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I really don't agree David Kibbe about pure types. I see many Naturals and Gamines. (not classics they are very rare) Jennifer Aniston is a obvious Natural but now she has to be SN.That doesn't makes sense. A SN and N can look very different and ignoring pure types makes no sense. 13 type is not even enough for all women and it is 10 now.
I agree with you!
I agree with you because I'm a pure gamine.
To me he's changing stuff up to stay relevant. Like there's no way Jennifer Aniston is other type than pure natural.
@@elizabethroa6970 In my opinion, he should have expanded the number of types, instead of reducing them. I think Truth is Beauty's website, Olga's Ethereal Typology blog and, Elyssa on YT, make the most sense out of the countless variations of women or human beings that exist.
@@Crewelperleology I agree because I am some sort of romantic. Even others tell me or end up describing me in romantic but as it stands I'm too tall for any romantic category.
To me natural looks just physically powerful. Physicality dominates the visual effect
agree
Can you please talk about olive undertones? You have talked about cool. Neutral and warm undertones but not olive.
Olive tone can be cool, neutral or warm. Imo its not a 4th category
@@raygin6581 olive skin is closer to neutral whether warm/cool because of the green tone. Merriman Style is great on olive skin tone (and colour in general) in my opinion. She just uploaded something about red/green balance which was really interesting, I hadn't heard about that before.
I second this!! I can’t find any logic to the colours that suit my olive skin , and it would be so helpful to hear Aly’s analysis of it as she makes really clear observations. Beauty youtubers seem to disagree about the colour theory - some saying it’s inherently cool, inherently neutral, or a mixture of undertones, so that adds to the confusion. Olives also tend to be ignored by many Makeup brands (foundations are pink, yellow, orange, etc.), which is weird considering what a large fraction of women are olive. So a video delving into the colour theory of green skin would be so appreciated ❤️
(btw the best sources for olive skin info I’ve found is Merriam Style on TH-cam and the ‘OliveMUA’ subreddit.)
Another question that comes up is about the clear vs. muted quality of olive skin. I see a lot of women with a grey or muted green skin tone, but I feel that I am myself almost a fluorescent green and muted colours don’t suit me. How does this affect colour recommendations? So that is also an interesting topic to explore....
Isn't "olive" just another way of saying someone has less "pink" in her skin undertone? I mean, wouldn't yellow aka warm be the right color for olive skin undertone? I don't know, so please don't judge me! 😊 I've never understood what "olive" really means and why it's warm for some people and cool for others... And if it's cool, what's the difference between cool and cool olive?
Thanks for keeping the Natural type it makes so much sense..there's plenty of Pure Naturals not sure why Kibbie tried to label them all SN or FN
I don't see Mariah Carey as Soft Natural nor Flamboyant Natural. She has quite strong yin vibe but her figure is definitely pure Natural looking - blunt and bones, broad shoulders, large and wide hands and feet. At the same time I don't see drama on her.
Could you make a video about the differences between the 'tall' body types (D/SD/FN)? :)
yessssssssssssss
Yes, especially when FN are curvier and SD are thinner. They are so easily mistaken for one another. I see everyone with wide shoulders being put into FN but there are a lot of SD women with wider shoulders too. I feel like in some people they can be almost identical in their overall shape, but the bones are either more narrow or wide. Like Sofia Vergara looks almost FN in terms of overall shape but her bones are definitely more angular and narrow.
@@MartinaGiovese Sorry, FN's and SD's can't be more different. Their only similarity is height that needs to be 'accommodated', according to Kibbe. SDs are flesh/height dominant, FNs are frame/height dominant. SDs are very yin, often very lush in flesh, with distinguished definition of waist, bust and hips (often hourglasses), FN's have stronger, wider, blunter bones (frame is first thing you see, not curves) and yang flesh, which tends to be muscular, athletic or toned. They appear strong, it's body type that mostly resembles swimmer body image. Often inverted triangle, top heavy, but not with large, soft curves, rather athletic, with straight outer line (straight waist/hips) and broader shoulders and chest. What makes FN appear large is frame (blunt, wider, strong bones) and toned flesh, what makes SD appear large is lush flesh over not so prominent bone frame. When you see SD - you see curves (bust, waist, hips) first and height. When you see FN you see height and frame first.
FNs are mostly rectangular or inverted triangles, SDs are moderate to very pronounced hourglasses in most cases.
It's Raquel Welch or Anita Ekberg vs Brooke Shields or Cameron Diaz.
Can't be easier to make a difference. What makes a confusion is the fact that tall women are squeezed into 3 types only, and many young girls can't be placed into any of them - they are tall, soft and lean, but not dry and boyish (D), nor strong/athletic/straight (FN) and their curves are not lush or formed enough to fit into vintage SD image (very mature curves). So, model like soft, tall gals, like supermodels of 90's are all labeled as FNs which is not true, IMHO. They are all very well defined, soft, lean but not dry and not athletic or strong appearing. Some are FN's some are not. Just broad shoulders doesn't make anyone N. It takes more than just shoulders. My mom (165cm tall R) has wider bone frame than me (shoulders, rib cage/back, knees, wrists, ankles) and I am 13 cm taller (178cm) SD.
All these ladies are FN. It's not that difficult to spot the pattern in body outer line.
FN (frame/bones and height):
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SD (curves/soft flesh and height):
i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/8a/26/f28a265455bac57e3930cae2253cfd64.jpg
D/SD/FN:
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@Moonshine His typing is becoming rather incoherent, since he abandoned his basic principles that his system was based on over time. He now insists on something illusive such as 'Hollywood archetype' as an inspiration not individual features, which mystifies the system and makes it impossible to get practical value from (self typing) without Kibbe himself and his opinion. If Lynda Carter is FN like SJP, and J. Smith is SD, like 164 cm tall Barbra Streisand or 5'10'' Tyra Banks, the system makes no sense. At all. I also dress my 'essence', or my personality and personal sense of style - not my body type, but I've learnt how to accommodate my clothes to suit my body lines in order to make them work and look well. Most people come here in order to get practical value out of this system - to learn how to dress better for their body type or, if they know what they like and what looks good on them, how to adjust, alter ideal lines for their body type to match their personality and vibe, energy, essence, who they are as a person, since they don't have, let's say a personality to match 'bombshell' body image and have more of a classic or natural essence to them. That's where this system offers no value at all. It's mystified in order to make it look more deep than it is. Nobody, not even Kibbe can tell you who you are after few minutes spent in your company. Let alone over virtual contact. Or just a photo. He types celebs wrongly, moves them from one type to another NOT based on their bodies. People here are not dealing with archetypes and essences, they want to know how to dress their physical bodies to look good or how to make those clothes recommended for their physical bodies work for their not matching personalities as well.
@@blueice011 I read your comment above regarding the difference between SD and FN. What if l have a pear shaped body with defined waist and large hips, like double the size of the bust but have a C cup. I am 5,6. I am a SD?
Very interesting! Aly in your last video, I thought you said you were re-typing yourself and that you would tell us in an upcoming video. I am so curious as to what you now think you are. Love your channel!
@khedidja Sallah me too 😁
Same here
maybe true gamine?
@@katiechasm I was thinking that too, but then there is no more ‘pure gamine’. I think she is retyping herself to flamboyant gamine. Aly has a small, teen-like frame but she doesn’t look that short. Also her body frame looks more dry and narrow (like Audrey Hepburn or Kate Bush)...FG may be more accurate for her (eventhough her facial features may fit more with SG).
@@fatoumfatoumeh good theory
Thank you for referencing the confusion that people (like myself) have with the difference between being a Dramatic Classic or a Natural. I’ve been debating which one I am (although I’m leaning towards Dramatic Classic I think) and it would be awesome to see a video of yours going in depth into the differences between the two! Then perhaps I (along with others) can finally get ourselves figured out, haha.
Thank you for the great content, Aly! Keep it up.🌺
I have the same confussion about my body. What cleared it was that when i overweight, i do it mostly in the lower part of my body and dont get squarish in the top, and classic style lines and outfits look great in my body, they highlight my features, on the contrary natural relaxed lines and outfits make me look frumpy, shapeless and dont highlight at all my figure. Maybe look at those things
I'm also debating between these as I have a lot of natural features. Anything unfitted or loose and casual looks awful on me, as do bold sharply tailored outfits. If there was a scale with Romantic at 1, classic at 5 and Dramatic at 10 I think I would be around 6.5
That’s my question too :( im overweight and my legs are super large but I never lost my waistline and my curves
dramatic classic vs natural has been the one I've been hung up on for ages. I've never understood which one I am
Same.
Same!
Same
and the hairstyle advice is completely different.
Looks like a lot of us have this issue...
I normally get naturals and classics mixed up. Now i think i get it better.
As a natural, a lot of men compliment me in more sporty clothing, like I have a sportier essence even if I’m not into sports - I think because we appear blunt, muscular, and heavier.
Thisss, one time a guy even asked me if I work out (I don’t) 💀
Oh me too! I'm not into sports but I work out a lot. Athletic wear looks so right on me. Too bad I like business casual.
Same
This is so true. Im N and overweight but daaayym I look like I workout 6 times a week 😂
This is why I love ballet/dance and yoga wear. Very natural but not like Nike store
Thank you for this video! I'm still pretty convinced that I'm Soft Natural. My bone structure is just so broad. Broad ribcage, broad shoulders, feet, etc. But I still have a lot of softness in me and I am petite with a baby face. I dress a bit more like a Classic, I guess, but I think it suits me and my personality very well. Like a balanced, preppy, traditional, feminine frilly style in Soft Summer colours (because that's my colouring).
Please do the difference between soft dramatic and flamboyant natural! I am either an unusually curvy flamboyant natural or a slightly more muscular soft dramatic. But I definitely need waist definition or I look bad, which makes me lean to soft dramatic. My face is definitely not blunt in the way that natural faces are supposed to be .... Still I'm confused! X
I clicked on your profile picture to perhaps get some clues, even though typing from only the face is bad, but I could see what you mean. I'm a little confused and can't tell even by face alone what I'd type you as.
@@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 I click on her video and I say flamboyant natural.
@lucy elston straight lines do not look good on flamboyant naturals. They need draping and sweeping lines around the waist. Look up waist draping.
@@MalikahJ I agree from the video I look more like that but what about in this pic...
www.dropbox.com/s/ghjwjcewz03vn5p/Screenshot_20201025-190656.png?dl=0
I also clicked on your video and I agree: flamboyant natural. Beautiful voice by the way!
I think I have the face of a Soft Classic and the body of a Soft Natural. I would love a video about what to do if you're in between two types.
This is so helpful! Im 99% sure that im dramatic classic, but i was a bit torned in the beggining between dc and the natural/soft natural type (specially because of the kibbe test). But the test is only a guide, a lot of other factors point in the direction of dc: i overweight in the lower part of my body and dont get square in the top, i look great in classic lines and outfits and really frumpy, dishevelled and loose my shape in relaxed, boho outfits. Knowing this has helped me a lot when making decision about my wardrobe
Your videos have really opened my eyes to personal beauty and cool facts!! Thanks for taking time to make videos
Same. I'd never thought I'd one day look in the mirror and be actually happy about what I see. I owe this to Aly!
I now really love my soft natural features! It's a perfect mixture of yin and yang. 😊 I love that I'm composed of "strong" and "soft" features. It's too lovely and suits my personality so well. 🤗
With Kibbe, romantic is a circle, dramatic is a triangle, natural is a square, and classic is an oval.
Thanks to this video I finally understood the difference between Natural und Classic type - I simply could not figure it out for myself😁 My facial features are more rounded and regular compared to my my body which seems to be normal/ classical proportionated but with wider bones& kind of athletic. Now I finally know that I am a Natural/ soft Natural😊 Thank you Aly🤗
I really see the difference! Nice breakdown and comparison of these types and visuals.
I still haven't figured out if I'm N and DC because I need clean lines and look awful in draping, yet my frame is rather broad. More of it, please.
DC can have slightly broad shoulders too. I do and I'm a DC.
Google Courtney Cox(DC) and Jennifer Aniston( N) bodies. The difference is muscle. Naturals are, for lack of better words toned un-intentionally top to bottem( DC) are leaner.
@@AutumnBRreeze It is true but super toned jennifer aniston is no good example for average looking natural women with normal or a bit more weight. Many do not look that sporty. Same with Tilda Swinton as s super pure D but when people see here nobody thinks they look like her and get unsure and confused.
This one is the most confusing to me, natural vs others
I’m a natural. Think about inverted triangle shaped women, but not tall ones. They would be flamboyant natural. We have muscles. Often, it’s women with great legs, their width is carried in the mid section and shoulders.
Look at the shoulders.. Naturals have the width, with broader square look..thats my cheat code SHOULDERS...
@@AutumnBRreeze i have wider shoulders it makes me insecure
I think of Naturals as looking sporty, athletic. Look like they have more upper body strength.
@@lh1053 so pear shape could not fall into natural category right? I’m stuck between DC and SN.
I thought I was classic for a while but i realized I am a 5’ 2” SN (which makes me feel so lucky! I love the effortless chic vibe) My boss is a classic, she rocks her lines like no other and I was observing her hands for example and realized how long mine are compared to hers and we are the same height! I also noticed that I just had to do weights once a week and my back and shoulders grew a LOT. Also am interesting observation about being SN is that when I use the Natural Lines, I look taller and slimmer. Tight clothing makes me look a bit more thick and squarish, which is completely the opposite for the more romantic types!
This is so cool! ❤️ glad you’re sharing your situation because it’s really neat to see people loving themselves
Im SN and decided to take advantage of my muscular benefits by lifting weights recently; MY UPPER MUSCLES GREW SO FAST, In a WEEK THEY WERE BULGING so I definitely feel you sister....and hobo shieek clothes are my LIFE my fave, everything looks always perfect on my body, and I look best w/ little to no make-up.
Nicole Smith aw thanks!❤️
Constructive Alignment Right on! I have to scale back on weights because of how easy is to get buffed! 🤣 Hobo is my life too!
I'm 5'3 and I think I'm SN too! Maybe N. I look athletic or "ropy" but not very solid if that makes sense. But I'm certainly not dramatic, classic or gamine LOL so I must be Natural something.
Wow! This helped me realize I am definitely a natural of some sort. The comparison is such a great way to learn and comprehend each body type. Thank you for these videos!
I wish you had expanded more on Naturals versus Soft Naturals. Most people call Selena Gomez a SN, so now I‘m surprised! And yes, Gamines and Naturals are easy to confuse when overweight imo.
Wow I really got more understanding. I thought I was soft natural but maybe I am dramatic classic. Look forward to your draping video to find out more. I do feel slightly untidy in my clothes, but I’m not sure if it is because I have not embraced my essence. OOh it can be confusing.
I feel like the most confusing types are Soft Natural and Soft Gamine. I find very difficult sometimes to tell the difference in real life because it's like "okay, she is soft but doesn't look romantic to me". But you are so right in one trick: just try the lines of both bodytypes and see hoy do you feel more like yourself.
I relate to the soft natural vibe and soft blunt bones /flesh the most but I have some gamine and some soft classic, or something! I really think its why I had a hard time finding my "type"...just an odd bod! But I have a much better understanding after watching Aly's videos many times over, and feel like I understand my body now! I use soft natural as a base and use certain 'rules' and getting dressed in a way that suits me is easier now. Thanks aly:)
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I am rewatching this and make me realize why I struggled between SN and C.
Please compare Shakira and jlo as naturals.
I have a pear shape which really confuse me with Kibbe🤦♀️ my bones are broad but defined waist and flat, skinny chest!
Please help Aly 💙
Does age play a part? Aniston, back in Friends Season 7, was wearing a lot of dramatic-classic clothes (clean lines, bit of a style edge) and looked amazing. I don't think she'd look right in them now.
only in terms that being under 25 is too early for typing because many are not fully grown in their body before and many still carry some babyfat. Anistion is simply such a beautiful women who can get aways with much.
Thank you, Aly! This helped confirm that I am a natural. I’m still confused about whether or not I’m a natural or a soft natural, but this video helped narrow it down. I love your videos and feel like I’m starting to get it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 😊
Can you please do a hair video on warm delicate skin tone and natural body type? I would love to see what color hair would work best with these two qualities.
Please do a video on jeans for the body types, but especially flamboyant gamine. I don’t hear many people mention fashion choices for flamboyant gamines.
Now I have started to see a little bit of distinction. Earlier I was just confused. Great information. Waiting eagerly for the next one.
naturals couild be gladiators, flamboyant naturals could be amazons (like wonder woman) and soft naturals could be greek goddesses. i don´t know, it´s just the vibe i get of them :D
This video was super helpful! I am more curvy and soft compared to how naturals are usually described, so that always confused me and made me think I might not be a natural. After watching this it definitely confirmed for me that I am
Oh I wish you have shown more photos for natural vs dramatic classic. This is so hard.
Can you please do an stylish garde-robe for naturals please? Love your videos, thanks!
This was helpful 😀 Could you explain the difference between Soft Natural and Dramatic Classic?
To me they seem very similar, and many of their recommended styles are similar 😆 so im having trouble figuring out which one I am
Same. I got sn one time and dramatic classic one time. So confused.
To the ppl who dont know if they Natural or any type of Classic you could try very sleak regal hairstyles ( like Dita Von Teese or Grace Kelly) ( very old Hollywood glamour) and see how u look and then try very wild / overly blown hair and see how it fits you .
To me it's really THE hairstyles ( very different for N and SC/C/DC ) that can show you how regal a Classic looks in sleak very tidy hair and how sloppy they look with Natural wild hair and the opposite: how "I tried too much" Naturals look with very glamorous hair 🤷♀️
Good point!
I'm tall, my features are quite blunt/angular but I also have pretty soft, noticeable curves. I have been so confused between naturals and dramatic classic but I think comparing the clothing was a very good tip. I've always been confused how some people can look so put together in relaxed clothing when I will look like I just threw something on from my wardrobe in a hurry. Soft makeup will also get "lost" in my features, I usually either wear no makeup or a very dramatic look. I think I lean towards dramatic classic.
Aly! I love these videos and I refer to your Celebrity Body Types Pinterest boards so often to help me remember which type is which. Could you add some of these photos from your videos to them? They're so good!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Loved the video! I am a clear flamboyant natural, and my mom is a clear natural, and although we take after each other a lot, I'm much taller (1.78 cm VS 1.65 cm) and my bone structure is slightly sharp, due to the dramatic undercurrent
As a soft natural I have a hard time on trying to listen to kibbe when he says to bet on unconstructed pieces and all that draping... Due to my personality (more serious) and my job (formal), I have (and like) to use more tailored clothes, (and of course) nothing oversized and nothing too short that would make me look boxy...
I really like to study kibbe theory, but sometimes I think that base my choices only on the fact that I have a retangular body is way more practical and realistic.
I am Soft Natural. No idea how to style myself or my hair. None of it helps.
@@TaxingIsThieving try Brad Mondo fake blow out it's simple and looks very elegant, just be aware it would look better if you have layers
Definitely a tutorial about dramatic classic with a natural vibe
Hi Aly! Can you please do a comparative video for Soft Dramatics and Flamboyant Naturals? I'm 1,74m/5'7'' and I really don't know which one of those two I am :/
Are Soft Naturals and Flamboyant Naturals more common then other types or are they just ‘having their time’? I’ve noticed old Hollywood examples of any type of natural is extremely rare however after the 70s examples of naturals seem never ending. SN seem especially common in this era
They are having their time,but where you live could also have many naturals/be ones of the common type.
The “vibe” and “essence” are also so subjective.
they are somewhat subjective but to a certain degree they are set by your body itself. A 5'8/176 sporty person will never come across as a small fairy and a 5'2/160 soft round person will never appear like a huge amazonian.
Would you mind doing a video on bikinis and regular tops/shorts for the different Kibbe types? Your videos are sooo helpful!! Thank you!
These videos relax me so much! It’s almost like asmr to me 🤷🏻♀️ thank you for making such great content!!
Yeah, watching Aly, I forget about the whole world. Her channel is teaching me so much about self-worth and life, since Aly has a philosophical approach to beauty-related topics. It brings me some kind of Zen and is so soothing. 🌱
I thought I was a TR but the Natural lines accurately define who I am ...
No wonder I was confused as to why I have a moderate bone structure but with width and yang ....
I also always looked muscular without even trying .....
I've never been so happy to be a soft natural.
Sooo much appreciation on your hard work! I'm glad i have followed your kibbe journey from the very beginning and had been educated and benefitted sooo much!
As an East Asian, I'm confused af although I've been extremely familiar with this topic/theory for years now. I'm pretty sure my body is Natural, but my face isn't "blunt" enough. Where can East Asians find their references and examples?
Thank you for this video, it was helpful!
I THINK I’M A NATURAL, I’m shocked 😅
This is where I started out 3 years ago, at pure N, then FN.
After that I got confused and headed over to SC, then C, and DC, even FG because DC looked way to strict on me.
But I think I’m a pure N … not tall enough vertical for FN, definitely not soft enough for SN. I look like like Ali McGraw (N). I tried the clothes of a textbook FN once, a colleague of mine, and I looked like I played dressup. Totally disappeared in her clothes. 😅
Being a natural would explain why I feel so ”frame heavy” or ”muscular”. I look quite ”fit” and/or strong but only work out twice a week. I naturally dress kind of sporty, because it works. My face looks kind of ”open” and friendly, like naturals are described… narrow medium eyes, quite thin lips, blunt nose… And I always feel like I’m sort of… big?? Even though I’m skinny? That’s why FG didn’t make sense. I don’t look particularly cute in the kibbe sense. I look more… like by body is functional, strong and like it works! One guy I dated even liked my body BECAUSE it looked ”functional” like he said. Such a weird compliment, but it’s true! Another guy thought I looked like a socker player, like I’m active and not afraid to work out. Also my dance teacher said I had a good dancer’s body.
When I think about it, both of my parents are also probably pure N. Dad looks rough and like he would do well in a survival game, not particularly tall, more stubby. And my guy friend once asked him how to get buff like him, and my dad was like ”I don’t work out at all” which is 100% true 😂 My mum looks like me, a little smaller. She strongly believes that you’e attracted to people with similar looks (scientificallt proven as well) and I asked what she thinks is similar between my dad and her. She answered ”we both have bold facial structures” which I think is a good way of describing pure N.
Wow! I’ve always envied the naturals but now that I think I am one myself….. mind BLOWN. 🤯 all of a sudden I feel more confident. Like, if I ”belong” to a group where it’s ”okay” and even expected to have wide shoulders and look strong overall… that’s what I need. I have so much trouble accepting my body, this is amazing 🥹
Thank you so much! I can't wait for your next videos!
I am so confused between flamboyant gamine, dramatic classic and natural... I can see the broad shoulders but not sure if its more sharp or blunt? The elongated look and slight muscle definition even when not being a sporty person... I find that the main difference amongst these types is the essence and that's so hard to see clearly on yourself... 🙈
Wish I was a celebrity so I could be typed haha 😉
All types of gamines always appear small and compact compated to others. Maybe this sketch helps a bit.
www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/comments/ir1jby/kibbe_13_body_types/
Very good job Alyona 👏👍
Could you possibly make a video comparing SOFTs gamine & classic? and perhaps with romantics too. (Needless to say, I believe you do a brilliant work, and you have the mind of both a scientist and an artist. Please keep doing what you do, you are helping many of us to express our essence
I’m definitely soft natural. I previously was confused between classic, soft dramatic, and sometimes romantic. My features seemed pretty evenly spaced to me, and people usually call my look elegant or something similar which reminded me of classic, whereas I’ve seen adjectives for natural like “friendly” and “handsome”.. I thought that can’t be me since I’m not manly or approachable looking. I sometimes thought romantic because I have large eyes and softness in my flesh. But then I realized that I don’t have all of those curves or lush lips.. After that, I thought that because of my thin, straight lips that I must be soft dramatic. It made sense because my bones in my body and face are straight, with large eyes (feminine) & small lips (masculine). But now I can see that I’m soft natural. My bones are wider and look straight, even in my face, but my flesh is romantic with large eyes. I can see that my lips aren’t enough to throw off my soft flesh. So glad I found my type!! Too bad I’m too poor to buy clothes now though lol 😂
I'm so confused. I can't figure out if i'm a dramatic Who has some softness, or a flamboyant natural Who is really flat! Can you do a video about It?
All confusion is now gone thanks Aly haha
whenever i do the test i get soft classic. when i wear romantic clothes i look big and strong, so sometimes i think i'm soft natural but i look undone when i wear soft natural clothes. i feel like i'm too board and strong looking to be a soft classic but really resonate with the essence and style. does anyone else have this confusion?
Ya, I have a similar issue resonating with a different type. My personality fits a more easy going, boho type style so I'm drawn to the natural's looks. However, I think I look better with more structure and waist definition (like dramatic classic) but then I feel like I'm giving off a vibe that isn't really me.
@@missj794 it seems the more i learn the more confused i get lol
Hmmmmm.....maybe i'm soft natural? I'm new to this, but I loved that this video showed a natural compared to other ones. That really helps!
This whole thing is eye opening. My mom is 4’11”. I am 5’1”. My daughter is 5’2”. We can all wear each other’s clothes- but there clothes never worked on me. They have adorable short hair- I can’t wear it. They look fabulous and more themselves in red lip or Smokey eye - I look trashy. Now I know why. Im a theatrical romantic big time and they are gamine!
This helps clear up some things, I’ve been unsure if I was N or DC. But I think I’m DC
Pure Natural has dominating upper part of the body, while DC does not. Natural shoulders are large, blunt and broad, Classic shoulders look average, not too broad not too narrow.
This was so helpful! Thank you!
These are just a fraction of the words you used to describe naturals: *”Stronger looking, longer, bigger, taller, sporty, muscular, hips can be straight-ish, they can also have wider hips and a waist, they look slightly massive, Blunt, wider looking, doesn’t look as strong and angular, different essence, rougher, stronger, narrow hips sometimes, not as symmetrical, defined musculature, not as balanced...”* etc etc
Do you see how confusing and contradicting this is?
Hi Aly!! 💜
Thank you Aly, I used to think I was TR, than SC, then R, than SC again but now I'm sure I'm definitely a natural. Or maybe soft natural. Or maybe dramatic classic. 😂
😂 did you ever tried in the kibbe reddit group? It may be not perfect but in the end it is set between two types.
Ok well now I feel better that I’m confused if I’m a natural/flamboyant natural or dramatic classic. I’ve watched the videos on stylization, and honestly both fit my wardrobe and makeup. I often do bold patterns, colors and clean lines, but I also like loose layering and muted colors. I can do my hair very free flowing like the natural, or very tidy. Is it possible to be able to switch back and forth between types depending on mood and setting?
Hi aly
You are really a creative and intelligent person😍😍❤
A fan from India🇮🇳
yup dramatic classic / natural is what I’m looking at now
Hello Aly ! Last week you told us that you think that you body type is not anymore soft gamine so what it is ?
I think she said Theatrical Romantic? I can see that...
@@EmmaLemmon I don't remember that she said that she was a theatrical romantic, but maybe your right and she is ! I am confused because I really thought that she was a soft gamine
I doubt theatrical romantic because she specifically talks about her lack of curve and how straight she is. Both opposite of TR
@@EmmaLemmon She thought she was theatrical romantic at first, an then soft gamine, and now something else.
I'm pretty sure I am a natural! Maybe with a bit of flamboyant natural thrown in, as I dress with a bit of both. Great choice of photos to compare with Jennifer Anniston and a range of others, it really helps to see it.
Love your videos! Im a classic body skeleton and flesh but natural face with a couple C answers. Would that make me classic overall? Would appreciate any help or advice! Thanks:)
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Can u do wedding dresses for naturals?
I miss other topics.
I've watched so many videos and done the tests. I'm 5'2", broad shoulders, chest, and ribcage compared to others of my same weight and height. Even before I gained a lot of weight and lost my waistline, my bust to hips was still pretty straight, only a small crimp in my waistline. When I lift weights, I look big but not defined. People think I'm stronger than I am. I thought I was Soft Classic, because my face has soft features, but now I'm wondering it I'm Soft Natural because of my body lines. Anybody have insight on these descriptions to help me out? Thank you!!!
I personally think of naturals when I think of people who look strong and ' big' like you say with weightlifting. I love that strong look. I have a skinny frame and when I lift I look like a skinny person with some muscles stuck on 😂
I was in that confusion to, i think you should look your arms and your shoulder, if they have more “atlethic” look, or are more tonified i think you probably are natural, look pictures of naturals like nicole kidman or jeniffer aniston when they where in their 20’s or 30’s and compare your shoulders and waist
make som woc examples too?
This is very interesting! Thank you for making this type of videos. I have a question, though. Does this only apply for adult women? I'm 19 and it's a little confusing for me.
Your an adult so it applies to you. I think it applies to anyone at least a couple years out from puberty.
It may be easier to define when you’re closer to 24 and are most likely done growing physically
It’s easier to figure out past your twenties when your bone structure has come through and isn’t so softened with “baby fat”
Great video!🥰
Hi Aly can you talk about styling tips for tall and skinny girl
Im really insecure about my thin arms, and having a hard time to a mice outfit because of my arms, I dont wanna always wear a longsleeve to cover them up cause I live in tropical country
Can you make a more conservative styling tips for it
Love ya
I'm definitely a pure natural, but I feel really uncomfortable in boho or layers. I have to play with this a little.
I've been sooo confused if I'm gamine or soft natural. Now I'm sure I'm soft natural. I have a youthful cute kind of face and look small but my shoulders are quite broad and my body bones are short and blunt, not narrow.
I was really confused about my type and then someone who knows the system just told me that I‘m a natural. Sometimes other people are better at typing than we ourselves.
Thank you!!
my biggest confusion now is between dramatic classic and flamboyant gamine.. and please don't just say "the first looks more balanced overall", this doesn't help
Try Googling Courteney Cox and Lady Gaga in their bathing suits and put their pictures side by side, you will see the clear difference. Flamboyant gamine's look short Square-ish more blunt in Bones they tend to look more muscular. Dramatic classics have more moderate sized bones they look taller more evened out, meaning their arms and legs are not too long but they're just a little bit sharper than a regular classic. Hope this helps.
It’s very difficult to determine if it’s balance or juxtaposition in pictures. Flamboyant gamines tends to look like small dramatics, can have longer vertical lines or longer limbs in proportion to body. There is always a contrast in their silhouette that is evident. A flamboyant gamine looks more compact, more yang. They have “boxy” features and they’re petite in bone structure. Look into Liza Minnelli and Tina Turner, both verified flamboyant gamines. Compare them to verified dramatic classics and you can see a difference almost immediately.
@@elektrakomplexet you meant dramatic classics look like small dramatics? Otherwise I find your description a bit contradictory. If I look at Liza Minelli and Tina Turner I definitely do not have that boxy appearance, I have long limbs compared to my body, quite broad shoulders, almost no boobs which I think are the yang traits in me. But if you look at me it is immediately clear that I am small, short with delicate bone structure
@@Mary-ui4qq thanks this helps indeed! I think it is the the square-ish trait that I really do not fulfill. I am like a tiny dramatic, with more flash and muscle
@@sil.d5 Dramatic classics are NOT smaller dramatics. Basically, flamboyant gamines are yang but yin in literal size. They have dramatic frame but lack the literal vertical. Dramatic classics are wider in frame than dramatics. They’re moderate with yang undercurrent. The yang undercurrent is very small because of the moderation in proportions and facial features. Nothing really stands out. In gamines, juxtaposition stands out clearly. Your description of yourself sounds more flamboyant gamine to me than dramatic classic. If you’re short and have longer limbs that is juxtaposition. Also, delicate in Kibbe means small or short. It has nothing to do with actual definition. How tall are you?
it is hard to tell SN and SG apart...
Soft natural is more average height, slightly broader, more "solid" looking, but still with soft flesh. I am not an expert on gamine types, but I believe soft gamine is more delicate and petite looking than a soft natural.
I'm 100% classic why did David K eliminated us
My guess is to stay relevant 😑
Idk maybe he was drunk when he did it
My mother is a pure classic too.
I think it’s because it’s less common. Most people aren’t an even split they are either more yin or yang. Most Gs are now FGs, most Cs are now SCs etc. However I feel like pure Naturals should still exist as they don’t really fit into SN or FN.
What about small hips? I'm short with larger top, no waist and no hips. I don't look good in anything that accentuates the waist. It makes me look wider.
Kathy B.
Can you compare TR with all the gamines?
I'm wondering who is at 3:37 on the far right w dark hair? Thanks so much for this video.
I love your lipstick, could you please tell me what colour it it ?:)
IDK if I’m a natural or a flamboyant natural. I store fat like naturals (in the tummy area). I’m overweight and very flat, no bust, no hips, no derrière LOL. But my bones are huge (really, I can see it in my wrists, shoulders, etc. I look wider than many taller and more overweight men), I’m 5’7. My results for the test are 1-B, 2-E, 3-B, 4-E, 5-B, 6-B, 7-B, 8-A, 9-B, 10-B, 11-B, 12-A, 13-B, 14-C, 15-B. So IDK, I’d appreciate your opinion. ☺️
As David Kibbe has now ruled out pure naturals, gamines and classics, it’s probably safest to look to recommendations for flamboyant naturals, though you can tweak any elements that seem a bit off for you.
@@randomstuffwithvicky Thanks for your reply! 🙂 I was so confused because I think most natural styles go better with my body type but I feel too big to be a natural... I’ll do what you suggest. 😃
I am something between natural and flamboyant natural. People think I am 10cm taller from pictures, maybe my dramatic is not too strong.
Something people don’t talk about much is that SN’s are generally slightly broad, wide or square with a yin undercurrent. I think people assume SN’s are very broad and wide and that keeps people from wanting to fully consider being a SN.
that is a general problem for all natural types.
@@kidaria1333 I agree thanks for adding this point.
people forget that we have that beach girl sporty look - the reminder would immediately make them happy about being in the Natural group.
the Audrey tattoo dress at the 9 minute mark.