I've got a few relatives that have built in appliances, NO THANKS! Every single time they have to replace an appliance it's a major cabinet rebuild and extremely expensive. Try replacing one of those SubZero refrigerators, the prices are ridiculous. We're on our 2nd regular fridge in 26 years and when we replaced it about 7 years ago they just unhooked the old one, wheeled it out, wheeled the new one in, hooked it up and slid it into place. That brand of "easy button" is priceless.
I think built-in's are just made for those really rich people. When you have a huge kitchen and enough money, you can put a 48 inch or even wider combination of columns there, and it'll be fantastic, you still have enough space because of the extra width, and because it's shallow, everything is easy to find. But if you only have a standard 36 inch cutout, things kinda start to suck, I almost bought a Thermador french door, but then realized that as nice as it looks and feels, it's really impractical, besides the shallowness, even the door bins are much narrower than normal counter depth fridges. I ended up buying a Fisher Paykel counter depth and pretty happy so far.
I bought a 30" Liebherr Built-in that was a floor model. it was less than $5000. Their interior design make the limited space very usable. I'm not rich and my kitchen isn't big , but I did build a really nice kitchen. At first I thought I was foolish to spend so much for a refrigerator. but after 13 years, I've come to love the clean look of a built-in. I'm about to move into a new home and also build a new kitchen, and I'm debating whether or not not do built in again. Times have changed... thing are REALLY expensive now. I think another benefit to expensive built-ins is that repair parts are available for decades- so your $14,000 refrigerator can last 30 years. I could buy a freestanding Samsung for $1700 and try to make it look somewhat built-in, but what happed in 5 years when it breaks? will there be parts? If not, will a different refrigerator look right? that's what I am thinking through.
I'm looking to buy a panel refrigerator for my new house I'm building. I've narrowed down my decision to the Frigidaire Professional 32" column all fridge and all freezer combo and the Electrolux 19cu in all fridge and all freezer columns (EI33AF80WS and EI33AR80WS) . My question is that I'm having trouble finding information on the Electrolux regarding quality and reliability so I can compare it to the Frigidaire. Which has better reliability according to your data and service calls in the past and which option would you recommend?
First, they are the same product so pick your favorite aesthetic and go for it. We haven't sold the brands in a while so wouldn't be your best resource for service and reliability for these brands. I will say we ended our partnership due to unresolved service issues on the manufacturer side.
So the answer is "whatever works best for your needs." If freezer is a big need and you don't need much fresh food storage than it would work well for you.
@@YaleAppliance1 It's just my husband and I but I prefer storing frozen foods like meat, frozen veggies and fruits, etc for months so I don't need to go to the store. Then I will just transfer to regular fridge the stuff we need for that week so I don't need to open the freezer constantly. That's my plan soon.
I think this video is misleading little bit about the part how you can make a standard fridge look like integrated one by allowing more depth in the cabinet. The truth is that standard fridge has regular hinges, thus you need the 2-3" on each side to allow for the door to open, while integrated fridge has a "zero clearance" hinges. This is the main reason why you have to pull out the standard fridge out of the cabinets line. I got here by looking for some kind of hinge swap, but does not appear to be available.
I believe you missed a key point but I might be totally wrong.... If it is integrated, inside a cabinet, it will have poorer ventilation and so, it will have to work harder to maintain the same temperature, right? Or is this overcome by something I am forgetting?
Integrated refrigeration is made to be built into the wall. You're correct about counter depth refrigeration. That is freestanding and needs extra space to vent to prevent form overworking the cooling system.
I have a 42” Sub Zero side by side from when I built my house in 1997 / 1998. For the most part it’s been a flawless performer and I think it looks magnificent in my kitchen. I have no plans to replace it until it is no longer repairable. But you mentioned a 42” French door refrigerator. I wonder if that would side in in place of my Sub Zero when the need arises? Current replacement cost on my Sub Zero is $14,000. Yes, I would buy another Sub Zero, but I’d also consider my options!
I think that any time that you choose form over function, that you are overpaying for the actual usability. Unfortunately in the world of appliances, that can be by thousands of dollars.
Thank you for this video. I am entertaining an integrated unit only because of the perceived higher performance and build quality. Price aside, is there a standalone fridge that can match the performance and longevity of a sub-zero? If yes, what make and model do you recommend for french-door style? Thank you.
@@YaleAppliance1 Thank you for the quick response. Do integrated units preserve food better than free-standing units? Is there a free-standing unit that can match the performance of a integrated fridge? Thank you
The three main problems with integrated refrigerators: 1. Capacity (they do not hold as much) 2. Price (the are significantly more expensive) 3. Features and configurations (standard pro-counter depth refrigerators offer more)
How does this argument apply to Jenn-Air's 42" integrated french door unit? We're in the process of building our kitchen out around that unit, because it was far cheaper than separate columns, with good width for storage, while achieving the clean aesthetic we're going for
The JennAir 42-inch French door is a great fridge and you obviously have your reasons for deciding it was the best choice for you so nothing in this video should dissuade you from purchasing.
I HATE interrupting beautiful cabinetry with a giant ugly block of stainless steel or any other non-integrated material. Why don't they make panel-ready, standard depth refrigerators? I don't mind building the surrounding cabinetry column deeper to accommodate a standard depth fridge, but I need the panel option! Seems so obvious.
@@puddingmango And any time you see the word 'smart' used in the description of a feature or as part of the model name of any consumer product, you can be certain that the product is overpriced by at least 200% per occurrence.
@@YaleAppliance1 ah, I respect all of the knowledge that you bring forth Steve! I also see and feel the passion that you have for appliances and how you want to educate not only your customers, but all of us too! Thank you. . Your dedication, knowledge, hard work ethics and integrity make you a true success! An excellent combination in building your very lucky subscribers’ base.. My very best regards, Susan:)
Selling integrated is easy and almost automatic....Thats the problem. Families often need more cubic footage, especially during the last year and a half. I want people to think before they buy
I bought an integrated one when I renovated my house, WORST MISTAKE I HAVE DONE EVER! other than looks it has ZERO advantages, in fact it's all downsides. And remember you can't sell them! No one will buy a second hand integrated one
I really appreciate that you tell us the truth -- the good, the bad and the ugly.
So glad to hear it.. Thank you!
I've got a few relatives that have built in appliances, NO THANKS! Every single time they have to replace an appliance it's a major cabinet rebuild and extremely expensive. Try replacing one of those SubZero refrigerators, the prices are ridiculous. We're on our 2nd regular fridge in 26 years and when we replaced it about 7 years ago they just unhooked the old one, wheeled it out, wheeled the new one in, hooked it up and slid it into place. That brand of "easy button" is priceless.
I think built-in's are just made for those really rich people. When you have a huge kitchen and enough money, you can put a 48 inch or even wider combination of columns there, and it'll be fantastic, you still have enough space because of the extra width, and because it's shallow, everything is easy to find. But if you only have a standard 36 inch cutout, things kinda start to suck, I almost bought a Thermador french door, but then realized that as nice as it looks and feels, it's really impractical, besides the shallowness, even the door bins are much narrower than normal counter depth fridges. I ended up buying a Fisher Paykel counter depth and pretty happy so far.
I bought a 30" Liebherr Built-in that was a floor model. it was less than $5000. Their interior design make the limited space very usable. I'm not rich and my kitchen isn't big , but I did build a really nice kitchen. At first I thought I was foolish to spend so much for a refrigerator. but after 13 years, I've come to love the clean look of a built-in. I'm about to move into a new home and also build a new kitchen, and I'm debating whether or not not do built in again. Times have changed... thing are REALLY expensive now. I think another benefit to expensive built-ins is that repair parts are available for decades- so your $14,000 refrigerator can last 30 years.
I could buy a freestanding Samsung for $1700 and try to make it look somewhat built-in, but what happed in 5 years when it breaks? will there be parts? If not, will a different refrigerator look right?
that's what I am thinking through.
I'm looking to buy a panel refrigerator for my new house I'm building. I've narrowed down my decision to the Frigidaire Professional 32" column all fridge and all freezer combo and the Electrolux 19cu in all fridge and all freezer columns (EI33AF80WS and EI33AR80WS) . My question is that I'm having trouble finding information on the Electrolux regarding quality and reliability so I can compare it to the Frigidaire. Which has better reliability according to your data and service calls in the past and which option would you recommend?
First, they are the same product so pick your favorite aesthetic and go for it. We haven't sold the brands in a while so wouldn't be your best resource for service and reliability for these brands. I will say we ended our partnership due to unresolved service issues on the manufacturer side.
Question: What's your opinion on putting standing freezer in the kitchen and couple that with a not so big refrigerator.
So the answer is "whatever works best for your needs." If freezer is a big need and you don't need much fresh food storage than it would work well for you.
@@YaleAppliance1 It's just my husband and I but I prefer storing frozen foods like meat, frozen veggies and fruits, etc for months so I don't need to go to the store. Then I will just transfer to regular fridge the stuff we need for that week so I don't need to open the freezer constantly. That's my plan soon.
I think this video is misleading little bit about the part how you can make a standard fridge look like integrated one by allowing more depth in the cabinet. The truth is that standard fridge has regular hinges, thus you need the 2-3" on each side to allow for the door to open, while integrated fridge has a "zero clearance" hinges. This is the main reason why you have to pull out the standard fridge out of the cabinets line. I got here by looking for some kind of hinge swap, but does not appear to be available.
I believe you missed a key point but I might be totally wrong.... If it is integrated, inside a cabinet, it will have poorer ventilation and so, it will have to work harder to maintain the same temperature, right?
Or is this overcome by something I am forgetting?
Integrated refrigeration is made to be built into the wall. You're correct about counter depth refrigeration. That is freestanding and needs extra space to vent to prevent form overworking the cooling system.
@@YaleAppliance1 thanks.
I have a 42” Sub Zero side by side from when I built my house in 1997 / 1998. For the most part it’s been a flawless performer and I think it looks magnificent in my kitchen. I have no plans to replace it until it is no longer repairable.
But you mentioned a 42” French door refrigerator. I wonder if that would side in in place of my Sub Zero when the need arises?
Current replacement cost on my Sub Zero is $14,000. Yes, I would buy another Sub Zero, but I’d also consider my options!
Great info! Thank you!
I think that any time that you choose form over function, that you are overpaying for the actual usability. Unfortunately in the world of appliances, that can be by thousands of dollars.
Thank you for this video. I am entertaining an integrated unit only because of the perceived higher performance and build quality. Price aside, is there a standalone fridge that can match the performance and longevity of a sub-zero? If yes, what make and model do you recommend for french-door style? Thank you.
I like the Thermador, and also True if you want a Pro look.
@@YaleAppliance1 Thank you for the quick response. Do integrated units preserve food better than free-standing units? Is there a free-standing unit that can match the performance of a integrated fridge? Thank you
The three main problems with integrated refrigerators:
1. Capacity (they do not hold as much)
2. Price (the are significantly more expensive)
3. Features and configurations (standard pro-counter depth refrigerators offer more)
Nope.
Integrated all the way.
How does this argument apply to Jenn-Air's 42" integrated french door unit? We're in the process of building our kitchen out around that unit, because it was far cheaper than separate columns, with good width for storage, while achieving the clean aesthetic we're going for
The JennAir 42-inch French door is a great fridge and you obviously have your reasons for deciding it was the best choice for you so nothing in this video should dissuade you from purchasing.
thank you for this
You're very welcome!
🤦🏾♀️ I just ordered one!!!!!
I have one...don't worry. Just make sure you have enough capacity.
@@shank296 how much capacity is that, per person?
I don’t think you can build the cabinet out to cover a regular counter depth fridge. The door won’t work!
I HATE interrupting beautiful cabinetry with a giant ugly block of stainless steel or any other non-integrated material. Why don't they make panel-ready, standard depth refrigerators? I don't mind building the surrounding cabinetry column deeper to accommodate a standard depth fridge, but I need the panel option! Seems so obvious.
I have another video...just for you.
What? My integrated 650 liter fridge was 1200$ ...from Samsung with smart home integration
Integrated fridges should be at least $7k in price, you probably just have a counter depth, which Samsung advertises it as integrated.
@@puddingmango And any time you see the word 'smart' used in the description of a feature or as part of the model name of any consumer product, you can be certain that the product is overpriced by at least 200% per occurrence.
Good to see your subscriber numbers are going up! More people getting educated….This was very helpful! Many thanks Steve! Susan from Ontario Canada
Thank you, Susan.
:)
@@YaleAppliance1 ah, I respect all of the knowledge that you bring forth Steve! I also see and feel the passion that you have for appliances and how you want to educate not only your customers, but all of us too! Thank you. . Your dedication, knowledge, hard work ethics and integrity make you a true success! An excellent combination in building your very lucky subscribers’ base.. My very best regards, Susan:)
Or you could just move to Europe where stuff just works
Gee. I thought counter depth (as compared to standard depth) was an irredeemably stupid idea.
Sometimes you can guild a lily too much.
Having a hard time selling/getting integrated refrigerators I see. Needing to change your business model. Smart…..
Not at all! Just trying to point out potential issues with these very popular products.
Selling integrated is easy and almost automatic....Thats the problem. Families often need more cubic footage, especially during the last year and a half. I want people to think before they buy
I bought an integrated one when I renovated my house, WORST MISTAKE I HAVE DONE EVER! other than looks it has ZERO advantages, in fact it's all downsides. And remember you can't sell them! No one will buy a second hand integrated one
What exactly are Americans putting in these refrigerators that you need it to be so deep? this is outrageous, lol
We shop less and buy more.....