find these things really interesting because I met my current girlfriend through Discord, I wonder if VR Dating could become a potential alternative for the "general public" in the future, if the Metaverse ever becomes real I can perfectly see this happening.
Met my girlfriend of 3 years on Tinder, in a parallel universe I would have absolutely hopped on this at the time lol. Good coverage on the topic Phia~
I was just scrolling through Tinder thinking "Man I'd rather go on a date on VRChat with someone I meet online than go through this. I sure wish that was a thing." And here I am.
VRchat dating is amazing ive gone to so many unreal places with someone accross the country. Haunted theme parks, meme worlds,nightclubs and cuddle rooms
HOL UP, when I saw thrill I smiled, it is so nice I didn’t even know that thrill and TVRS were a thing at all but just started watching her and omfg. Amazing channel, keep up the good work. Ik this is a bit late but it’s still cool. And the videos she does is awesome!
The only issue to me is that you can make a super strong bond online but when you end up seeing eachothers physical appearance it might not be what you expected and it might not work out bcus of that. And that majorly sucks.. Like I care about what others look like irl when it comes to dating but I also struggle with what people think of mine which puts me in a limbo between them both. 🤔
My first day on VRChat I met my today boyfriend. It's about 9 months ago now, and we're coming up on our 1 year anniversary. And we're about to move in together. I'm super happy to have met him, and meeting him on the very first day was kinda crazy to say the least. We're super super super happy together and I love him so much.
From I can tell of the Google Play of the Google Play Store reviews, most people seem to complain consistently about a few primary things such as: *Staying on the waiting list for a long time (ranges from a couple days to up to 2+ weeks). ***This seems to be the most consistent complaint*** *Unable to upload photos (during sign-up mostly but sometimes after *Unable to start the app (even after restarts) *Generally buggy overall *One person said they were encouraged to get a "sister app" to be approved faster I'm sure most of these issue will be mitigated overtime but I do want to say I am very excited for this app and it's potential. This could easily allow users outside of platforms like Discord to have another option. I can also this or something like to be the starting point to getting VR as a whole more popular, encouraging more purchases of headsets and more capable pc's. I want to see this succeed!
Me personally I don’t think I could do this, physical attraction is important to me to a degree. I go for personality more, but I do have a physical type too. I wouldn’t want to lead them on and break their hearts if they end up not being attractive to me, that wouldn’t be fun for either party lmao That date between the two of them was wholesome and nice to watch, and I definitely think this would be a good format for people who don’t care about appearance at all.
Im glad you touched on the age issue, its a constant concern when interacting with people online. I could see people using the app to also just find friends in their age group. I do think vr could be a valid way to meet people without some of the risks meeting in real life can have, because of the level of presence as you said does give you a better feel of a person and what they are like. Full body certainly adds to that because you are getting more of that body language and now with face and eye tracking the lines will blur even more.
I met my boyfriend Caleb on a vrchat sever and just fell in love. The feeling of falling in love for who he was just as a person has made me so happy. He loves me despite how strange, weird, and obnoxious I consider myself but he loves me for it and I never thought I would find someone who loved me for that part of myself I sometimes hate. The obvious long distance problem is that not only am I in the United States military but he lives in Finland with a 10hr time difference. I cherish what little time we get together on vrc. Now because of him I'm investing more into my VR setup (currently just a Quest 3 :( ) and learning more about VR and PCs. I never had these things growing up so I have him to thank for the feelings I never thought I would feel on top of the excitement for my future gaming experience. My last word is simply, don't be afraid of falling in love on VR you deserve to be happy and your S.O. will feel the same. ❤
I thought this was a wonderful video as I'm an anthropologist. I think that this a wonderful topic because we see how that in the past there was a way to date that was normal and it is always changing to what use to be in person, then to online dating like tinder. I honestly think that VRC dating and VR dating would expand the world of dating so much.
I really like this idea, it’s like literal blind dating where you only know who someone is then once you finally understand one another you can maybe remove the veil. Though given my first few times in social vr (which were terrifying since i’m used to being in the background and being left alone), it will probably be a long time before I work up the nerve to try any dating site let alone a vr one.
As someone who is Asexual and has "e-dated" before... It's honestly really nice for me because they don't rely on me to fulfill any physical needs that I wouldn't be able to IRL. I've had quite a lot of IRL relationships and just didn't enjoy it too much so being able to have the same experience minus the physical aspect is a lot less stressful.
I hope you can find someone who enjoy a relationship with you that doesnt need the physical aspects. purely emotional is the rawest form of love i think. U can be physical with anyone but theres only one person with that emotional connection
I met my now-husband on Tumblr. 😳 So in my experience, sometimes things are better when you're not desperately trying to find someone else. When it just naturally happens through constant interaction.
I met my current partner on vrc, we literally just happened to bump into each other and started talking in a drinking night. I ended up convincing him to come play chess with me, we added each other on discord and that was that we sent face pics pretty early on too and I'm on a call with him right now while he sleeps half way across the world. He's one of the best things that ever happened to me
it was a mess for me dating in vr, lots of bad stuff but I eventually found someone very nice and we are similar in a lot of ways and get along well, hardly ever fight. My biggest issue is I don't know if I will ever be able to meet them in real life or if their would be a long term future in it. Just know you will likely have to go through a lot of problems before you find someone good. Know your boundaries, if you get treated poorly cut you losses sooner rather then later, as you'll be closer to finding someone better, and give others a chance who you may not have at first, they may surprise you, 1st impressions aren't everything, better to live a happy life with someone awkward and shy in your first meeting then going with the confidant person who made a stellar first impression on you only to have years of arguing and let downs. oddly enough the person I'm with now I was very very scared to let them know what I looked like, and scared once they see what I look like they'd just think I'm ugly and move on. a friend of theirs actually ciber stalked me figured out my real name found my family found photos from families facebook accounts... and then showed my girlfriend. And.. well she thinks I'm cute.... not the best thing to hear as she hasn't said hansom or good looking or anything, but.. I guess I'll take it.. granted I don't know if she's just saying that to spare my feelings. but she hasn't dumped me after seeing what I look like 6 months later. So that's good. I really do just wish I looked better for them.
The one thing I don't like about anonymous dating is spending tons of time connecting with someone and getting close to them. Then seeing what they look like and not being attracted to them or even repulsed. :/
well if you're going out of your way to connect with someone on such a personal level only to then be 'repulsed' by what they physically look like, then that's your problem..
Well my partner and I fell for eachother before I even knew what he looked like. I didn't care though because I'm demisexual. Personality is what I fall for.
@@RND_03 we've got specific sexual responses directly linked to eyesight. It's biology to care. The people who don't are better off, but not all of us think that way. Like anyone wouldn't choose someone beautiful or specifically attractive to them over someone they're less attracted to if given the choice.
@@artoriusveritas6779 Exactly. I think when it comes to VR dating you'd have to decide ahead of time if you wanted to keep it strictly VR or not. If you do, then irl looks won't ever come into play. I think a lot of people are dishonest in denying looks don't matter. Even in VR, would you date someone who insisted on always using a knuckles avatar? How about Deadspace mutant avatars? I think everyone has got some level of preference when it comes to visual appeal, in VR and irl.
ive been dating in vr for a bit now and i recently met someone who ive really started to vibe and get close with. We just seem to click so well and im so grateful i have vrchat to because i probably would have never met him otherwise. hoping things keep progressing and i can meet him irl sometime in the future!
I met my current partner in VRChat. Its a cool little story I like to think about because VR is a really unique setting for dating. We were part of one of those "VRChat families" where she "had two children" and I was the "stepfather." It was totally for jokes and for fun but that dynamic made it easy to progress to something further, naturally. We eventually started talking on discord, then followed each other on Instagram, then added each other on snap, then started voice and video calling. We were friends for a couple months and after getting to know one another and seeing who each other was irl (through various social media and video calls) we very easily moved onto dating. Though a little "strange" and unique, dating in VRChat can be absolutely beautiful, fun, and life changing if done right. I totally support this idea and hope it flourishes.
Well, the future is now I guess. I remember learning about Leonardo da Vinci and how he designed things that were ahead of his time. I wondered what the future would hold, and that more likely than not, it would be something that I would never have thought of. Then Uber Eats came along. I don't use it but something as simple as a literal food taxi blew my mind when I realized that my train of thought from years before had come full circle. Here we are again, something new, and incomprehensible for many, but oddly familiar. Food taxis after all, are not that big of a jump from pizza delivery.
I loved how this app is a lot better at trying to make sure the age range is right, yet a thing that bothers me that even if they are 18 there could be some like 50 year olds who are trying to trick them into dating them? Idk about personal opinions on that but there is still that problem. Another thing I’d point out is I myself have faced the horror of being groomed so id would never want anyone to feel that so I’d definitely recommend trying to get to know their friends a little to make sure what age they are telling you is the truth. But… don’t let that scare you from trying honestly if it’s going to be a wholesome relationship you probably don’t have to worry about the age that much but if your going further then I would recommend learning as much as u can about them from friends. Anyways thank you for taking you time to read and have a lovely day/night
Well I don't have too much comment to say about this because, 1: I'm a Minor, 2: Dating isn't common here if its one by one person and its oftenly discouraged. However seeing Nevermet being introduced into VR has open up LOTS of opportunities and usually towards people who are In-secure about their irl personality, looks or just irl in general. But at the same time this could be a threat or a drawback to one common problem: They'll never know what they both look like together irl. Because at some point the couples, who met in VR, HAVE to meet up in irl in order to continue being in relationship, as well as being married But its amazing to see the VR community and market being improved with new Application being introduced into VR and closer to living in a world of VR. I hope I get to see more of something similiar to this but for everyone AND most importantly, Safe and non-threat to the community Very interesting video to hear about!
I’ve been with someone on VRC for a year and 9 months at this point and we’re still super happy and we’re going to meet in person for her birthday! 💜💜💜
I have met some amazing people in Nevermet , Creators , club owners but also people that are in for just a day to day talk ! I even heard already some love stories via Nevermet ! and the beauty is that everyone is getting accepted ofc above 18 =) Thanks for the video Phia
VR Dating Is honestly what dating is supposed to be. You aren't supposed to care on what a person looks like. It's the personality, what they like, dislike, favorite foods and sweets, ect. So on and so forth. Nevermet does exactly that on VRC. It's amazing and honestly I should try it but life complications are my thing atm.
It is all about community if people use it seriously and the tone becomes serious then it will work well. Tinders age demographic changes with country to country and even region to region within a country so why cant this work. Physical attraction is important however and that will be a hurdle to overcome when they see each others face.
I want to thank Phia for making this video. I gave this app a chance just for fun, and managed to not only find people to talk to on it, but also have a girl i am clicking with very well, and am getting close to that i matched with on it.
VR is changing our world. And the best part is, people spend so much time preaching about how in person interaction is so great. But actually, doing online dates and things are so much better, because of the common insecurity about looks and stuff. With gaming, you are already playing with people who have a similar preference in games, you can make great friends. Online is changing our world for the better, and soon it'll be the oasis from Ready Player One
This sounds like fun, i'm doing my homework about VR right now and see for what things i can use VR, dating in real life is hard for me so, i might give this a go. Thank you for the video and have nice day.
Some people say VRchat helps with anxiety... But when I did used to attempt to go on VRchat, the moment someone says Hi to me I'd yeet my headset off and pretend I'm afk. So not sure how I could go from that to having a VR relationship. I've entered a LDR through other means since then - 5 months strong with a friend I've known for over 2 years. Our life saver? *cough*remotecontrolwoohootoys*cough*. Just imagine that, but also with your sweetheart in VRchat at the same time. I don't think it's too lewd given the challenges of maintaining a long distance relationship.
Here is my take. These vr dating apps on the surface it doesn’t bother me, the idea of meeting someone on vr. The only issue that I think dating vr brings or more accurately multiple issues is this. 1. You have no idea what they look like. So if you go and find this person and love them you meet them irl and have NO physical attraction to them the relationship will fail. Its just how humans are you cant go to someone you arent physically attracted to and have a romantic relationship where you will be happy in. I know because ive done that. I met someone online saw them and the spark just died. Im still friends with them but i just wasn’t physically attracted to them. 2. The constant hate against online dating will make being openly loving to eachother (hugs, flirty language, etc) impossible due to the constant kid presence, and or troll making fun of it. And as much as being alone all the time with your partner sounds nice to some, to some people they cant do that. Oh also on the physical appearance thing. I dont like how people are throwing away physical appearance because of the threat of being made fun of or making fun of them. Physical attraction is just natural and i think nothing is more flattering then someone telling you how good you look. And that is something you just cant get on vr. But yeah. I think dating in vr is just a step higher then e dating like thru text. But it still has the same issues with some being less prevalent, or some being more prevalent. But if people actually do find people they love then more power to them.
I like the concept of VR dating. You make some good points about the difference between online dating apps and VR. The latter allows you to focus on just personality and common interests. But I’d also like to see how they actually look as an option. Fair?
Phatmon sense is such an odd phenomenon. Like for me its not all over my body per say. If someone pokes my chest, boops my nose, or touches my arm I dont feel a thing. But for whatever reason I can feel the sides of my face. Like if someone where to caress my cheek or touch my cheek i could feel it. Most strange of all is that I can feel temperature. First time I experienced it I was talking to someone about the whole phantom sense thing and they shot fire from their finger onto me. For whatever reason I could feel the flames. Idk how or why
I'm excited to get my GF IRL and myself a headset. The problem is needing the PC. Whatever I buy, needs to be doubled because I'm getting us both the setup. But, being able to just go out in VRChat worlds after we put the little one to sleep and too tired to get ready to go out, this is so appealing to me. We can share experiences in both realities and that's amazing. Not to mention we dont really need phantom touch... which could be interesting
Personally as someone underage, I wish there was something similar to this but for minrors. I know it sounds like a wild idea and shouldn't ever be made, I wish it did exist.
its been a long time since ive hopped into vrchat, mainly because I haven't been able to afford a vr setup. its exciting to see from my pov how much things have been changing in the metaverse, and so many worlds that I have yet to see or explore. i miss it but reality has had my focus for too long
After a divorce i became completely shy and introverted guy. After 3 years of being alone i am still not really good at talking to people irl. Recently got a headset and so far i was really skeptical of social games. However I binged a lot of your vids and this one actually convinced me to try it out and get out there while staying in safety of my shell. As for that alone i Thank you.
my long distance boyfriend and I have been together for over 3 years. We haven't been able to meet in person at all yet but we're just about to try out vr to see how it goes. I'm waiting for him to get out of class rn actually, and we're gonna go, desktop mode, out in vrchat to hang out with people or find somewhere just for the two of us :)
I actually never knew you and thrill met in vr that’s so cute, that’s how me and my current gf met, was in vrchat, and now we have been living happily together for 2 years
wow that's actually really cool ngl, vr really blurs the lines when it comes to these things. I don't see myself being able to make use of this but that's just because I'm convinced that I'm cursed and will never have a regular in person relationship but vr can mitigate that feeling a bit and also help with the feeling of disconnect I feel when dating to some degree. I can imagine how it could be fun to give it a try and maybe at least make some new friends.
Usually one on one dates with someone I don't know well are usually uncomfortable for me because I don't know how to strike up a conversation at first. I usually like to get to know the person by playing games with other people
i found someone on vrchat about 2 and a half weeks ago and he made me the happiest person on the planet in till he told me he had stage 2 brain cancer and he might not live through it it hurt to hear but we stayed in touch via text and oculus chat and yesterday we got in a argument and we broke up i haven't heard from him in about 23 to 24 hours and if he does so happen to find this comment by some chance to you my love i do miss you i hope you do live through your cancer and find some to make you happy. and to you the reader i hope your day night mid-day is going awesome. and to the creator of this video thank you for making my year amazing.
Hey guys, thanks for waiting for a new video!! :') sorry it took so long again! Life is settling down, and I'm finally healthy... expect an upload every 2 weeks from here on out. The TVRS Studio in VRChat is almost done, so check out the 'Virtual VIP' tier on my Patreon if you wanna get a name plaque in the world before it's finished!! ^_^ Really excited for all the plans in store. Thanks again for supporting!!
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Is there an android app or US it just iPhone users
Take your time Phia! :D
nice phia
I'm an admin with Nevermet, I made my account on the app as a joke and ended up finding my person ♥and then was brought under Mr. Cheerio's wing :) It totally seems cringey, but through our app we have managed to cultivate some really meaningful relationships. Thanks so much for this video!
Thats so nice to hear, I can see the potential! Good luck, sounds like a great idea
I am trying to setup my account but it won't let me get passed the phone number at the very beginning. It loads and stops
@@dabois8280 yeah we had an issue with our sms system today, if you join our discord server i can help you out!
This doesn't work on android, only on ios right?
@@elementalgamer9879 it works on both
I'm glad you mentioned how hard dating on Tinder is. I honestly recommend uninstalling it and just dating irl most of the time. However VR dating seems to give a new dimension (literally) to online dating and a dating app specifically for that...might be worth trying for some out there.
Not to mention it's owned by Match Group which practically owns all dating sites, apps and such which has been alleged of predatory and deceptive trade practices in the dating market.
While I do agree that Tinder isn't that good... How do I even date irl ?
Tinder for guys is like trying to get someone's attention while 1000 other guys are yelling at her and for girls is like trying to juggle 1000 different guys at the same time.
Dating in real life or even in VR is 100% better because even if you have no chance at least you can get a minute of time and attention.
@@ernimuja6991 yup. You have a much better chance of finding a partner in person. If you can work on your people skills and approaching women irl or in VR then you're ahead of the game.
@@makiducky2305 by going to events and places where it's socially acceptable to approach people for conversation, and having social skills to get someone interested in you.
Only issue I see coming up is that people still do in fact have a preference when it comes to how their partner looks. Like yeah it's awesome you can finally get to know someone before knowing how they look, but what happens when you finally see them and you really aren't physically attracted/attractive to each other?
This.
You just don't continue? I think a lot of this is based on the assumption that VR dating isn't necessarily going to lead to IRL relationships
As a femsexual, this is a worry.
And this right here is why I would never try dating online
This is a hottake but... You're a shitty person LOL. ( Not you PonderMayne, just the people who think physical is better than other persons qualities. )
This is much better for the general socializing part of vrchat. It is kind of hard to find chill people looking to just sit back and talk or watch something.
Especially when you’re a quest user without a proper pc to hook it up to. It’s just little kids yelling the n word, ppl staring at themself in the mirror, or trolls
DEADASS
I like to goof around and all but sometimes I just want to chill
This is one topic that both excites and confuses me. VR dating in genetal is such a troubled but unique concept, and on top of that a semi-dangerous one too. VR dating in general can be a tricky one. There's so many amazing people and amazing possibilities but also can crush people.
A lot of the issues come down to moderation and restrictions.
Thanks for the coverage Phia 💙
I'd argue that VR dating is no more dangerous than online dating in general.
@@StygianIkazuchi I would argue that at it's core, it is way more dangerous mainly due to the community and how easy it is to fake your age and hide behind an avatar. The addition to physical avatars and touch being added to online dating make for way more dangerous scenarios to be able to happen . BrandonFM has a very good documentary series exploring VRChat and one of the topics covered a few times across them is dating and manipulation. Would highly reccomend it's very informative.
BUT on the plus side VR dating has so many positives. I think moderation needs to get better, but the concept is promising and amazing! Hopefully it improves as VR grows :D
@@TwoEzDragonI recently just started vrchat almost a week and I'm curious about those problems the one I see coming up a lot is minors is there anymore other then minors and crashers?
i dont know if you said genetal instead on general for the meme or if it was just a typo. lol
@@justatcat4580 typo that I didn't even notice lmao 🤣
Gonna leave it tho cos it's funny
It's the trolling in public spaces that makes it too hard have real meaningful conversations, let alone build a relationship.
Most of the relationship building in relationships happens in that private time wether IRL or virtual the dinner date lasts an hour or 2 the hanging out with a movie at her house that leads to cuddling lasts for 4. The drive to dinner in a car together all that time is private 1 on 1 time and it adds up
@@nextGenspacepainter I admire your outlook. Some like myself are just meant to be single I think. I'm sure I'm the only thing holding me back. But lack of confidence and ego has had a strangle hold on me since I was 8 lol now I'm 28. Forever alone I guess lol 😂
I feel like if you are planning to become serious then you would have dates in the private instances like irl! but thats just me
@@leoaxiom if you think you’re meant to be single, then you are. Do not destroy yourself by looking at self fulfilling prophecies
@@thedeviantguy Never, I embrace the solo life :) Life must always go on!
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My boyfriend lives in the UK, we’ve been together for 10 months and we also have known eachother for years. We got vr for this summer because we’re meeting in august and I love it so much, as with an already established relationship seeing eachothers body language and being immersed in random things together like escape rooms, fan made worlds of our favorite fandoms, meeting ppl together, it’s so fun, it definitely has enhanced our LDR
I would consider VRC an incredible tool for long distance relationships (both for wholesome and lewd purposes), or even just people who don't have a lot of time or money to go on dates otherwise. It's something I would definitely try to make use of in a relationship. But I don't know about establishing relationships where you haven't seen the other person (let alone don't have expectations to). Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have trouble picturing a relationship without the (even if unspoken) hope of eventually living together.
Blessed nuclear birb enjoyer. My work keeps me busy 99% of the time so on the days I have off, it feels disingenuous going well out of my way to find a partner that I'd barely be able to spend time with. Plus the time and energy going out and about would be very difficult. There's also the anxiety of meeting people in person first and the real danger of being alone with a stranger and rolling the dice. This provides a safe, comfortable atmosphere for people to more genuinely, passively get to know one another and understand each other's lifestyle foremost. It'd be nice if it had a friend's section, as I've noticed a lot of people using it purely to make new friends, too. It'd be nice to meet a partner through this, but being too busy to be in a relationship is a huge bummer.
I feel like this is going to have the opposite problem of normal Dating apps.
Where normal Dating apps build on physical attraction and relationships break on the personality front, VR dating apps build on personality and the associated attraction but relationships break when the physical attraction comes into play.
Even though those aspects might matter to different degrees to people they still are both important.
Disregarding that seems dangerous to me.
Oh so it is...
Erp?
It opens the door for people who aren't solely after physical attraction though. As does VR in general.
don't meet then. if you think a relationship that's not in person is inherently inferior and everything that happened on vr is worthless if you don't manage to hook up irl then like... don't waste your time.
Lots of people are Demisexual. The connection is the source of the attraction for them.
Also people can keep it virtual.
So I can say I have dated on vrchat twice (mostly with other furries) and I can say even though they never worked out, the time I had with them made me feel safe and relaxed. It's a shame they couldn't make it last but it honestly made the long distance feel less...far away
Hello, it's Mr Overanalyse here. What is your definition of 'mostly'? Because if one was a furry then that means it was equally furry and equally X, but if both were furries then it was all furries rather than mostly. Maybe one of them was half furry? One and a half furries? I guess that could work. My brain is ouchie now. Okay bye.
I can't believe we used to live without Virtual Reality for so long. I'm so glad I live in this century. VR is like the next huge leap after we had letters, radio, television and internet. Finally we can see each other, being present and experience exciting moments together in the most naturally feeling artificial 3 dimensional environment on distance. With each day spent in VRChat I learn more about myself and humanity, and the world around me. It's truly eye-opening and mind-blowing for people who don't travel much because of the health reasons or simply because they couldn't afford the expenses of travelling abroad.
Even though I am in my 50's, I am excited to becoming immersed in, and learning how to experience and share everything VR has to offer.
These are truly exciting times we live in, and it keeps getting better.
I think a new unique piece of technology seems to come out every 10-20 years. The internet didn't exist until around late 80s-90s. Even then it was in very early stages, compared to the 2000s where it really got advanced. Smart phones didn't exist until the 2000s. I don't believe VR became a common thing until fairly recently, wouldn't have heard of it at all about 5 years ago.
@@TheWackiestDemon I'm excited to see what comes next assuming we don't all get annihilated before then.
OMG Phia!! I been getting DM's all day hunny!! Thats my profile at 5:24 haha I love it! keep up the amazing work
I LOVE YOUR AVATAR everytime i was editing it made me happy haha
A pro of VR dating is the fact that someone's actual personality shines through. People have a tendency to put up an act when around certain people, but through a headset, you have a sense of anonymity. No one can really judge you for acting the way you do sometime because that's how they see you as a whole- This is who you are to them as a first impression. VR is a new life for people, and that usually means an entirely new personality. Plus, people can say and do a lot of things and simply evade consequences, either through an alt or leaving the current world, and what they do if they KNOW they can get away with it says a lot about them.
I’ve been playing World of Warcraft off and on since 2007 or 08 and you hear stories all the time about people who met in the game and wound up going on to meet IRL, marry and have entire families! It’s amazing.
In-game weddings-! 💜😭🎊
As someone who is incredibly introverted, lacks much self esteem and, at 34, having no dating experience has been hard. I’ve had no luck on the dating apps I’ve tried, but the one relationship I did have before was entirely online starting from an MMO.
This app seems fun, definitely going to try to sign up for it and see what happens. Thanks for the video!
I agree, this seems like it could be fun! Good luck!
wtf
So how it worked out? I am also introverted and it is hard for me to deal with all kinds of social interactions. I will at least consider the usage of something like a VR Dating App.
You’re 34 with an anime pfp, so people think something’s wrong immediately
@@johnsroastbeefbaconcheddar Well, you are a 3 week old roast beef sandwich. Something's probably wrong with you too, moldy.
I haven’t wanted to date, really ever, but I have to admit that looked like fun
My partner and I met in VRC and now live together. Definitely a possibility to find someone thru vr.
I think never met will do really well if they continue with their efforts, sponsorships, and ads within the game. It’s going to become the next big thing. Vr is blowing up.
You can be lucky irl at work , when you go out etc but it never means for sure you'll find someone , especially if your confidence is very low or that your appearence is not that great (sadly). VR open the door to meet someone with similar interest and let the personality speak over anything else. So i totally agree with VR dating.
I'm an awkward mess and I don't really see myself finding a partner any other way than in VR. I have a _really_ hard time finding people I connect with, even just with friendships I've always been too picky about who I'll get close to. The brief time I could spend in social VR though... taught me that I'm not an introvert like I always thought I was. I'm just an extrovert that only really vibes with other awkward people.
It's been driving me insane living with my super christian parents, it's allowed me to save up a ton of money but I literally can't even hang in voice chat in my own home because they hear everything I say and will seize any opportunity to put me down. VR Chat has been a disaster every time I try. This winter I'm finally saying to hell with it. I'm buying a nice condo near my work where I'll have a 12'x12' VR space, and I'm so excited.
Hopefully in the course of making friends, I'll meet another dork like me and we'll hit it off. But even if it never happens, at least I can try. That'll make me feel so much more hopeful for the future, and I need the social interaction desperately, all I get where I live now is text chat on games and the boomers at work and it's making me ultra depressed.
Better save up for your own place
best of luck!!!
i feel and see myself in this whole comment mirrored.. its kinda painful but yeah
Super christian parents suck. Are they weird pseudoscience people like mine are?
@@cherrymewy I like your pfp, it's really cute!
"My friends just call me Queef"
... Damn, straight-up!
While i love the idea of virtual dating apps i feel like going in VR or virtual just to date can lead to a lot of bad dating experiences. I have seen tons of online or VRChat relationships die or all apart because the two dating had a great connection but being far apart physically can lead to a lot of stressers.
While yes initially its nice to make the connection online for most we would like to meet up and eventually be together IRL, and I personally feel like a lot of people dont consider how that will happen, one person or both people will need to move and thats a big life change unless they want to spend tons of money only visiting eachother for the rest of their relationship.
So yes virtual dating can be nice, but also consider the IRL circumstances and ability to be together long term.
Also should say that I met my BF through VRChat friends and we hung out in VRC before we started dating, we now live with each other so its not all negatives but there are some that must be considered.
The thing is the exact reverse reasoning is why most irl relationships fail or lead to loveless marriages. They get too hyper with physical and sometimes cause forever mistakes that have them basically bonded together even if they don’t actually like each other at the end of the day. At least with vr you can block a person and likely never run into them again. Both got its problems but I think that true connections are the ones that prevail either way no matter if it’s online, vr, or irl
This issue isn't "VR-specific." As someone who's been doing a lot of online dating for 8 years (since I was 16) the issue of long distance has been around long before VR. "Veterans" to online dating know the trials of being far apart. The pain of no physical touch, restrictions on time, loyalty issues, and of course the difficulty of bringing two lives together. If anything, VRChat alleviates some of that pain. I met my girlfriend in VRChat and it's an ever greater experience than any other kind of online dating I've done. Since we have the sensation or perception of being there with the person that you can't get anywhere else.
@@vulgarblvck2888 Now that I think about it, long-distance has been around even longer than the internet. Just back then they had to send letters
@@sasielb8922 TRUEEEE
@@vulgarblvck2888 while i agree LDR have been around for a long time, VR is great because it brings people together more face to face from further away. However unlike things like where you would meet someone on tinder or fro mthe next state over VR dating apps are encouraging people from different countries to meet and then they get stuck because they both live in separate countries and will take YEARS to meet in person let alone eventually live together.
Im not saying its all bad, in fact my current BF and I live together now and met online through VR and friends we both know in VR. However Lots of people dont consider the troubles they will run into in my experience from seeing so many VR relationships fail
This was super wholesome (surprisingly for the topic lol), I hope these two kept dating afterwards!
Honestly this seems pretty cool, especially with the VTuber Community also getting bigger and bigger etc
I personally don't have a VR Headset tho, so I'm not sure how good it works for someone who can't have a VR Date
Same but I hope to be able to afford it one day
Depends. I've seen people with full body tracking dating just normal desktop users.
Honestly I understand the appeal, I really do. As someone who met her current boyfriend on VRChat, I completely get it of course. But I think I can also say that physical attraction is still very important, regardless of how far apart you are.
The idea that by dating on VRChat, your partner will completely ignore your IRL appearance is a little bit deluded. People still want someone they can feel physically attracted to on VRChat, and one day when they eventually want to meet up IRL- that will obviously become more important. Naturally for some people this will be more or less important than other aspects, but it still plays a role in the more sexual side of things: which can't be avoided.
For some people it seems like the perfect option, though- like if you travel a lot for work etc. However for others, I reckon you're better off just finding someone IRL. VRChat relationships are great, until you realise that you cant physically touch the person. You can't lean on them, hold them, etc- which plays a huge role in just feeling generally connected to someone.
I also think that when you have a VRChat relationship, you get used to being attracted to your partner's perfect anime avatar. But IRL, you will eventually find it hard to be attracted to real people as their appearance simply isnt perfect enough for you anymore. It's dangerous, be careful x
my soon to be husband and I met on VRchat over 2 years ago. it was almost love at first sight we were friends for a maybe like a month before we started dating. our relationship on vrchat lasted for about a year and half before we finally met in person and we would of met soon but ya know covid had to come say hello to the world but once we met for the first time it was love at first sight again. he stayed at my place for about a week and then 2 months later i would go see him in his state. fast fowarding to now we had just moved in together and we are so happy to spend the rest of our lives together. we both still talk about how we first met and how weird it now to think we use to do vrchat dates and even sleep in vr together.
I managed to meet my current boyfriend the first time I went on VRchat in Summer Solitude and even though he lives all the way in California and I'm in England, I can say for sure that VR makes me feel so close to him when we play together. It definitely helps to have a little phantom sense so I can feel when he touches my face a tiny bit, I really am glad that he is such a genuine guy and that he didn't catfish me LOL (also this is my longest relationship so far, we met almost 2 years ago on the 31st of May 2020) :)
My boyfriend in VR too, we met in furry chat and chill.
He came to visit this year back in May and I'm going to him for Valentine's 2023
I wish I had phantom sense tho, neither of us have it so we don't get to bond like others do 😂
Hey I just found your channel. For the past three years I’ve only ever watched thrill seeker for my vr content. For some reason I was drawn to this video and absolutely loved it! Jaw dropped when I found out you two are together. Keep up the great content, will absolutely be coming back for more :)
i had the same reaction
I was 2 milliseconds away from spilling my tea to my pc’s motherboard after learning that thrill and phia where together ngl
This is a direction that I feel VR will flourish within.
Thank you for sharing this with the community.
An option to select a transgender option would be a good way to prevent miscommunication and false assumption. (I'm not trans but i think the trans community would like that). Also giving the option to send IRL photos to each other after the first date would be a good idea too or IRL stats at least. Just spitballin ideas.
Better than a blanket "trans" option would be: gender (masc, fem, NB/other, won't say) and genitals (penis, vulva, other, won't say).
A person who would put "other" for gender would be trans, but have a different situation than someone with fem gender and a penis. Further, I think it is good not to distinguish in the user interface between people who have their genitalia from birth or surgery.
Given the gender exploration on VRChat, it might be good to have multiple gender fields: IRL gender, VR gender, (other context) .
@@be1tube i dont think its anyones business what is in your pants, you should never have to state that publicly
@@GemUnicornn, I understand that perspective, which is why I included the "won't say" option. However, many people on dating apps hope to find others to interact with "what is in their pants." If someone feels comfortable sharing that information, it can help them connect with others who want what they are offering.
@@be1tube I think that's more further on, tbh you shouldn't have to state that on a first date obviously when it comes to irl sex it's important cos it's apart of consent but I think it can be dangerous for trans people to state that it opens them up to alot of hate
@@be1tube Hmm, I think your idea would be better for an intimate hook up app, rather than just a dating app, but even in VR a physical hook up doesn't really matter what the other person has in their pants or under their skirt as they just personally use their own choice of adult device, and if they are both Bluetooth or internet capable, then they will work with the other person's device, no matter what kind of device it is.
It's so cute that you found your partner in VR Chat! You should definitely tell the story in a video one day. I find these things really interesting because I met my current girlfriend through Discord, I wonder if VR Dating could become a potential alternative for the "general public" in the future, if the Metaverse ever becomes real I can perfectly see this happening.
Met my girlfriend of 3 years on Tinder, in a parallel universe I would have absolutely hopped on this at the time lol.
Good coverage on the topic Phia~
I was just scrolling through Tinder thinking "Man I'd rather go on a date on VRChat with someone I meet online than go through this. I sure wish that was a thing." And here I am.
This was a good vid! Love VR couples XD
Nice one, Phia!
VRchat dating is amazing ive gone to so many unreal places with someone accross the country. Haunted theme parks, meme worlds,nightclubs and cuddle rooms
HOL UP, when I saw thrill I smiled, it is so nice I didn’t even know that thrill and TVRS were a thing at all but just started watching her and omfg. Amazing channel, keep up the good work. Ik this is a bit late but it’s still cool. And the videos she does is awesome!
I fucking lost it when they loaded up avatar as the movie to watch. I fucking love that movie.
The only issue to me is that you can make a super strong bond online but when you end up seeing eachothers physical appearance it might not be what you expected and it might not work out bcus of that. And that majorly sucks..
Like I care about what others look like irl when it comes to dating but I also struggle with what people think of mine which puts me in a limbo between them both. 🤔
My first day on VRChat I met my today boyfriend. It's about 9 months ago now, and we're coming up on our 1 year anniversary. And we're about to move in together. I'm super happy to have met him, and meeting him on the very first day was kinda crazy to say the least. We're super super super happy together and I love him so much.
From I can tell of the Google Play of the Google Play Store reviews, most people seem to complain consistently about a few primary things such as:
*Staying on the waiting list for a long time (ranges from a couple days to up to 2+ weeks).
***This seems to be the most consistent complaint***
*Unable to upload photos (during sign-up mostly but sometimes after
*Unable to start the app (even after restarts)
*Generally buggy overall
*One person said they were encouraged to get a "sister app" to be approved faster
I'm sure most of these issue will be mitigated overtime but I do want to say I am very excited for this app and it's potential. This could easily allow users outside of platforms like Discord to have another option. I can also this or something like to be the starting point to getting VR as a whole more popular, encouraging more purchases of headsets and more capable pc's. I want to see this succeed!
never thought about dating in vr... time to take my shot
Me personally I don’t think I could do this, physical attraction is important to me to a degree. I go for personality more, but I do have a physical type too. I wouldn’t want to lead them on and break their hearts if they end up not being attractive to me, that wouldn’t be fun for either party lmao
That date between the two of them was wholesome and nice to watch, and I definitely think this would be a good format for people who don’t care about appearance at all.
This was very interesting. Great vid!
Im glad you touched on the age issue, its a constant concern when interacting with people online. I could see people using the app to also just find friends in their age group. I do think vr could be a valid way to meet people without some of the risks meeting in real life can have, because of the level of presence as you said does give you a better feel of a person and what they are like. Full body certainly adds to that because you are getting more of that body language and now with face and eye tracking the lines will blur even more.
I met my boyfriend Caleb on a vrchat sever and just fell in love. The feeling of falling in love for who he was just as a person has made me so happy. He loves me despite how strange, weird, and obnoxious I consider myself but he loves me for it and I never thought I would find someone who loved me for that part of myself I sometimes hate. The obvious long distance problem is that not only am I in the United States military but he lives in Finland with a 10hr time difference. I cherish what little time we get together on vrc. Now because of him I'm investing more into my VR setup (currently just a Quest 3 :( ) and learning more about VR and PCs. I never had these things growing up so I have him to thank for the feelings I never thought I would feel on top of the excitement for my future gaming experience. My last word is simply, don't be afraid of falling in love on VR you deserve to be happy and your S.O. will feel the same. ❤
I am actually trying to get into that in the moment… but getting into it is kinda hard if your new… so it helps to get into it
I recently started playing this and didn't even know dating was a thing within vrchat. Well, you learn something new every day
Awesome video! Keep up the amazing work!~ I hope you have a great day today!!
I thought this was a wonderful video as I'm an anthropologist. I think that this a wonderful topic because we see how that in the past there was a way to date that was normal and it is always changing to what use to be in person, then to online dating like tinder. I honestly think that VRC dating and VR dating would expand the world of dating so much.
I really like this idea, it’s like literal blind dating where you only know who someone is then once you finally understand one another you can maybe remove the veil. Though given my first few times in social vr (which were terrifying since i’m used to being in the background and being left alone), it will probably be a long time before I work up the nerve to try any dating site let alone a vr one.
As someone who is Asexual and has "e-dated" before... It's honestly really nice for me because they don't rely on me to fulfill any physical needs that I wouldn't be able to IRL. I've had quite a lot of IRL relationships and just didn't enjoy it too much so being able to have the same experience minus the physical aspect is a lot less stressful.
I hope you can find someone who enjoy a relationship with you that doesnt need the physical aspects. purely emotional is the rawest form of love i think. U can be physical with anyone but theres only one person with that emotional connection
I met my now-husband on Tumblr. 😳 So in my experience, sometimes things are better when you're not desperately trying to find someone else. When it just naturally happens through constant interaction.
I met my current partner on vrc, we literally just happened to bump into each other and started talking in a drinking night. I ended up convincing him to come play chess with me, we added each other on discord and that was that we sent face pics pretty early on too and I'm on a call with him right now while he sleeps half way across the world. He's one of the best things that ever happened to me
it was a mess for me dating in vr, lots of bad stuff but I eventually found someone very nice and we are similar in a lot of ways and get along well, hardly ever fight. My biggest issue is I don't know if I will ever be able to meet them in real life or if their would be a long term future in it. Just know you will likely have to go through a lot of problems before you find someone good. Know your boundaries, if you get treated poorly cut you losses sooner rather then later, as you'll be closer to finding someone better, and give others a chance who you may not have at first, they may surprise you, 1st impressions aren't everything, better to live a happy life with someone awkward and shy in your first meeting then going with the confidant person who made a stellar first impression on you only to have years of arguing and let downs. oddly enough the person I'm with now I was very very scared to let them know what I looked like, and scared once they see what I look like they'd just think I'm ugly and move on. a friend of theirs actually ciber stalked me figured out my real name found my family found photos from families facebook accounts... and then showed my girlfriend. And.. well she thinks I'm cute.... not the best thing to hear as she hasn't said hansom or good looking or anything, but.. I guess I'll take it.. granted I don't know if she's just saying that to spare my feelings. but she hasn't dumped me after seeing what I look like 6 months later. So that's good. I really do just wish I looked better for them.
The one thing I don't like about anonymous dating is spending tons of time connecting with someone and getting close to them. Then seeing what they look like and not being attracted to them or even repulsed. :/
well if you're going out of your way to connect with someone on such a personal level only to then be 'repulsed' by what they physically look like, then that's your problem..
Well my partner and I fell for eachother before I even knew what he looked like.
I didn't care though because I'm demisexual. Personality is what I fall for.
@@RND_03 we've got specific sexual responses directly linked to eyesight. It's biology to care. The people who don't are better off, but not all of us think that way. Like anyone wouldn't choose someone beautiful or specifically attractive to them over someone they're less attracted to if given the choice.
@@artoriusveritas6779 Exactly. I think when it comes to VR dating you'd have to decide ahead of time if you wanted to keep it strictly VR or not. If you do, then irl looks won't ever come into play. I think a lot of people are dishonest in denying looks don't matter. Even in VR, would you date someone who insisted on always using a knuckles avatar? How about Deadspace mutant avatars? I think everyone has got some level of preference when it comes to visual appeal, in VR and irl.
@@stab74 this exactly!! It's not like we're not pushing our ideals in VR too
ive been dating in vr for a bit now and i recently met someone who ive really started to vibe and get close with. We just seem to click so well and im so grateful i have vrchat to because i probably would have never met him otherwise. hoping things keep progressing and i can meet him irl sometime in the future!
Perfect Match *Wink* This is really good!! Thak you Phia
HI PHIA ! love your content btw C:
Had no clue you were in a relationship with ThrillSeeker but hey its nice to see two great VR content creators together :)
Daring in vr sounds fascinating and like when ird evolved enough could even super comfy for anyone
I met my current partner in VRChat. Its a cool little story I like to think about because VR is a really unique setting for dating. We were part of one of those "VRChat families" where she "had two children" and I was the "stepfather." It was totally for jokes and for fun but that dynamic made it easy to progress to something further, naturally. We eventually started talking on discord, then followed each other on Instagram, then added each other on snap, then started voice and video calling. We were friends for a couple months and after getting to know one another and seeing who each other was irl (through various social media and video calls) we very easily moved onto dating. Though a little "strange" and unique, dating in VRChat can be absolutely beautiful, fun, and life changing if done right. I totally support this idea and hope it flourishes.
Ooo. Maybe have interest bubbles like tinder for what online activities you like. Like what games you play, movies, shopping, or even sleeping lol.
Well, the future is now I guess. I remember learning about Leonardo da Vinci and how he designed things that were ahead of his time. I wondered what the future would hold, and that more likely than not, it would be something that I would never have thought of. Then Uber Eats came along. I don't use it but something as simple as a literal food taxi blew my mind when I realized that my train of thought from years before had come full circle. Here we are again, something new, and incomprehensible for many, but oddly familiar. Food taxis after all, are not that big of a jump from pizza delivery.
I loved how this app is a lot better at trying to make sure the age range is right, yet a thing that bothers me that even if they are 18 there could be some like 50 year olds who are trying to trick them into dating them? Idk about personal opinions on that but there is still that problem. Another thing I’d point out is I myself have faced the horror of being groomed so id would never want anyone to feel that so I’d definitely recommend trying to get to know their friends a little to make sure what age they are telling you is the truth. But… don’t let that scare you from trying honestly if it’s going to be a wholesome relationship you probably don’t have to worry about the age that much but if your going further then I would recommend learning as much as u can about them from friends.
Anyways thank you for taking you time to read and have a lovely day/night
Hey look 50 yr olds need love too, umkay.
Well I don't have too much comment to say about this because, 1: I'm a Minor, 2: Dating isn't common here if its one by one person and its oftenly discouraged.
However seeing Nevermet being introduced into VR has open up LOTS of opportunities and usually towards people who are In-secure about their irl personality, looks or just irl in general. But at the same time this could be a threat or a drawback to one common problem: They'll never know what they both look like together irl. Because at some point the couples, who met in VR, HAVE to meet up in irl in order to continue being in relationship, as well as being married
But its amazing to see the VR community and market being improved with new Application being introduced into VR and closer to living in a world of VR.
I hope I get to see more of something similiar to this but for everyone AND most importantly, Safe and non-threat to the community
Very interesting video to hear about!
I'd like to ask where you live that dating isn't commonplace and I'd also like to ask why it is discouraged.
I think this is good. If people can overcome the initial cringe, they'll see that awesome relationships can be made.
The transparent raid shadow legends fake ad got me not. Idk why, but I was laughing out loud. Love your videos!
I’ve been with someone on VRC for a year and 9 months at this point and we’re still super happy and we’re going to meet in person for her birthday! 💜💜💜
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I have met some amazing people in Nevermet , Creators , club owners but also people that are in for just a day to day talk ! I even heard already some love stories via Nevermet ! and the beauty is that everyone is getting accepted ofc above 18 =) Thanks for the video Phia
Tbh the only thing that sold me on trying vrchat was that you can watch movies in it
Interesting how this topic is being brought up all the sudden... Thanks for the coverage!
VR Dating Is honestly what dating is supposed to be. You aren't supposed to care on what a person looks like. It's the personality, what they like, dislike, favorite foods and sweets, ect. So on and so forth. Nevermet does exactly that on VRC. It's amazing and honestly I should try it but life complications are my thing atm.
It is all about community if people use it seriously and the tone becomes serious then it will work well.
Tinders age demographic changes with country to country and even region to region within a country so why cant this work.
Physical attraction is important however and that will be a hurdle to overcome when they see each others face.
I want to thank Phia for making this video. I gave this app a chance just for fun, and managed to not only find people to talk to on it, but also have a girl i am clicking with very well, and am getting close to that i matched with on it.
its nice seeing a video like this since me and my partner actually met on nevermet
VR is changing our world. And the best part is, people spend so much time preaching about how in person interaction is so great. But actually, doing online dates and things are so much better, because of the common insecurity about looks and stuff. With gaming, you are already playing with people who have a similar preference in games, you can make great friends. Online is changing our world for the better, and soon it'll be the oasis from Ready Player One
This sounds like fun, i'm doing my homework about VR right now and see for what things i can use VR, dating in real life is hard for me so, i might give this a go. Thank you for the video and have nice day.
Some people say VRchat helps with anxiety... But when I did used to attempt to go on VRchat, the moment someone says Hi to me I'd yeet my headset off and pretend I'm afk. So not sure how I could go from that to having a VR relationship. I've entered a LDR through other means since then - 5 months strong with a friend I've known for over 2 years. Our life saver? *cough*remotecontrolwoohootoys*cough*. Just imagine that, but also with your sweetheart in VRchat at the same time. I don't think it's too lewd given the challenges of maintaining a long distance relationship.
Here is my take.
These vr dating apps on the surface it doesn’t bother me, the idea of meeting someone on vr. The only issue that I think dating vr brings or more accurately multiple issues is this.
1. You have no idea what they look like. So if you go and find this person and love them you meet them irl and have NO physical attraction to them the relationship will fail. Its just how humans are you cant go to someone you arent physically attracted to and have a romantic relationship where you will be happy in. I know because ive done that. I met someone online saw them and the spark just died. Im still friends with them but i just wasn’t physically attracted to them.
2. The constant hate against online dating will make being openly loving to eachother (hugs, flirty language, etc) impossible due to the constant kid presence, and or troll making fun of it. And as much as being alone all the time with your partner sounds nice to some, to some people they cant do that.
Oh also on the physical appearance thing. I dont like how people are throwing away physical appearance because of the threat of being made fun of or making fun of them. Physical attraction is just natural and i think nothing is more flattering then someone telling you how good you look. And that is something you just cant get on vr.
But yeah. I think dating in vr is just a step higher then e dating like thru text. But it still has the same issues with some being less prevalent, or some being more prevalent. But if people actually do find people they love then more power to them.
I wish there was something like this but for friends.. Not dating.
I like the concept of VR dating. You make some good points about the difference between online dating apps and VR. The latter allows you to focus on just personality and common interests. But I’d also like to see how they actually look as an option. Fair?
Phatmon sense is such an odd phenomenon. Like for me its not all over my body per say. If someone pokes my chest, boops my nose, or touches my arm I dont feel a thing. But for whatever reason I can feel the sides of my face. Like if someone where to caress my cheek or touch my cheek i could feel it. Most strange of all is that I can feel temperature. First time I experienced it I was talking to someone about the whole phantom sense thing and they shot fire from their finger onto me. For whatever reason I could feel the flames. Idk how or why
Phia! I met someone in the waiting room in discord lol before I even got through into the app lol thanks so much
I'm excited to get my GF IRL and myself a headset. The problem is needing the PC. Whatever I buy, needs to be doubled because I'm getting us both the setup. But, being able to just go out in VRChat worlds after we put the little one to sleep and too tired to get ready to go out, this is so appealing to me. We can share experiences in both realities and that's amazing. Not to mention we dont really need phantom touch... which could be interesting
Thanks for the tip about Nevermet, I’ve been interested in something like this.
Personally as someone underage, I wish there was something similar to this but for minrors. I know it sounds like a wild idea and shouldn't ever be made, I wish it did exist.
its been a long time since ive hopped into vrchat, mainly because I haven't been able to afford a vr setup. its exciting to see from my pov how much things have been changing in the metaverse, and so many worlds that I have yet to see or explore. i miss it but reality has had my focus for too long
After a divorce i became completely shy and introverted guy. After 3 years of being alone i am still not really good at talking to people irl. Recently got a headset and so far i was really skeptical of social games. However I binged a lot of your vids and this one actually convinced me to try it out and get out there while staying in safety of my shell. As for that alone i Thank you.
So how'd it go?!
my long distance boyfriend and I have been together for over 3 years. We haven't been able to meet in person at all yet but we're just about to try out vr to see how it goes. I'm waiting for him to get out of class rn actually, and we're gonna go, desktop mode, out in vrchat to hang out with people or find somewhere just for the two of us :)
i had absolutely no idea you were dating Thrillseeker that so cool!
Ngl the textures and performance of this video really just makes me want to keep upgrading my gear lol
That was adorable. I'm so happy that things like this are actually happening! What a cute meet up
what i think is, that vr dating will probably be the next new tinder in the "real" world.
I actually never knew you and thrill met in vr that’s so cute, that’s how me and my current gf met, was in vrchat, and now we have been living happily together for 2 years
I just realize at 5:52 one of my public avatars was shown. Didnt expect that
wow that's actually really cool ngl, vr really blurs the lines when it comes to these things. I don't see myself being able to make use of this but that's just because I'm convinced that I'm cursed and will never have a regular in person relationship but vr can mitigate that feeling a bit and also help with the feeling of disconnect I feel when dating to some degree. I can imagine how it could be fun to give it a try and maybe at least make some new friends.
Usually one on one dates with someone I don't know well are usually uncomfortable for me because I don't know how to strike up a conversation at first. I usually like to get to know the person by playing games with other people
i found someone on vrchat about 2 and a half weeks ago and he made me the happiest person on the planet in till he told me he had stage 2 brain cancer and he might not live through it it hurt to hear but we stayed in touch via text and oculus chat and yesterday we got in a argument and we broke up i haven't heard from him in about 23 to 24 hours and if he does so happen to find this comment by some chance to you my love i do miss you i hope you do live through your cancer and find some to make you happy. and to you the reader i hope your day night mid-day is going awesome. and to the creator of this video thank you for making my year amazing.