@@edoardo.middei I think the EBU needs to know there's consequences to bad decisions. They don't seem to be at all contrite about what happened so then artists at the hands of the Israeli delegation. I'd support the Netherlands withdrawing.
I think what happened for 2024 is why Iceland is probably gonna change things up. If Bashar Murad had won he would've comfortably qualified for the final (idt it would've won but probably a respectable result in the final). If your current system leads to fumbling a potential good result and instead being dead last in the semi then there's an issue. Plus there were super questionable reasons why people were voting for Hera so there's that.
it was a terrible situation: very questionable circumstances about voting for Hera; but at the same time Bashar's performance was atrocious... HE CANNOT SING. Someone did him a big disservice convincing him he could. NOT TO MENTION THE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION. It is absolutely possible to culturally appropriate things from old Western Americana; that man had not one effing tie to that area or culture, and had no business playing up being a gay stylish cowboy or whatever. As a native of Utah,and the rural area (farms, ranches) for part of my youth I was extremely offended and angry at what he did. It's just as wrong for him as it would be for me to try and dress and dance and pretend to be an ethnic Arab Palestinian
My take on the Greek NF as a Greek: I'm expecting it to be mostly ethnic pop & folk ballads, which will be interesting since before Marina most artists weren't from Greece and had a different style (or were specifically fed generic for-ESC music like Demi) and Greeks from Greece definitely primarily listen to Greek songs with folk elements (or trap, but I highly doubt a trapper would try to go to esc... would be funny if it happened though!)
As an Estonian myself, I am pretty dissapointed in there will be only a final for the Eesti Laul this year. Even more what bothers me, is that 15 are chosen by the jury, because in the last year in my opinion, the jury chosen songs were one of the weakest of the show.
They did turn out to be, yes, but that's pretty much the exception that proves the rule. What worries me more is the public wildcard vote, which could very easily get hijacked.
@@phuttyyt It's not really an exception if it has only happened once. OK, I understand there might not be enough money for semi-finals, but at least let the people choose more than 1 song for the final. Even a web-vote would be fine.
@@JoMaTo1 Yeah, it does seem imbalanced, and like I said, having just one public wildcard could skew things enormously. Since (presumably) the wildcard vote will be online, I don't know why they didn't just decide to hold online 'semi-finals': it would save money but still allow both the jury and the public to decide together who makes it to the final.
About Dora I think that deadline for submit the songs is November 15th. And I would guess that it will take place in the late February, similar as last year. I really hope that the overall quality will be a better than last year with more established artists in the competition cause it's very likely that we'll have a record number of submitted songs. About number of participating countries I'm gonna be optimistic and say 38 (confirmation of Armenia🇦🇲, Poland🇵🇱, Moldova🇲🇩, Australia🇦🇺 and THE NETHERLANDS🇳🇱). And also my big wish is that at least 1 out of 32 songs for Montesong is good enough to win the contest and brake -5 NQ streak for Montenegro🇲🇪😄😄. Cheers from Croatia🇭🇷.
The first 10 swedish artists are confirmed: Måns (winner 2015), John Lundvik (MF winner 2019), Kaliffa, Klara Hammarström, Frans (MF winner 2016), Scarlet, Arvingarna, Malou Prydz, Dolly-Style, Andreas Lundstedt (from Alcazar)
I think in belgium there will be 8 artists with multiple songs and in the final we'll see every artist with their best song? more or less the same thing as 2 years ago with gustaph
A few questions.... Who do you think should choose the 6 songs for Eurosong? Regarding semi-finals in Eurosong - Do you think there were 6 other songs in 2024 that should have made up another semi-final for Eurosong? I think there should be NO non-creative artists in Eurosong so that even if the weakest song gets chosen, they still have someone with vision and ideas.
yep i agree that creativity needs to be prioritsed. also motivation - NIL clearly didnt give a F about being there and said that in their interview. We need artists who care about the opportunity. yep i think there were 10+ songs that could have made the final which didnt, enough to fill 2-3 semi-finals
Is it true that Croatia is scrapping semis in Dora? Because it seems like many low quality songs qualified last time. For example, the popular actor who just knew someone at HRT so participated. This can’t carry on because we can’t have quality songs in reserve that don’t get a chance.
You forgot the UMK song clues that were given. Atleats the song genre variety is likely to be better than last year's "Rap" overweight. “This season, UMK will see both a great continuation of Finnish pop tradition and a star of the future, waiting for their opportunity to shine bright. We will get to witness energetic band energy, hear German language in an UMK song, dance to the beat of an epic dance banger and be moved by one of the finest ballads in UMK’s history. The line-up is crowned by a song that makes you dance and cry at the same time” One highly rumored artist (from a media person who tends to "predict" most of the artist correctly quite early) is Abreu, so there could also be Portuguese in one of the songs in addition to German. Another rumoured one is Poets of the Fall, but thats not as confident rumour.
This is just my opinion. If The EBU really wanted to mend bridges with Netherlands, they should offer them an automatic places in the final for 2025. That would mean 27 countries in the final but we had Australia being fast tracked to the final in 2015
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Estonia has the 'superfinal' but it's long since been between the top three, not the top two. Lithuania (finally) adopted this model this year as well. So you could say it's a Nordic-Baltic thing, since Iceland isn't Scandinavia either ;)
As an Australian I dont think we are coming back. I hope Im wrong but I dont think we have much money so Im going to predict that we are out again hopefully I'm wrong. Having said that they positive side to Australia dropping out is we get to vote with the rest of the world meaning we can vote whenever and I dont have to get up at 5 or 6 am to vote if I wanted to vote. I hope the EBU decides to open voting before the contest starts in participating countries soon so That I can have my cake and eat it too
Australia/SBS rarely says much in advance when there's no national final, so I don't think there's any particular reason to assume they won't be in Basel.
@@phuttyyt Money is my reason to assume they wont be in Basel. I am thinking maybe we will send someone to stand on stage and look pretty for 3 minutes to hold our spot in Eurovision for 2026 because if we drop out we may never be able to comeback. Normally I would want us to try and qualify but if we send someone to stand on stage and look pretty for 3 minutes to hold our spot in Eurovision for 2026 I wont be dissapointed. This is only for 2025 though
@@stevenwilliams3038 You don't have to compete one year in order to come back the next. Plenty of countries have taken years out for financial or other reasons and then returned.
@@phuttyyt but I reckon Australia might be different because we aren’t a full member and normally associate members aren’t invited to Eurovision. Thats why I think Australia can’t come back if we Pull out in 2025
@@stevenwilliams3038 Full and associate members alike are invited to participate each year by the EBU on a discretionary basis and irrespective of whether they took part the previous year. There's honestly no reason Australia (or anyone else) wouldn't be invited back if they sat out a year :)
i too hope songvakeppnin are scrapping the superfinal, or at least bumping it up to 3 songs instead of 2, it was so clear from the results last year that hera won because of an anti-bashar vote (no disrespect for hera but that song was not it)
I'm really bummed that the results for Azerbaijan in the last two years were this weak, because both songs were my favorite songs ever from Azerbaijan. Hoping they'll stay in this lane and just update their stagings and marketing.
@@ESCTom Oh yes I forgot that we’ve had 15 in some years anyway and it was fine. All three countries will probably participate but won’t confirm until the official announcement I don’t think.
I don't think the selection jury overlooking Baby Lasagna has a whiff of corruption, but that it's more a problem of who's picking the songs. I might be wrong, and it may seem like a gross generalisation, but it seems to me that the [south-]eastern countries tend to have a lot more older people on the panels that pick the songs for their national finals - certainly compared to countries like mine (Estonia)* - which has the potential to skew things when many of the entries are often more 'traditional/conservative' and less 'modern/innovative'. *Mind you, it can still happen here - cast your mind back to 2009, when Rändajad only made it into Eesti Laul when something else was withdrawn.
ah cmon, Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin getting in over Baby Lasagna? and there were 5-6 other songs which were hopeless. It's either corruption or total incompetency, im not sure which is worse tbh
We are not caming back in 2026 even sorry guys the public here is again ESC as a ESC fan im so sad 😢 maybe in the Future we will til then stay god have a fun goodbye from N.Macedonia
Ik hope here in Belgium we won't have the same Flemish issue again, where the staging is good to great but the song is mediocre at best. I honestly can't think of any Flemish artist I want to see at Eurovision, somehow the most popular ones make music for kids.
Mal only won that jury vote because they were paid off.. and/or threatened. It was quite the scandal that erupted.. he is NOT on the level of many of those other artists.
I would love to see AILSHA give it another shot for Ireland!
Or Brooke.
Juicy Eurovision 2025 news already! I've been feeling so lost but now i feel spoiled!
The countdown to Eurovision season has almost started! ❤
😂🥰
hope we’re getting 38. the netherlands were like the “6th big 5” in eurovision so not getting them would be horrible.
@@edoardo.middei I think the EBU needs to know there's consequences to bad decisions. They don't seem to be at all contrite about what happened so then artists at the hands of the Israeli delegation. I'd support the Netherlands withdrawing.
So excited for Nemo to show up to Basel in their final form and perform The Code again 💖💙💜
I think what happened for 2024 is why Iceland is probably gonna change things up. If Bashar Murad had won he would've comfortably qualified for the final (idt it would've won but probably a respectable result in the final). If your current system leads to fumbling a potential good result and instead being dead last in the semi then there's an issue. Plus there were super questionable reasons why people were voting for Hera so there's that.
it was a terrible situation: very questionable circumstances about voting for Hera; but at the same time Bashar's performance was atrocious... HE CANNOT SING. Someone did him a big disservice convincing him he could. NOT TO MENTION THE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION. It is absolutely possible to culturally appropriate things from old Western Americana; that man had not one effing tie to that area or culture, and had no business playing up being a gay stylish cowboy or whatever. As a native of Utah,and the rural area (farms, ranches) for part of my youth I was extremely offended and angry at what he did. It's just as wrong for him as it would be for me to try and dress and dance and pretend to be an ethnic Arab Palestinian
My take on the Greek NF as a Greek: I'm expecting it to be mostly ethnic pop & folk ballads, which will be interesting since before Marina most artists weren't from Greece and had a different style (or were specifically fed generic for-ESC music like Demi) and Greeks from Greece definitely primarily listen to Greek songs with folk elements (or trap, but I highly doubt a trapper would try to go to esc... would be funny if it happened though!)
As an Estonian myself, I am pretty dissapointed in there will be only a final for the Eesti Laul this year. Even more what bothers me, is that 15 are chosen by the jury, because in the last year in my opinion, the jury chosen songs were one of the weakest of the show.
no, not again!
They did turn out to be, yes, but that's pretty much the exception that proves the rule. What worries me more is the public wildcard vote, which could very easily get hijacked.
@@phuttyyt It's not really an exception if it has only happened once. OK, I understand there might not be enough money for semi-finals, but at least let the people choose more than 1 song for the final. Even a web-vote would be fine.
@@JoMaTo1 Yeah, it does seem imbalanced, and like I said, having just one public wildcard could skew things enormously. Since (presumably) the wildcard vote will be online, I don't know why they didn't just decide to hold online 'semi-finals': it would save money but still allow both the jury and the public to decide together who makes it to the final.
About Dora I think that deadline for submit the songs is November 15th. And I would guess that it will take place in the late February, similar as last year. I really hope that the overall quality will be a better than last year with more established artists in the competition cause it's very likely that we'll have a record number of submitted songs.
About number of participating countries I'm gonna be optimistic and say 38 (confirmation of Armenia🇦🇲, Poland🇵🇱, Moldova🇲🇩, Australia🇦🇺 and THE NETHERLANDS🇳🇱). And also my big wish is that at least 1 out of 32 songs for Montesong is good enough to win the contest and brake -5 NQ streak for Montenegro🇲🇪😄😄.
Cheers from Croatia🇭🇷.
I still want Placebo to guest at the Luxembourg finals to give the whole thing a bit of oomph.
I would love to see Monaco participating and why not, Vatican city and Andorra :)
Vatican City deffo!
I still can't handle the name of the NF being "Montesong"...
All I can think of when I hear the name are those little Monte desserts from Zott...
They used to do Montenegrosong, I'd say this is an improvement
I feel like Greece will have a more ethnic song this year too because they always chose ethnic bangers before.
The first 10 swedish artists are confirmed:
Måns (winner 2015),
John Lundvik (MF winner 2019),
Kaliffa,
Klara Hammarström,
Frans (MF winner 2016),
Scarlet,
Arvingarna,
Malou Prydz,
Dolly-Style,
Andreas Lundstedt (from Alcazar)
I'm really happy Slovenia confirmed its participation.
8:00 Not that it matters lol but why did you go with "Ver-in-ika" instead of "Slov-in-ia"
cos id already done the pun on the country name in the last video, so was trying to think of different ones
I think in belgium there will be 8 artists with multiple songs and in the final we'll see every artist with their best song? more or less the same thing as 2 years ago with gustaph
A few questions....
Who do you think should choose the 6 songs for Eurosong?
Regarding semi-finals in Eurosong - Do you think there were 6 other songs in 2024 that should have made up another semi-final for Eurosong?
I think there should be NO non-creative artists in Eurosong so that even if the weakest song gets chosen, they still have someone with vision and ideas.
yep i agree that creativity needs to be prioritsed. also motivation - NIL clearly didnt give a F about being there and said that in their interview. We need artists who care about the opportunity.
yep i think there were 10+ songs that could have made the final which didnt, enough to fill 2-3 semi-finals
7:50 Montesong songs are out around November 17th*
Yea, it seems that Eurovoix had a typo, their article said November 1st 😭
Is it true that Croatia is scrapping semis in Dora? Because it seems like many low quality songs qualified last time. For example, the popular actor who just knew someone at HRT so participated. This can’t carry on because we can’t have quality songs in reserve that don’t get a chance.
As Croatian we must send again baby lasagna..😂😅
Send a guy named "Toddler Lasagna", who looks suspiciously similar to Marko and sounds just like him for whatever reason xD
You forgot the UMK song clues that were given. Atleats the song genre variety is likely to be better than last year's "Rap" overweight.
“This season, UMK will see both a great continuation of Finnish pop tradition and a star of the future, waiting for their opportunity to shine bright. We will get to witness energetic band energy, hear German language in an UMK song, dance to the beat of an epic dance banger and be moved by one of the finest ballads in UMK’s history. The line-up is crowned by a song that makes you dance and cry at the same time”
One highly rumored artist (from a media person who tends to "predict" most of the artist correctly quite early) is Abreu, so there could also be Portuguese in one of the songs in addition to German. Another rumoured one is Poets of the Fall, but thats not as confident rumour.
Ah yes I did see that, but it looked the same as last year so I forgot about it. Might Include in the next episode instead
Come on Albania...take a risk and send something avant-garde
This is just my opinion. If The EBU really wanted to mend bridges with Netherlands, they should offer them an automatic places in the final for 2025. That would mean 27 countries in the final but we had Australia being fast tracked to the final in 2015
Are you aware of the Hello Mello that SVT is doing this autumn?
Lundvik could represent the UK, as he was born in London.
His song has represented UK...
OK TOM I just found out about this but please react to Nemo's new BANGER "Eurostar" 💞💞💞💞💞
I expected you to say something about Malta
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I’m ok with Tom, thanks 🙏🏻😅
Estonia has the 'superfinal' but it's long since been between the top three, not the top two. Lithuania (finally) adopted this model this year as well. So you could say it's a Nordic-Baltic thing, since Iceland isn't Scandinavia either ;)
As an Australian I dont think we are coming back. I hope Im wrong but I dont think we have much money so Im going to predict that we are out again hopefully I'm wrong. Having said that they positive side to Australia dropping out is we get to vote with the rest of the world meaning we can vote whenever and I dont have to get up at 5 or 6 am to vote if I wanted to vote. I hope the EBU decides to open voting before the contest starts in participating countries soon so That I can have my cake and eat it too
Australia/SBS rarely says much in advance when there's no national final, so I don't think there's any particular reason to assume they won't be in Basel.
@@phuttyyt Money is my reason to assume they wont be in Basel. I am thinking maybe we will send someone to stand on stage and look pretty for 3 minutes to hold our spot in Eurovision for 2026 because if we drop out we may never be able to comeback. Normally I would want us to try and qualify but if we send someone to stand on stage and look pretty for 3 minutes to hold our spot in Eurovision for 2026 I wont be dissapointed. This is only for 2025 though
@@stevenwilliams3038 You don't have to compete one year in order to come back the next. Plenty of countries have taken years out for financial or other reasons and then returned.
@@phuttyyt but I reckon Australia might be different because we aren’t a full member and normally associate members aren’t invited to Eurovision. Thats why I think Australia can’t come back if we Pull out in 2025
@@stevenwilliams3038 Full and associate members alike are invited to participate each year by the EBU on a discretionary basis and irrespective of whether they took part the previous year. There's honestly no reason Australia (or anyone else) wouldn't be invited back if they sat out a year :)
for Belgium, it might be 2 songs per artist in semis with one selected to the final, like in 2023...
i too hope songvakeppnin are scrapping the superfinal, or at least bumping it up to 3 songs instead of 2, it was so clear from the results last year that hera won because of an anti-bashar vote (no disrespect for hera but that song was not it)
I'm really bummed that the results for Azerbaijan in the last two years were this weak, because both songs were my favorite songs ever from Azerbaijan. Hoping they'll stay in this lane and just update their stagings and marketing.
If you look at last 3 years of UMK it's the fifth song released that wins 🙈
Aaaaaaah I didn’t see that pattern!
Malta havent confirmed yet Even the national final is not mentioned
Oh wow yea. I literally checked the list when I was doing this video and they were on it, but now the wiki page is updated and they are gone 😱
We cannot have 33 countries and 26 in the final because only 7 wouldn’t qualify. Do you think this is fair or not?
We’ve had semifinals with 15 before. Anyway, I don’t think we’ll get 33 in the end as Poland Moldova and Armenia are all very likely
@@ESCTom Oh yes I forgot that we’ve had 15 in some years anyway and it was fine. All three countries will probably participate but won’t confirm until the official announcement I don’t think.
Ver-In-Ika killed Gimlo 😂
Hello handsome :)
I would have thought Australia and the EBU would have signed another 5 year deal now.
By the way, greetings from Sydney, Australia 😘😘😘
I don't think the selection jury overlooking Baby Lasagna has a whiff of corruption, but that it's more a problem of who's picking the songs. I might be wrong, and it may seem like a gross generalisation, but it seems to me that the [south-]eastern countries tend to have a lot more older people on the panels that pick the songs for their national finals - certainly compared to countries like mine (Estonia)* - which has the potential to skew things when many of the entries are often more 'traditional/conservative' and less 'modern/innovative'.
*Mind you, it can still happen here - cast your mind back to 2009, when Rändajad only made it into Eesti Laul when something else was withdrawn.
ah cmon, Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin getting in over Baby Lasagna? and there were 5-6 other songs which were hopeless. It's either corruption or total incompetency, im not sure which is worse tbh
We are not caming back in 2026 even sorry guys the public here is again ESC as a ESC fan im so sad 😢 maybe in the Future we will til then stay god have a fun goodbye from N.Macedonia
Please no returning winners. It takes all the excitement away.
It doesn’t take the excitement away??!
Ik hope here in Belgium we won't have the same Flemish issue again, where the staging is good to great but the song is mediocre at best. I honestly can't think of any Flemish artist I want to see at Eurovision, somehow the most popular ones make music for kids.
They need to rid of Louie Walsh .
Mal only won that jury vote because they were paid off.. and/or threatened. It was quite the scandal that erupted.. he is NOT on the level of many of those other artists.
Mak song was stupid don’t know how juries voted because of his mother but I think he can’t sing