Kirk was not on the field in 2 wr sets during the preseason.. maybe it will change but I'm a little worried about his usage with them drafting a wr in the first round
He was not on the field during two WR sets in the preseason last year either and wasn’t at times last year. He’s a slot WR, it’s normal. Doesn’t mean he isn’t their top option
I am on ESPN and you are correct on all of these guys. I drafted my first team on ESPN (don't judge me) and it includes Waddle, Kirk and Dionte Johnson, because they are insane values.
Hello. Which 1 of this grouping shall I keep; Montgomery in 6th, Reed in 15th orr Ford in 17th? Already keeping Collins in 9th. It’s A 12 team FULL ppr league which starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX (RB, WR), TE & DST with about 18-24 total keepers, only can keep 2. Thanks A bunch! - Tony Tuddy
@@TSharpx Hello. Which 1 of these 2 shall I keep; Cooper in 7th orr Dell in 12th? Already keeping R. White in 8th. It’s A 12 team half ppr league which starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX (RB, WR), TE & DST with about 18-24 total keepers, only can keep 2. Thanks A bunch! - Tony Tuddy
Question Dave, listening to the Washington coaches they are raving about B. Robinson both his rushing and excelling in the passing game out of the backfield. Ekeler has already said he wants far less touches could you not see this split more a 70/30 Robinson to Ekeler? I think Ekeler is just being expected to take half the workload but that may not be the case at all. I think Robinson is a far better pick (JMO)
Last season was Amari cooper’s 5th most targeted season, not third (Fact check please)..and removing his outlier monster game, he goes from WR14 to WR27 -averaging 8.2 fantasy pts just beating out adam theilen. Yikes! Just me, but I’d rather draft the younger players ranked below the 30 yr old ie Nabers, Tank Dell, Zay Flowers
Kluge said Washington didn't have another guy to catch passes out of the backfield last year while disussing Brian Robinson when they had Antonio Gibson. SMH
Ekeler pulls nearly double the target share Gibson does. I'm actually higher on Robinson than most of the other staffers at Footballguys. I like him this year. But his ADP on ESPN is way too high, and that was the premise of this show.
@@davekluge3923 You said they didn't have another guy to catch passes last year when Antonio Gibson had more targets and catches than Robinson. Gibson: 59 targets and 48 catches... Robinson: 43 targets and 36 catches. How can you be doubling down that they didn't have anyone to catch passes last year when the other RB there had more targets and more catches? It's preposterous. Your comparison is also completely apples to oranges saying that Ekeler poles nearly double the target share that Gibson does because the data you are going by is Austin Ekeler being the starter for the Chargers when he clearly will not get anywhere near that target share splitting the backfield on Washington. It's one thing to be wrong and admit you made a mistake but it's another to double down when you're wrong and it's compltely irrefutable.
Thank you guys so much I’ve been waiting for a video such as this!!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Good take
Cooper and Njoku flourished with Flacco at QB last year. I don’t see Watson duplicating these numbers for them.
I’m honestly just commenting about Conklin at this point to stay on brand.
I don’t even play any leagues in ESPN lol
Kirk was not on the field in 2 wr sets during the preseason.. maybe it will change but I'm a little worried about his usage with them drafting a wr in the first round
He’s the top target in the offense. He doesn’t need as many reps in preseason.
He was not on the field during two WR sets in the preseason last year either and wasn’t at times last year. He’s a slot WR, it’s normal. Doesn’t mean he isn’t their top option
Doesn't mean a thing, he is the top receiving option.
I am on ESPN and you are correct on all of these guys. I drafted my first team on ESPN (don't judge me) and it includes Waddle, Kirk and Dionte Johnson, because they are insane values.
insane
Hello. Which 1 of this grouping shall I keep; Montgomery in 6th, Reed in 15th orr Ford in 17th? Already keeping Collins in 9th. It’s A 12 team FULL ppr league which starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX (RB, WR), TE & DST with about 18-24 total keepers, only can keep 2. Thanks A bunch! - Tony Tuddy
Id say Ford honestly. Snag chubb in the draft and you own all the CLE backfield points
@@TSharpx Hello. Which 1 of these 2 shall I keep; Cooper in 7th orr Dell in 12th? Already keeping R. White in 8th. It’s A 12 team half ppr league which starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX (RB, WR), TE & DST with about 18-24 total keepers, only can keep 2. Thanks A bunch! - Tony Tuddy
Question Dave, listening to the Washington coaches they are raving about B. Robinson both his rushing and excelling in the passing game out of the backfield. Ekeler has already said he wants far less touches could you not see this split more a 70/30 Robinson to Ekeler? I think Ekeler is just being expected to take half the workload but that may not be the case at all. I think Robinson is a far better pick (JMO)
Better Full PPR pick re draft..A cooper, Tank Dell or Christian Kirk?
TANK
Tank
How early is this recorded.. downs has a high ankle sprain and will miss some time 🤔
We mentioned it. He likely won’t miss any games in season.
Last season was Amari cooper’s 5th most targeted season, not third (Fact check please)..and removing his outlier monster game, he goes from WR14 to WR27 -averaging 8.2 fantasy pts just beating out adam theilen. Yikes! Just me, but I’d rather draft the younger players ranked below the 30 yr old ie Nabers, Tank Dell, Zay Flowers
I’d be drafting a lot more Josh downs if it wasn’t for the high ankle sprain. Are you guys factoring that in?
yeah we are. his price is still just so cheap.
Since when did Jaylen Waddle start playing for the Browns? Just kidding gents! Love the content as always! 🙌
Appreciate it!
Kirk sucks DND. BJJr is the WR1 there. skate to the puck
you guys doing yahoo??
We did. We filmed it, uploaded and there was a behind the scenes error. So we had to take it down. Lost in the archives forever.
I think they’re listening to you because Waddle moved up a round. He’s 39 now
ESPN is a debacle
Jeez ESPN rankings are ass confirmed
These are actually not the ESPN rankings, it’s the ADP. So that is influenced by users
@@FootballguysFantasy I see. I wonder what influences the significant differences in adp across platforms. nice vid btw
Kluge said Washington didn't have another guy to catch passes out of the backfield last year while disussing Brian Robinson when they had Antonio Gibson. SMH
Ekeler pulls nearly double the target share Gibson does. I'm actually higher on Robinson than most of the other staffers at Footballguys. I like him this year. But his ADP on ESPN is way too high, and that was the premise of this show.
@@davekluge3923 You said they didn't have another guy to catch passes last year when Antonio Gibson had more targets and catches than Robinson. Gibson: 59 targets and 48 catches... Robinson: 43 targets and 36 catches. How can you be doubling down that they didn't have anyone to catch passes last year when the other RB there had more targets and more catches? It's preposterous. Your comparison is also completely apples to oranges saying that Ekeler poles nearly double the target share that Gibson does because the data you are going by is Austin Ekeler being the starter for the Chargers when he clearly will not get anywhere near that target share splitting the backfield on Washington. It's one thing to be wrong and admit you made a mistake but it's another to double down when you're wrong and it's compltely irrefutable.