Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) movie review - Sneak Previews with Roger Ebert & Gene Siskel

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  • This is the original review of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan by Siskel & Ebert on "Sneak Previews" in 1982. All of the segments pertaining to the movie have been included.

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  • @webslinger48
    @webslinger48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Nicholas Meyer said directing Ricardo Montalban as Khan was like driving a Lamborghini -- he was so responsive to direction and instinctive that just the merest suggestion and Montalban would take it and make it ten times better than written. Benedict Cumberbatch, himself a great actor, reprised the role years later but he was out of his league -- Mr Montalban was truly a giant and he made the role his forever.

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      he tasks me, he tasks me..

    • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
      @davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He made the leather truly Corinthian.

    • @DanK123
      @DanK123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can't compare Montalban and Benedict. Not because one is a better actor than the other. Montalban was an excellent actor as is Cumberbatch. But he wasn't trying to emulate Montalban....he was doing his own new thing. No reason to compare or diss Benedict whatsoever.

  • @tomservo5007
    @tomservo5007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    my first Star Trek movie in the theaters, at the age of 6 in 82 --- wonderful memories, love you Dad

    • @ashleighelizabeth5916
      @ashleighelizabeth5916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was 10 and saw it with a group of friends. I thought it was great then I think it's even better now.

    • @jeffmyersmusic
      @jeffmyersmusic ปีที่แล้ว

      I was probably 5 and boy was the ear creature scene terrifying

  • @cheddarcheese7928
    @cheddarcheese7928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1st time seeing a movie by myself was in 82 at 11 years old..I caught Rocky II.Then went right next store and saw ST II Wraith of Khan..One of the most AMAZING days of my life!!

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour ปีที่แล้ว

    9:00 Ebert on the phaser power - Khan wanted to damage but not destroy the Enterprise - The movie would have been over pretty quick otherwise haha

  • @marlandkennedy7747
    @marlandkennedy7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Star Trek was great🥲

  • @Dohsoda
    @Dohsoda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    The James Honer score for this film was excellent.

    • @Sensiblefool
      @Sensiblefool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Joseph I still enjoy listening to it

    • @flixsymmetry
      @flixsymmetry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally cutting his teeth for what would be a great soundtrack in Aliens

    • @Willpower-74205
      @Willpower-74205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't forget Cocoon and Apollo 13!

    • @ephraimfink9010
      @ephraimfink9010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not Jerry Goldsmith?

    • @Willpower-74205
      @Willpower-74205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Goldsmith did the themes for Treks I and V, then First Contact through Nemesis. Horner only did the themes for II and III.

  • @bozotheclown169
    @bozotheclown169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    the one trek movie that even non trekkies have to admit is goddamn amazing

    • @alexisbesson-mackain815
      @alexisbesson-mackain815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      agreed i am not a trekkie and this is one of the best science fiction films ever made

    • @jhock9171
      @jhock9171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Having never seen anything Star Trek, and despite even my particular standards to film, I think this looks pretty interesting.

    • @conantroutman76
      @conantroutman76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      bozo the clown star trek 6 is pretty awesome too

    • @yaywhewclips242
      @yaywhewclips242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thought 6 was pretty good, a mystery and conspiracy trek movie.

    • @robertwiegman1
      @robertwiegman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep...a 4 star movie if there ever was one...definitely most improved sequel of all time too :)

  • @trfesok
    @trfesok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really miss these two guys. There will never be critics like them again.

    • @trwent
      @trwent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed. My review of Siskel and Elbert is a definite thumbs up!!

  • @CR41489
    @CR41489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I believe this is the best “Star Trek” film. Nicholas Meyer did a great job and it is very satisfying for fans of the original series and new viewers.

    • @Lightningrod75
      @Lightningrod75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As much as I love IV, I agree. this is the best Star Trek has to offer.

    • @ernestolombardo5811
      @ernestolombardo5811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This and "The Undiscovered Country", no accident they're both the ones directed by Nicholas Meyer.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lightningrod75 I will make a bigger case for IV, as it is closer to the heart of Star Trek. Perhaps a bit more blatant with its message, but Star Trek wasn't always known for subtlety. But it had no need for a villain, even the Alien Probe was treated not so much like an enemy to defeat, but a mystery to be understood and communicated with. Every cast member was given something important to do, other than just "course laid in, Captain" and "hailing frequencies open", and there was probably the most heart of any Trek film.
      Wrath was definitely a great film, but I argue it may not be the best "Trek". Shatner didn't even really play Kirk for most of it, he was more like Pike. A better character, sure, but not true to who he was.
      I fear Wrath of Khan is put on too high a pedestal, and it makes bean counters at Hollywood think what we want most is ships shooting each other and a bad guy obsessed with revenge... and what did we get for the last three films? ... yep. Star Trek needs more lighthearted fun adventure with an important message to tell.

    • @mikerosoft1009
      @mikerosoft1009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@k1productions87 I'm curious, how was he more like Pike in it?

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikerosoft1009 Mostly in his unsurity. Decisions becoming too much for him, and contemplating retirement as a result. In fact, the scene with McCoy and Kirk at his apartment is practically straight off Boyce and Pike in his quarters in The Cage. When Carol questions Kirk about how he's feeling, he mentions "my life that could have been, and wasn't", shoot that is basically an entire plot point from the Cage.
      Meanwhile in the previous movie, you have a far more true-to-character representation of Kirk aging. Still gung ho and putting himself in the action, despite being out of touch with the current technology, and refusing to acknowledge the fact that maybe he just doesn't have it anymore. That SHOULD have been a far more prominent story element in TMP than Decker and Ilia... but coulda, woulda, shoulda. It was still far truer to Kirk's character than wearing charming little glasses, having an antique collection, and needing a tranquilizer while being on a moving starship.

  • @randyspears9827
    @randyspears9827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I was able to watch this movie last year at a local theater hosted by none other than William Shatner himself. What a treat. This is the best Star Trek movie by far and I would put up against any Star Wars movie.

    • @markallen2984
      @markallen2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There are only two good Star Wars movies

    • @randyspears9827
      @randyspears9827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@markallen2984 A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. At least those are the two I think are good.

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randyspears9827 Those are the only two great Star Wars movies. Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith are good movies, but not great. The rest suck!

    • @TheChadTI
      @TheChadTI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@markallen2984Yes.

    • @jonathanswift2251
      @jonathanswift2251 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@markallen2984 The Last Jedi and the Rise of Skywalker?

  • @robertwiegman1
    @robertwiegman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    James Horner deserves ALOT of credit too, RIP.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely. The one thing I wish they had for Voyage Home was James Horner returning to compose it, instead of the soundtrack that sounded like it belonged in Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings

    • @robertwiegman1
      @robertwiegman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      K1productions Leonard rosenman did good drama scores for movies like Rebel Without a Cause but sci th wasn't his bag :)

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertwiegman1 There are a couple good tracks in there, and it did lend to the far more lighthearted nature of that film, and even the more mysterious theme during the probe segments worked well enough. But overall... Voyage Home shares the spot with Generations for the only Trek soundtracks I have no desire to own.

    • @samuelstephens6163
      @samuelstephens6163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen

    • @JBuddis
      @JBuddis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@k1productions87 Yeah, particularly as that is the last part of what is effectively a self-contained trilogy. Horner was asked to return, but with Aliens that same year, he turned Star Trek down since he didn't want to get typecast as a sci-fi composer.

  • @slimpickens7480
    @slimpickens7480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    That opening for wttw Chicago is one of the most profoundly early eighties things ever.

    • @ghostofpambo6266
      @ghostofpambo6266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good times. I miss them.

    • @sarcasticstartrek7719
      @sarcasticstartrek7719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      70s.

    • @brockbaby
      @brockbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was in awe as it unfolded. No CGI. A painting and analog tech combined.

    • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
      @davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The malfunctioning cup dispenser was probably not a trick. That really did happen a lot with drink vending machines back in the day.

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Saw this at the theater in '82. Haven't really watched it in decades, but these clips reminded me how solid it is.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though... one of the clips lifted wholesale from The Motion Picture, just with a different soundtrack

    • @RollingOrmond
      @RollingOrmond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jeez, man, get basic cable sometime.

    • @notyou8716
      @notyou8716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@k1productions87 It's called "stock footage" and plenty of films do it.

    • @notyou8716
      @notyou8716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give it a watch. It's time well-spent.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notyou8716 Correction, plenty of TV shows do it. Not films. Worse, when a supposed film critic acts like "wow, this looks amazing" and doesn't realize it is stock footage from a previous film.

  • @Troubleshooter125
    @Troubleshooter125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    A few clicks short of 40 years since _Wrath of Khan_ was made, and it remains *THE **_BEST_** STAR TREK FILM ... EVER!!!*

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apart from Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness of course. Wow. Now THERE are a couple of solid Star Trek films.

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Big Cat Little Lion Funnily enough, when I first saw Star Trek 2009, that opening sequence with GEORGE Kirk (before I knew it was Jim Kirk's dad) I thought YES! YES! THEY'VE FOUND THE PERFECT JIM KIRK! But no, he died and that was Jim's dad, and we ended up with Chris Pine instead of Chris Hemsworth. But I thought Pine was fine. A little too tall, not as Shatner-looking as Hemsworth, but... fine. Just fine. I really enjoyed the films though, no matter how badly they were written! (The original TOS movies had their silly moments too, trust me :D)

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ryans756 They are solid all right. Solid, hard, turds. Especially the latter.

    • @samuelbarber6177
      @samuelbarber6177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryans756 eh, while I wouldn’t Star Trek ‘09 or Into Darkness are up there with Wrath of Kahn, they’re still better than Star Trek 1, 5, 9 or 10 in my opinion... not like being better than The Final Frontier or Insurrection is much of a feet.

  • @CeeLiberty
    @CeeLiberty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Star Trek II is on my TOP TEN all time favorite movies! It had everything!
    I never tire of it...and the music! Fabulous!

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! Hubby and I watch it every year, throwing lines back and forth between us as Kirk and Spock, respectively.

  • @TomKaren94
    @TomKaren94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    When I saw this for the first time when it was just released in the theaters, it was one of the greatest film experiences I ever had. While the credits were rolling, the theater was filled with people who were either crying or angry at the ending. The long-time Trek fans were in shock.

    • @kevinthetruckdriver353
      @kevinthetruckdriver353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not me. Trekkers or Trekkies *all knew Leonard Nimoy hated playing Spock.* And wanted out. Then he saw how good *Wrath of Kahn* was & it opened the door for him to comeback for *Search of Spock* as a director. That opened up for *The Voyage Home* as a director again.
      Why, *besides a paycheck,* Nimoy came back for *Into Darkness* (Bad Robot's Kelvin universe) is beyond me. A blatant *VERY POOR REIMAGINING* of *Wrath of Kahn.*

    • @PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
      @PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kevinthetruckdriver353 Ah, Into Darkness, the second worst Star Trek film after Nemesis. I mean, at least Final Frontier had some original ideas. Nimoy appearing on that was my most depressing cinema experience of that year. I mean, why would they even think of phoning up Spock to ask? Do they do that for everyone they meet? Also wasn't the entire thing that Khan was only crazy because he lost his wife on account of Kirk's neglect, and no longer the same man that Kirk had reasoned with before? That never happened in the Kelvin universe, so why aaaaaaaargh...

    • @kevinthetruckdriver353
      @kevinthetruckdriver353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures - What put me over the edge was the Tribbles. They ripped off the best Trek movie. Then ripped off one of the best ST:OS episode. Surprise they didn't throw in Harry Mudd. Even Q or the Borg from ST:TNG for good measures.
      To me, Nemesis was 50 times better than Insurrection (my second worst Star Trek film). And a tiny better than The Final Frontier. But Into Darkness IS THE WORST TREK FILM. Seen it only one time & hated it half way through.

    • @joshb20101
      @joshb20101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinthetruckdriver353 won't watch into darkness

  • @tinderbox218
    @tinderbox218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As with "The Empire Strikes Back" for the Star Wars saga, "Wrath of Khan" was the best of the Star Trek universe.

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Of course they both loved Wrath of Khan!! It's the pinnacle of Star Trek movies. Nothing even comes close. And yes, James Horner made this movie what it is!

  • @gordondavis6168
    @gordondavis6168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The excitement and fun is not that Saavik is flying the enterprise in a straight line out of space dock, but from the characters. We see Kirk’s love of his prior ship, and we see Spock being playful and needling Kirk. The fun and enjoyment comes not from special effects, but from the interplay of characters.

    • @kevinbrown4073
      @kevinbrown4073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe we call that plot trumping special effects

    • @toddjh
      @toddjh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And Bones bringing the sass!

    • @PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
      @PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ahh, remember when scifi films clocked in at a brisk run-time, but still had plenty of character moments and room to breathe?

    • @brinsonharris9816
      @brinsonharris9816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      toddjh Would you like a tranquilizer?

    • @nutmilk
      @nutmilk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does Spock call her "Mister" Saavik? 3:19

  • @robertwiegman1
    @robertwiegman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Yep, excellent movie...Best star trek by far, and most improved sequel ever made :)

  • @adamw116
    @adamw116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    What's so incredible is that Ricardo Montalban and the writers took a small obscure character from a 60s Star Trek episode and made it iconic. Montalban also showed that he had range and could play a character which was the total opposite of the character on the tv show he was playing at the time Fantasy Island.
    .

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Obsecure ? I wasn't around in the late 70s or early 80s but at the time, was Khan not regarded as one the most venerable Star Trek antagonists ?

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And Ricardo Montalbán buffed up for the role, too.

    • @metalmugen
      @metalmugen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ricardocantoral7672 if I recall correctly Space Seed is considered one of the best Star Trek episodes.

    • @OpenMawProductions
      @OpenMawProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@metalmugen Yeah. The thing with Space Seed is a lot of local TV stations around the country would play that episode A LOT. Along with Trouble with Tribbles. So, Khan, by cultural exposure, was given a lot of attention. He was pretty well known to TV audiences because of the syndication. Which is why the film doesn't feel the need to bog itself down with 20 minutes of explination on his backstory. They give you just enough as a general viewer to get up to speed. They don't delve into the nuances of Marla.

    • @OpenMawProductions
      @OpenMawProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@reneedennis2011 Nah, Montalban was always a tough cookie. He worked out on the regular. He was a huge stage performer and often played larger than life characters. He stayed in excellent physical shape his whole life.

  • @yaywhewclips242
    @yaywhewclips242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "BURIED ALIVE!!!!!!!" "KHAN!!!!!!!!!!" Montelbon was very good here.

    • @anaperez5442
      @anaperez5442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ricardo Montalban was given the chance to really flesh out the character of Khan.
      In the Original Series he was a one-dimensional "baddie" but no here.

    • @kerrysmith1899
      @kerrysmith1899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anaperez5442 He and Shatner took turns chewing up the scenery. For years I thought of it as over acting. Having watched Shatner enough t realize, That's how Shatner acts. The guys a genius.

  • @erich84502ify
    @erich84502ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Chrysler Cordoba with fine Corinthian Leather

  • @rburley204
    @rburley204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    1982 was a great year for movie releases. Definitely some of the best/classic sci-fi movies were released that year!

    • @johnpack2835
      @johnpack2835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think 1982 & 1984 are contenders for the best year ever for movies. Some of the best/classic sci-fi movies & other genres were released in those 2 years.

  • @sam21462
    @sam21462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    wow, this, apparently, predates thumbs.

  • @joshphillips1526
    @joshphillips1526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My parents took me to a double feature it was dragonslayer and star trek wrath of Kahn one of my favorite childhood movie memories

  • @TobeyStarburst
    @TobeyStarburst 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The best Star Trek movie.

    • @notyou8716
      @notyou8716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always will be the best Star Trek film. And it's interesting how often TWOK has been imitated and referenced to in Star Trek lore.

    • @ForceMaximus84
      @ForceMaximus84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To quote the great Admiral James T. Kirk, “Mmm-hmmm”.

    • @ThePoreproductions
      @ThePoreproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. This, First Contact, and the 2009 film.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePoreproductions First Contact was dumb and '09 was even worse.

  • @mccallosone4903
    @mccallosone4903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the mad magazine parody of ST2 was excellent too, find it, its hilarious

    • @soupful
      @soupful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How true, I have a copy and it's parody-satire is hilarious good fun.

  • @samuelstephens6163
    @samuelstephens6163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    ..."your first, best destiny..."
    What a phrase.

  • @deadairconversion
    @deadairconversion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    James Horner was the man!

  • @eeeecccc
    @eeeecccc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I went to a wedding at the director's house, he was super cool, and I loved his electric train set in the library.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool!

    • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
      @davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear the train was rigged to run on dilithium. Lemme tell ya, when that thing went to warp speed, all the air was sucked from the room.

  • @michaelperkowski641
    @michaelperkowski641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great star trek movie one of the best.

  • @CeeLiberty
    @CeeLiberty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Talk about a quality sci fi movie! A+
    Hollywood is simply not capable of this quality anymore.

  • @Mainbusfail
    @Mainbusfail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another movie where the score is the protagonist all in itself. James Horner, you are the stuff

  • @gordondavis6168
    @gordondavis6168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I like the traditional Christmas Special, “The Wreath of Khan.”

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TooCooFoYou
      @TooCooFoYou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TAB
      Or the Chinese rip-off “The Wrath of Chan”

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TooCooFoYou 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @toob1979
      @toob1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you hear? The guy who played the writer in _Misery_ is going to star in a remake.
      _The Wrath of Caan._

    • @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture
      @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember Dr. Detroit, in which the villain was known as “Mom” and at the end of the credits, they said the sequel would be called Dr. Detroit II, The Wrath of Mom.

  • @markg9178
    @markg9178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Siskel and Ebert give a good bit of the movie away with their review. If I hadn't already seen it 150 times I might be angry.

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how Siskel said Kirk left Khan stranded on an island. XD XD XD

  • @rasalghul9331
    @rasalghul9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't believe they allowed these key scenes to be shown in the Siskel and Ebert review.

    • @roykassinger6903
      @roykassinger6903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember seeing "The Merv Griffin Show" salute TWOK with Shatner and some of the other cast members as guests. They showed these same clips and at one point Merv actually said "Now I don't have to see the movie."

  • @seabassseabass8835
    @seabassseabass8835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember seeing this one in the theater. Probably the best one in the series.

  • @TheStarTrekApologist
    @TheStarTrekApologist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Best Star Trek to this day

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah, this movie hit hard when it came out -- it was fun to see it in theaters at the time. Audiences were packed and reacted really well to it.

  • @TanookiMike
    @TanookiMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "the evil 'creature' Khan...?" "marooned on an island????" What movie did Siskel watch?!

    • @RollingOrmond
      @RollingOrmond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Planet, island. whatever.

    • @xxnightopsxx
      @xxnightopsxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too much Fantasy Island, where was Tattoo "Ze plane! Ze plane!"

    • @gochem3013
      @gochem3013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Human. Not creature.

    • @robertc.1958
      @robertc.1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xxnightopsxx rotflmao! 🤣

    • @brianolson6366
      @brianolson6366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Siskel is often way off base

  • @VaughnJogVlog
    @VaughnJogVlog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s entirely reasonable for Gene to say he’s not a fan of sci-fi in 1982. Too close to some of the best entries to realize it but also not a genre taken seriously by too many then.

  • @maskedmarvyl4774
    @maskedmarvyl4774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Every time I see this scene, I think of the parody of Galaxy Quest where they took the ship out of space dock, and the ship veered to one side and scraped horribly along the side of the wall all the way....

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think Galaxy Quest is definitely one of the better Trek movies along with this one.

    • @thiscorrosion900
      @thiscorrosion900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ready for the body shop LOL!

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sashazur Agreed, absolutely!

  • @jessecappelletto5621
    @jessecappelletto5621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best Trek Movie by far in my honest opinion !!

  • @beep1955beep
    @beep1955beep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kristi Alley was HOT!!!

    • @anthonylogiudice9215
      @anthonylogiudice9215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was. She was.

    • @at1212b
      @at1212b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to please myself with that thought back in the day.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish she reprised her role in Star Trek 3 and 6.

  • @redhawkmillenium
    @redhawkmillenium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting that Gene viewed TWOK as a sort of "throwback" even in 1982. If it was a throwback then, you gotta think of how it compares to over-bloated action movies of today, which the reboot Star Trek movies sadly fell in line with.

  • @thunderstruck5484
    @thunderstruck5484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    had to look up Hanky Panky, Gene Wilder plays a architect in Chicago named Michael Jordan ,, classic

    • @toob1979
      @toob1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FREAKY. MJ was still at UNC in 1982, years before he went to the Bulls.

  • @EmmanuelGoldsteinINGSOC
    @EmmanuelGoldsteinINGSOC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirk left Khan marooned on an ISLAND? I think he is confusing it with another show Ricardo Montalban was in...

  • @jimphone
    @jimphone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The best Star Trek movie they made. Love it.

  • @beginnerguitarlessons421
    @beginnerguitarlessons421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well said...the Darth Vader of Star Trek...exactly 🌟

  • @user-dr2yz8um3d
    @user-dr2yz8um3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan is 40 years old!
    Top notch tension, cool effects, the end of life and the beginning of new one balanced beautifully
    Great memorable lines
    Definitely one of the franchise's best installments and director Nicholas Meyer saved it
    Such a miraculous performance by the late Ricardo Montalban
    Full of Shakespearean elements and lots of Moby Dick and Captain Horatio
    Amazing the filmmakers had the gall to kill off Spock and it got quite the emotional reaction from fans
    It was cool too this movie tied specifically to the 1967 tv series making Khan's motivation very clear
    Plus it left fingerprints on modern blockbusters like X2: X-Men United and Transformers 3

  • @michaelperkowski641
    @michaelperkowski641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saw this movie twice in summer 82. The second time a double feature with Disney Tron.

    • @ZenFox0
      @ZenFox0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That must have been epic.

    • @jimmybonez8928
      @jimmybonez8928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky you!!!!! Must have cost something like $2, BACK THEN!!!!!!

    • @lpadron13
      @lpadron13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What an incredible time!

  • @BigNoseDog
    @BigNoseDog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m amazed at how much this review showed from the movie. Some of it revealed major plot points. If I had seen this review as a kid before seeing the movie, I would’ve been pretty pissed.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m fairly sure the studio only provided certain clips for them to show - so it’s also probably the studio’s fault.

    • @natepeace1737
      @natepeace1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no shit right? I would have still payed to see it though.

  • @ericross441
    @ericross441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the greatest movies of all time. A perfect movie from start to finish

  • @_-7584
    @_-7584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Meyer was meticulous about making everything naval... the little pitch pipe for the captain getting onboard, the uniforms were naval, everything. The ships moved slowly, the battle action was frantic and hard to control. Gene called it perfectly, it was absolutely a throwback to naval battle much like the TOS episode Balance of Terror. Star Trek should never be in competition with Star Wars because it's a completely different type of science fiction, and Meyer fully understood how to put that on the big screen. If you can make Gene Siskel like your scifi you nailed it.

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars is that Trek is science fiction. Star Wars is science fantasy.

  • @FireDude13
    @FireDude13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know... I know... everyone else has already said it. But having seen all the Star Trek and Star Wars movies in the theaters when first released... this is by far the best Star Trek movie ever. The scene with Chekov and Captain Terrell when Khan first reveals himself by slowly removing his gear... just chilling! To this day I still get chills down my spine every time I see that scene! Still holds up today.

    • @thiscorrosion900
      @thiscorrosion900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terrell starts sweating his ass off, and so do I! LOL So sick. Once they see that tank it's fucked up.

  • @soupful
    @soupful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this Trek movie the best but boy did Paramount make a huge mistake dropping Kirstie Alley for Saavik in Trek III. She became a huge star on television and the movies.

    • @jetuber
      @jetuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why did they drop her?

    • @neohermitist
      @neohermitist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jetuber she wanted too much money

    • @ForceMaximus84
      @ForceMaximus84 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, she got greedy.

  • @freddyfurrah3789
    @freddyfurrah3789 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This and Rocy 3 were the two best movies of 1982. 1982 was the last year i had my father whole. Dad had a brain tumor removed in 83 and hung on for two years. He was my ROCK.

  • @demondad285
    @demondad285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We didn't care about spoilers in the 80's did we!

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ⌚😲 *KHAAAN!*

    • @jewzor8137
      @jewzor8137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that all started with Star Wars...Vader being Luke Skywalker's real father. Probably the biggest spoiler at the time.

    • @OuterGalaxyLounge
      @OuterGalaxyLounge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't.

    • @TobeyStarburst
      @TobeyStarburst 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody did.

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer8989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you had HBO in the 80s, you watched The Wrath of Khan whether you wanted to or not

  • @Willpower-74205
    @Willpower-74205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have to agree with Siskel & Ebert here. Two 👍👍 up!

  • @jbshaka653
    @jbshaka653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Star Trek but it always gets me when a spaceship is under attack they show fallen or falling beams. That is, a beam which has fallen out of a ceiling as if it were attached at the ends only. No modern ship or airplane has "beams" that are are not continuously supported, mounted or attached. I doubt spaceships will either. Also hanging wires and sparks?

  • @RollingOrmond
    @RollingOrmond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely better than the '79 film; they spent a half-hour just circling the ship!

    • @ZA1US
      @ZA1US 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exaggeration...it was "only" five minutes... ☺

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pacing was sluggish but judging the experience overall, I believe The Motion Picture the best Star Trek film. I love the atmosphere, the sense of the awe, the desire to venture into the unknown, and the fact that the entire affair concludes on an ambiguous note. V'ger departs the third dimension to evolve into something that we don't really comprehend. That's what Trek is about. Going an adventure and learning. Sans The Final Frontier, The subsequent TOS films are good but they aimed low by comparison.

    • @vinnygi
      @vinnygi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Star Trek: The Motionless Picture

  • @KMJRoche11
    @KMJRoche11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why aren't they debating if it takes place in San Francisco or not?

  • @mattwalker5129
    @mattwalker5129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh, how I miss these guys...

  • @UnleashthePhury
    @UnleashthePhury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People complaining about the amount of the movie being shown… the internet wasn’t a thing.
    You couldn’t just find this. You had to be watching it in real time, or you missed it. I don’t even think most households would’ve had a VCR to record it.
    So they could get away with showing more of the movie, since all it does is show the audience what sort of time they’re in for.

  • @xunit62
    @xunit62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ham was flying between Shatner and Montoban! GREAT MOVIE!😎

  • @stephenkissane4268
    @stephenkissane4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first one isn't bad at all but this is the better movie

  • @billfinn5373
    @billfinn5373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Siskel says Trek 1 was worthless and how much better Trek 2 is. He then shows a clip from Trek 2 to prove his point. He points to the Enterprise leaving on it's voyage and how "majestic" that scene is. Suprise!... that is footage from the aforementioned Star Trek 1 that they just reused for 2.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe that was a clever joke on his part? i wouldnt put it past a film critic to put a joke at thier expense and comment subtly on thier viewers with something like that who they must work to please at all times and more

    • @notworthyourtime9799
      @notworthyourtime9799 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Film review shows for new movies are always somewhat constrained, because they can only show whatever footage was provided to them by the studio that made the film. Maybe that's just what they had to show.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's much shorter.

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Siskel is a fraud.

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Clay3613 AND it had James Horner's soundtrack as well...

  • @colestarman1504
    @colestarman1504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This review is spot on. Wonderful!

  • @kevarosenberg8339
    @kevarosenberg8339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1982 is possibly the best ever year for movies!!

  • @gordondavis6168
    @gordondavis6168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such a good movie, JJ hack Abrams had to spend 200 million dollars to remake it 30 years later.

  • @citygirl5705
    @citygirl5705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the little groan Ebert does when Siskel says he was never a fan of the TV show.

  • @delavalmilker
    @delavalmilker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the few movie sequels that is MUCH better than than the first.

  • @scottfrenz
    @scottfrenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for these uploads! It's great to watch these older reviews

  • @Agent-xn1hr
    @Agent-xn1hr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Living in the Chicago area I looked forward to seeing Sneak Previews and followed the show when it changed to Siskle and Ebert. And before Sneak Previews it was Coming Soon to a Theatre near you and was broadcast on the local PBS station. Good times

    • @trwent
      @trwent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, after Sneak Previews I think it was called At The Movies.

  • @NateGerardRealEstateTeam
    @NateGerardRealEstateTeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A few years back I greatly enjoyed watching this movie again with my kids. At age 13 when I first saw it I was quite sad at the ending.

  • @ryans756
    @ryans756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    04:32 - Marooned on an island. Lmao. Shows how much attention Siskel actually paid to the movies he watched. It was a planet/moon. Not an island. At least he got the "deserted" part right.

    • @pts5217
      @pts5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In his defense, it was probably a matter of him being used to the whole deserted island thing and misspeaking. Siskel was very bright, but had speech impediments

  • @chandlerwhite8302
    @chandlerwhite8302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, this is old school from when Siskel and Ebert were on PBS in Chicago! Awesome to see.

  • @CeeLiberty
    @CeeLiberty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marvel, DC, and modern Star Wars all take a back seat (and often a trip to the dumpster) to this fantastic movie! Watch it again and be amazed at what Hollywood used to be capable of.

    • @npatil85
      @npatil85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed

  • @sherbournesubwaymess
    @sherbournesubwaymess ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember seeing it opening night 1982. There actually was an intermission halfway in the movie!
    I knew zero about this film except that I wanted to see it. I was completely blown away.
    1982 was also the same year we got a VHS player and it seemed like every film was better than
    the next: Blade Runner, The Thing, E.T., Road Warrior II, Poltergeist.
    What an amazing decade the 80s. Started with Indiana Jones and ended with Silence of the Lambs.

    • @robertwilson214
      @robertwilson214 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...road warrior2?

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember intermissions!

    • @VFRZen
      @VFRZen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I remember the theater I attended even handed out program brochures. Definitely a magical year at the movies.

    • @sherbournesubwaymess
      @sherbournesubwaymess ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertwilson214 "road warrior2?"
      Everyone in Canada called it "Road Warrior 2" because they were fans of the first Mad Max. But the sequel was released as "The Road Warrior" and not "Mad Max 2". I think the marketing was that Mad Max wasn't well known enough in North America and releasing a 'sequel' would have been bad marketing, hence the name change.

  • @LouieLouie3
    @LouieLouie3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd rather have a beer with Ebert.

  • @DoctorPretorious616
    @DoctorPretorious616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had laugh/shake my head at Gene Siskel's description of "the evil creature Khan"---WTF???!! Khan Noonian Singh could be described as an augment, genetically engineered superhuman, dictator of the Eugenics Wars, all around badass; but "creature" is not a term I would use to describe Trek's greatest villain.

    • @chandlerwhite8302
      @chandlerwhite8302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DoctorPretorious616 But he told you in the intro, he is not a Star Trek fan. He has no idea who Khan is.

    • @DoctorPretorious616
      @DoctorPretorious616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @rvd356 The Borg are definitely the most menacing Trek antagonists, certainly as an existential threat, but since they were soulless automatons they lacked that swagger, charisma and ruthlessness that Khan had in spades.

  • @markheller197
    @markheller197 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant. Khan Stole the show The ending brought me to .....dear I say to tears.

    • @rustykuntz94
      @rustykuntz94 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark Heller I was 8 in 1982 seeing this for the first time and it was also the first time I sobbed openly in a movie. Spock was so brave at the end and William Shatner’s performance while always played over the top was subtly and genuinely done heartfelt in that scene. That simple “No” with the pained face was so emotional

    • @Willpower-74205
      @Willpower-74205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The way Kirk faltered at the end of the eulogy always gets me. Here was a guy who lost a man who was like a brother from another mother.
      Kirk (Star Trek V): "I lost a brother once." (turns to Spock) "I was lucky I got him back."

    • @toob1979
      @toob1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've watched this movie I don't know how many times, and I'm emotional every single time.

    • @zqxzqxzqx1
      @zqxzqxzqx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toob1979 Agreed. Although I no longer cry every time, I still cry sometimes. That's a powerful scene.

  • @joevecchio6988
    @joevecchio6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Obviously neither of them knew about "Space Seed"

  • @Bikeguychicago1
    @Bikeguychicago1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This intro to Sneak Previews was great, so corny and fun!

  • @stevenwatchorn9816
    @stevenwatchorn9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never quite figured out the big deal about "piloting" a ship out of spacedock, as presented in the clip shown here. As far as I can tell, you sit in the chair, say "ahead 1/4 impulse power" and it's Miller TIme. The only danger is if some psycho sits down and says "WARP 9!" and then only if the helmsman is dense enough to follow the order.
    Now, if he had asked her to take Mr. Sulu's chair, then it's a different story.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, the general rule of thumb is... you are very very careful, because its the start of a long journey, and if you break the ship at the very start of the journey... no one's ever going to forget it and it's going to ruin your career.... you screw up when the missions nearly have done because you hit an asteroid in a huge asteroid field, everyone does their best to forgive it because everyone's exhausted and there's a lot of asteroids and a lot of near misses where lots of people nearly screwed up
      but at the start where everyone's recharged, full of piss and vinegar, and you screw up just starting up the ship and gently pulling it out of dock without banging it against the docking station or another ship that is also coming in or leaving... and people are going to be pissed. it's not that it's difficult to do safely, its because on the faint chance you ruin everyone's day and the space dock or the ship, you're not going to live it down. for a long time. its that story everyone will keep telling.. let me give you a real life example of it...
      th-cam.com/video/MmQbEgUVz40/w-d-xo.html
      there is some excuse in that video, that is the end of the journey and something was wrong with the ship, but if you mess up the navigation buttons when its working at 100 percent function and everything cleared the mechanical checks and engineers have said its all in perfect condition, there's no excuses, its just your actions as the pilot that are at fault, not even the faint argument that the ship had its balance messed up by passing to close to a star or a planet that caused its sensors or systems to be out of balance, just you as the pilot.

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It the quick reactions and decisions you have to make if something unexpected happens. You can pretty say the same for piloting a vessel into a seaport.

    • @stevenwatchorn9816
      @stevenwatchorn9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Good points, but more (I think) for the pilot than the captain. And starting from rest in space dock, the chance of an immediate catastrophe requiring quick decision-making by just the captain is highly unlikely, definitely not to the level Kirk's reaction seems to make it. He's acting like she is at the controls.

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lt. Rebecca...make it so.

    • @darkwood777
      @darkwood777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point is she is an officer of the lowest rank with zero experience in doing this, She could have froze up entirely, gave silly orders, or started pushing random buttons on the captain's chair, thereby ejecting the warp core or detaching the warp nacelles. I'm sure if you were given a comparable task like taking a billion dollar attack sub from the dock to open waters with an admiral standing behind you, you would be sweating bullets.

  • @xr4ti548
    @xr4ti548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first Trek film was like a TV movie. An expensive looking one, but still slow and stodgy.

  • @TheEnzyme94
    @TheEnzyme94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a perfect Star Treck film! Saw it as a kid and has aged great!

  • @billbally4419
    @billbally4419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ricardo Montalban should of won an Oscar

    • @thewkovacs316
      @thewkovacs316 ปีที่แล้ว

      at least a nomination....but the academy hated genre films

  • @scottaznavourian5791
    @scottaznavourian5791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'Beautifully pplayed by williwm shatner' how often do u hear that?

    • @toddjh
      @toddjh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shatner really did give a great performance in this movie though! Kirk's inner conflict in the story gave him a lot more to work with. In the TV show he pretty much just had to say his lines and emote.

    • @CelestialWoodway
      @CelestialWoodway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought he was always great on Star Trek. F the haters.

    • @john-ms8gl
      @john-ms8gl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only he had directed as well!

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@john-ms8gl Shatner was not solely responsible for what happened with Star Trek V. The writer's strike occured that year, ILM was unavailable to do the special effects, and the studio demanded that the film run no more than two hours.

  • @Sashazur
    @Sashazur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KHAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!

  • @comchia4306
    @comchia4306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me and my brother wore out our VHS copy of the tale as kids. I think it was taped from HBO, and somebody had taped over the death of Peter Preston.

  • @musclesmouse
    @musclesmouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buried alive, buried alive.
    KHAAAAAAN!

  • @dnasty312
    @dnasty312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I actually like *The Motion Picture* and I feel the hate is because people were expecting a thrilling adventure like *Star Wars,* as opposed to a cerebral and occasionally trippy film like *2001*

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was too slow in many places and not well directed.

    • @DamienDrake
      @DamienDrake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Star Trek is quite slow overall and I dare say The Motion Picture was far better directed than most of the original series. I place it on par with Wrath of Khan as the best movie in the series.

    • @TobeyStarburst
      @TobeyStarburst 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love both 1 and 2.

    • @stevenwatchorn9816
      @stevenwatchorn9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TobeyStarburst Agreed!

    • @meganick4382
      @meganick4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star Trek 1 is hugely underrated and a great sci fi film, but I do think 2 is better.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't realize how ham-fisted the performances were when I was a kid.

  • @Tobio88
    @Tobio88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's show some love for Gene being dressed like Tintin. xD

  • @gterrymed
    @gterrymed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can still smell the popcorn ❤; Eric Twin Lawrence Park, Springfield, ,Pennsylvania.. I saw it twice there.

  • @citygirl5705
    @citygirl5705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think everyone agrees that Star Trek 2 is awesome and Star Trek 1 and 5 are the weakest.

  • @JasonKTerry
    @JasonKTerry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sister Susie...Brother John...
    Star Trek 2...The Wrath of Khan...