Yes, it has been pointed out to me many times now that the time Cass Elliot may have spent in the basement of the Canyon Country Store has possibly been exaggerated over the years by past owners of the store and used as an urban legend and a badge of honor by those who would possibly benefit from that legendary association. I have found an equal number of sources that say she did indeed stay down there in her very early days in Laurel Canyon, but the total amount of time she was there varies from source to source. Other sources have claimed she was either not there at all for any reason or that it was possibly only less than a week. I can't 100% verify any of this without there being some level of doubt so I'm sticking with the story in the video, and no, I'm not "taking it down" as some have asked. Mistakes happen and history gets a bit hazy over the years. And in case anyone wants to know... in the actual basement of the CC Store there are posters claiming that Cass "lived" down there and they'll all tell you that she did as well, even though most of them aren't old enough to have actually been there in 1965. I even had a brief email exchange with Owen Elliot (Cass' daughter) on facebook about this very topic and she claims that the story has been exaggerated and most likely did not happen in the way it has been described over the past 55+ years. My apologies. This would not be the only mistake I've made in all of this, if it's actually incorrect. The amount of information to be found and sifted thru is just staggering.
It would be interesting to know if Cass ever had mail that was sent to her (including the original envelop ) that would have a post mark on the envelope, at that basement apt. I know you indicated people took things that belonged to her but probably not mail. So I wonder what happened to personal belongings like mail, or even bills and driver's license that could have had the basement address on these items?
Would be interesting to know, but yeah, those would probably remain within the private hands of family members like her daughter. Either that or just gone with the history of other everyday items from those years. I get the feeling that she probably wasn't even there long enough to warrant the idea of having the address of the store sent out to anyone else. She made friends in the area very quickly, like Barry McGuire, and she probably ended up staying with other people within just a few weeks of getting to LC.
It's hard to get it all right since it's been so long and even the celebrities themselves can't remember what was what. I've done research on it all for a book I wrote... I know the owner, Tommy, and he showed me the storage area apt down stairs and it's hard to know if she actually lived there for a short time - but - there is a ton of amazing history there and I love it. Was just there 2 nights ago eating at Pace. Best Salmon you'll ever eat!
@@albertawheat6832 I think you must be mistaking these folks for Albert Hofmann, a researcher with the Swiss chemical company Sandoz who developed LSD in 1938.
I was there! It was the highlight of my trip to the LA area. As it’s so happen the owner of the Canyon country store happen to be there and he gave my friend and I a tour downstairs of where mama Cass stayed for free when she first came to the canyon and he played music from the Doors, Love Street which was right across from the store and he said if we cut the guy that owned it now at the right time in the right mood, he might let us come in and give us a tour, but unfortunately that didn’t happen🙁 I waited my whole life to get to California and then when I finally got there, I was just in love with Laurel Canyon and if I could live there, I surely would❤❤❤ oh and of course he played The Mamas & The Papas song, young girls are coming to the Canyon. It was just so cool. I wish I had been able to be there during that very special time in history.
......my mantra,is and should be played at my funeral,"Make your own kind of music,sing your own special song,even if nobody else sings along," She IS a goddess...❤
Just came across this series. Loved episode 1. 71 years young and lived through this magical musical period..still do..looking forward to watching the rest of the series…
I recently turned 70 and lived all of this time with my own experimentation! The predictable losses of so many of my youth musical heroes (most recently David Crosby and Jeff Beck) and my recent retirement have kindled an exploration into history of the most influential era of my life. That has just led me to your channel and work and I will be diving deep! Great work!
Yep, every year now it seems like we lose another one (or two). Time marches on and never stops. Here's the playlist for the series. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
@@memoryfield Thank you. That makes life easy. Already binged 3 episodes and will do more after the football games. Bengals will win!!! lol (yea I live in Ohio)
My mom had a big old black trunk with a bunch of albums from the 60s and I started listening to them and fell in love with the music from the 60s my generation was the 80s but I still think the 60s had the best music.
No arguments there about the music of the 60's. It was a magical time and the music seems to have stood the test of multiple generations and will be around forever in one way or another. Thanks for watching!
I think the best period was 1966-1976. Only drawback to some 60s music is a thin recording quality and dinky-sounding drums. Sound quality started to improve so drastically starting in about 1969. Compare the sound of the first and final Beatles recordings; the quality evolution over a mere 7-8 years is utterly jaw-dropping.
David Crosby said in his 2016 autobiography "Long Time Gone: the autobiography of David Crosby" that he and Cass were "heroin buddies" on several occasions in the book. Thanks for such an insightful video. I enjoyed it very much and will continue the series.
Yeah, I was sorry to hear about some of that going on for a while over there and especially with those two. By the summer of 1969 the darker part of that scene really came back to haunt a lot of people who didn't realize all the real dangers to it and the people involved in it.
Beautiful story of Cas sad in the end glad she had a daughter i think Cas had a pretty face amazing vocals ...beauty doesnt always come with talent ... ♥️ 🌸 r. i.p Cas 🙏 2023..
it's interesting to know that many of these music super stars had parents that were high ranking military parents. Morrison's father was involved in the gulf of tonkin incident.
After watching the 1st episode I have a new found respect for Cass Elliott! I can’t imagine what she would have done had she not passed too early. Thank you for the insight into an amazing lady. I personally believe she was an outstanding artist as well as beautiful lady!!!
the fact that she run a drug den for years???? yeah you keep the respect for that and all the other degenerates that abused kids that were run through the canyon...not saying cass abused any kids but she was at parties where it happened..this has been confirmed by several people who were at these gatherings..
Really enjoy getting to see this area and it's history. I came of age in this great area. I had many of these album covers. I read them over and over. Very nostalgic!!! Thanks ❤❤ P.S. today's kids unless they get into modern vinyl just can't appreciate the beauty and creativity found in album covers! Many showed shots of Laurel Canyon on the inside covers. If you were lucky enough to buy an album for $7.99 at 11, you called your best friend to come over and listen with you. It was an event!!! My first concert was HERMANS HERMITS from the UK. (my son was astounded that The Dave Clark 5 were as big as The Beatles in the day!)
Just watched episode one which I found very informative. I love Cass’ voice and she was gold for the Mamas and Papas. Saying she was larger than life is no insult although she might take it that way. Obviously a very powerful woman and many owe much to her. Looking forward to the entire series!
Cool, Ron. Thanks for watching and make sure you use the playlist function and all of it will stay in order for you from start to finish. th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Thank you, I think I have seen this before. But, it’s so good I’m rewatching. I’m obsessed with Laurel Canyon (that time period). Maybe because my parents favorite movie was Hair☺️. Oh I just started reading My Mama Cass by her daughter Owen Elliot-Kugell. It just came out. It’s good. ☺️❤️👍🏼
This is even more fantastic than the first one Now you have just gone and taken it to a whole nother level! Excellent work! I'm going to binge the next few episodes! How interesting that John Phillips would implicate Cass in the Tate murders! What an incredible asshat.
Haha, you're way too kind. I had to go back and touch up a ton of things in those first three episodes, and so I may as well just give them all a good makeover. By the time I got to about 15 episodes edited, I started to find out what was working and what wasn't. Plus I found a few mistakes with some dates and even misspelled some names and stuff, new data, etc. So yeah, it's all been a work in progress. Thanks for watching, again!
i have been binging on your work. This is as good as it gets. I feel so fortunate to have discovered your channel. In that I thank you and truly am blown away.
Just found your videos. They are amazing and I love how respectful and knowledgeable you are. Thank you :) (edit: John Phillips was a nasty piece of work - love you Ms Elliott)
Fantastic! Down the rabbit hole… I’m a 60’s kid, I’ve been reading & researching LC for decades. Excellent series, Subscribed. 💙 And the very ending of this episode… yes, agreed. John was… 😂 Great work, I thoroughly enjoyed this!
Awesome, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and use the playlist function to make sure you see all the episodes in their proper order. Have a great day! :) th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
I could listen about Cass Elliot all day...I remember the Scooby Doo movie episode with her stuck in a candy factory..these green monster men were stuffing gold in the chocolate bars and sending them to Rio de Janeiro...not kidding .... She was always first to joke about her weight I think before other people did but she was awesome just the way she was regardless. Love the video💗🍄🌻🌼
I wish I didn't have to sleep or go to work at a real job. I'd be cranking these videos out at a rate of about 3 per week. Now I'm lucky if I get one done in 10 days. But yeah, more on the way!
Thank you for speaking so highly of Cass and bringing focus on her. She seemed like an amazing woman and I hate when I hear people only talk about her weight, especially from her own band members 😡
Yes, I agree. She was quite phenomenal, and I was happy to highlight her here in this first episode. She comes up again later in at least two other episodes and in those she is shown to also have some weaknesses and was prone to making a few bad mistakes along with some lapses in judgement. But it also shows that she was just human and had frailties just like the rest of us. It's just that she was in a place where she was wealthy and had great influence with her other peers in that community. It put her in a few compromising situations. Thanks for watching!
Awesome! Here's the playlist function if you want to see them all in their proper order. Some have been re-edited and it caused them to run out of order. th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Oh thank you sooo much Billy, for revising and expanding this piece, I can't wait for the rest of the series. I am this generation, I loved Cass so much my whole life, and your added information lets me know more so much more..I am LA native and LOVE the era (I was there, yes it's true)
❤great presentation and research.. I was a photographer on local newspapers on Merseyside when the Beatles returned . So the music and personalities grew with me for so many years.....
That was a very nice, respectful and loving tribute to Cass Elliot. Almost all I've ever heard are unkind, mean spirited things. It's amazing how we no tolerance for making fun of someone for the color of their skin, sexual preference, etc. But it's still okay to make fun of someone for being overweight, and most disregard the fact that these people have feelings and are hurt by such hurtful, unkind words. I read several biographies about her, and the M&Ps, and I developed a tremendous respect for her as a singer, as a person and a vocalist. She doesn't get the credit she's due much of the time. I love your honesty about John Phillips. The guy was scum.
It's an absolutely fascinating and captivating video! I love the history of music and laurel canyon in particular! look forward to watching every episode and maybe go there some day! Thanks for the time and effort you put into this series!
Being there in that place where they all walked and hung out with one another was a really great feeling. I loved being there, especially in the parts that were a bit more quiet and peaceful.
Love all your videos Billy! They are such a treat! I appreciate all the hard work that you’ve done to bring this videos to us! One bit of John Phillips history is that he was having dinner with Roman Polanski after the Tate/LaBianca murders, and while they were preparing the meal, Roman threw a meat clever at him narrowly missing his neck. Phillips was in shock and asked him why he threw the clever. Polanski replied by asking him if he killed Sharon. The motive being that when Roan and Michelle were in Europe they had a brief affair. Michelle and Sharon were good friends, and Sharon was heartbroken when she found out, but Sharon forgave her and they would speak to each other throughout Sharon’s pregnancy. John was angry with Roman but they became friends again after Sharon’s funeral. Roman even admitted to breaking into Phillip’s car and put a chemical on seats and floor that shows up bloodstains. Just thought you’d like to know, if you didn’t already!✌️Cathy
@@memoryfield yes Bill, not crazy but insane stuff, Polanski and Phillips admitted to these facts during interviews. With friends like these hate to see what their enemies looked like, or do we already know? 🤔 scary stuff!
Thank you, I will! Lucky for me I don't live in LA but actually a much quieter and laid-back place. It's nice to visit over there but just a bit too hectic for my liking on a daily basis. Thanks for watching.
this was a fantastic watch! thank you for getting her final age right- did you notice in your research how often she is said to have died at 33? reputable sources, too! it’s such a simple and easily verifiable thing.
Actually, her age was definitely an easy one to pin down. But yeah, tons of weird and questionable information out there about Cass Elliot and the various details of her life. Sometimes I would find conflicting info and found it very difficult to know who to believe about what. The Internet is a strange and wonderful place for research. LOL.
I've been watching several of your episodes now and what you're doing is absolutely great! This is the way it should be done. I live in Europe but I wish I could buy a ticket and go there today. You really make history come alive. Can't wait for the next episode.
Wow, thanks! Glad to hear all of that, Michael. Make sure you use this playlist function to watch all of the videos in order. There's 15 in this series! th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
What a coincidence .... I am seeing this episode, on 29Th July 2024 ... reading the dyingdate of Cass Ellliot, so, exactly 50 years ago. Thank you so much, for this interesting, well narrated history, with so much respect for Cass. I am positively touched. Greetings from the Netherlands!
We are off work today thats why im able to comment so much in 1 day on your channel i been watching your videos for hours about to watch another laurel canyon video im relaxing with my small dog and enjoying your videos please make more like these in the future would love to see some about the haight ashbury area and hippie flower power love in etc.era in 60s thanks friend peace
Just found your channel and watched all your mini series of Laurel Canyon Billy. 1960’s LA has always interested me and your education on it has been great to listen to and watch. Throughout history there has been areas of the world where poets, musicians and artists flocked to, was Laurel Canyon the last one in our history? Just all the geniuses of music and writing all in one place. Magic stuff.
Yes, it seems like all the stars lined up together at that point in time. It was a brief time period and kind of hard to imagine that it will ever happen again in the same way it did here. Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching!
I had one more comment regarding your “Love Street” episode when you walk up the stairway called “Tavern Way”. My family settled in Park City, Utah after emigrating from Denmark back in 1872. Anyhow I was born there and spent about 15 years living in the town before we moved in 1980. The town is completely different from back then but getting to my point, there were numerous steep stairways around the town leading to paths so one could travel to other sections of the town. As a kid I would play on those stairway and they were a blast!!! Seeing that Tavern Way stairway reminded me of those days.❤
Did any of those staircases in Park City look like the staircase in this photo of memoryfield in Park City a couple of years ago? secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.226/29d.a5b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/7R31666EDIT-1-1024x991.jpg
I am going to search through my old family photos for some. I have a bunch of photos of my family in PC when the town was just still a mining town and it looks completely different. There is a “park” up by the Silver King Mine named after my great uncle Loran Larsen. It is along one of the ski runs, pretty awesome view from there. Sure do miss that place. I left Utah for good after finishing college and have not been back except to visit family. Unfortunately 2005 was the last time I was there. I grew up roaming the hills around the town and hiking all over that section of the Wasatch mountains, which happen to be one of my favorite spots on earth. Guardsman Pass was another place I roamed freely in nature, making myself home sick! I currently live in Oregon which I find quite beautiful as well but it is not Utah. If you are interested in seeing some of the photos of PC back from the 40-70’s, can email you them. I find the contrast from today’s town and the past quite interesting. Oh, my wife and I are truly enjoying your Laurel Canyon vids, so many cool stories and connections!!!
Glad to hear all that and so happy that you found us here. We visit Park City several times every year. Really awesome place but way too expensive to live there! It's always growing and it seems to change more and more every year we go there.
Billy, another video suggestion for you. About four years ago, I was obsessing about the 50th anniversary of Woodstock and since January is a slow month for me, I had time to watch the full ‘Woodstock, The Movie’ while my wife was at work😅. I thought it be cool to do a video analyzing the movie as it goes along, pointing out who’s who. There is a lot of close-ups of people wandering around but I’m pretty sure the majority of these guys/gals are key people involved with the production and I thought it would be interesting to research this, which you’re very good at, and identify as many of these individuals as you can 👍.
what a lovely tribute to Cass Elliot. she sings beautifully, doesn't she? I'd love to see a bit of what remains of the Zappa Lodge, so I'll be going through your other videos. thank you for the visuals and the story telling 💖
Billy - This is fantastic!! It's fun to see you had an exchange with Owen on Facebook!! Your's and Juliet's music goes so well with the episode - very complementary!!!
Another great episode and I'm hooked on this series! Cass Elliot WAS The Mamas & The Papas and because of her larger than life persona and vocal talent she could totally eclipse John Philips and his narrow bias!! Thanks for bringing the memory of her to life in this video!
I hear you. It's changing rapidly every single year. The older homes are being torn down and giant mansions are coming in and covering everything. Thanks for watching!
@@memoryfield From reading about LC, it seemed to me a lot was left out from that doco. As though it may've partially been a vanity/flattery project, does that make any sense?
@@memoryfield and it seems, to paraphrase John Cleese, that if you want to get anything done in this country, you've got to do it yourself till you're blue in the mouth, lol!
@@l.a.gothro3999 Yes, it does make sense. Unfortunately, I find that about half the people who watch these videos complain because I don't spend enough time talking only about the music. The other half seems to only want conspiracy theories and all the gory details and dirty laundry. There's just SO MUCH information from this area that in order to thoroughly cover every single aspect I would have to quite my day job and do nothing but make about 50 more videos in this series to cover all of it in all of its totality. There's no way that can be done. Not by me anyway. Some of the more fringe characters were left out as well because I just simply ran out of time in LA. And money, lol. I'm not even from LA!
I read somewhere that Cass went through a period of depression after Denny refused to marry her. He talked a bit about it in a biopic on the Mamas & Papa's. My opinion of John Phillips hit a new low when I read about his drug escapades with Keith Richards (bio-book "Life") in the late 70's.
Yeah, John was some piece of work. That's for sure. So much drama involved in that little group of four, it's amazing they ever got anything recorded at all. They didn't seem like they were really built to last as a highly functional music group.
@@memoryfield I just read recently that John Phillips "estate" (aka his drug-den) in Old Greenwich CT is on the market for a mere 3.7 million. You should buy it ! Lots of room for a studio etc. I lived about 10 miles away back in the late 70's. I remember hearing about his "intervention" from friends of my mother's who did domestic work in the area. The house was so trashed that it was considered a health hazard and was wrapped with yellow police tape and bio-hazard markings. Now it's part of R&R history. 196 Shore Rd, Old Greenwich Ct.
@@memoryfield i heard the house was polluted with used syringes, urine, feces and vomit and a couple of dead cats. It was quite the gossip news and made the local papers. No pictures of the inside .Lots of pictures of John and the band.
May I suggest the Dylan New York folk era for your next info play list. So many ppl stemmed from there like Gordon Lightfoot for example. I venture to say your analysis would go deeper than what has been produced so far
To put it bluntly. . . Cass Elliot made the Mamas and Papas, and I'm willing to be that John hated that and not for nothing who was he to complain about her looks, he was nothing to look at, and he had bad teeth. :)
Really like your music you created for this series. Great job! Notice you wear a Griz hat sometimes. I was a Missoulian for many years from about 1993-2000.
Wood shingle roofs, houses build way too close together, windy roads that made it difficult for fire trucks to navigate and highly flammable eucalyptus trees in the area. All make for a very bad combinations for massive and terrible fires.
There was a free book online, the first one on the subject of the Laurel Canyon music scene written by a guy from Torrance (close to me) 20± years ago that I don't have access to right now but the connection (besides music) of all these iconic artists was also their parents and their employ in US Military Security which can't be coincidence. Key word ALL All of their parents were Gov.employed. His book was written chapter by chapter and published online and made me weep. .Its a taste you can never un-see. I have the PDF somewhere and pa girlfriend rinted it out too knowing it would disappear and it has. Its just a part of the story you should be aware of . There seems to be way too many new books written about the Canyon but none like this. Once he- you, put it all together you'll understand how we ended up right where we are at now. A place I never dreamed wed go. And it all fits ...as far as the putrid state of the mainstream news media spewing propaganda about our squeaky clean military who can do no wrong ever. Thank you tor your service training children to kill. Bla bla bla. Shoot me NOW. oh yea Lookout Mountain was an advanced military movie (and audio) special effects studio don't ya know. Right smack dab in Centerville. As a boomer musician growing up here this all broke my heart. l,ll look for the PDF (on an old hard drive) for ya.
ELLEN was all you said. Thank you for doing her what she deserved .KINDNESS. But the truth was coming out. Rather,shocking to me,but open party door” lots of money she maybe had shady” ppl. You are correct about her H use. She got very into the darkness. But SHE PROSED TO DENNY! HE REFUSED, THANKS FOR THE CREEQUE ALLEY SONG SHADE! IKR? As it’s true ICONICS NEVER REALLY DIE AS YOULL Know. Anyway great loss To A lovely intelligent TALENTED LADY RIP ELLEN! 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️❤❤❤🔮🔮✌️🌟⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Believe it or not, there's actually a possible reason for that. It's because apparently someone sent a complaint to TH-cam about a reference we made to the use of drugs contained within this particular video. So TH-cam (Google) decided that the episode had to be changed over to "sensitive content" and/or "adult-oriented material not suitable for minors". That's the only reason we can think of that it's available on a password protected PC and not necessarily on a television. What's funny is that there are many, many other references made to drug-use in just about every single other episode in this series and none of them fall into this same category. I mean, come on, it was the late 1960's for crying out loud. LOL.
Great watching this again Billy, with the wee add on. I'm hooked on " old Hollywood". Do you have any plans on v/logs about the old actors and where they lived.
I'm considering a motorcycle trip for my son and I. What hotels are good to stay at that aren't to far from the area? Are there places to pull over, park and walk?
I stayed at a Best Western, 7212 Sunset Blvd. that was very affordable compared to that whole area. Very close to the south entrance to Laurel Canyon. Still not cheap, though. As for the canyon itself, there's really no rhyme or reason to any of it back there. It's just a hodgepodge of little roads and every now and then you'll find a spot to pull over and park. The Canyon Country store has a parking lot but again, it can be difficult to walk anywhere from that spot because the main road thru the canyon is just jam-packed with high traffic at all hours of the day. There are NO sidewalks anywhere in that canyon. People walk on the roads. The further you get up in elevation, the quieter and less crazy it seems to get.
My great grandmother and great grandfather Kenneth Vane Redpath, built their home in Laurel Canyon in about the very early years of the 1900's. My grandmother grazed her horses at the corner of Ventura Blvd and Balboa. She had a pet deer for 21 years at her home in Laurel Canyon. Her home had a turret in the front and it was on a corner. Inside there was a neat fire place with little shelves on it. Above your head was a cat walk that went from her bedroom to a room over the kitchen. Grandma Ethel Ellingston went to Hollywood High School and lived until her 68th high school graduation. Or there about’s. Great great grandma Sarah Baker Swain Lufkin lived under the "d" of the Hollywood sign on the Hollywood Hills, on Tuxedo Dr. Grandpa Redpath had various jobs as a food broker and he was in charge of circulation of the L.A. Times News Paper. Grandma Ethel and Grandpa Harry used to court one another by taking walks up Laurel Canyon…..unchaperoned! Grandpa Harry had holdings in Nome, Alaska that a banker handled for him after his parents died until grandpa Harry was of age. But they absconded with his money and started the Los Angeles Times News Paper‼️😠. FYI 😊 Ms. Jay Karen.
Such great info in all of that! Wish there was a known address to that house in Laurel Canyon that your grandparents owned. I can think of about 4 right off hand that I've seen that might match that description with the turret and being on a corner. I saw a few and some of them ended up on camera in this series.
The street "Redpath", is my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother Kenneth and Lottie Redpath, or in Scotland it is pronounced Ridpeth which meant "The Reed Path". It was a village of people who lived where you go through the reeds on a path. Through the years their name wound up being Redpath.
Oh, there is most definitely a long road in there known as Ridpath Drive and Episode 3 (both parts) cover it quite extensively. But I have to tell you, my memory of that street is that there were really no super old houses there that looked any older than the 1950's. If your grandparents lived on Ridpath in the early 1900's then most likely that house is long gone now. There are several houses on that street that are ultra-modern and probably were built very recently and on the same lots where some very old houses used to sit.
I believe Harry Nilsson owned 7708 Woodrow Wilson and was leasing it out to his best friend Ringo when the fire happened. Nice series -- speaking of Harry and Ringo, I'd enjoy a Hollywood Vampires episode.
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Yes, it has been pointed out to me many times now that the time Cass Elliot may have spent in the basement of the Canyon Country Store has possibly been exaggerated over the years by past owners of the store and used as an urban legend and a badge of honor by those who would possibly benefit from that legendary association. I have found an equal number of sources that say she did indeed stay down there in her very early days in Laurel Canyon, but the total amount of time she was there varies from source to source. Other sources have claimed she was either not there at all for any reason or that it was possibly only less than a week. I can't 100% verify any of this without there being some level of doubt so I'm sticking with the story in the video, and no, I'm not "taking it down" as some have asked. Mistakes happen and history gets a bit hazy over the years. And in case anyone wants to know... in the actual basement of the CC Store there are posters claiming that Cass "lived" down there and they'll all tell you that she did as well, even though most of them aren't old enough to have actually been there in 1965. I even had a brief email exchange with Owen Elliot (Cass' daughter) on facebook about this very topic and she claims that the story has been exaggerated and most likely did not happen in the way it has been described over the past 55+ years. My apologies. This would not be the only mistake I've made in all of this, if it's actually incorrect. The amount of information to be found and sifted thru is just staggering.
It would be interesting to know if Cass ever had mail that was sent to her
(including the original envelop ) that would have a post mark on the envelope, at that basement apt. I know you indicated people took things that belonged to her but probably not mail. So I wonder what happened to personal belongings like mail, or even bills and driver's license that could have had the basement address on these items?
Would be interesting to know, but yeah, those would probably remain within the private hands of family members like her daughter. Either that or just gone with the history of other everyday items from those years. I get the feeling that she probably wasn't even there long enough to warrant the idea of having the address of the store sent out to anyone else. She made friends in the area very quickly, like Barry McGuire, and she probably ended up staying with other people within just a few weeks of getting to LC.
It's hard to get it all right since it's been so long and even the celebrities themselves can't remember what was what. I've done research on it all for a book I wrote... I know the owner, Tommy, and he showed me the storage area apt down stairs and it's hard to know if she actually lived there for a short time - but - there is a ton of amazing history there and I love it. Was just there 2 nights ago eating at Pace. Best Salmon you'll ever eat!
All of these army brats introducing LSD to the world...good times for sure.
@@albertawheat6832 I think you must be mistaking these folks for Albert Hofmann, a researcher with the Swiss chemical company Sandoz who developed LSD in 1938.
I was there! It was the highlight of my trip to the LA area. As it’s so happen the owner of the Canyon country store happen to be there and he gave my friend and I a tour downstairs of where mama Cass stayed for free when she first came to the canyon and he played music from the Doors, Love Street which was right across from the store and he said if we cut the guy that owned it now at the right time in the right mood, he might let us come in and give us a tour, but unfortunately that didn’t happen🙁 I waited my whole life to get to California and then when I finally got there, I was just in love with Laurel Canyon and if I could live there, I surely would❤❤❤ oh and of course he played The Mamas & The Papas song, young girls are coming to the Canyon. It was just so cool. I wish I had been able to be there during that very special time in history.
......my mantra,is and should be played at my funeral,"Make your own kind of music,sing your own special song,even if nobody else sings along," She IS a goddess...❤
Just came across this series. Loved episode 1. 71 years young and lived through this magical musical period..still do..looking forward to watching the rest of the series…
Wow, thanks for saying all that. Glad you found and yes, please keep watching!
I recently turned 70 and lived all of this time with my own experimentation! The predictable losses of so many of my youth musical heroes (most recently David Crosby and Jeff Beck) and my recent retirement have kindled an exploration into history of the most influential era of my life. That has just led me to your channel and work and I will be diving deep! Great work!
Yep, every year now it seems like we lose another one (or two). Time marches on and never stops. Here's the playlist for the series. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
@@memoryfield Thank you. That makes life easy. Already binged 3 episodes and will do more after the football games. Bengals will win!!! lol (yea I live in Ohio)
Can't get enough of this music history.
My mom had a big old black trunk with a bunch of albums from the 60s and I started listening to them and fell in love with the music from the 60s my generation was the 80s but I still think the 60s had the best music.
No arguments there about the music of the 60's. It was a magical time and the music seems to have stood the test of multiple generations and will be around forever in one way or another. Thanks for watching!
As a child of the 60’s good to hear and I liked some 80’s music but always thoughts the 60’s had everything
I think the best period was 1966-1976. Only drawback to some 60s music is a thin recording quality and dinky-sounding drums. Sound quality started to improve so drastically starting in about 1969. Compare the sound of the first and final Beatles recordings; the quality evolution over a mere 7-8 years is utterly jaw-dropping.
That's why I consider Led Zeppelin a '60s band. Their first LP was released 1-12-69.
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Beautiful tribute to her❤
I could watch you all day long! Love the way you talk, and what you say! Sooooo very interesting!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
Wow, thank you!
I've really enjoyed your series on Laurel Canyon. Thank you!
Thanks, John. Really glad to hear that. More to come later!
WONDERFUL beginning to a fascinating series. This is HISTORY!
Thanks Abby. Much appreciated!
Sheesh. That Keith Moon coincidence is bewildering. Very well done sir.
Thanks! Yes, that Cass Elliot/Keith Moon connection is just mind-blowing.
David Crosby said in his 2016 autobiography "Long Time Gone: the autobiography of David Crosby" that he and Cass were "heroin buddies" on several occasions in the book. Thanks for such an insightful video. I enjoyed it very much and will continue the series.
Yeah, I was sorry to hear about some of that going on for a while over there and especially with those two. By the summer of 1969 the darker part of that scene really came back to haunt a lot of people who didn't realize all the real dangers to it and the people involved in it.
Outstanding episode. Watching them all on a beautiful Sunday evening in Treasure coast Florida
Beautiful story of Cas sad in the end glad she had a daughter i think Cas had a pretty face amazing vocals ...beauty doesnt always come with talent ... ♥️ 🌸 r. i.p Cas 🙏 2023..
A lovely tribute to Cass Elliott.
it's interesting to know that many of these music super stars had parents that were high ranking military parents. Morrison's father was involved in the gulf of tonkin incident.
His report of being attacked by two Vietnamese ships literally was the excuse to start the Vietnam War.
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Loving this series. I’m travelling over from the uk later this month and am excited to check out laurel canyon. Thanks again!
Thank you for this!!! Loved Cass ,,,what a Beautiful Talent!!!!
After watching the 1st episode I have a new found respect for Cass Elliott! I can’t imagine what she would have done had she not passed too early. Thank you for the insight into an amazing lady. I personally believe she was an outstanding artist as well as beautiful lady!!!
We totally agree! Cass was a world-class talent and left us way too soon.
the fact that she run a drug den for years???? yeah you keep the respect for that and all the other degenerates that abused kids that were run through the canyon...not saying cass abused any kids but she was at parties where it happened..this has been confirmed by several people who were at these gatherings..
Really enjoy getting to see this area and it's history. I came of age in this great area. I had many of these album covers. I read them over and over. Very nostalgic!!! Thanks ❤❤ P.S. today's kids unless they get into modern vinyl just can't appreciate the beauty and creativity found in album covers! Many showed shots of Laurel Canyon on the inside covers. If you were lucky enough to buy an album for $7.99 at 11, you called your best friend to come over and listen with you. It was an event!!! My first concert was HERMANS HERMITS from the UK. (my son was astounded that The Dave Clark 5 were as big as The Beatles in the day!)
What a voice. I loved her ❤️
Yes, quite a talent. Gone too soon.
Thank you for the history❤
We had a blast doing it. We didn't make the history here but we're happy to revisit the times. Thanks for watching!
Awesome movie👍👍
Just watched episode one which I found very informative. I love Cass’ voice and she was gold for the Mamas and Papas. Saying she was larger than life is no insult although she might take it that way. Obviously a very powerful woman and many owe much to her.
Looking forward to the entire series!
Cool, Ron. Thanks for watching and make sure you use the playlist function and all of it will stay in order for you from start to finish. th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Thank you, I think I have seen this before. But, it’s so good I’m rewatching. I’m obsessed with Laurel Canyon (that time period). Maybe because my parents favorite movie was Hair☺️. Oh I just started reading My Mama Cass by her daughter Owen Elliot-Kugell. It just came out. It’s good. ☺️❤️👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for your comments and glad you liked it enough to watch it twice!
Since when have you felt sentiment like this, on the internet? It was charming.
Felt so fleeting. But iconic.
A bright light will often attract those who want to exploit and extinguish it. 🎶🕊👉🇨🇦🎶
You are absolutely right she was very well spoken and always a great interview, she had a beautiful soul ❤️ 🙏🙌
This is even more fantastic than the first one Now you have just gone and taken it to a whole nother level! Excellent work! I'm going to binge the next few episodes! How interesting that John Phillips would implicate Cass in the Tate murders! What an incredible asshat.
Haha, you're way too kind. I had to go back and touch up a ton of things in those first three episodes, and so I may as well just give them all a good makeover. By the time I got to about 15 episodes edited, I started to find out what was working and what wasn't. Plus I found a few mistakes with some dates and even misspelled some names and stuff, new data, etc. So yeah, it's all been a work in progress. Thanks for watching, again!
i have been binging on your work. This is as good as it gets. I feel so fortunate to have discovered your channel. In that I thank you and truly am blown away.
Wow, thank you James! Very kind comments and we're also so glad you found us here. Thanks for watching!
Simple memories developed into an epic journey
Thank you for letting me share the experience from afar
Much appreciated
John
So are very much welcome, John. Glad we were able to provide you with a unique experience thru a simple video that we made just for fun.
Just found your videos. They are amazing and I love how respectful and knowledgeable you are. Thank you :) (edit: John Phillips was a nasty piece of work - love you Ms Elliott)
Awesome, and thank you for your comments. Much appreciated and so glad you found us here.
Second time around...enjoying this series very much.
Love this series of videos, makes you feel like you were literally there at the time. Excellent work, Thank you 👌
Awesome, thank you!
Watching again in November 2022..I'm 40 years old. Love the late 60s California Folk/Country Rock scene
Great segment! Thank you for doing this. 👍
Our pleasure! We had a lot of fun with this series and had a blast making it. Loved being out there in that area so rich in musical history.
Great documentary, some fascinating history, can't wait to watch the other episodes :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic! Down the rabbit hole… I’m a 60’s kid, I’ve been reading & researching LC for decades. Excellent series, Subscribed. 💙 And the very ending of this episode… yes, agreed. John was… 😂 Great work, I thoroughly enjoyed this!
Awesome, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and use the playlist function to make sure you see all the episodes in their proper order. Have a great day!
:) th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Dude, really enjoying this, you are a natural! Big Fan!
Awesome! Thank you!
I could listen about Cass Elliot all day...I remember the Scooby Doo movie episode with her stuck in a candy factory..these green monster men were stuffing gold in the chocolate bars and sending them to Rio de Janeiro...not kidding .... She was always first to joke about her weight I think before other people did but she was awesome just the way she was regardless. Love the video💗🍄🌻🌼
Yes, she was definitely unique for sure. A very special person with an immense talent. Gone way too soon. :(
Thank you so much for making this! Just what I wanted to see.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and glad you found us here.
Enjoyed this. Looking forward to the rest of the miniseries.
I wish I didn't have to sleep or go to work at a real job. I'd be cranking these videos out at a rate of about 3 per week. Now I'm lucky if I get one done in 10 days. But yeah, more on the way!
Very good! Thanks for posting! 👍♥️
No problem 😊
I found this very entertaining as all these musicians I listened to as a teenager.Thank-you so much!!
Our pleasure! Thank you so much for watching and glad you liked it.
Thank you for speaking so highly of Cass and bringing focus on her. She seemed like an amazing woman and I hate when I hear people only talk about her weight, especially from her own band members 😡
Yes, I agree. She was quite phenomenal, and I was happy to highlight her here in this first episode. She comes up again later in at least two other episodes and in those she is shown to also have some weaknesses and was prone to making a few bad mistakes along with some lapses in judgement. But it also shows that she was just human and had frailties just like the rest of us. It's just that she was in a place where she was wealthy and had great influence with her other peers in that community. It put her in a few compromising situations. Thanks for watching!
@@memoryfield awesome! Yes I agree. I’m on ep3 now!
Awesome! Here's the playlist function if you want to see them all in their proper order. Some have been re-edited and it caused them to run out of order. th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Oh thank you sooo much Billy, for revising and expanding this piece, I can't wait for the rest of the series. I am this generation, I loved Cass so much my whole life, and your added information lets me know more so much more..I am LA native and LOVE the era (I was there, yes it's true)
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching and for commenting too. Much appreciated!
❤great presentation and research.. I was a photographer on local newspapers on Merseyside when the Beatles returned . So the music and personalities grew with me for so many years.....
Thank you so much for your kind words. Big Beatles fans over here too in this house.
That was a very nice, respectful and loving tribute to Cass Elliot. Almost all I've ever heard are unkind, mean spirited things. It's amazing how we no tolerance for making fun of someone for the color of their skin, sexual preference, etc. But it's still okay to make fun of someone for being overweight, and most disregard the fact that these people have feelings and are hurt by such hurtful, unkind words. I read several biographies about her, and the M&Ps, and I developed a tremendous respect for her as a singer, as a person and a vocalist. She doesn't get the credit she's due much of the time. I love your honesty about John Phillips. The guy was scum.
Terrific channel, just subscribed...excellent job, Mate 👏...
Much appreciated!
Love your take on the scene and the times and the musicians!!! Excellent!!!
Thank you so much for the compliments and happy to hear that you enjoyed the series!
It's an absolutely fascinating and captivating video! I love the history of music and laurel canyon in particular! look forward to watching every episode and maybe go there some day! Thanks for the time and effort you put into this series!
Thank you very much!
Really good work Billy , for some reason i have felt close to all these people over the years
Being there in that place where they all walked and hung out with one another was a really great feeling. I loved being there, especially in the parts that were a bit more quiet and peaceful.
There wont ever be another time and place with people like them, and it sure is sad
New subscriber here. That was *excellent*. Looking forward now to Episode 2 and beyond !
Awesome! Make sure you use the Playlist function and everything will stay in its proper order. th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
Love all your videos Billy! They are such a treat! I appreciate all the hard work that you’ve done to bring this videos to us! One bit of John Phillips history is that he was having dinner with Roman Polanski after the Tate/LaBianca murders, and while they were preparing the meal, Roman threw a meat clever at him narrowly missing his neck. Phillips was in shock and asked him why he threw the clever. Polanski replied by asking him if he killed Sharon. The motive being that when Roan and Michelle were in Europe they had a brief affair. Michelle and Sharon were good friends, and Sharon was heartbroken when she found out, but Sharon forgave her and they would speak to each other throughout Sharon’s pregnancy. John was angry with Roman but they became friends again after Sharon’s funeral. Roman even admitted to breaking into Phillip’s car and put a chemical on seats and floor that shows up bloodstains. Just thought you’d like to know, if you didn’t already!✌️Cathy
Whoa, that's some crazy stuff!
@@memoryfield yes Bill, not crazy but insane stuff, Polanski and Phillips admitted to these facts during interviews. With friends like these hate to see what their enemies looked like, or do we already know? 🤔 scary stuff!
Great channel and great episode! ……..”And no one is getting fat except for Mama Case”✌️❤️
Damn, I grew up loving this music and these artists, this video is so well done, i enjoyed every second, thank you!
Thank you so much for your kind words. Glad you found us here!
Thank you for this insight into a fascinating icon
Glad you enjoyed it!
thank you for the great history keep up your great work stay safe out there on those crazy roads
Thank you, I will! Lucky for me I don't live in LA but actually a much quieter and laid-back place. It's nice to visit over there but just a bit too hectic for my liking on a daily basis. Thanks for watching.
Amazing series brother. "Work is love made visible".
this was a fantastic watch! thank you for getting her final age right- did you notice in your research how often she is said to have died at 33? reputable sources, too! it’s such a simple and easily verifiable thing.
Actually, her age was definitely an easy one to pin down. But yeah, tons of weird and questionable information out there about Cass Elliot and the various details of her life. Sometimes I would find conflicting info and found it very difficult to know who to believe about what. The Internet is a strange and wonderful place for research. LOL.
Big thanks.
You're welcome!
I've been watching several of your episodes now and what you're doing is absolutely great! This is the way it should be done. I live in Europe but I wish I could buy a ticket and go there today. You really make history come alive. Can't wait for the next episode.
Wow, thanks! Glad to hear all of that, Michael. Make sure you use this playlist function to watch all of the videos in order. There's 15 in this series! th-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzfma6qiSlhb0EOmvKyNSpg2c.html
What a coincidence .... I am seeing this episode, on 29Th July 2024 ... reading the dyingdate of Cass Ellliot, so, exactly 50 years ago. Thank you so much, for this interesting, well narrated history, with so much respect for Cass. I am positively touched. Greetings from the Netherlands!
We are off work today thats why im able to comment so much in 1 day on your channel i been watching your videos for hours about to watch another laurel canyon video im relaxing with my small dog and enjoying your videos please make more like these in the future would love to see some about the haight ashbury area and hippie flower power love in etc.era in 60s thanks friend peace
Just found your channel and watched all your mini series of Laurel Canyon Billy. 1960’s LA has always interested me and your education on it has been great to listen to and watch. Throughout history there has been areas of the world where poets, musicians and artists flocked to, was Laurel Canyon the last one in our history? Just all the geniuses of music and writing all in one place. Magic stuff.
Yes, it seems like all the stars lined up together at that point in time. It was a brief time period and kind of hard to imagine that it will ever happen again in the same way it did here. Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching!
Thanks for this info! My son and I will be checking this out next week! 🤩🤩
So glad to hear that! Have fun and have a latte at the Country Store. They're really good.
I had one more comment regarding your “Love Street” episode when you walk up the stairway called “Tavern Way”. My family settled in Park City, Utah after emigrating from Denmark back in 1872. Anyhow I was born there and spent about 15 years living in the town before we moved in 1980. The town is completely different from back then but getting to my point, there were numerous steep stairways around the town leading to paths so one could travel to other sections of the town. As a kid I would play on those stairway and they were a blast!!! Seeing that Tavern Way stairway reminded me of those days.❤
Did any of those staircases in Park City look like the staircase in this photo of memoryfield in Park City a couple of years ago? secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.226/29d.a5b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/7R31666EDIT-1-1024x991.jpg
Here's another one in Park City secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.226/29d.a5b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/7R31793-1024x584.jpg
I am going to search through my old family photos for some. I have a bunch of photos of my family in PC when the town was just still a mining town and it looks completely different. There is a “park” up by the Silver King Mine named after my great uncle Loran Larsen. It is along one of the ski runs, pretty awesome view from there. Sure do miss that place. I left Utah for good after finishing college and have not been back except to visit family. Unfortunately 2005 was the last time I was there. I grew up roaming the hills around the town and hiking all over that section of the Wasatch mountains, which happen to be one of my favorite spots on earth. Guardsman Pass was another place I roamed freely in nature, making myself home sick! I currently live in Oregon which I find quite beautiful as well but it is not Utah. If you are interested in seeing some of the photos of PC back from the 40-70’s, can email you them. I find the contrast from today’s town and the past quite interesting. Oh, my wife and I are truly enjoying your Laurel Canyon vids, so many cool stories and connections!!!
Glad to hear all that and so happy that you found us here. We visit Park City several times every year. Really awesome place but way too expensive to live there! It's always growing and it seems to change more and more every year we go there.
Glad I found this, really interesting.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching. :)
So interesting, thank you!
Thanks for watching and glad that you like it!
Billy,
another video suggestion for you.
About four years ago, I was obsessing about the 50th anniversary of Woodstock and since January is a slow month for me, I had time to watch the full ‘Woodstock, The Movie’ while my wife was at work😅. I thought it be cool to do a video analyzing the movie as it goes along, pointing out who’s who. There is a lot of close-ups of people wandering around but I’m pretty sure the majority of these guys/gals are key people involved with the production and I thought it would be interesting to research this, which you’re very good at, and identify as many of these individuals as you can 👍.
what a lovely tribute to Cass Elliot. she sings beautifully, doesn't she? I'd love to see a bit of what remains of the Zappa Lodge, so I'll be going through your other videos. thank you for the visuals and the story telling 💖
Thanks, and you'll definitely see quite a bit of the old Zappa place when you get to that Episode th-cam.com/video/rZBe9wIPuFU/w-d-xo.html
This one has a lot of one side of the old Zappa house and the old pool. th-cam.com/video/QbYmUstyiX4/w-d-xo.html
Billy - This is fantastic!! It's fun to see you had an exchange with Owen on Facebook!! Your's and Juliet's music goes so well with the episode - very complementary!!!
Thanks, Rick! We had a lot of fun with all of this.
Thanks for the video, awesome
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Fantastic
Thank you so much 😀
Enjoyed the episode. The word on the door at 10050 Cielo Drive is clearly PIG.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Such an interesting video!
Ohh to be there, during the 60’s
I understand Cass. We both have food issues.
Another great episode and I'm hooked on this series! Cass Elliot WAS The Mamas & The Papas and because of her larger than life persona and vocal talent she could totally eclipse John Philips and his narrow bias!! Thanks for bringing the memory of her to life in this video!
Our pleasure. Thank you for watching!
Am a 72yr old in uk..gotta get to laurel canyon before it's too late..rock on
I hear you. It's changing rapidly every single year. The older homes are being torn down and giant mansions are coming in and covering everything. Thanks for watching!
Very nice 👍
Excelente thanks
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
I just tuned in, and already I get the feeling that this will be meatier than the Laurel Canyon doco produced by Epix.
Haha, could be. It will most definitely be a lot more DIY, if you know what I mean. Thanks for watching and we hope you like it.
@@memoryfield From reading about LC, it seemed to me a lot was left out from that doco. As though it may've partially been a vanity/flattery project, does that make any sense?
@@memoryfield and it seems, to paraphrase John Cleese, that if you want to get anything done in this country, you've got to do it yourself till you're blue in the mouth, lol!
@@l.a.gothro3999 Yes, it does make sense. Unfortunately, I find that about half the people who watch these videos complain because I don't spend enough time talking only about the music. The other half seems to only want conspiracy theories and all the gory details and dirty laundry. There's just SO MUCH information from this area that in order to thoroughly cover every single aspect I would have to quite my day job and do nothing but make about 50 more videos in this series to cover all of it in all of its totality. There's no way that can be done. Not by me anyway. Some of the more fringe characters were left out as well because I just simply ran out of time in LA. And money, lol. I'm not even from LA!
I read somewhere that Cass went through a period of depression after Denny refused to marry her. He talked a bit about it in a biopic on the Mamas & Papa's. My opinion of John Phillips hit a new low when I read about his drug escapades with Keith Richards (bio-book "Life") in the late 70's.
Yeah, John was some piece of work. That's for sure. So much drama involved in that little group of four, it's amazing they ever got anything recorded at all. They didn't seem like they were really built to last as a highly functional music group.
@@memoryfield I just read recently that John Phillips "estate" (aka his drug-den) in Old Greenwich CT is on the market for a mere 3.7 million. You should buy it ! Lots of room for a studio etc. I lived about 10 miles away back in the late 70's. I remember hearing about his "intervention" from friends of my mother's who did domestic work in the area. The house was so trashed that it was considered a health hazard and was wrapped with yellow police tape and bio-hazard markings. Now it's part of R&R history. 196 Shore Rd, Old Greenwich Ct.
Good Lord, that sounds awful. What did he have, a meth lab in there?
@@memoryfield i heard the house was polluted with used syringes, urine, feces and vomit and a couple of dead cats. It was quite the gossip news and made the local papers. No pictures of the inside .Lots of pictures of John and the band.
May I suggest the Dylan New York folk era for your next info play list. So many ppl stemmed from there like Gordon Lightfoot for example. I venture to say your analysis would go deeper than what has been produced so far
To put it bluntly. . . Cass Elliot made the Mamas and Papas, and I'm willing to be that John hated that and not for nothing who was he to complain about her looks, he was nothing to look at, and he had bad teeth. :)
Really like your music you created for this series. Great job! Notice you wear a Griz hat sometimes. I was a Missoulian for many years from about 1993-2000.
Thanks and yes, we were in Missoula for about 7 years from 2000 - 2007. I went to grad school there, School of Forestry.
What is with the fires in this area??? There have been so many in just the 2 episodes I have watched so far!
Wood shingle roofs, houses build way too close together, windy roads that made it difficult for fire trucks to navigate and highly flammable eucalyptus trees in the area. All make for a very bad combinations for massive and terrible fires.
There was a free book online, the first one on the subject of the Laurel Canyon music scene written by a guy from Torrance (close to me) 20± years ago that I don't have access to right now but the connection (besides music) of all these iconic artists was also their parents and their employ in US Military Security which can't be coincidence. Key word ALL
All of their parents were Gov.employed. His book was written chapter by chapter and published online and made me weep.
.Its a taste you can never un-see. I have the PDF somewhere and pa girlfriend rinted it out too knowing it would disappear and it has. Its just a part of the story you should be aware of . There seems to be way too many new books written about the Canyon but none like this. Once he- you, put it all together you'll understand how we ended up right where we are at now. A place I never dreamed wed go. And it all fits ...as far as the putrid state of the mainstream news media spewing propaganda about our squeaky clean military who can do no wrong ever. Thank you tor your service training children to kill. Bla bla bla. Shoot me NOW.
oh yea Lookout Mountain was an advanced military movie (and audio) special effects studio don't ya know. Right smack dab in Centerville. As a boomer musician growing up here this all broke my heart.
l,ll look for the PDF (on an old hard drive) for ya.
Life tends to dissapoint us.
ELLEN was all you said. Thank you for doing her what she deserved .KINDNESS. But the truth was coming out. Rather,shocking to me,but open party door” lots of money she maybe had shady” ppl.
You are correct about her H use.
She got very into the darkness.
But SHE PROSED TO DENNY!
HE REFUSED, THANKS FOR THE CREEQUE ALLEY SONG SHADE! IKR?
As it’s true ICONICS NEVER REALLY DIE AS YOULL Know.
Anyway great loss
To
A lovely intelligent TALENTED LADY RIP ELLEN! 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️❤❤❤🔮🔮✌️🌟⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I can watch this on my PC but for some reason cannot watch episode 1 on the tv.
Believe it or not, there's actually a possible reason for that. It's because apparently someone sent a complaint to TH-cam about a reference we made to the use of drugs contained within this particular video. So TH-cam (Google) decided that the episode had to be changed over to "sensitive content" and/or "adult-oriented material not suitable for minors". That's the only reason we can think of that it's available on a password protected PC and not necessarily on a television. What's funny is that there are many, many other references made to drug-use in just about every single other episode in this series and none of them fall into this same category. I mean, come on, it was the late 1960's for crying out loud. LOL.
Great watching this again Billy, with the wee add on. I'm hooked on " old Hollywood". Do you have any plans on v/logs about the old actors and where they lived.
Not at the moment, but you never know. If time and money permits. :)
Cass Elliot looked fantastic with that weight loss!
I'm considering a motorcycle trip for my son and I.
What hotels are good to stay at that aren't to far from the area?
Are there places to pull over, park and walk?
I stayed at a Best Western, 7212 Sunset Blvd. that was very affordable compared to that whole area. Very close to the south entrance to Laurel Canyon. Still not cheap, though. As for the canyon itself, there's really no rhyme or reason to any of it back there. It's just a hodgepodge of little roads and every now and then you'll find a spot to pull over and park. The Canyon Country store has a parking lot but again, it can be difficult to walk anywhere from that spot because the main road thru the canyon is just jam-packed with high traffic at all hours of the day. There are NO sidewalks anywhere in that canyon. People walk on the roads. The further you get up in elevation, the quieter and less crazy it seems to get.
My great grandmother and great grandfather Kenneth Vane Redpath, built their home in Laurel Canyon in about the very early years of the 1900's. My grandmother grazed her horses at the corner of Ventura Blvd and Balboa. She had a pet deer for 21 years at her home in Laurel Canyon. Her home had a turret in the front and it was on a corner. Inside there was a neat fire place with little shelves on it. Above your head was a cat walk that went from her bedroom to a room over the kitchen. Grandma Ethel Ellingston went to Hollywood High School and lived until her 68th high school graduation. Or there about’s. Great great grandma Sarah Baker Swain Lufkin lived under the "d" of the Hollywood sign on the Hollywood Hills, on Tuxedo Dr. Grandpa Redpath had various jobs as a food broker and he was in charge of circulation of the L.A. Times News Paper. Grandma Ethel and Grandpa Harry used to court one another by taking walks up Laurel Canyon…..unchaperoned! Grandpa Harry had holdings in Nome, Alaska that a banker handled for him after his parents died until grandpa Harry was of age. But they absconded with his money and started the Los Angeles Times News Paper‼️😠. FYI 😊 Ms. Jay Karen.
Such great info in all of that! Wish there was a known address to that house in Laurel Canyon that your grandparents owned. I can think of about 4 right off hand that I've seen that might match that description with the turret and being on a corner. I saw a few and some of them ended up on camera in this series.
@@memoryfield I’ve only watched #1, I’ll watch the others and let you know if I see it.
@@jayshelton2765 Cool! Make sure you use the Playlist function and you'll be able to see them all in order and not miss any episodes. 😃
The street "Redpath", is my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother Kenneth and Lottie Redpath, or in Scotland it is pronounced Ridpeth which meant "The Reed Path". It was a village of people who lived where you go through the reeds on a path. Through the years their name wound up being Redpath.
Oh, there is most definitely a long road in there known as Ridpath Drive and Episode 3 (both parts) cover it quite extensively. But I have to tell you, my memory of that street is that there were really no super old houses there that looked any older than the 1950's. If your grandparents lived on Ridpath in the early 1900's then most likely that house is long gone now. There are several houses on that street that are ultra-modern and probably were built very recently and on the same lots where some very old houses used to sit.
John Phillips also looked like a dufus always wearing that silly fur hat.
Agreed. LOL.
The stories of Scotty Bowers put that place on the map
Great Documentary. I guess a good lesson is do not rent from Harry Nillson.
I believe Harry Nilsson owned 7708 Woodrow Wilson and was leasing it out to his best friend Ringo when the fire happened. Nice series -- speaking of Harry and Ringo, I'd enjoy a Hollywood Vampires episode.
Take a look at Episode 4 th-cam.com/video/dlBWTaNP5pM/w-d-xo.html There's some John Lennon/Hollywood Vampires info on that one.
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Why wouldnt the ghost be Natalie Wood ? She played the piano too.