It was not the sexual passion which held Alexander and Hephaistion together. It was the deepest and most honest love you can only imagine. The love and bond between them was stronger than any physical action. I wish and dream that all people would experience this kind of love in reality. How beautiful it sounds.
Wrong perspective. In deed, in ancient Greece it was encouraged, expected and very common having these types of male relationships that include sexual practice. The standard of today's friends love are way different of those from that period of time in Greece. Condemned or not by our opinions (I am not the best supporter of gay rights) this is really a historically inaccurate movie.
These are my favourite scenes in the movie, and I like that you added subtitles. The Romeo and Juliet theme music was perfect with this video. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion are my favourite historical characters. The story of their lifelong love is forever inspiring.
It wasn't only sexual passion that held them together. Their love and respect for each other and their deep bond of friendship and love which they created from childhood is just so beautiful. They cared about each other more than themselves.
O scenă de înaltă calitate, performanță artistică... Câtă sensibilitate,câtă simțire adâncă și curată.... ,sigur de cea mai frumoasa și înaltă trăire !!!!
Jared Leto is really good at 6:45-7:40. There's nothing sad about the dialogue itself. It simply sounds like a man congratulating his friend before his wedding. However, it's obvious from Hephaestion's tone of voice, gestures, facial expressions, etc... that he's completely heartbroken but trying not to show it.
Thank you for this brilliant clip! I cry every time watching it! Their love is unbeatable, untouchable, and irreplaceable. It’s the one and only love....
You've done a fabulous job of encapsulating their love story from the long and convoluted history of Alexander's conquests. I love the line: "Nobody ever defeated Alexander except Hephaestion's thighs. Pairing it with the R & J theme works very well. Thanks for all you editing work here. You've done a fine job.
Alexander was bisexual, as most men were in ancient Italy and Greece, as were the women. Maybe in Celtic, Iberian, Germanic, Scythian, Brittanic etc. etc. tribes there was less of that going on, but there was definitely more freedom of sexuality in antiquity without any judgement from others. People had more important things to focus on, unlike weak ass humans do today.
I would trade anything for such love , Money ,power , whatever it is it would never surpass such love, its better to die early but your loved than live a long life that doesnt feel love even once for his/her lifetime
@@sana_the_bookaholic When you really love some one and live or follow a path together you do not realize what you had together until they are gone (dead) Only then you see that you have lived in awe and bliss. In front at such experience your heart and mind feel so hopeless and small you long for the person but know that there is nothing that one can do. Screaming, crying, distracting one self at the end nothing works. One has to "die " but it takes time you have to renew your self change and find a place to grieve alone. No one understand you. The experience is sublime you feel small in front of the events.
@@sana_the_bookaholic After the passing of a loved one is normal to feel this way. So did I, one feels that one did not say all, what we could have done better ? We go on with our life and we learn to better our self. This way by doing good to people that are there now with us we get forgiveness and acceptance from our loved one that passed away. Above all forgive your self, you are learning and improving. No one is perfect, we learn from experience.
It's real. :))))))) Trust me on this. People will say that it's just fiction and historically inaccurate... but I have been a shamanic dreamer all my life and I know that some things happen in history before their time, and one day the Vision is revealed. LOVE!
The time has come , My Great Alexander The Great Macedon-Greek -The Mighty Glory and Power then from Alexandria Egypt. Alexander and Hephaestion love brothers between relationships. All of them Macedon-Greek Soldiers Army to the battles are going out there Travel to Africa Egypt , Iraq Babylonia to Iran Persian War after Asia India Hindu to the End so far away.
I absolutely love the way Hephastion says "My Alexander" at 2:34. So much emotion in only two words! I'm really glad you made this. Seeing all of these moments together really shows you the love these two share.
Thank you for your memorable video. I've watched this movie five years ago and was deeply moved by it for beautifully porturated love between these two actors and I almost have forgotten that they were playing as gay lovers. Although there is no physical evidence stated that they were lovers, fiction or not, their love story is the main theme in this movie in my opinion.
I'm Jason aka jadog,s aka alaxder the great!! Alexander 💙🙏😇 love for afitian was and is one of the greatest love of all time! Alexander 💙 🙏😇 always be the greatest!!! One love peace and harmany to the world!! Amen!! God bless everybody 🙏! Amen!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing with subtitle, I'm inspiration in love of the them. It beautiful poem. I want this will real happen in my life " Soul mate"
Omg, again.. it all comes back again, this Alexander madness and obsession and all permeating sadness :'( A highest divine love, a recognising each other among thousands of others, and recognition of your true, only friend in this life. We all want this, almost none gets... Their full-package chemistry is unbearable to watch. Need. their. kiss. in. here. badly.
Alexander's wife : he needs me Hephaistion: no he doesn't Her: and he needs you? ME: YES HE'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE FIVE MINUTES SHUT UP
It's a Pushtoon Tribe, living in the north of Pakistan and Aghanistan, not Hephaetion tribe*. So the correct is: " it was said later that Alixander was never defeated except by a Pushtoon Tribe." 1:50
Its called a real love a real trust for a man who's desteny was not being stable death could any time any where caugt him.they know that but they always blindly trust each other.nd taught us that in love sex is not a part of it 1 hug 1 kiss thats it show your feelings but in realy its comming out from trust blindly.
Great video but i have to say that the describing the relationship between Alexander and Hephaistion as homosexual is not historically proven and is actually doubted by lots of historians.
Hugo Stalla-Bourdillon true. They were greatest friends and they deeply love themselves...than is it so important if they were also lovers ( meaning sex), or not? Tradition reports that Aristotle defined them as one soul in two bodies. Isn't it enought?
It's not actually doubted by most, in fact I'd say its usually the popular assumption nowadays that they were most likely lovers. The real question I see is did that continue into adulthood or not bc while boy/boy and boy/man rls were cool, man/man rls were NOT 😂.
My question is: why are ancient Greeks in Hollywood always speaking with an Irish or Scottish accent? lol... "I'll be op" :))) "If you haven't noticed, we've been sharing our culture with you all morning"
i've been looking all over the internet for the complete alexander movie that hasn't been cut from at all and my eyes bulged out and i still couldn't find them . where did u watch the full movie? there's a scene im dying to see where alexander and hephaestion hold out their matching necklaces, plus the fight scene between clietus and hephaestion and hephaestion's hurt reaction to being replaced by bagoas . argh !
I see that Alexander had to listen to some "Evangelical" lecture from his time too! :(( Yes, that is accurate historically - they've done their proper research. Such lectures seriously mess people up! Amusingly, I had been under the same programming in my 20s, when trying to figure out where my passion for slash came from... and at first thinking that "Sex between the men would ruin everything. Those pure feelings! Ew sex" :P (little did I know, that Greek men *themselves* theorized that gay people shouldn't have sex... because gay supposedly "doesn't really exist" as true love/partnership - very similar to the church propaganda nowadays). As a result, it's a very immature interpretation that "It was not the sexual passion which held Alexander and Hephaistion together. It was the deepest and most honest love you can only imagine. The love and bond between them was stronger than any physical action. I wish and dream that all people would experience this kind of love in reality. How beautiful it sounds." (mel b) Indeed, "sounds" great if you don't know, but it's not how it works. They had to *die* to be together in the way their souls wanted! Which would otherwise be unnecessary. Today we are still grasping at bits of this Vision because all the good ones die young, but it is those that live who get to change the world... so yeah. Evil bastards we are. :P Looking closely, "Physical action" (lol!) is being unfairly relegated to a "down there" by not recognizing it's not as much physical as it is energetic (being looked down upon, from our "head-quarters") - a most pure, honest expression of connectedness and intimacy. I do experience "this kind of pure love" in reality, so I can tell you that the idea "Platonic Love is higher than other loves (for reason of asexual conduct)" is very flawed, and messed me up for a long time!! It's one thing to be asexual *to society*, but to be truly in love with a man, to recognize him as your true love, and still reject him based only on a wish to achieve "excellency" in the eyes of the collective, is fighting against yourself. Stop doing that. We should live undivided. (By the way I seriously ogle Buddhist monks... imagine that level of self-control! Yum.) Starting with Plato, Greeks began to rewrite their older myths to divide between "higher and lower" aspects. Yet the "higher" aspect as they saw it, is not true eternity - it is merely an effect of literacy which happened in those days. It started to disconnect people from Nature and from what really matters. Such as the fact these myths had already been created out of a need in society to highlight its social imbalances. The myths are "the odd one out" (the rebels against injustice) and didn't need to be doctored. The myths tell of many examples of lovers who couldn't recognize their love as "good" and thus had to die in order to find themselves. The reality around them was indeed filled with unbridled lust, but they misapplied this thought to their relationship. (By the way lust is very interesting, as it indicates the abuse that you subject your own mind to, which lust arrives to balance out in the end.) As far as I got from the movie and mythological studies, Alexander then made it his goal to "protect" his lover Hephaestion from all the "darker aspects" (sexual passion) he imagined would not be "conducive to excellency" or would put undue pressure on his friend. This is a very common problem. And in many cases, a tragedy. Sexuality (in its true sense) is what creates love in the world, not the other way around. Sexuality is the purest thing you have inside yourself, the one thing which is not ruled over by your rivalry with anyone else (i.e. to 'win' something only because someone else has it). So expressing it will create love as you "rule over yourself" and refrain from grabbing other people's possessions/fame - not by denying yourself sexually, but by knowing truly what makes you tick. If you want a lot or very little, no matter. No slut-shaming exists in true love. When I first experienced the suggestion of sex in my teens (between those men who were "best friends" in that special way) I felt my Lightbody activating - that most "excellent" part of myself - what the ancients called the God. I never ever forgot that moment. And it was about me too, as a tomboy I have a lot of masculine energy so my connection to my Soul Mate resembles the gay stuff closely (but also because of this closeness, I totally understand that we are not the same, that each thing exists on its own terms). Someone very special once told me (when I was struggling with the idea of sex in love): "Stop arguing with yourself against your will, and just communicate how you want to." Very wise. In conclusion, there is no sexual obligation you are under, but just don't be manipulated out of intimacy by ancient folk with silly fear-based ideas. "The lies my Jedi teacher told me" is a very cool article on this topic... I will also quote a gay guy Adam Lambert because, through his vision, that ancient manipulation is becoming more and more clear to me. Those Greek guys weren't ALL gay for real, but they tried to use gayness as a vessel for passing down ideology (power) and that's why things got messed up. "This is me asking un woke straight folks to recognize that being Queer is a lot more than just the act of sex itself. Surely u get that? There are actually members of the LGBTQ community that may need the same reminder. Lol. All this being said, I’m a big proponent of queer sex. It’s really fun. Even better when there’s real Intimacy. ….and if that makes you uncomfortable, you’re too sensitive and/Or you’re *supporting a double standard*."
This video touch me deep in my Heart and soul every time I watch it 😭😭. I should stop, it will become masochism lol ! Because they can be together in death but not in life 😭, so sad. I almost start crying 😭.. great video ! 👍 😭😭 Still, always appart...Why ?? So sad..😢. Alexander+Hephaistion=True Love Beautiful message of love ❤!
Oh but don't worry. They were together in life too 🩵. They were best friends and companions from childhood till Hephaestion's death, and Alexander died just a few months later. They really were life partners, and they decided to be together in the afterlife as well.
It was not the sexual passion which held Alexander and Hephaistion together. It was the deepest and most honest love you can only imagine. The love and bond between them was stronger than any physical action. I wish and dream that all people would experience this kind of love in reality. How beautiful it sounds.
Curse love.. Valcans love
Wrong perspective. In deed, in ancient Greece it was encouraged, expected and very common having these types of male relationships that include sexual practice. The standard of today's friends love are way different of those from that period of time in Greece. Condemned or not by our opinions (I am not the best supporter of gay rights) this is really a historically inaccurate movie.
Gay
@@bienvvo you can fuck off then
Couldn't have said it better
These are my favourite scenes in the movie, and I like that you added subtitles. The Romeo and Juliet theme music was perfect with this video. Alexander the Great and Hephaestion are my favourite historical characters. The story of their lifelong love is forever inspiring.
We all need a hephaestion in our lives.A beautiful smart boy who was with Alexander till the end
It wasn't only sexual passion that held them together. Their love and respect for each other and their deep bond of friendship and love which they created from childhood is just so beautiful. They cared about each other more than themselves.
O scenă de înaltă calitate, performanță artistică... Câtă sensibilitate,câtă simțire adâncă și curată.... ,sigur de cea mai frumoasa și înaltă trăire !!!!
Jared Leto is really good at 6:45-7:40. There's nothing sad about the dialogue itself. It simply sounds like a man congratulating his friend before his wedding. However, it's obvious from Hephaestion's tone of voice, gestures, facial expressions, etc... that he's completely heartbroken but trying not to show it.
waterlilyqueen
Obviously. Great acting. It was a melancholy tune.their emotion was best.
Jared is excellent
This clip is so beautiful ive been revisiting it yearly since 2011
Thank you for this brilliant clip! I cry every time watching it! Their love is unbeatable, untouchable, and irreplaceable. It’s the one and only love....
Their love is pure, immortal. They have surrendered themselves to each other. Truly unmatchable love.
You've done a fabulous job of encapsulating their love story from the long and convoluted history of Alexander's conquests. I love the line: "Nobody ever defeated Alexander except Hephaestion's thighs. Pairing it with the R & J theme works very well. Thanks for all you editing work here. You've done a fine job.
I dont care wether it is true or not, the director messed up or not, alexander was bisexual or not, I just love these two together
Alexander was bisexual, as most men were in ancient Italy and Greece, as were the women.
Maybe in Celtic, Iberian, Germanic, Scythian, Brittanic etc. etc. tribes there was less of that going on, but there was definitely more freedom of sexuality in antiquity without any judgement from others. People had more important things to focus on, unlike weak ass humans do today.
True love is true love.
Not bisexual but androfilus
I would trade anything for such love , Money ,power , whatever it is it would never surpass such love, its better to die early but your loved than live a long life that doesnt feel love even once for his/her lifetime
It's important to remember while watching this that these two men were serious badasses. It's a fascinating contrast and why this movie was so good.
This is 10 minutes of total bliss! Thanks a million for this absolute masterpiece! This is beyond amazing :)
The sublime in nature of man (woman)
Antonio Farinaccio I'm sorry, I could not understand what did you mean. Can you please explain?
@@sana_the_bookaholic When you really love some one and live or follow a path together you do not realize what you had together until they are gone (dead) Only then you see that you have lived in awe and bliss. In front at such experience your heart and mind feel so hopeless and small you long for the person but know that there is nothing that one can do. Screaming, crying, distracting one self at the end nothing works. One has to "die " but it takes time
you have to renew your self change and find a place to grieve alone. No one understand you. The experience is sublime you feel small in front of the events.
Antonio Farinaccio very well said. Each and every word is absolutely right. But your reply made me cry a lot bcz I have a serious regret in life.
@@sana_the_bookaholic After the passing of a loved one is normal to feel this way. So did I, one feels that one did not say all, what we could have done better ? We go on with our life and we learn to better our self. This way by doing good to people that are there now with us we get forgiveness and acceptance from our loved one that passed away. Above all forgive your self, you are learning and improving. No one is perfect, we learn from experience.
That's how 2 best friend should, they should be like one individual.
_this is perfect. they are perfect. They’s love is perfect._
Sooo beautiful!! Bawling my eyes out now. At least they'll b together forever in the afterlife. :'D
It's real. :))))))) Trust me on this. People will say that it's just fiction and historically inaccurate... but I have been a shamanic dreamer all my life and I know that some things happen in history before their time, and one day the Vision is revealed. LOVE!
you don't know that
The time has come , My Great Alexander The Great Macedon-Greek -The Mighty Glory and Power then from Alexandria Egypt. Alexander and Hephaestion love brothers between relationships. All of them Macedon-Greek Soldiers Army to the battles are going out there Travel to Africa Egypt , Iraq Babylonia to Iran Persian War after Asia India Hindu to the End so far away.
I absolutely love the way Hephastion says "My Alexander" at 2:34. So much emotion in only two words!
I'm really glad you made this. Seeing all of these moments together really shows you the love these two share.
Perfect couple! I'm crying lol
This is so beautiful, and sad, and tender.
A true masterpiece!! :) I adore it. ❤️❤️💗
Perfect simply Perfect ike i would rather watch this that those sucky love stories ppl watch nowadays
Alexander: Sun , Hephaistion: Moon. Moon's light is because of the sun.
i think the opposite. alexander fell down and stopped shining after hephaistion died. hephaistion gave alexander light.
🙌 םאלחכסוניגם לאלסהייתה חול
אומץ מלווה לפעמים ברצון להרוג וזה אסור
אםםןדר על שר1ית נקורב🌸
אלסךנדרל
💚ו 💕מרתק מעניין כובש עם כי מנת חלקו הייתה גם צער 1/51
I can,t stop crying , so sad. I love Alexander and Hephaistion
I never tire of seeing this!! Omg I cry every time🥲❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for your memorable video. I've watched this movie five years ago and was deeply moved by it for beautifully porturated love between these two actors and I almost have forgotten that they were playing as gay lovers. Although there is no physical evidence stated that they were lovers, fiction or not, their love story is the main theme in this movie in my opinion.
Love never dies..☝️😎
I never tired about see this video, the best
All I Need Is One MAN To Be Wid To Share And Care To Love And To Be-Loved
Beautiful I love it, thanks to you I will order this movie from Amazon right now!
Pure love. I was named after Alexander
Alejando Magno y heffestion mi historia de amor de mis personajes favoritos me ha emocionado muchísimo esta historia 😭😭😭😭😢😓😥❤️♥️👨❤️👨👬
i cant even right now....i have seen this over 10 times its so beautiful! i cant even hear this song without thinking of this video
Meraviglisamente stupendo
This was AMAZING!! Wow...
Beautiful beautiful video. Thnx a lot for your work
I'm Jason aka jadog,s aka alaxder the great!! Alexander 💙🙏😇 love for afitian was and is one of the greatest love of all time! Alexander 💙 🙏😇 always be the greatest!!! One love peace and harmany to the world!! Amen!! God bless everybody 🙏! Amen!!!!
this is a true masterpiece😢
sometimes love no need words to express it...We just know and feel it...love is about to protect n give hapiness to the one u love...
Beautiful video, Thanks.
Precioso montaje, me encanta..
This is bye Far the Best video of Alexander on youtube.
I'm crying their love is so pure yet so painful......
i like this movie so much and i watch it is sad that they both died. i like both of them and they are good actors.
Thank you so much for sharing with subtitle, I'm inspiration in love of the them.
It beautiful poem. I want this will real happen in my life " Soul mate"
Omg, again.. it all comes back again, this Alexander madness and obsession and all permeating sadness :'( A highest divine love, a recognising each other among thousands of others, and recognition of your true, only friend in this life. We all want this, almost none gets... Their full-package chemistry is unbearable to watch. Need. their. kiss. in. here. badly.
Very nice video. I touched. Congratulations.
Platonic platonic ... I'm not sure.... A great and beautiful love story.
Love you both ❤️🥀😘
the music is perfect for this movie!
I’m loving this Bromance..truly rare!!
This is the best video I've seen so far of this pairing. I love it.
Красивая пара 💪🤧
OMG I can't stop crying
very beautiful - thank you
Oh my God, Im crying, its the most beautiful video about this couple :) thnxx a lot for your job and share with us.
I cried and I'm still crying ....
Alexander's wife : he needs me
Hephaistion: no he doesn't
Her: and he needs you?
ME: YES HE'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE FIVE MINUTES SHUT UP
This video makes me pray Alexander and Hephaistion.
October 1, 331 B.C. October 1, 2019 The love story of all time between Alexander and Hephaestion.
I really wish I could've seen this couple (not actors) in reality
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL TRIBUTE, CONGRATS!
hermoso tema
I cried
I cry...............!!!!
It's a Pushtoon Tribe, living in the north of Pakistan and Aghanistan, not Hephaetion tribe*.
So the correct is: " it was said later that Alixander was never defeated except by a Pushtoon Tribe." 1:50
LOL You're kidding, right? He's talking figuratively about Alexander and Hephaestion's relationship, not about some tribe that they fought
Alexander and Hephestion The greats Hidrocanoics...
OM Gosh, that was a beautiful romance between the two. I"m all choked up.
Jaredis amazing!
It's a great video,congrats! can you please tell me where did you find the exact version of this song?
imran thank you.
How do I stop crying???😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why am I crying😭😭😭 My eyes are swollen already😭
awww, so cute both of them! mistaken gay lovers!
Yes, child Alexander is adorable. Child Hephaestion is pretty cute too.
best friends forever
Its called a real love a real trust for a man who's desteny was not being stable death could any time any where caugt him.they know that but they always blindly trust each other.nd taught us that in love sex is not a part of it 1 hug 1 kiss thats it show your feelings but in realy its comming out from trust blindly.
Daaaad please dont ...gooohhh
I'm not gay but these
Great video but i have to say that the describing the relationship between Alexander and Hephaistion as homosexual is not historically proven and is actually doubted by lots of historians.
Hugo Stalla-Bourdillon true. They were greatest friends and they deeply love themselves...than is it so important if they were also lovers ( meaning sex), or not? Tradition reports that Aristotle defined them as one soul in two bodies. Isn't it enought?
It's not actually doubted by most, in fact I'd say its usually the popular assumption nowadays that they were most likely lovers. The real question I see is did that continue into adulthood or not bc while boy/boy and boy/man rls were cool, man/man rls were NOT 😂.
👍🏻👍🏻
People should have this on their tragic love stories list. It's definitely one of them.
😭😭😭
Should not have ended like this. So sad!!!! Still crying
0:46
It's a lovely musical score which I recognized as the Franco Zeffirelli, Romeo & Juliet, 1968 (when I was 14)....equally as blissful
My question is: why are ancient Greeks in Hollywood always speaking with an Irish or Scottish accent? lol... "I'll be op" :))) "If you haven't noticed, we've been sharing our culture with you all morning"
i've been looking all over the internet for the complete alexander movie that hasn't been cut from at all and my eyes bulged out and i still couldn't find them . where did u watch the full movie? there's a scene im dying to see where alexander and hephaestion hold out their matching necklaces, plus the fight scene between clietus and hephaestion and hephaestion's hurt reaction to being replaced by bagoas . argh !
dartin F
Le petit alexandre, et le grand se ressemblent vraiment!
Good observation! The three Alexanders in the film look a lot like each other 🥰
no wherry bad ..?
ouch , i need a plumber .. my eyes leak ...
Dios!!! Como me excita Jared Leto....un hombre muy Bello...como pocos.
I see that Alexander had to listen to some "Evangelical" lecture from his time too! :(( Yes, that is accurate historically - they've done their proper research. Such lectures seriously mess people up! Amusingly, I had been under the same programming in my 20s, when trying to figure out where my passion for slash came from... and at first thinking that "Sex between the men would ruin everything. Those pure feelings! Ew sex" :P (little did I know, that Greek men *themselves* theorized that gay people shouldn't have sex... because gay supposedly "doesn't really exist" as true love/partnership - very similar to the church propaganda nowadays). As a result, it's a very immature interpretation that
"It was not the sexual passion which held Alexander and Hephaistion together. It was the deepest and most honest love you can only imagine. The love and bond between them was stronger than any physical action. I wish and dream that all people would experience this kind of love in reality. How beautiful it sounds." (mel b)
Indeed, "sounds" great if you don't know, but it's not how it works. They had to *die* to be together in the way their souls wanted! Which would otherwise be unnecessary. Today we are still grasping at bits of this Vision because all the good ones die young, but it is those that live who get to change the world... so yeah. Evil bastards we are. :P
Looking closely, "Physical action" (lol!) is being unfairly relegated to a "down there" by not recognizing it's not as much physical as it is energetic (being looked down upon, from our "head-quarters") - a most pure, honest expression of connectedness and intimacy. I do experience "this kind of pure love" in reality, so I can tell you that the idea "Platonic Love is higher than other loves (for reason of asexual conduct)" is very flawed, and messed me up for a long time!! It's one thing to be asexual *to society*, but to be truly in love with a man, to recognize him as your true love, and still reject him based only on a wish to achieve "excellency" in the eyes of the collective, is fighting against yourself. Stop doing that. We should live undivided. (By the way I seriously ogle Buddhist monks... imagine that level of self-control! Yum.)
Starting with Plato, Greeks began to rewrite their older myths to divide between "higher and lower" aspects. Yet the "higher" aspect as they saw it, is not true eternity - it is merely an effect of literacy which happened in those days. It started to disconnect people from Nature and from what really matters. Such as the fact these myths had already been created out of a need in society to highlight its social imbalances. The myths are "the odd one out" (the rebels against injustice) and didn't need to be doctored. The myths tell of many examples of lovers who couldn't recognize their love as "good" and thus had to die in order to find themselves. The reality around them was indeed filled with unbridled lust, but they misapplied this thought to their relationship. (By the way lust is very interesting, as it indicates the abuse that you subject your own mind to, which lust arrives to balance out in the end.)
As far as I got from the movie and mythological studies, Alexander then made it his goal to "protect" his lover Hephaestion from all the "darker aspects" (sexual passion) he imagined would not be "conducive to excellency" or would put undue pressure on his friend. This is a very common problem. And in many cases, a tragedy.
Sexuality (in its true sense) is what creates love in the world, not the other way around. Sexuality is the purest thing you have inside yourself, the one thing which is not ruled over by your rivalry with anyone else (i.e. to 'win' something only because someone else has it). So expressing it will create love as you "rule over yourself" and refrain from grabbing other people's possessions/fame - not by denying yourself sexually, but by knowing truly what makes you tick. If you want a lot or very little, no matter. No slut-shaming exists in true love.
When I first experienced the suggestion of sex in my teens (between those men who were "best friends" in that special way) I felt my Lightbody activating - that most "excellent" part of myself - what the ancients called the God. I never ever forgot that moment. And it was about me too, as a tomboy I have a lot of masculine energy so my connection to my Soul Mate resembles the gay stuff closely (but also because of this closeness, I totally understand that we are not the same, that each thing exists on its own terms). Someone very special once told me (when I was struggling with the idea of sex in love): "Stop arguing with yourself against your will, and just communicate how you want to." Very wise.
In conclusion, there is no sexual obligation you are under, but just don't be manipulated out of intimacy by ancient folk with silly fear-based ideas. "The lies my Jedi teacher told me" is a very cool article on this topic...
I will also quote a gay guy Adam Lambert because, through his vision, that ancient manipulation is becoming more and more clear to me. Those Greek guys weren't ALL gay for real, but they tried to use gayness as a vessel for passing down ideology (power) and that's why things got messed up.
"This is me asking un woke straight folks to recognize that being Queer is a lot more than just the act of sex itself. Surely u get that? There are actually members of the LGBTQ community that may need the same reminder. Lol.
All this being said, I’m a big proponent of queer sex. It’s really fun. Even better when there’s real Intimacy.
….and if that makes you uncomfortable, you’re too sensitive and/Or you’re *supporting a double standard*."
Just one thing is there such a thing as 'platonic lovers?' after all 'lovers' connotes sexual intimacy..........
and most scholars believe they were intimate companions.
Babylonia a sin city. In history
This video touch me deep in my Heart and soul every time I watch it 😭😭. I should stop, it will become masochism lol ! Because they can be together in death but not in life 😭, so sad. I almost start crying 😭.. great video ! 👍
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Still, always appart...Why ?? So sad..😢. Alexander+Hephaistion=True Love
Beautiful message of love ❤!
Oh but don't worry. They were together in life too 🩵. They were best friends and companions from childhood till Hephaestion's death, and Alexander died just a few months later. They really were life partners, and they decided to be together in the afterlife as well.
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Call Me By Your Name and I’ll Call You By Mine
Is that Jared Leto
The one and only
I love that movie, Alexander the Gay...
*Just kidding people, I want to express my respect and support for all kind of gender identity.*
spartacus is the sexual not skandar