I drove one, a 2000, and loved it. I bought it used in about 2010 with 80k miles and drove it five years till it had almost 200k miles. Mine was an automatic so it was not modded or tuned. It was a great car.
I've had my 2005 Cooper S for almost 10 years now. It is such a hoot to drive and I still love it! My friend has an Abarth and Tyler is so right about the noise they make, it is fantastic.
I've had multiple Brono IIs and never came close to rolling one even once coming up to a T in the road and loosing my brakes I made the turn. No I wasn't driving slow. It is the same with the Jeep CJs or the Suzuki Samurai. If you drive them like you are supposed too they don't tip. Mostly the tipping controversy came when they attacked the Samarai and everyone pointed out that the others could tip as well. Nowhere was there a discussion of if you drive them following manufacturers direction it's less of a problem. I would say they are on the list because there are few examples left that haven't rusted out or been destroyed offroading. The large Broncos are going up as well. It's not likely the Explorer will raise in the next 10 years.
I almost bought a P1800 in the mid-90s, but ended up with a Karmann Ghia. It was gorgeous, but slow. It was also easy to work on. I don’t regret owning the Ghia, but I’d love to own the P1800.
My neighbor still has all original 1972 white with black interior P1800 that he bought new while in college! He always maintained it & babied it & it has been garaged since 1998 with it just being driven about once every 6 months, only has 55,000 miles on it
Just love it when April likes a list and hoovies loose his marbles and just acts like grumpy child, the joy of April being right with her choices is priceless.
Lt. Colonel Samantha Carter drove a P1800 in Stargate SG-1. If memory serves, it was Amanda Tapping's actual car, so production decided it was easier to just use her personal vehicle, and it fit the character perfectly. I've always loved that design.
In a Hoovie-esq move I bought a non-running but physically nice Delorean in 2004 for $11K. I then spent $25K in parts and two years doing a nut-and-bolt restoration along with upgrading everything that could be upgraded to it. The economic downturn of 2008 was really tough on the company where I worked so in 2010 I sold it for $25K. The new owner has featured it at the local World-of Wheels many times since then and it's a crowd favorite. It would easily be on the high end of Hagerty's estimate now. Sigh. On the upside, I really didn't like the way it drove.
I had the same reaction when he said "Supermodel"! Unless he just meant that she's super at being a model? Not to throw shade, but one of the criteria for being a 'Supermodel' is that people in the General Public would recognize you or your name.
@@StreetPreacherr I think he is just buttering up his girlfriend, he says that all the time. I hadn't heard of her either before she got together with Hoovie.
P1800 is next level amazing. The biggest issue is that most of them were weird D-jet injection. If you can find a mechanic under 60 years old that understands the all white wire D-jet, you’ve won the lottery, but also lost, because parts prices. The best bet with these cars is carb it, or resto mod in a modern injection system.
The Ferrari 400 had the GM Turbo 400 (hence the name…) which is one of the best automatics ever made. And 426 hemis from the 60’s were never considered “fragile”. They were warrantied for 12,000 or one year, which ever came first, like every other car in the 1960’s..
I had a 98 Honda Prelude, 5 Speed Manual, White Diamond Pearl color. That car was my first partner in crime - the VTEC transition was like a switch and oh the sound it made. It left me due to a baby seat. I think it is a worthwhile addition to Hagerty’s list.
My daughter dreamed of a Bronco 1 several years ago when they were around $60k for a really good one. She "settled" for a Isuzu Trooper II diesel. She LOVES it. Her taste is the 2 box look.
I had a srt8 magnum, drove it for almost 10 years and 170kmiles super reliable till the very end when all the door seals failed and some electronic engine problem that no shop I took it to could figure out, loved it and aprils rite, best noise ever. I also had an SLP loudmouth exhaust on it
There's a place in Houston TX that not only restores original DeLoreans , but will build new replica DeLoreans from the ground up . Also sells parts for them too .
Back in the 80s, and probably into the 90s, most new cars only had a one year warranty. My mother bought a 1980 Ford mustang with a 4-cylinder turbo, and it was a quick little car, but the turbo seized 2 weeks after the 1 year warranty expired and Ford refused to help. She traded it in on a Datsun 210. Boring, but reliable.
My neighbor has the white O.J / Al Cowlings Bronco. I keep telling him he needs to restore it and put an O.J wrap/ picture in the back window and take it to Barret -Jackson and auction it for a ton of money.
I agree with the Volvo. Don't forget about the wagon version. Simon Templar (initials S.T., hence the St.) eventually moved up to a Jaguar XJ-S, which I also love.
Hoovie, I’m sorry that your Hemi experience hasn’t gone super well, but to call the modern Hemi engine unreliable is completely foolish. Sure, it can fail when abused by someone who doesn’t maintain their vehicle. But there are hundreds of thousands still on the road today with well over 100,000 miles. You commonly find running examples on sale sites with 200,000 plus miles. It will only drop the valves if overheated. The Hemi tick is the biggest known flaw, but it only happens if you idle the engine a lot, and it can be remedied if you replace the stock oil pump with a high flow version that is made and sold by Melling.
the 1997 and 1998 honda prelude 2.0 was a car i wanted back in the day and I wished I kept my '98 honda prelude which I used as my personal parts go getter car back in early 2k's for my car audio & performance shop man after hearing you say the numbers and the best years for them makes me mad I didn't keep it i picked it up from my friends dealership some older lady owned it for 2 years put only 7500 or 8500 miles on it and traded it in and I got it for $500 over dealership trade in value back in 2000.. you forgot to mention it had 4WS which made it perfect for a lil zip zip car to zip around town in took lil effort on the freeway to zip in n out of lanes with it also made for my shops perfect demo vehicle which I put a killer audio system in it along with all the go fast parts on it
The Bronco 2’s are really hard to find in great original condition…. All were either modified for off-road toys or just used up, rusted and disposed of…
They are not saying they are worth a lot now, they are saying the are still somewhat affordable now but are expected to go up in the future, so you should buy them NOW.
Yeah, the show was "before my time" as they say, but it's been re-run regularly throughout the decades and you can watch it right now if you wish and it holds up well! So well over 1% Hoovie!
I want to know where they got the exhaust sound for the Back to the Future DeLorean during the one cold start. That sounded fantastic. Probably dubbed in?
Eventually every make/model of car will be on the bull market. Even the Vega/Pinto/Gremlin/Omni....Pontiac Boneville/Ford LTD/Chrysler New Yorker/AMC Matador.
The Z car shown for the ZX series is the wrong era. You're showing a 75-78 series car. The 240Z, 69-73 -> 260Z, 74 -> 280Z, 75-78 were all the same basic shape. The big design change was in 79 which was also the introduction of the Nissan name in the US. One of the rarer ones would be the 80 Anniversary edition, but is still fairly easy to come by.
Hoover is a moron. DMC-12 has a steel frame designed by Lotus. It’s a fun car, a similar driving experience to the 280ZX mentioned earlier in the video. Perhaps he’s jealous that a DeLorean will get more driving attention than anything in his fleet.
A Bugatti is cool but I don’t want to sacrifice hoovie to see another one on YT there’s plenty of content already, I’d rather see hoovie buy 1000 hoopties
I can't remember which TH-camr swapped out the intake manifolds and everything above on a Bronco II and it was way better. I think it might have been a Holly kit?
Can I suggest you apply a wrap on you table in your garage loft? It looks terrible on camera. Can you also turn the table so it incorporates your excellent collection of cars in the background? Also please raise the two centre cars up and fill in the gaps with your other cars? Occasionally focus on one or another of the cars on your lifts for a quick update and feeling about it? Otherwise you both look great and come across pretty well. April should focus on female car issues that are not being catered for and you for the male perspective. Your historical contributions are appreciated by enthusiasts everywhere. Good luck from Ireland.😁👍
The Opel GT was way better than the Volvo. The Issue with the Bronco II like the S10 Blazer is besides the narrow wheelbase that caused them to roll over in a sharp turn like the CJ5 is they were stupid and did not put a small block in it. I have seen videos of people talking about whether Honda should bring back the 2000 or why they could never make that car again. They talk about how it could never be the basic sports car it was and that it would not sell but then you look at the Miata and say, "No." I think Honda should make the 2000 again as basic sports car in competition to the Miata
The datsun weren't cool cars they were slow and unreliable. The 6.1 hemi was the best and the most reliable hoovie doesn't know what he's talking about.
No one is accepting the fact that FSD will destroy the used car market. A massive crash in value is coming where few ‘collector cars’ will retain their value. Worse, the cost to maintain these cars is increasingly becoming prohibitively expensive.
The Deloreans selling for 6 figures this year have been super low miles (3500 and under); these are collector cars that aren't being driven because that is where the value is. I think higher mileage, driver condition Deloreans will still hover around the 50s as a level 3. Sometimes all you need is two bidders to raise the price. Much like the GNX question, a Delorean selling for 65.5K is the same price as a Nissan GTR. What helped the Delorean was being cheap for so long that it didn't compete with many other classics. I think that is affecting the price because you can get more car at the higher prices.
Would it be possible to put what's on your pc screen maybe parked in the upper corner of the video? Love watching the beautiful April, but it's hard to follow context. Thx.
Just have one collector car. Drive it once in a while to keep it from rotting The rest of your money put in an S+P 500 index fund and grow rich slowly. Or get richer. And if you have Too Much Money, do what you want...
April should make, Her '100 Sexiest Cars'. You could could prerecord, Give it to us in 5 or 10 car segments. Have fun on Holiday you 2 XD April Hoovie Road Trip?
Welcome to Aprils garage where we talk about Tyler and his cars 95% of the time. Why does she move so much when she's sitting? Has she never been coached about how to be on camera? She's so damn annoying.
The Bronco 2’s are really hard to find in great original condition…. All were either modified for off-road toys or just used up, rusted and disposed of…
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I totally agree with the prelude, I absolutely love that generation of the car, it looks great, it’s quickish and super fun and reliable.
The Prelude value going up makes sense. Few left, so many got tuned or modded and wrecked during first The Fast and Furious era.
I drove one, a 2000, and loved it. I bought it used in about 2010 with 80k miles and drove it five years till it had almost 200k miles.
Mine was an automatic so it was not modded or tuned. It was a great car.
I've had my 2005 Cooper S for almost 10 years now. It is such a hoot to drive and I still love it! My friend has an Abarth and Tyler is so right about the noise they make, it is fantastic.
plus they are cool looking, I remember the original ones from the 60s when I was growing up in Germany & always wanted one
I've had multiple Brono IIs and never came close to rolling one even once coming up to a T in the road and loosing my brakes I made the turn. No I wasn't driving slow. It is the same with the Jeep CJs or the Suzuki Samurai. If you drive them like you are supposed too they don't tip. Mostly the tipping controversy came when they attacked the Samarai and everyone pointed out that the others could tip as well. Nowhere was there a discussion of if you drive them following manufacturers direction it's less of a problem. I would say they are on the list because there are few examples left that haven't rusted out or been destroyed offroading. The large Broncos are going up as well. It's not likely the Explorer will raise in the next 10 years.
I almost bought a P1800 in the mid-90s, but ended up with a Karmann Ghia. It was gorgeous, but slow. It was also easy to work on. I don’t regret owning the Ghia, but I’d love to own the P1800.
Hoovie, , I’m surprised you didn’t know this, the original warranty was 90 days on the hemi
My neighbor still has all original 1972 white with black interior P1800 that he bought new while in college! He always maintained it & babied it & it has been garaged since 1998 with it just being driven about once every 6 months, only has 55,000 miles on it
I agree with April on a Mini having double doors looking better.
Just love it when April likes a list and hoovies loose his marbles and just acts like grumpy child, the joy of April being right with her choices is priceless.
Wish i still had my '87 Bronco II Eddie Bauer Edition, it was fun, manual 4wd
The DeLorean still has and retains the cool factor though it certainly isn't a drivers car. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
I'd buy a GN or GNX before a Delorean.
Awesome editing Jake! 👍
Lt. Colonel Samantha Carter drove a P1800 in Stargate SG-1. If memory serves, it was Amanda Tapping's actual car, so production decided it was easier to just use her personal vehicle, and it fit the character perfectly. I've always loved that design.
loved that show & she was sexy! My neighbor still has original '72 P1800 that he bought new while in college
There aren’t any bronco Ii’s because of cash for clunkers
They did define the word clunker. 😂
The coolest car from Back to Future was the black Toyota pickup. Aside from the classic cars.
In a Hoovie-esq move I bought a non-running but physically nice Delorean in 2004 for $11K. I then spent $25K in parts and two years doing a nut-and-bolt restoration along with upgrading everything that could be upgraded to it. The economic downturn of 2008 was really tough on the company where I worked so in 2010 I sold it for $25K. The new owner has featured it at the local World-of Wheels many times since then and it's a crowd favorite. It would easily be on the high end of Hagerty's estimate now. Sigh. On the upside, I really didn't like the way it drove.
I literally burst out laughing when you said Bronco II.
I had the same reaction when he said "Supermodel"!
Unless he just meant that she's super at being a model?
Not to throw shade, but one of the criteria for being a 'Supermodel' is that people in the General Public would recognize you or your name.
@@StreetPreacherr I think he is just buttering up his girlfriend, he says that all the time. I hadn't heard of her either before she got together with Hoovie.
P1800 is next level amazing. The biggest issue is that most of them were weird D-jet injection. If you can find a mechanic under 60 years old that understands the all white wire D-jet, you’ve won the lottery, but also lost, because parts prices.
The best bet with these cars is carb it, or resto mod in a modern injection system.
The Ferrari 400 had the GM Turbo 400 (hence the name…) which is one of the best automatics ever made. And 426 hemis from the 60’s were never considered “fragile”. They were warrantied for 12,000 or one year, which ever came first, like every other car in the 1960’s..
I had a 98 Honda Prelude, 5 Speed Manual, White Diamond Pearl color. That car was my first partner in crime - the VTEC transition was like a switch and oh the sound it made. It left me due to a baby seat. I think it is a worthwhile addition to Hagerty’s list.
My daughter dreamed of a Bronco 1 several years ago when they were around $60k for a really good one. She "settled" for a Isuzu Trooper II diesel. She LOVES it. Her taste is the 2 box look.
I used to have one of those Bronco 2s about 30 years ago.
I had a srt8 magnum, drove it for almost 10 years and 170kmiles super reliable till the very end when all the door seals failed and some electronic engine problem that no shop I took it to could figure out, loved it and aprils rite, best noise ever. I also had an SLP loudmouth exhaust on it
There's a place in Houston TX that not only restores original DeLoreans , but will build new replica DeLoreans from the ground up . Also sells parts for them too .
Back in the 80s, and probably into the 90s, most new cars only had a one year warranty. My mother bought a 1980 Ford mustang with a 4-cylinder turbo, and it was a quick little car, but the turbo seized 2 weeks after the 1 year warranty expired and Ford refused to help. She traded it in on a Datsun 210. Boring, but reliable.
Chrysler changed the game with warranties in the Mid 80s with the 7year/70k Mile warranty, and the Korean Cars finally bested that.
Heck most American cars still had 5 digit odometers in the early 80s. Told you how much long term faith they had in their products.
My neighbor has the white O.J / Al Cowlings Bronco. I keep telling him he needs to restore it and put an O.J wrap/ picture in the back window and take it to Barret -Jackson and auction it for a ton of money.
I was e-mailed that list - I almost spit out my coffee.......
I agree with Tyler bc I thought the same thing when I saw their list this year
Love the P1800 and have always wanted to mechanically restomod one but try to keep the original look
125k miles on my magnum srt8. Regular maintenance and it does 1/4 mile and 1/2 mile events. Had it since 2012. Just some bolt ons and a tune👍
I agree with the Volvo. Don't forget about the wagon version. Simon Templar (initials S.T., hence the St.) eventually moved up to a Jaguar XJ-S, which I also love.
The Volvo was designed by Pelle Peterson while working for Frua. Ghia had nothing to do with this one
Hoovie, I’m sorry that your Hemi experience hasn’t gone super well, but to call the modern Hemi engine unreliable is completely foolish. Sure, it can fail when abused by someone who doesn’t maintain their vehicle. But there are hundreds of thousands still on the road today with well over 100,000 miles. You commonly find running examples on sale sites with 200,000 plus miles. It will only drop the valves if overheated. The Hemi tick is the biggest known flaw, but it only happens if you idle the engine a lot, and it can be remedied if you replace the stock oil pump with a high flow version that is made and sold by Melling.
Those original Hemis had a 90 day warranty. 😂
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the 1997 and 1998 honda prelude 2.0 was a car i wanted back in the day and I wished I kept my '98 honda prelude which I used as my personal parts go getter car back in early 2k's for my car audio & performance shop man after hearing you say the numbers and the best years for them makes me mad I didn't keep it i picked it up from my friends dealership some older lady owned it for 2 years put only 7500 or 8500 miles on it and traded it in and I got it for $500 over dealership trade in value back in 2000.. you forgot to mention it had 4WS which made it perfect for a lil zip zip car to zip around town in took lil effort on the freeway to zip in n out of lanes with it also made for my shops perfect demo vehicle which I put a killer audio system in it along with all the go fast parts on it
Had a ‘81 280 ZX Turbo. It was a blast.
The Bronco 2’s are really hard to find in great original condition….
All were either modified for off-road toys or just used up, rusted and disposed of…
hemi warranty was 90 days. Not covered if raced
You need to drive a 400 w/manual! I might know someone that would loan you one :)
They are not saying they are worth a lot now, they are saying the are still somewhat affordable now but are expected to go up in the future, so you should buy them NOW.
1% here still alive that had a Volvo 1800. 😁
Me, too! Like the P1800ES even more (shooting brake)!
I'm in the 1% soon as you said p1800 I thought saint n I'm only 42 😮😂😂
Yeah, the show was "before my time" as they say, but it's been re-run regularly throughout the decades and you can watch it right now if you wish and it holds up well! So well over 1% Hoovie!
@MatthewBrannigan always loved the P1800 there's been some sick builds on them over the years overall shape is timeless 👌
I have an 06 Magnum SRT8 in black. It has, *checks notes*, 27k miles on the clock. Make me an offer ;)
Whats that on the background? An Evo? 👀 Also, April should get her own neon sign 😑😁
The saint classic Roger Moore grew up watching it in blighty.
I feel like it gets old fast to be told "right..." in this kind of way. Especially when it means: yeah whatever, let's move on.
Hope April Loves her GNX enough to renovate it Right before she buys a DeLorean
She wants a GNX, but Tyler's is only a GN.
I know the Saint and the 1800. But I'm approaching 60, so that may explain it.
The only car on this list that I would cross the street to see was the E-type
This video is a perfect example of the difference between a woman who is into cars and a man who is into cars.
I LOVE the Bronco II !! My parents had one when they came out and would love to find a decent one but they have been over priced forever..
Metro 6r4 should be on the list.
DId I miss the video on this channel or Hoovie's channel about the blue Mustang?
Tyler, you had a 2004 MC40 (40th Anniversary of winning the Monte Carlo rally) MINI Cooper S.
I have a 2007 dodge charger rt Daytona with over 300000 miles and it's still going strong 358 out of 1500 made
I believe the Ferrari 400 had a Turbo 400 in it
P1800 was designed by a swedish yacht designer, Pelle Petterson. Not italian.
Prelude or Abarth, please.
I want to know where they got the exhaust sound for the Back to the Future DeLorean during the one cold start. That sounded fantastic. Probably dubbed in?
Porsche 928 V8 was used for the engine sounds.
A rising tide LIFTS all boats,
Not FLOATS all boats 😅
Eventually every make/model of car will be on the bull market. Even the Vega/Pinto/Gremlin/Omni....Pontiac Boneville/Ford LTD/Chrysler New Yorker/AMC Matador.
Waiting for Tyler to start pronouncing Hyundai as Hi-un-day!😅
Prelude 2.2!
The Z car shown for the ZX series is the wrong era. You're showing a 75-78 series car. The 240Z, 69-73 -> 260Z, 74 -> 280Z, 75-78 were all the same basic shape. The big design change was in 79 which was also the introduction of the Nissan name in the US. One of the rarer ones would be the 80 Anniversary edition, but is still fairly easy to come by.
I live in the Denver area and I have a classic 1st gen bronco in incredible condition I’d love for you to check out and make a video with
Sell all of them and they will be on the list.
April, I never realized you were a snob before today. Honda prelude apparently is only for peons like us
Hoover is a moron. DMC-12 has a steel frame designed by Lotus. It’s a fun car, a similar driving experience to the 280ZX mentioned earlier in the video. Perhaps he’s jealous that a DeLorean will get more driving attention than anything in his fleet.
I mean, he's owned one.
He missed the Hemi boat as well lol. That engine isn’t nearly as bad as he says it is.
A Bugatti is cool but I don’t want to sacrifice hoovie to see another one on YT there’s plenty of content already, I’d rather see hoovie buy 1000 hoopties
The volvo p1800 is such a beautiful car! I agree with April on this one!
Chinese company. No F way.
I can't remember which TH-camr swapped out the intake manifolds and everything above on a Bronco II and it was way better. I think it might have been a Holly kit?
April's Auto emporium hahahah
Me, I am the 1%. I want a p1800
Love April ❤
Who doesn’t? She’s a living doll.
Tell us your story about how you got into cars April! We all know Tyler’s story but what’s yours!??
Can I suggest you apply a wrap on you table in your garage loft? It looks terrible on camera. Can you also turn the table so it incorporates your excellent collection of cars in the background? Also please raise the two centre cars up and fill in the gaps with your other cars?
Occasionally focus on one or another of the cars on your lifts for a quick update and feeling about it?
Otherwise you both look great and come across pretty well. April should focus on female car issues that are not being catered for and you for the male perspective. Your historical contributions are appreciated by enthusiasts everywhere. Good luck from Ireland.😁👍
And perhaps they should lift the shop off it's foundation and rotate it 12 degrees. We can make wardrobe recommendations in the next video.
You are too picky. watch something else if it bothers you.
The Opel GT was way better than the Volvo. The Issue with the Bronco II like the S10 Blazer is besides the narrow wheelbase that caused them to roll over in a sharp turn like the CJ5 is they were stupid and did not put a small block in it.
I have seen videos of people talking about whether Honda should bring back the 2000 or why they could never make that car again. They talk about how it could never be the basic sports car it was and that it would not sell but then you look at the Miata and say, "No." I think Honda should make the 2000 again as basic sports car in competition to the Miata
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The datsun weren't cool cars they were slow and unreliable. The 6.1 hemi was the best and the most reliable hoovie doesn't know what he's talking about.
Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha
FIRST!!
No one is accepting the fact that FSD will destroy the used car market. A massive crash in value is coming where few ‘collector cars’ will retain their value. Worse, the cost to maintain these cars is increasingly becoming prohibitively expensive.
Does FSD work as well as the auto wipers?
@@Chris-mh3vf don’t know. I can still use my right hand to wipe.
I have other uses for my right hand
@@Chris-mh3vf Hoovies only appreciating collectible is April and I believe she’s left-handed.
Collector cars aren’t going to be affected by FSD cars. Totally unconnected things.
The Deloreans selling for 6 figures this year have been super low miles (3500 and under); these are collector cars that aren't being driven because that is where the value is. I think higher mileage, driver condition Deloreans will still hover around the 50s as a level 3. Sometimes all you need is two bidders to raise the price. Much like the GNX question, a Delorean selling for 65.5K is the same price as a Nissan GTR. What helped the Delorean was being cheap for so long that it didn't compete with many other classics. I think that is affecting the price because you can get more car at the higher prices.
Would it be possible to put what's on your pc screen maybe parked in the upper corner of the video? Love watching the beautiful April, but it's hard to follow context. Thx.
The series one E Type looks like a pig on stilts !
Just have one collector car. Drive it once in a while to keep it from rotting The rest of your money put in an S+P 500 index fund and grow rich slowly. Or get richer. And if you have Too Much Money, do what you want...
This is not a financial channel. Send a note to Dave Ramsey.
April should make, Her '100 Sexiest Cars'. You could could prerecord, Give it to us in 5 or 10 car segments.
Have fun on Holiday you 2 XD
April Hoovie Road Trip?
Welcome to Aprils garage where we talk about Tyler and his cars 95% of the time. Why does she move so much when she's sitting? Has she never been coached about how to be on camera? She's so damn annoying.
Relax. She is just very animated. Would you rather look at Hoovie all video?
where is the nice vieuw april....😇🤭
First 😂😂
Nope, your second.
The Bronco 2’s are really hard to find in great original condition….
All were either modified for off-road toys or just used up, rusted and disposed of…