I definitely learned a lot more about the game and the video's nods to the various elements. Thinks! I'm a little surprised you didn't comment much at all about the actual scenes, as I hoped you would. A fair amount was filmed on-location at an authentic Victorian establishment (though some electrification upgrades had to be digitally removed in post-production). Stupes does include credits in their video description; as I recall many of Cassie's patrons were other TH-cam creators that Stupes knows
ah sorry i was really distracted by the references in this one, there are a ton of hidden things. side note* in the neath they actually had electricity at some point and space travel by 1890ish which was accomplished via going to space by train somehow. I cant remember all the details this game is crazy.
This song has some of my favourite lines Stupes has ever written: "In a ditch and out the picture, London's withering in walls which are far too steep a pitch to climb but steep just makes the tealeaf richer." Not just talking about London down in its hole, but also about the classist walls that make it impossible for those at the bottom to climb their way up to a better position (classic Stupes stuff), AND ALSO: "tealeaf" is Cockney slang for "thief", so what Bob is _also_ saying is that "steep times makes thieves richer." "Now the Masters are in charge, it's rather dark the things they've barred, but every market turns to black as soon as all the lights are off." Obviously talking about the darkness down in London, but also talking both about how, once the lights are off, the markets turn into black markets and the "dark" things the Masters have prohibited start being sold off, as well as alluding to the expression "being in the black", as opposed to "being in the red": When businesses are doing well, they can afford the back ink to record their profits. When businesses are doing poorly, on the other hand, well, guess you'll have to write down your losses in red. "If you came for documenting, tick whatever box you like, you've got Pages full of question but I left my lot behind", first of all both playing on Cassie not being very keen on sharing all too much about themselves but also alluding to them being gender fluid, hence "check whatever box you like", but also note the capital letter on the word "Pages" because we're not just talking about the pages of the census poll the pov character is running, but also their boss who's quite the inquisitive fellow. (Also, yes, Stupes is _so_ gender in the role of Cassie. Like, omg are they swoontastic. Pure magic.) I like how Byron's verse can basically be summed up "Okay, so let me get this straight: You have all fallen down here, you are quite literally neighbours with Hell, men with the faces of squid walk the streets, a race of alien bat merchants run your show, and yet your primary concern is, of all things, _finding love?_ Uhm, excuse me but ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS?!" (I also like how Byron has a bee brooch on his chest. _Really_ not caring very much for being subtle, is he?) Aaand Pages' verse is, of course, just an amazing collection of portmanteaus and subtle lore references that all together sound pretty much like a forgotten verse out of Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky.
Thanks for breaking down the lyrics much further. This breakdown actually helps a lot. I'm still finding a good middle ground and trying to analyze lyrics which is not quite in my initial skill set. When i started this channel it was with the initial intention of doing reactions to only comedy skits. But then I found nerdcore, so I'm way out of my comfort zone. But everyone is being very helpful so thanks for the very detailed help. *"(I also like how Byron has a bee brooch on his chest. Really not caring very much for being subtle, is he?)"* Darn i missed that i saw the correspondence but i didn't see the be until you mentioned it.
@@Jeff2Squared M'yeah, but I forgot to note some of the more obvious plays on words, like how the "In a ditch and out the picture, London's withering in walls which are far too steep a pitch to climb but steep just makes the tea-leaf richer" line also puns "steep" in the sense of "steep slopes" with "steep" in the sense of "letting your tea-leaves steep in the water to give the tea a richer flavour"... Maybe not necessary to point out since, well, it basically is the most obvious play on words there, being more-or-less spelled out explicitly, but the fact that the line has _four_ layers is still impressive. Different reactors specialize in different things: Insane Ian does a lot of lyrical analysis (though even he admits to being left dumbfounded when it comes to analysing Stupes' lyrics). You, on the other hand, did pretty well with the lore analysis thanks to your familiarity with Fallen London. And considering that not a lot of people are very familiar with Fallen London's lore, I think you did an important contribution here. ^^
*"Different reactors specialize in different things: "* That's true, I'm far better versed in the visuals, Fallen London was a bit different since i also know a decent chunk of lore. Upside the majority of other reactors can focus on the lyrics and skip the majority of the visuals. Me personally i want to try and aim for a bit of a middle ground. Stupendiumn videos are an easy entry point for this, since reacting to many other nerdcore artists who are basically creating AMV's its all gonna be about the lyrics.
“… out of Lewis Carroll’s Jabberwocky” or out of Monty Python’s Jabberwocky… Sorry, I had to, seeing who was commenting 😉. But yes, the whole Bob’s verse is a lyrical fanfare, and I’m not even going to start with Cassie’s lines. Pure bliss to listen to!
lol, While I'm somewhat tone deaf which makes reacting to music videos a challenge I grew up working on lighting and set design. Maybe you just haven't seen anything good like "Evil Dead the Musical" or "Avenue Q", "Sweeny Todd", "Texas Chainsaw musical".
I think you might be right that that's harry teller's soul is in the bottle. Apparently Byron brimstone " Just watches folks narry a word" but Harry somehow knows his name.
so, cassie's line about "the high and mighty in the sky" isn't just religious. remember the liberation of night. it comes, ticking ever forward. the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun..... for those who don't know what that means, the stars are alive and their light enforces laws of reality. neath-dwellers cannot last long on the surface because underground, they break the laws of the stars constantly, and the stars don't like that one bit. "the liberation of night" is a potential future where humanity kills the stars, "the sun" refers to a machine built to replace them in the sunless sea and sunless skies timeline.
Dawn machine and Liberation are not exactly the same, They have the same goal at first, but when the judgements died from the Liberation, the Dawn Machine is another step further than liberation, grasping the judgements domains, hence, a NEW SEQUENCE!
20:31 Peligin is the color of monstrosity. Irrigo is… I forget what Irrigo is, what were we talking about again? Cosmogone is the color of the Parabolan sun, essentially pseudo-sunlight, Gant is the color you get when you remove black from darkness. Viric is the color of dreams and sleep. Violant is sort of the color of constancy and attraction; it does not change, and generally is not effected by the Treacheries. Apocyan is the color of the Zee.
also as I understand the map situation the signs were taken and maps banned cause the masters are messing with the layout of the city so it can slide down easier
Wonderful video! I'm honestly surprised though that you didn't point out the connection between the Devils and bees between all the other lore - not only does Byron Brimstone have a bee-shaped brooch on his left breast, but there's the line, "chance your wholesome little doldrum might just serve a spot of buzz?" Devils are the creators of Prisoner's Honey, and there are some other fun little bee-related lore things too. And good on you for catching the crab claw - I've seen this music video tons of times and missed that!
Returning to the surface doesn't have anything to do with souls. If you die and revive in the Neath surface sunlight will register you as dead and kill you. But even just passively being in the Neath too long will have the weirdness seep into you enough that you can't go back without being killed by the sun.
You can't forget the sheer amount of Things that call the Unterzee a home, also. Any coal not found in the Hinterlands would also need to navigate past the Raiders of the Mourn, the various Beasts of the Zee, the Drownies AND make it through Mr Fires taxing.
Electricity's more of the Khanate's thing, in the end. London runs on gas while the remains of the Fourth have turned the humble lightbulb into vessels that can even cast a hint of the Light of Law.
Oh right, quickly thinking back a bit, the comment about every market turning black might also count, tangentially, as a reference to the Liberation of Night.
Hell is West of London, through the Hinterlands. East is where reality fails, where laws such as motion and distance carry nigh zero might and the air echoes with Salt, speaking of those rare few Travellers Returning.
They're not inks, rather they're colours that can only really exist where the Light of Judgements doesn't shine. Pelegin, the colour that is without any light. The colour of the deepest Zee, the lands of the dead and of the creatures of Neathy water. Violant, the colour of Remembering. Of troublesome yet neccessary connections and blood shed in a spired place. Apocyan, the colour of Memory, Coral and the waves of the Zee. Viric, the colour of Shallow Sleep. A typical mark of the Fingerkings. Cosmogone, the colour of Remembered Suns. Irrigo, the colour of Forgetting. The unremembered colour, the light of absence. It is through this the treacheries of the Neath are even possible. And Gant, the colour that is left when all others are eaten. Of Avid Horizons and the deaths of Zee beasts.
Gonna mention your Latin here at the beginning. "Avis" isn't visual, but rather "Bird". You're thinking of variations off "Video", which conveniently is also a word used in English. It's something to do with cosmic birds and hearing music. Maybe like "hear the space bird"? I'm not sure. Also, not used to seeing reactors familiar with the setting. I tend to be one of the people filling people in. It's nice to see. Refreshing, even. I will say that Hell is to the West of London. The Unterzee is to the East. ;) I'm going to guess also that you haven't played Mask of the Rose. You ought to. It covers the days after the Fall, before the city has managed to reorganize its resources and before it's received any resources (like food) from up above. Also before they've discovered that dead people don't stay dead in the Neath. I feel bad for that baby mentioned in the song that was found in the spider's web. We all know what the spiders in the Neath are after and it isn't the baby's life.
*"Gonna mention your Latin here at the beginning. "Avis" isn't visual, but rather "Bird". "* Lol fantastic thanks for the fix lol, definitely got my languages wrong then. I was way off lol. *"I will say that Hell is to the West of London. The Unterzee is to the East. ;)"* Darn so close *"'I'm going to guess also that you haven't played Mask of the Rose."* I haven't yet you are correct. I'll look into it when i have some free time. *"I feel bad for that baby mentioned in the song that was found in the spider's web."* Ya this game is far darker than most may think off hand.
@uared963 Another thing you were wrong about was the the seventh city is Berlin, not moscow. While there is the thing about Haley's comet, that was in universe speculation, by a character that while they have a level of connection to the masters, is not one of the masters, while the 7th city is explicitly confirmed in irem to be berlin Edit: Also you are wrong about death in multiple ways. Old age is explicitly one of the things that may kill you for real in the neath. It's also not just the lack of the judgements light that makes death not final, while that allows a lack of finality, death would still be final if it wasn't for the mountain of light's light.
@@gamesandglory1648 they said it was either going to be Moscow or just as easily berlin meaning we are both wrong and right lol. Now to b fair to you i haven't kept as up to date in that last few years so perhaps that had changed?
@@gamesandglory1648 ya i got nothing on death, thanks for letting me know i need to get back into the game. I thought it was only dismemberment that was permanent
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"Hunger does a number down in London
Watch you'll get a darker taste instead"
Mr Eaten reference??? If so I know which number they mean ehehe
oh that's a good point.
All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
I definitely learned a lot more about the game and the video's nods to the various elements. Thinks!
I'm a little surprised you didn't comment much at all about the actual scenes, as I hoped you would. A fair amount was filmed on-location at an authentic Victorian establishment (though some electrification upgrades had to be digitally removed in post-production). Stupes does include credits in their video description; as I recall many of Cassie's patrons were other TH-cam creators that Stupes knows
ah sorry i was really distracted by the references in this one, there are a ton of hidden things.
side note* in the neath they actually had electricity at some point and space travel by 1890ish which was accomplished via going to space by train somehow. I cant remember all the details this game is crazy.
The person who Robert was offering a necklace was Stupe’s actual partner, so it’s kind of a double joke to be rejected by them.
@@stompingliger thats funny
I alway thought the high and mighty in the Sky might be refering to the Judgements/Stars, that can't see below.
This song has some of my favourite lines Stupes has ever written: "In a ditch and out the picture, London's withering in walls which are far too steep a pitch to climb but steep just makes the tealeaf richer." Not just talking about London down in its hole, but also about the classist walls that make it impossible for those at the bottom to climb their way up to a better position (classic Stupes stuff), AND ALSO: "tealeaf" is Cockney slang for "thief", so what Bob is _also_ saying is that "steep times makes thieves richer."
"Now the Masters are in charge, it's rather dark the things they've barred, but every market turns to black as soon as all the lights are off." Obviously talking about the darkness down in London, but also talking both about how, once the lights are off, the markets turn into black markets and the "dark" things the Masters have prohibited start being sold off, as well as alluding to the expression "being in the black", as opposed to "being in the red": When businesses are doing well, they can afford the back ink to record their profits. When businesses are doing poorly, on the other hand, well, guess you'll have to write down your losses in red.
"If you came for documenting, tick whatever box you like, you've got Pages full of question but I left my lot behind", first of all both playing on Cassie not being very keen on sharing all too much about themselves but also alluding to them being gender fluid, hence "check whatever box you like", but also note the capital letter on the word "Pages" because we're not just talking about the pages of the census poll the pov character is running, but also their boss who's quite the inquisitive fellow.
(Also, yes, Stupes is _so_ gender in the role of Cassie. Like, omg are they swoontastic. Pure magic.)
I like how Byron's verse can basically be summed up "Okay, so let me get this straight: You have all fallen down here, you are quite literally neighbours with Hell, men with the faces of squid walk the streets, a race of alien bat merchants run your show, and yet your primary concern is, of all things, _finding love?_ Uhm, excuse me but ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS?!"
(I also like how Byron has a bee brooch on his chest. _Really_ not caring very much for being subtle, is he?)
Aaand Pages' verse is, of course, just an amazing collection of portmanteaus and subtle lore references that all together sound pretty much like a forgotten verse out of Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky.
Thanks for breaking down the lyrics much further. This breakdown actually helps a lot. I'm still finding a good middle ground and trying to analyze lyrics which is not quite in my initial skill set. When i started this channel it was with the initial intention of doing reactions to only comedy skits. But then I found nerdcore, so I'm way out of my comfort zone. But everyone is being very helpful so thanks for the very detailed help.
*"(I also like how Byron has a bee brooch on his chest. Really not caring very much for being subtle, is he?)"*
Darn i missed that i saw the correspondence but i didn't see the be until you mentioned it.
@@Jeff2Squared M'yeah, but I forgot to note some of the more obvious plays on words, like how the "In a ditch and out the picture, London's withering in walls which are far too steep a pitch to climb but steep just makes the tea-leaf richer" line also puns "steep" in the sense of "steep slopes" with "steep" in the sense of "letting your tea-leaves steep in the water to give the tea a richer flavour"... Maybe not necessary to point out since, well, it basically is the most obvious play on words there, being more-or-less spelled out explicitly, but the fact that the line has _four_ layers is still impressive.
Different reactors specialize in different things: Insane Ian does a lot of lyrical analysis (though even he admits to being left dumbfounded when it comes to analysing Stupes' lyrics). You, on the other hand, did pretty well with the lore analysis thanks to your familiarity with Fallen London. And considering that not a lot of people are very familiar with Fallen London's lore, I think you did an important contribution here. ^^
*"Different reactors specialize in different things: "*
That's true, I'm far better versed in the visuals, Fallen London was a bit different since i also know a decent chunk of lore. Upside the majority of other reactors can focus on the lyrics and skip the majority of the visuals. Me personally i want to try and aim for a bit of a middle ground. Stupendiumn videos are an easy entry point for this, since reacting to many other nerdcore artists who are basically creating AMV's its all gonna be about the lyrics.
“… out of Lewis Carroll’s Jabberwocky” or out of Monty Python’s Jabberwocky… Sorry, I had to, seeing who was commenting 😉. But yes, the whole Bob’s verse is a lyrical fanfare, and I’m not even going to start with Cassie’s lines. Pure bliss to listen to!
I DESPISE musicals with a fiery passion, but if Stupes ever released a full on musical I would pay anything to watch it. This is a masterpiece.
lol, While I'm somewhat tone deaf which makes reacting to music videos a challenge I grew up working on lighting and set design. Maybe you just haven't seen anything good like "Evil Dead the Musical" or "Avenue Q", "Sweeny Todd", "Texas Chainsaw musical".
TIL not only is the sun a deadly lazer but it's also no longer a virgin. thank you malevolent space crab god.
Nice one ❤❤❤
There is so much to this song, musical, play, epic performance lol. Kerp up the good work.
3:09 They never go stale because they are already basically BRICKS.
They are essentially hardtack^2
An amazing video indeed. I learned alot!!!
It’s fabulous that Cassie became an actual character in the game.
wait in FL proper or in mask of the rose?
@@rainbowtvz Mask, I think.
@@rainbowtvz In Fallen London Proper
I love musical shows a lot
"sausage about which no one complains"
I think you might be right that that's harry teller's soul is in the bottle. Apparently Byron brimstone
" Just watches folks narry a word" but Harry somehow knows his name.
possibly, apparently a lot of my information was out of date since i missed the last 2 expansions and things have changed.
So good♥️💯 really enjoyed ❤
so, cassie's line about "the high and mighty in the sky" isn't just religious.
remember the liberation of night. it comes, ticking ever forward. the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun.....
for those who don't know what that means, the stars are alive and their light enforces laws of reality. neath-dwellers cannot last long on the surface because underground, they break the laws of the stars constantly, and the stars don't like that one bit. "the liberation of night" is a potential future where humanity kills the stars, "the sun" refers to a machine built to replace them in the sunless sea and sunless skies timeline.
Dawn machine and Liberation are not exactly the same, They have the same goal at first, but when the judgements died from the Liberation, the Dawn Machine is another step further than liberation, grasping the judgements domains, hence, a NEW SEQUENCE!
20:31 Peligin is the color of monstrosity. Irrigo is… I forget what Irrigo is, what were we talking about again? Cosmogone is the color of the Parabolan sun, essentially pseudo-sunlight, Gant is the color you get when you remove black from darkness. Viric is the color of dreams and sleep. Violant is sort of the color of constancy and attraction; it does not change, and generally is not effected by the Treacheries. Apocyan is the color of the Zee.
never goes stale and doesn't taste very good average british biscuit :)
also as I understand the map situation the signs were taken and maps banned cause the masters are messing with the layout of the city so it can slide down easier
"Musicam audi avis cosmicae" is "listen to the music of the cosmic bird"
ya i think someone emailed that to me a month ago lol the sent me a lore dump.
Future cities are in Flux, but sixth is leaning towards Paris and my character's visions of a potential future involve the seventh being Berlin.
Wonderful video! I'm honestly surprised though that you didn't point out the connection between the Devils and bees between all the other lore - not only does Byron Brimstone have a bee-shaped brooch on his left breast, but there's the line, "chance your wholesome little doldrum might just serve a spot of buzz?"
Devils are the creators of Prisoner's Honey, and there are some other fun little bee-related lore things too.
And good on you for catching the crab claw - I've seen this music video tons of times and missed that!
Ya I missed a ton of stuff and some was out dated Lol. I think I received like 4 emails not just all the comments.
6:56 Yep. I believe it’s worth around 400 echoes? Not sure. My soul is stained, so the Devils will not accept it.
Okay so I was an order of magnitude off.
Returning to the surface doesn't have anything to do with souls. If you die and revive in the Neath surface sunlight will register you as dead and kill you. But even just passively being in the Neath too long will have the weirdness seep into you enough that you can't go back without being killed by the sun.
ya i played the game before a bunch of the recent updates and in turn remembered some things wrong.
Superb
Just a quick comment, even before getting into the reaction proper, but IIRC going off of A Neon Future in Irem's Loom the Seventh City is Berlin.
You can't forget the sheer amount of Things that call the Unterzee a home, also. Any coal not found in the Hinterlands would also need to navigate past the Raiders of the Mourn, the various Beasts of the Zee, the Drownies AND make it through Mr Fires taxing.
Electricity's more of the Khanate's thing, in the end. London runs on gas while the remains of the Fourth have turned the humble lightbulb into vessels that can even cast a hint of the Light of Law.
Oh right, quickly thinking back a bit, the comment about every market turning black might also count, tangentially, as a reference to the Liberation of Night.
Hell is West of London, through the Hinterlands.
East is where reality fails, where laws such as motion and distance carry nigh zero might and the air echoes with Salt, speaking of those rare few Travellers Returning.
They're not inks, rather they're colours that can only really exist where the Light of Judgements doesn't shine.
Pelegin, the colour that is without any light. The colour of the deepest Zee, the lands of the dead and of the creatures of Neathy water.
Violant, the colour of Remembering. Of troublesome yet neccessary connections and blood shed in a spired place.
Apocyan, the colour of Memory, Coral and the waves of the Zee.
Viric, the colour of Shallow Sleep. A typical mark of the Fingerkings.
Cosmogone, the colour of Remembered Suns.
Irrigo, the colour of Forgetting. The unremembered colour, the light of absence. It is through this the treacheries of the Neath are even possible.
And Gant, the colour that is left when all others are eaten. Of Avid Horizons and the deaths of Zee beasts.
Gonna mention your Latin here at the beginning. "Avis" isn't visual, but rather "Bird". You're thinking of variations off "Video", which conveniently is also a word used in English. It's something to do with cosmic birds and hearing music. Maybe like "hear the space bird"? I'm not sure.
Also, not used to seeing reactors familiar with the setting. I tend to be one of the people filling people in. It's nice to see. Refreshing, even.
I will say that Hell is to the West of London. The Unterzee is to the East. ;)
I'm going to guess also that you haven't played Mask of the Rose. You ought to. It covers the days after the Fall, before the city has managed to reorganize its resources and before it's received any resources (like food) from up above. Also before they've discovered that dead people don't stay dead in the Neath.
I feel bad for that baby mentioned in the song that was found in the spider's web. We all know what the spiders in the Neath are after and it isn't the baby's life.
*"Gonna mention your Latin here at the beginning. "Avis" isn't visual, but rather "Bird". "*
Lol fantastic thanks for the fix lol, definitely got my languages wrong then. I was way off lol.
*"I will say that Hell is to the West of London. The Unterzee is to the East. ;)"*
Darn so close
*"'I'm going to guess also that you haven't played Mask of the Rose."*
I haven't yet you are correct. I'll look into it when i have some free time.
*"I feel bad for that baby mentioned in the song that was found in the spider's web."*
Ya this game is far darker than most may think off hand.
@uared963 Another thing you were wrong about was the the seventh city is Berlin, not moscow. While there is the thing about Haley's comet, that was in universe speculation, by a character that while they have a level of connection to the masters, is not one of the masters, while the 7th city is explicitly confirmed in irem to be berlin
Edit: Also you are wrong about death in multiple ways. Old age is explicitly one of the things that may kill you for real in the neath. It's also not just the lack of the judgements light that makes death not final, while that allows a lack of finality, death would still be final if it wasn't for the mountain of light's light.
@@gamesandglory1648 they said it was either going to be Moscow or just as easily berlin meaning we are both wrong and right lol. Now to b fair to you i haven't kept as up to date in that last few years so perhaps that had changed?
@@gamesandglory1648 ya i got nothing on death, thanks for letting me know i need to get back into the game. I thought it was only dismemberment that was permanent
@@Jeff2Squared Irem is in the last 2 years or so, yeah.
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