A whole lot of people seem to be having problems with the LiteRadio. That's really disappointing. This is always the big issue with recommending a BetaFPV product. When they are good, they can be very good, but then somebody at the factory falls asleep, and quality goes down. If BetaFPV manages to get their quality back up, the LiteRadio will be a solid buy for $40. But it seems like it might be better to give it a pass right now.
Hey JB, great video as always, may I ask you the question (since you used both for a long period): Would you swap over from a X9D SE (Carbon) with Tracer to a Tango 2 or Tx16s Max (or even normal)? I am a thumber and I have never flown a tx16s and I guess I am somewhat fine with my x9d, but if money wasnt problem, is it worth all the said benefits to go buy the tx16s? Would love to get an answer form you this day, since its 11.11 :D Happy flying!
I have the little radio and besides one switch that was not working that only needed to be unplugged and plugged again I’m still really happy with it , Specially for the price.
Yeah, that's why I've never bought a BetaFPV product in the nearly 4 years I've been in the hobby! Too many complaints, issues with this or that, poor designs, burning up this component, shitty reviews, etc, etc, etc. There always seems to be some reason I've chosen something else! They really need to tighten up the quality control, or somethin'! 😩
I saw the poor reviews but just bought the Literadio 2 anyway as an upgrade to the Tinyhawk rtf kit radio- gigantic upgrade, good quality, couldn’t be happier. Thanks for this video as a beginner I’ve been debating myself between the RM and the Tango II and this video was great for breaking down the key differences.
Radiomaster and Jumper are basically the same radio, except the internal cables. In that case Radiomaster had the advantage of learning from Jumpers mistakes before release. The supply of new cables and other upgradable parts was really quick and affordable as credit towards Jumper.
Out of the drone community JB is my absolute favorite TH-camr. I love it when people make me smarter, definitely the kind of people I like to surround myself with
For me X9D Plus SE 2019 with the Crossfire Micro TX is my choice.. It not big like Radio master and I like that. I think the combo is just so clean and the X9D is such a good reliable radio with all the functions I need. Combined with CF I'm set to fly anywhere anytime.
I actually just got my Tango 2. I didn't feel like I needed one because my Taranis has never let me down but I ended up wanting smaller to reduce bag space. I could not be happier with this thing! I fly a mix of pinch and thumb depending on my mood and I thought it was a little off pinched but could still do it fine. I just changed to the clear case and decided to get the ummagrip tape for it. It is so bloody stuck in my hands now and pinching feels 100 times better now. That tape is worth every penny on the Tango 2!
I've had my Frsky QX7 for nearly 4 years. Updated the Gimbals long ago, and it's a great radio. I still have several XM+ and R-XSR receivers, but I ditched my R9 gear, used it on the Crossfire Exchange program, and completely converted over to Crossfire! Sent them my R9 module and 7 R9 receivers, got their full 50% trade in, and ended up with the new V2 module and 5 receivers for $100 shipped! Couldn't ask for a better deal or a better system! Solid as a rock and I'll never look back or at any Frsky receivers, and their INCREDIBLY FOOLISH change over to ACCESS and the confusion and rock solid domination of the radio and receiver category they had and have obviously lost, every again! Frsky has got to be hurting with they're stupid move of total confusion for everyone, even JB! And, as we all know, you confuse JB, and you've done something super stupid and super wrong! lol 🤔😳🙄
I want to thank you, and really all the FPV community on YT and forums. I purchased the DJI FPV combo as well as a Nazgul 5hd v2. I've spent the last week flying in simulators and going down the FPV rabbit hole. I've learned a lot, I decided on the TX16s, I even used your link to purchase. Now if only the Xfire tx and rx sets were in stock in the US or the DJI V2 controller worked with Caddx/vista I'd be out slapping tomorrow. Alas, either way I'll be ripping around eventually, I'll just bide my time in the sims and continue to take in all the info and advice.
Hi Joshua, with me it was the same reason why I left FrSky. The everlasting firmware updates and the problems in the EU with LBT / FCC mode gave me the rest. I gave all FrSky receivers to young pilots and switched completely to Crossfire. Recently I bought the Tango 2 for trips with the bike where space is limited. My standard radio is still the Taranis X9d with HAL effects gimbals and the Crossfire module. Happy flying!
Got my TX16S on the weekend (getting back into RC for the first time since high school, when I only got to try friend's setups occasionally)... only used with the Liftoff simulator so far (will be progressing to a trashcan then "full size" quads), but I'm loving it so far. Super jealous of the purple bling but can't justify the cost for pure cosmetics.
I have flysky for whoops, and the dji controller for my bigger quads since they’re all HD. Apparently flysky is lower latency than other protocols. And no doubt it’s nice having flexibility with opentx but I decided to go the expensive easy route with dji. Makes building so easy and binding is hassle free.
I got the Jumper T18 but I plan on modding most of it. Take out the MPM inside and put TBS tracer inside and TBS crossfire in the back. Change the scroll wheel for the metal one in the Radiomaster, change the plastic folding thing for the Radiomaster metal parts... Lots to do to have the perfect radio!
Ok lemme tell you something but don't judge... My favorite radio is the beta fpv lite radio 2 se. I am a racer and basically I need 4 switches (2 that are 2 position and 2 that are 3 position) and good gimbals. I have tried countless radios but my racing radio is the beta fpv.
4:10 When you order a TX16s and you want to have different colors and faceplate schemes than the standard combinations offered, order the radio with the faceplate scheme you want then go online and look for “replacement parts” and you can find all of the different anodized color options as well as different leather grips. Idk why those key words work over searching for “upgrades” but it does especially if you order from banggood.
I bought the tx16s right after they added the 2nd speaker, but I sold it because the gimbals felt way to loose. I recently purchased and received the tx16s max...wow, what a difference in gimbal feel..a bit more friction, and very smooth.
Me too! Still rolling x9d plus with full size crossfire! the gimbals still feel amazing, switches work, so I just don't see the reason to even buy a new radio yet..... But I don't fly any 2.4 and I definitely don't use frsky's receivers
Thanks for mentioning the FrSky thing. I invested heavily in the FrSky environment (R9 and XM), which worked great ...then things changed. I still fly my quads with those FrSky setups, but switched to Tango (crsf) moving forward. My accst FrSky radio is very well built, but I’m not upgrading to the newer protocol. Seems like more of a money grab than tech improvement, as has been suggested. FrSky needs to clean up the puke they created if they want to stay in the biz.
Exactly. They created this mess and screwed their customers over in order to lock out competition. I don't care what kind of products they make, they're a really scummy company.
I have my LR2 bound to several different quads - there's just no simple switching back and forth, i.e., if two drones are bound and turned on, two drones will react. I'm pretty sure that's what you meant, but I didn't infer it as such. :) Be forewarned, however, that BetaFPV is or was having a huge QC problem with the wires coming loose from the gimbal pots. Not an easy soldering fix if you're new to soldering as the wires are very small and delicate. BetaFPV did send me new gimbals, but it too - and no hyperbole - 5 months to convince and then receive. YMMV. Thanks for all you do Joshua! You've made me a much more informed user.
The BetaFpv Literadio allows for lots of mods. There is a thread on rcgroups named "Betafpv literadio advanced mods" . There they tell you how to add a lot of options to this tiny radio: add LiIon internal battery, attach oled screen and OpenTX buttons, attach external module, attach microSD card for LuaScripts, switch the gimbals to hall effect ones. Of course the total cost will be double, or triple from the initial 40$, but you will have so much functionality in such a tiny package.
Great video . I just got fed up with the x9d plus and after watching your videos on the radio master t16 max after watching your ultimate shopping list I just got rdq to ship me one. And yes after watching your video waaaaayyy back on rdq I’ve spent millions with them like just bought the hdo2 and the radio master max.
I bought a radiomaster tx16s and i love it. I have the radiomaster 2s 5000mah battery for it and i dont haven't charge it at all for some time. Best of all, connecting my frsky rxsr with fport setup wasnt that bad and i was able to upgrade the firmware through the radiomaster, because the frsky rxsr came with the jport update wire in the package. The only issue i am having is figuring out why i am not getting the battery info from the quad to show on the radio...
Great video. I’ve had a Taranis X9D+ for maybe 6 years now. I’ve only actually had one FrSky RX which is the L9R and never had to mess with firmware. I’ve also used it with an EZUHF JR module, again with no messing. But in the last week I have finally got round to building various things and needed a bunch of new receivers. I bought some radiomaster R168’s because they were advertised as “EU LBT”. I wasn’t actually sure which firmware my Taranis had. Long story short, NIGHTMARE! I had no idea that it only is the EU and Non EU but there is V1 / V2 which don’t play together. My radio was actually non EU so at first I just flashed it with the latest EU LBT then spent an hour trying to bind the R168’s. I’ve actually learnt more about open TX and FrSky firmware in the last 2 days than I have known since getting this transmitter and I finally ‘get it’. Now I understand it I have no real reason to move to anything else but I completely understand not recommending it now to people who aren’t already invested.
I started out from a Flysky i6 last Dec 2019 with a tinywhoop. Then November 2020 I bought an iFlight Nazgul5 v1 4S. Now a few days ago I received my RadioKing TX18S, was planning to switch to FrSky receiver originally, but I was pushed by my FPV friends to try Crossfire rx and get a crossfire module for it. TX18S performs well on my Flysky Fli14+ rx out of the box. This is also my first experience setting up a OpenTx radio 😅 (kind of challenging). But I have to say goodbye to my RadioKing TX18S, since one of my friend will buy it from me, now I'm waiting for my TBS Tango 2 to arrive from the mail. 😅
Love my Tango 2 with multi protocol module - iRange IRX4 lite installed inside. Can’t beat the form factor and can fly almost anything. Sold my TX16S when TBS came out with MPM support.
I mostly fly the dji controller mainly because I have more than a few vistas / air units . I love my jumper t16 I replaced the gimbals and the main ribbon cable only . Still have the ribbon and it works perfectly. I bought the tango 2 as well , my dx6 recently stopped working so I moved the models to the jumper . I’m looking at the ghost products . I like the dji because it it’s less parts to install/connect and just works
New to drone flying. (2 weeks). I have been reading Frsky as FireSky. 😄. Thank you for your videos. They have been very helpful in my new journey of drone flying.
You’ll have to pry my x9d Steele edition out of my cold dead hands :) i’m Glad when I was getting in to fpv the reviewers were heavy into frsky, just get the x9d, done. Now there’s so many choices!
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
In regards to the FrSky section, I have a couple of comments. 1) It's really not terribly complicated. Any 1.x.x version is self-compatible, 2.1.0 is only compatible with itself, and all 2.x.x version are once again self-compatible. That's it. Also, the common misconception that newer radios only run ACCESS is wrong. Only the X9 Lite will only run ACCESS from factory, and it can be flashed to run D16 and ACCESS like all the other newer radios. 2) All of the newer receivers, either the new R9M or Archer receivers will all have OTA updates, less latency, and improved range. 3) The misconception that FrSky will drop support of D16 receivers is unfounded. The last protocols they dropped support on were the V and D series. This happened over the span of 8 YEARS - significantly longer than either Radiomaster or Jumper have even been in business.
The only thing that annoys me is that its heavy and bulky with the either the full CF TX or micro TX. That tango 2 up to 500 mW looks sweet. No setup time.
@@icp-trek Mine is an older one, it only goes up to 250mw, but truth be told Ive been out way farther than I should be comfortable with. If you don't do any "real" long range flying, 250mw is plenty.
My LiteRadio 2 went bad in 5 weeks. The gimbals got jittery. Apparently this is a common problem with this radio if you search. No support from BetaFPV. I do not recommend buying one unless you are totally strapped. Yeah it’s a cheap toy ...so you get what you paid for. I got a T16S. It’s a very nice radio.
You are mistaken Joshua (never though I'd say this). True that for 2,4GHz only the new Archer series supports OTA, but on R9 (Access), OTA has been supported out of the box for over a year . Works great and no need to press Bind anymore. Uninverted F-Ports and what's all that with F-Port 2.0 ? EDIT: And none of those radios take away my X9D+ 2019 SE (be in with R9 or CrossFire in the back) ;)
It's true that R9 supports OTA. If you have the 2019 ACCESS R9 module and the R9 MM-OTA receiver. If you have the original R9 or the regular R9MM then no. And this gets to the heart of the problem. FrSky has fragmented their firmware ecosystem so much that it is infuriatingly difficult to help people figure out what works with what. I spend literally hours every week helping people answer the question, "Why won't my RX bind to my FrSky controller," and it's ridiculously and unnecessarily difficult.
I'm using TX16S from some time, and honestly i can't say anything wrong about this radio . Only issue i had was to switch my quads from RadioLink AT10II. The Multi module is not able to emulate AT series so i had to replace my RX's . I've mounted the Crossover RX XR602T-A with f-port support. Pretty cheap and very good performance receiver for flysky's AFHDS-2A protocol. According to satelite measuring my longest flight on this set was about 1050 m straight forward without any obstacle and my RSSI was about the midle of scale. I could fly further but i was a bit scared and my video feed was at the end of the range so i didn't test it further. By the way JB You could take a peek on this receiver. It's worth to spend some time on this one
I love the video game style but feel like I'm lacking some things....also I fly jets and planes so what would I want to fly all three jb? Definitely what that jb purple and gold !!!!!!! Love those motors man and now purple gimbles!!!! Awesome.....keep it coming man lol well I actually love red and blue is my favorite color so what do you get when you mix red and blue? You get purple!!!!!! So I'm down I need a radio that I'm gonna have for awhile as well as goggles so all I have to worry about is a kickass quadcopter!!!!! Preach jb!!!!I run mode 2 also....this may be crazy but I think I would like my throttle and yaw on the left and my pitch and spin the drone on the right but that's Me can it be done?????so I want open ti for sure
I still have two crap jumpers. Nether heli (and I wrote mike chin twice) nor grayson sent replacement cables. The RadioMaster came broken and you helped me fix along or after your own. Tango2 has too small of screen and to be honest can’t do more range than DJI Tx and good settings. But at least the controls are reliable. Plus weighs less. But for all the writing and more I have yet to get a set of the jumper replacement cables. I gave up and bought Tango2’s. RadioMaster scroll wheel is still crappy but use it when I need to emulate Spektrum. Sorry but both are inferior products and the Tango2 wins only by default and not completely on its own merits.
The only thing to ever drive me crazy was that I had a BNF quad with an XM+ that used FCC instead of LBT. So I flashed the LBT firmware on it, only to find out that it 2.1 and pre 2.1 are incompatible after I resoldered everything. Now I have to always flash the module firmware when I want to fly this particular quad... thanks Obama :(
I have flown with the X10s the past two years. I switched to the tx16s during the hype craze for it and was disappointed with the gimbal quality..went back to the X10s. Just recently switched to the tango 2, and am loving it!
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
@@dee1251 do you mean frsky x-lite ? If it’s that a module would be great, I had the x-lite with a crossfire module and it’s really cool, I had sell it for buy the tango 2 because it’s more easy to put in the backpack for travel 😁
I'm not sure I agree with leaving out the FrSky stuff. The main complaint with the FrSky stuff is that the updating makes legacy products an issue; but if you have no legacy products, what's the issue? You can't use the Tango 2 with legacy FrSky stuff without buying a module either. So if you're buying a NEW radio, there's really no issue there. I'm currently using the X-Lite Pro (and the gimbals on it are a huge upgrade compared to the original and even as good as my Futaba 14SG) with R9 MLP and I don't really have any issues. All my R9 stuff updates OTA just fine, same as it would if I bought CF. CF is more popular but the R9 eco system of OTA stuff I have flown with mates on CF and I'm getting the same performance. A big difference for someone like me though, if you are also into planes, CF doesn't have any real plane based RX's; where as I can get a stabilised R9 STAB OTA RX and use the functionality of head tracking from the X-Lite Pro also. FrSky is ditching ACCST, which legitamately yeh, might be an issue for some if you have a huge fleet of older models on those receivers (you could update them but as you said, soldering for firmware, annoying) but they are doing ACCESS now, the ACCESS stuff is OTA and they have 2.4ghz rx's coming in the newer 250hz range that TBS and ImmersionRC are doing but without needing to buy new modules. I also have a bunch of legacy stuff; maybe I will change to Ghost? Or maybe I'll just change my models over to Archer OTA rx's For me I'm looking at what people are complaining about with FrSky but ignoring that you're running into complications with the other radios that are similar or different in that they require investing in a whole new ecosystem or mix and matching different protocols because to cover all bases but FrSky seems to be the one people are upset at this for?
Spend a few hours a week helping beginners with the question "I have a FrSky radio and receiver and I can't get them to bind" and you'll come to see my perspective. It's bonkers.
@@JoshuaBardwell @@JoshuaBardwell no I totally understand that; FrSky really needed to address that better in the transition from ACCST to ACCESS. The problem came about because they were locking out 3rd parties from using the ACCST protocol. If you purchase a radio tomorrow though and bought one of the newer FrSky radios, theres no reason there should be any problems going forward, like I said, its when you have to fumble around with legacy receivers all already installed. To me though, I had the same problem to an extent when I had to switch everything over to R9 (which would have been the same thing had I gone CF or Ghost).
Once again recommending the betafpv literadio 2 without talking about the ongoing issues. Received mine and one of the gymbal stop working after 4h of simu. Everyone is recommending it so I bought it being pretty confident. But, after looking into it on youtube and posting my issue on facebook groups, lots of people are having the same issue or related ones! Cables not solder correctly or too short and get ripped off, on mine the potentiometer gave up. Looks like they don't have any quality control, or a really bad one. And I'm not talking about their horrible customer service... They send me a new gymbal, sure, but when I buy an advanced kit 2 to get into the hobby, I'm not planning or diving into soldering, or replacing parts. And the person I talked to by mail was quiet rude. All the issue of other people seems to have been in the last four months, so I don't know, maybe for that price they cut on quality control and there's a lot of bad radio getting out. Still, it's a shame for a company like that, and I'm surprise none of the big youtubers are talking about this.
The Archer M+ receiver is $11 on Banggood right now. At that price, Access is looking like it might be better than ACCST, and maybe even worth your money. I had to flash the internal module on my radio to the latest firmware, but other than that it just worked.
Also there’s a part on eBay you can buy to give your radiomaster tx16s a removable antenna. You just need that part and a ufl connector. You can search “radiomaster tpu” to find it
I'm still using the initial version of the Jumper t16 with the upgraded ribbon cable, until now it's still running fine even though this tx has fallen more than once
I have the jumper 18pro but I'm going back to futaba. I have a 18SZ coming in the mail and will be adding crossfire to it since it's got a firmware update for it. I've always used futaba for a surface radio and I like their OS.
Joshua, I appreciate the honesty about FrSky. I bought the r-xsr and got bit by their firmware BS. I would really like your thoughts on the Jumper R1F, their $14 f-port receiver, and anything else that is out there. I simply don't trust Fr-Sky and am looking for alternatives. I fly a lot of smaller quads and don't necessarily have space for a 900mhz antenna. When I get to the point that I actually need a software update on my Taranis, I will probably buy the Radiomaster, or whatever is best at that point. Great video as always, Thanks!
Moved from my hall effected Qx7 to the Tbs tango 2 with mpm no looking back, I feel it gives me better control and a buttery feel I never experienced with the upgraded Qx7. Thanks Trappy.
Really? I want to crossfire and it seems like a nightmare with the Qx7. Which is a bummer because I just installed the Hall gimbals. How's the battery on the T2? Also are you a pincher? I'm a thumber 😎. Tks
I can see why it's more cumbersome than having dedicated trim buttons, though. I was glad when I found out about this feature - not that I own any planes, but maybe I will in the future. I'd say the trim function is there, and it works. The audio hints are very good.
Crossfire FrSky resonated with me as a total noob, I had already purchased my Frsky X9D and needed to know which receiver was the best for my setup ( I need a MultiMod too) Cheers Josh!!!
k, used your link,, just ordered the Radiomaster TX16x v3 from RaceDayQuads... Lol,, time to save some hassle and update from my old XR9 pro, I have a feeling it might be like night and day.
I bought beta fpv lite 2 and gimbals (pots) came faulty out of the box. 2 of them. I've got a full refund but I struggle to get the right size/type of pots as a replacement. But getting a TX16S hall with crossfire, can't wait to get it! 🙂
Thank you for an interesting review of current radios. I’m using a Taranis X9D which I’ve had since they first came out and have a number of receivers. With the introduction of the LBT protocol, the changes to the firmware and now the use of Access protocols I dare not add to my collection. I may as well draw a line under Frsky and start with another system altogether. That means your review is particularly useful.
Tango 2 is the one I prefer perfect for me but only with the crossfire. I’ve got also for the the other quad a Tx16s mainly for the tiny whoop inside, great radio but too heavy for me. On the field the tango is,easiest to use
The Frsky lite was suppose to be the entry level tx at that time and i held back because Xfire was costing more . But i'm glad i waited and true enough i did get a xfire w a TX16s. I really would be regretting it if i got the Frsky. Thanks for the reviews and the updating us all on features pros and cons of all that is out there !
R9mm had ota updates before I switched to crossfire.. also x9d se is the best radio I’ve ever used - makes jumper feel like a toy- shouldn’t omit ppl from a “best” list just because you feel some type of way about them 🤷♂️ imo at least
Only the new 2019 r9 had OTA. Once again really confusing. Which r9 module do you have the access version or the accst version? Did you accidentally buy the non OTA receiver?
Nice review josh. Call me “old school,” but I’m perfectly good with my XD9+ with the original crossfire module. Yes it’s can be really annoying when it comes to programming your switches but once your past that it’s an amazing radio. I couldn’t adjust very well with those new “gamer” style radios cause I love my wings as much as my quads, I need the trim switches and I also pinch. So it’s pretty cool seeing all the different options for the r/c flying Community and it’s pretty amazing seeing all the cool new technologies. Thanks for another good video with great info josh, keep up the good work.
Thanks Joshua for your amzing videos ! I have a dilema about what to do because I have a Futaba T8J for years now and I never got the courage to sell it to go with crossfire system. Now the radiomaster T-16S is a great deal and I wanted to have your opinion about switching from Futaba T8J to T-16S. I know that Futaba is not very popular in north america considering the price and compatibility but now I feel like its the time to move on and get a new radio. What is your opinion about the Futaba T8J ? Do you think I should do the move and go with the T-16S or keep it ? I have 5 quads with Futaba receivers and 2 other quads with the DJI system. Thanks in advance for your time and devotion to the hobby ! One of your best fans fo sho :). Any constructive comments from your viewers are also welcome !
I've been rocking the frsky x9 lite for about a year now and I haven't had many problems with it. Updating the receiver was a nightmare due to the fact that I don't actually own a servo connector. I will buy the crossfire lite module asap because I would rather pay $130 for crossfire than have to deal with frsky.
Joshua: I'm guessing you did this video before receiving the new Radiomaster TX12, which I feel truely deserves to be in this lineup with your experience to guide us in the pros and cons of it compared with the others. Though I have not received mine yet, I ordered the Radiomaster TX12 last week. Understand that I could never afford the FrSky models, the Jumper models, or the earlier Radiomaster models. I got the Jumper multiprotocol module but was disgusted with hoop jumping download that was necessary to get it to work. I have been using all the versions of the discontinued Hobby King 9x, 9xR, & 9xR Pro models for years with satisfactory results. So, when is your review of the Radiomaster TX12 coming out? Love your clear, frank discussion, excellent photography, and your participation in the Duke Univ pro visit and seminar rocked! - Jim
I don't have specific plans to review that model. I reviewed the jumper t12 a while back. The size of the radio is smaller than I personally prefer. If you want something for travel or for smaller hands then it's a good choice.
Trappy said they weren’t planning on it in one of his couch talk live streams last week. So I wouldn’t wait. The tango 2 is the best controller I’ve ever had and if you really want an international MPM for the form factor then there is a tutorial on reddit where a guy explains how to fit the iRangeX MPM inside the tango.
New to the hobby, and I got a Taranis X9D Plus 2019 this year. Your segment at the end rings true - the firmware setup and binding is a nightmare. The hardest part of my build was understanding ACCESS was the latest protocol, that it's only supported by some receivers, and that FCC / EU LBT is a thing. I got an R-XSR, and since I have a F4 had to faff about with inverting signals and F.port. It was a revelation when I finally saw those bars in the Betaflight receiver tab moving.
I had a lot of radios over the time (futaba t7, spectrum dx6i, og taranis, x9e, xlite, xlite pro, x9lite se, taranis x9d 2019) and now the Radiomaster tx16s. The versatility of opentx was great from the beginning and with the tx16s and the multi protocoll module it's all realy nice. But the tx16s is not flawless. First, the internal charging doesn't work on all radios, on some you have to remove two resistors. Another thing i have, is, that i sometimes loose the previously selected models after i turn on the radio again. This happens just sometimes but is super annoying in the field when it happens. So these are two issues that i have with my tx16s.
Unfortunately there aren't mods to replace the gimbals with ones that work properly. In 2020 nobody should buy a non-Hall gimbal radio, you'll grind those potentiometers down in a few weeks just playing in the sim..
I have the Tango 2; there seems to be updates each week and it isn't compatible with Open-Tx Companion so you have to programme everything on that tiny screen. With complex setups like iNav that's a nightmare. And the gimbal springs creak! The XF module on a Taranis is so much better. Agreed that FrSky screwed up with all that different firmware but everyone still uses their Rxs and the multi-modules seem to still have the same binding issues because the 'wrong' firmware is on the Rx.
Can you make a 350$ beginner's setup with everything (batteries, chargers, everything)? for people who are looking for a way into fpv like me. Please? I wanna see the best cheap gear!
The betafpv lite v2 i bought it as a beginner for my first radio for sim. After 1 week i had problems with it. In the sim it was stuttering. I thought my pc was too low spec (higher end gaming pc) in the end i found out that the gimbal contacts are badly soldered (some others have the same problem in the web) and the contacts are not good made. For some beginners that can allready solder (and remove the glue safety things on the gimbal contacts) its a real good starter radio. But for me after just 1 week in i was sad :-/. Just for sim i bought than FS-i6S it was just 50€. Which here in eu i payed around 40-45€ for the beta fpv lite. (Because its rarely available in the time of order)
A whole lot of people seem to be having problems with the LiteRadio. That's really disappointing. This is always the big issue with recommending a BetaFPV product. When they are good, they can be very good, but then somebody at the factory falls asleep, and quality goes down. If BetaFPV manages to get their quality back up, the LiteRadio will be a solid buy for $40. But it seems like it might be better to give it a pass right now.
Hey JB, great video as always, may I ask you the question (since you used both for a long period): Would you swap over from a X9D SE (Carbon) with Tracer to a Tango 2 or Tx16s Max (or even normal)? I am a thumber and I have never flown a tx16s and I guess I am somewhat fine with my x9d, but if money wasnt problem, is it worth all the said benefits to go buy the tx16s? Would love to get an answer form you this day, since its 11.11 :D
Happy flying!
Yea... But you didn't bring _that_ as your argument for why you can't recommend FrSky anymore 🤨
I have the little radio and besides one switch that was not working that only needed to be unplugged and plugged again I’m still really happy with it ,
Specially for the price.
Yeah, that's why I've never bought a BetaFPV product in the nearly 4 years I've been in the hobby! Too many complaints, issues with this or that, poor designs, burning
up this component, shitty reviews, etc, etc, etc. There always seems to be some reason I've chosen something else! They really need to tighten up the quality control, or somethin'! 😩
I saw the poor reviews but just bought the Literadio 2 anyway as an upgrade to the Tinyhawk rtf kit radio- gigantic upgrade, good quality, couldn’t be happier.
Thanks for this video as a beginner I’ve been debating myself between the RM and the Tango II and this video was great for breaking down the key differences.
I'm Joshua Bardwell, and you're gonna buy something today.
Literally laughed out loud.
@@mazaispiileens haha same.
FACT! I finally caved and purchased the RapidFire Receiver.
IKR, Just ordered a TX16S Hall Edition
🤣
Radiomaster and Jumper are basically the same radio, except the internal cables. In that case Radiomaster had the advantage of learning from Jumpers mistakes before release. The supply of new cables and other upgradable parts was really quick and affordable as credit towards Jumper.
Out of the drone community
JB is my absolute favorite TH-camr.
I love it when people make me smarter, definitely the kind of people I like to surround myself with
For me X9D Plus SE 2019 with the Crossfire Micro TX is my choice.. It not big like Radio master and I like that. I think the combo is just so clean and the X9D is such a good reliable radio with all the functions I need. Combined with CF I'm set to fly anywhere anytime.
I actually just got my Tango 2. I didn't feel like I needed one because my Taranis has never let me down but I ended up wanting smaller to reduce bag space. I could not be happier with this thing! I fly a mix of pinch and thumb depending on my mood and I thought it was a little off pinched but could still do it fine. I just changed to the clear case and decided to get the ummagrip tape for it. It is so bloody stuck in my hands now and pinching feels 100 times better now. That tape is worth every penny on the Tango 2!
I've had my Frsky QX7 for nearly 4 years. Updated the Gimbals long ago, and it's a great radio. I still have several XM+ and R-XSR receivers, but I ditched my R9 gear, used it on the Crossfire Exchange program, and completely converted over to Crossfire! Sent them my R9 module and 7 R9 receivers, got their full 50% trade in, and ended up with the new V2 module and 5 receivers for $100 shipped! Couldn't ask for a better deal or a better system! Solid as a rock and I'll never look back or at any Frsky receivers, and their INCREDIBLY FOOLISH change over to ACCESS and the confusion and rock solid domination of the radio and receiver category they had and have obviously lost, every again! Frsky has got to be hurting with they're stupid move of total confusion for everyone, even JB! And, as we all know, you confuse JB, and you've done something super stupid and super wrong! lol 🤔😳🙄
I want to thank you, and really all the FPV community on YT and forums. I purchased the DJI FPV combo as well as a Nazgul 5hd v2. I've spent the last week flying in simulators and going down the FPV rabbit hole. I've learned a lot, I decided on the TX16s, I even used your link to purchase. Now if only the Xfire tx and rx sets were in stock in the US or the DJI V2 controller worked with Caddx/vista I'd be out slapping tomorrow. Alas, either way I'll be ripping around eventually, I'll just bide my time in the sims and continue to take in all the info and advice.
Hi Joshua, with me it was the same reason why I left FrSky. The everlasting firmware updates and the problems in the EU with LBT / FCC mode gave me the rest. I gave all FrSky receivers to young pilots and switched completely to Crossfire. Recently I bought the Tango 2 for trips with the bike where space is limited. My standard radio is still the Taranis X9d with HAL effects gimbals and the Crossfire module. Happy flying!
Got my TX16S on the weekend (getting back into RC for the first time since high school, when I only got to try friend's setups occasionally)... only used with the Liftoff simulator so far (will be progressing to a trashcan then "full size" quads), but I'm loving it so far. Super jealous of the purple bling but can't justify the cost for pure cosmetics.
I have flysky for whoops, and the dji controller for my bigger quads since they’re all HD. Apparently flysky is lower latency than other protocols. And no doubt it’s nice having flexibility with opentx but I decided to go the expensive easy route with dji. Makes building so easy and binding is hassle free.
Yep I've got Flysky as well, I think its underrated, personally. I'm just wanting CRSF, which my current transmitter doesn't support :(
I got the Jumper T18 but I plan on modding most of it. Take out the MPM inside and put TBS tracer inside and TBS crossfire in the back.
Change the scroll wheel for the metal one in the Radiomaster, change the plastic folding thing for the Radiomaster metal parts... Lots to do to have the perfect radio!
Also, have you seen the Emax lite radio? It's slightly better than Beta's
Ok lemme tell you something but don't judge... My favorite radio is the beta fpv lite radio 2 se. I am a racer and basically I need 4 switches (2 that are 2 position and 2 that are 3 position) and good gimbals. I have tried countless radios but my racing radio is the beta fpv.
4:10 When you order a TX16s and you want to have different colors and faceplate schemes than the standard combinations offered, order the radio with the faceplate scheme you want then go online and look for “replacement parts” and you can find all of the different anodized color options as well as different leather grips. Idk why those key words work over searching for “upgrades” but it does especially if you order from banggood.
I bought the tx16s right after they added the 2nd speaker, but I sold it because the gimbals felt way to loose. I recently purchased and received the tx16s max...wow, what a difference in gimbal feel..a bit more friction, and very smooth.
Me too! Still rolling x9d plus with full size crossfire! the gimbals still feel amazing, switches work, so I just don't see the reason to even buy a new radio yet..... But I don't fly any 2.4 and I definitely don't use frsky's receivers
Thanks for mentioning the FrSky thing. I invested heavily in the FrSky environment (R9 and XM), which worked great ...then things changed. I still fly my quads with those FrSky setups, but switched to Tango (crsf) moving forward. My accst FrSky radio is very well built, but I’m not upgrading to the newer protocol. Seems like more of a money grab than tech improvement, as has been suggested. FrSky needs to clean up the puke they created if they want to stay in the biz.
Exactly. They created this mess and screwed their customers over in order to lock out competition. I don't care what kind of products they make, they're a really scummy company.
Just bought a tango 2 for my sim, excited!
Where did you get it? I've been trying to get one and it is out of stock everywhere
@@RicardoRodriguez11 just found it by google search 😆
Yea I still can't find any in stock either. :(
@@matel9477 contact tango and ask
I have my LR2 bound to several different quads - there's just no simple switching back and forth, i.e., if two drones are bound and turned on, two drones will react. I'm pretty sure that's what you meant, but I didn't infer it as such. :)
Be forewarned, however, that BetaFPV is or was having a huge QC problem with the wires coming loose from the gimbal pots. Not an easy soldering fix if you're new to soldering as the wires are very small and delicate. BetaFPV did send me new gimbals, but it too - and no hyperbole - 5 months to convince and then receive. YMMV.
Thanks for all you do Joshua! You've made me a much more informed user.
Man tango 2 has been the first radio I ever got and still driving it! 3 months later😂
The BetaFpv Literadio allows for lots of mods. There is a thread on rcgroups named "Betafpv literadio advanced mods" .
There they tell you how to add a lot of options to this tiny radio: add LiIon internal battery, attach oled screen and OpenTX buttons, attach external module, attach microSD card for LuaScripts, switch the gimbals to hall effect ones.
Of course the total cost will be double, or triple from the initial 40$, but you will have so much functionality in such a tiny package.
Great video . I just got fed up with the x9d plus and after watching your videos on the radio master t16 max after watching your ultimate shopping list I just got rdq to ship me one. And yes after watching your video waaaaayyy back on rdq I’ve spent millions with them like just bought the hdo2 and the radio master max.
I bought a radiomaster tx16s and i love it. I have the radiomaster 2s 5000mah battery for it and i dont haven't charge it at all for some time. Best of all, connecting my frsky rxsr with fport setup wasnt that bad and i was able to upgrade the firmware through the radiomaster, because the frsky rxsr came with the jport update wire in the package. The only issue i am having is figuring out why i am not getting the battery info from the quad to show on the radio...
Great video. I’ve had a Taranis X9D+ for maybe 6 years now. I’ve only actually had one FrSky RX which is the L9R and never had to mess with firmware. I’ve also used it with an EZUHF JR module, again with no messing. But in the last week I have finally got round to building various things and needed a bunch of new receivers. I bought some radiomaster R168’s because they were advertised as “EU LBT”. I wasn’t actually sure which firmware my Taranis had. Long story short, NIGHTMARE! I had no idea that it only is the EU and Non EU but there is V1 / V2 which don’t play together. My radio was actually non EU so at first I just flashed it with the latest EU LBT then spent an hour trying to bind the R168’s. I’ve actually learnt more about open TX and FrSky firmware in the last 2 days than I have known since getting this transmitter and I finally ‘get it’. Now I understand it I have no real reason to move to anything else but I completely understand not recommending it now to people who aren’t already invested.
I started out from a Flysky i6 last Dec 2019 with a tinywhoop. Then November 2020 I bought an iFlight Nazgul5 v1 4S.
Now a few days ago I received my RadioKing TX18S, was planning to switch to FrSky receiver originally, but I was pushed by my FPV friends to try Crossfire rx and get a crossfire module for it.
TX18S performs well on my Flysky Fli14+ rx out of the box. This is also my first experience setting up a OpenTx radio 😅 (kind of challenging).
But I have to say goodbye to my RadioKing TX18S, since one of my friend will buy it from me, now I'm waiting for my TBS Tango 2 to arrive from the mail. 😅
Tango 2 with the multimodule is my favorite 😍
What's the multi module? Can you provide a link?
@@akashaschannel as JB mentioned ,he did a video on it. Search his homepage... it's there :)
Love my Tango 2 with multi protocol module - iRange IRX4 lite installed inside. Can’t beat the form factor and can fly almost anything. Sold my TX16S when TBS came out with MPM support.
I mostly fly the dji controller mainly because I have more than a few vistas / air units . I love my jumper t16 I replaced the gimbals and the main ribbon cable only . Still have the ribbon and it works perfectly. I bought the tango 2 as well , my dx6 recently stopped working so I moved the models to the jumper . I’m looking at the ghost products . I like the dji because it it’s less parts to install/connect and just works
New to drone flying. (2 weeks). I have been reading Frsky as FireSky. 😄.
Thank you for your videos. They have been very helpful in my new journey of drone flying.
Forgot to mention, the Betafpv Literadio 2 SE is my first controller.
You’ll have to pry my x9d Steele edition out of my cold dead hands :) i’m Glad when I was getting in to fpv the reviewers were heavy into frsky, just get the x9d, done. Now there’s so many choices!
Yeah same here, I got the x9d 2019 se when it just came out. Still going strong and only replaced the speaker for a louder and clearer one
The Tango2 is my personal favourite
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
@@dee1251 xlite has better hand grip design I think
"Crossfire...just works" no doubt!
In regards to the FrSky section, I have a couple of comments. 1) It's really not terribly complicated. Any 1.x.x version is self-compatible, 2.1.0 is only compatible with itself, and all 2.x.x version are once again self-compatible. That's it. Also, the common misconception that newer radios only run ACCESS is wrong. Only the X9 Lite will only run ACCESS from factory, and it can be flashed to run D16 and ACCESS like all the other newer radios. 2) All of the newer receivers, either the new R9M or Archer receivers will all have OTA updates, less latency, and improved range. 3) The misconception that FrSky will drop support of D16 receivers is unfounded. The last protocols they dropped support on were the V and D series. This happened over the span of 8 YEARS - significantly longer than either Radiomaster or Jumper have even been in business.
I’m really enjoying my X9D Plus SE 2019 with the Crossfire Micro TX.
The best for me no need multiprotocol
I like mine as well. It is super robust and works flawlessly
Same but with Crossfire Full tx.👍👌 so happy with my x9d plus
The only thing that annoys me is that its heavy and bulky with the either the full CF TX or micro TX. That tango 2 up to 500 mW looks sweet. No setup time.
@@icp-trek Mine is an older one, it only goes up to 250mw, but truth be told Ive been out way farther than I should be comfortable with. If you don't do any "real" long range flying, 250mw is plenty.
i bought the tx16s last week. I am a beginner in this hobby, I use the flysky fs i6 right now. Greeting from Argentina.
My LiteRadio 2 went bad in 5 weeks. The gimbals got jittery. Apparently this is a common problem with this radio if you search. No support from BetaFPV. I do not recommend buying one unless you are totally strapped. Yeah it’s a cheap toy ...so you get what you paid for.
I got a T16S. It’s a very nice radio.
You are mistaken Joshua (never though I'd say this). True that for 2,4GHz only the new Archer series supports OTA, but on R9 (Access), OTA has been supported out of the box for over a year . Works great and no need to press Bind anymore. Uninverted F-Ports and what's all that with F-Port 2.0 ?
EDIT: And none of those radios take away my X9D+ 2019 SE (be in with R9 or CrossFire in the back) ;)
It's true that R9 supports OTA. If you have the 2019 ACCESS R9 module and the R9 MM-OTA receiver. If you have the original R9 or the regular R9MM then no. And this gets to the heart of the problem. FrSky has fragmented their firmware ecosystem so much that it is infuriatingly difficult to help people figure out what works with what. I spend literally hours every week helping people answer the question, "Why won't my RX bind to my FrSky controller," and it's ridiculously and unnecessarily difficult.
I'm using TX16S from some time, and honestly i can't say anything wrong about this radio . Only issue i had was to switch my quads from RadioLink AT10II. The Multi module is not able to emulate AT series so i had to replace my RX's .
I've mounted the Crossover RX XR602T-A with f-port support.
Pretty cheap and very good performance receiver for flysky's AFHDS-2A protocol. According to satelite measuring my longest flight on this set was about 1050 m straight forward without any obstacle and my RSSI was about the midle of scale. I could fly further but i was a bit scared and my video feed was at the end of the range so i didn't test it further. By the way JB You could take a peek on this receiver. It's worth to spend some time on this one
I love the video game style but feel like I'm lacking some things....also I fly jets and planes so what would I want to fly all three jb? Definitely what that jb purple and gold !!!!!!! Love those motors man and now purple gimbles!!!! Awesome.....keep it coming man lol well I actually love red and blue is my favorite color so what do you get when you mix red and blue? You get purple!!!!!! So I'm down I need a radio that I'm gonna have for awhile as well as goggles so all I have to worry about is a kickass quadcopter!!!!! Preach jb!!!!I run mode 2 also....this may be crazy but I think I would like my throttle and yaw on the left and my pitch and spin the drone on the right but that's Me can it be done?????so I want open ti for sure
I still have two crap jumpers. Nether heli (and I wrote mike chin twice) nor grayson sent replacement cables. The RadioMaster came broken and you helped me fix along or after your own. Tango2 has too small of screen and to be honest can’t do more range than DJI Tx and good settings. But at least the controls are reliable. Plus weighs less. But for all the writing and more I have yet to get a set of the jumper replacement cables. I gave up and bought Tango2’s. RadioMaster scroll wheel is still crappy but use it when I need to emulate Spektrum. Sorry but both are inferior products and the Tango2 wins only by default and not completely on its own merits.
The only thing to ever drive me crazy was that I had a BNF quad with an XM+ that used FCC instead of LBT. So I flashed the LBT firmware on it, only to find out that it 2.1 and pre 2.1 are incompatible after I resoldered everything. Now I have to always flash the module firmware when I want to fly this particular quad... thanks Obama :(
I really want to get into FPV racing, and most channels I've seen doesn't give the info like you do. I'll be definitely subscribing to this channel.
Coming back to the hobby after a long hiatus. Let me put it this way my first receiver was a Focus 4 by hitec released in 1999 and I never bothered.
I have flown with the X10s the past two years. I switched to the tx16s during the hype craze for it and was disappointed with the gimbal quality..went back to the X10s. Just recently switched to the tango 2, and am loving it!
Yeah...I love my Radiomaster tx16s..❤
Love my Tango 2 🎮 the size is really cool for Travel !
Thanks for this vid' Joshua 😉
Do you know what the difference is between the Tango 2 and the Tango 2 Pro?
@@liamm347 you can fold up the stick on the tango 2 pro so it’s more easy to put in the backpack !
@@SiamFpv thanks!
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
@@dee1251 do you mean frsky x-lite ? If it’s that a module would be great, I had the x-lite with a crossfire module and it’s really cool, I had sell it for buy the tango 2 because it’s more easy to put in the backpack for travel 😁
I'm not sure I agree with leaving out the FrSky stuff. The main complaint with the FrSky stuff is that the updating makes legacy products an issue; but if you have no legacy products, what's the issue? You can't use the Tango 2 with legacy FrSky stuff without buying a module either. So if you're buying a NEW radio, there's really no issue there.
I'm currently using the X-Lite Pro (and the gimbals on it are a huge upgrade compared to the original and even as good as my Futaba 14SG) with R9 MLP and I don't really have any issues. All my R9 stuff updates OTA just fine, same as it would if I bought CF. CF is more popular but the R9 eco system of OTA stuff I have flown with mates on CF and I'm getting the same performance. A big difference for someone like me though, if you are also into planes, CF doesn't have any real plane based RX's; where as I can get a stabilised R9 STAB OTA RX and use the functionality of head tracking from the X-Lite Pro also.
FrSky is ditching ACCST, which legitamately yeh, might be an issue for some if you have a huge fleet of older models on those receivers (you could update them but as you said, soldering for firmware, annoying) but they are doing ACCESS now, the ACCESS stuff is OTA and they have 2.4ghz rx's coming in the newer 250hz range that TBS and ImmersionRC are doing but without needing to buy new modules. I also have a bunch of legacy stuff; maybe I will change to Ghost? Or maybe I'll just change my models over to Archer OTA rx's
For me I'm looking at what people are complaining about with FrSky but ignoring that you're running into complications with the other radios that are similar or different in that they require investing in a whole new ecosystem or mix and matching different protocols because to cover all bases but FrSky seems to be the one people are upset at this for?
Spend a few hours a week helping beginners with the question "I have a FrSky radio and receiver and I can't get them to bind" and you'll come to see my perspective. It's bonkers.
@@JoshuaBardwell @@JoshuaBardwell no I totally understand that; FrSky really needed to address that better in the transition from ACCST to ACCESS.
The problem came about because they were locking out 3rd parties from using the ACCST protocol.
If you purchase a radio tomorrow though and bought one of the newer FrSky radios, theres no reason there should be any problems going forward, like I said, its when you have to fumble around with legacy receivers all already installed.
To me though, I had the same problem to an extent when I had to switch everything over to R9 (which would have been the same thing had I gone CF or Ghost).
Just leave me alone already! I'll get out of your frig when I'm good and ready.
I was wondering who was on the shelf below gnawing on the pizza bone I dropped!
Once again recommending the betafpv literadio 2 without talking about the ongoing issues. Received mine and one of the gymbal stop working after 4h of simu. Everyone is recommending it so I bought it being pretty confident. But, after looking into it on youtube and posting my issue on facebook groups, lots of people are having the same issue or related ones! Cables not solder correctly or too short and get ripped off, on mine the potentiometer gave up. Looks like they don't have any quality control, or a really bad one. And I'm not talking about their horrible customer service... They send me a new gymbal, sure, but when I buy an advanced kit 2 to get into the hobby, I'm not planning or diving into soldering, or replacing parts. And the person I talked to by mail was quiet rude. All the issue of other people seems to have been in the last four months, so I don't know, maybe for that price they cut on quality control and there's a lot of bad radio getting out. Still, it's a shame for a company like that, and I'm surprise none of the big youtubers are talking about this.
Don't forget the t12 or t8 form factor which are a nice middle ground between the larger t16/18 and game pad style transmitters. 👍
i love my tango2, i fly hybrid pinch and it works amazing
The Archer M+ receiver is $11 on Banggood right now. At that price, Access is looking like it might be better than ACCST, and maybe even worth your money. I had to flash the internal module on my radio to the latest firmware, but other than that it just worked.
Tango 2 & the TX16S Max need to have a baby....it would be the sexiest controller yet 🤤
It's called the "tbs mamba", it's not out yet but it's be pretty much confirmed at this point
@@pastubbs any leaked photos or more information? That would be really sick!
@@MalexFPV unfortunately no but it's in the OpenTX source code and trappy has pretty mush confirmed it, no release date though
JB, can you please do another Jan 2022 Guide with the latest RC Controllers out there?
I’m digging the tango 2. I’m a long time gamer so it it peaks my interest
Also there’s a part on eBay you can buy to give your radiomaster tx16s a removable antenna. You just need that part and a ufl connector.
You can search “radiomaster tpu” to find it
the max is definitely worth it. i dont fly drones but ive tested it on larger nitro planes and the range and link
is awesome
I'm still using the initial version of the Jumper t16 with the upgraded ribbon cable, until now it's still running fine even though this tx has fallen more than once
Always learn from you...man are you detailed!
I have the jumper 18pro but I'm going back to futaba. I have a 18SZ coming in the mail and will be adding crossfire to it since it's got a firmware update for it. I've always used futaba for a surface radio and I like their OS.
Joshua, I appreciate the honesty about FrSky. I bought the r-xsr and got bit by their firmware BS. I would really like your thoughts on the Jumper R1F, their $14 f-port receiver, and anything else that is out there. I simply don't trust Fr-Sky and am looking for alternatives. I fly a lot of smaller quads and don't necessarily have space for a 900mhz antenna. When I get to the point that I actually need a software update on my Taranis, I will probably buy the Radiomaster, or whatever is best at that point. Great video as always, Thanks!
I just bought a tx16s. Not much time with it but it feels like a nice upgrade in my world
Moved from my hall effected Qx7 to the Tbs tango 2 with mpm no looking back, I feel it gives me better control and a buttery feel I never experienced with the upgraded Qx7. Thanks Trappy.
Really? I want to crossfire and it seems like a nightmare with the Qx7. Which is a bummer because I just installed the Hall gimbals. How's the battery on the T2? Also are you a pincher? I'm a thumber 😎. Tks
the Tango 2 can trim easily: just double press the scroll button. it tells you what you trim now by sound. easy. even blind
I can see why it's more cumbersome than having dedicated trim buttons, though. I was glad when I found out about this feature - not that I own any planes, but maybe I will in the future. I'd say the trim function is there, and it works. The audio hints are very good.
I love my TBS Tango 2. It just works..... And im a pincher....
The New FRSKY Archer receivers are working well for me.
Yes, and $10 a pop. Lovely
I Love my TX16S since its arrived on August. Awesome Radio for a awesome price.
Crossfire FrSky resonated with me as a total noob, I had already purchased my Frsky X9D and needed to know which receiver was the best for my setup ( I need a MultiMod too) Cheers Josh!!!
Just bought the new rose gold TX16S because it’s pretty and it had good reviews.
i was just about to replace my Frsky with something else. but then i decided to just buy a tracer and chuck it into the Remote.
k, used your link,, just ordered the Radiomaster TX16x v3 from RaceDayQuads... Lol,, time to save some hassle and update from my old XR9 pro, I have a feeling it might be like night and day.
I bought beta fpv lite 2 and gimbals (pots) came faulty out of the box. 2 of them. I've got a full refund but I struggle to get the right size/type of pots as a replacement.
But getting a TX16S hall with crossfire, can't wait to get it! 🙂
I had the betafpv lite 2 for 1 week and the USB cable input broke😥. So I bought the tx16s😃! Hope it is good when it arrives!🤞
I'm gonna buy TBS Tango 2 pro
Thank you for an interesting review of current radios. I’m using a Taranis X9D which I’ve had since they first came out and have a number of receivers. With the introduction of the LBT protocol, the changes to the firmware and now the use of Access protocols I dare not add to my collection. I may as well draw a line under Frsky and start with another system altogether. That means your review is particularly useful.
Great video again! Thanks for your opinion!
I have the X9D+ and X9E.
Gonna probably buy the TX16S MAX with ExpressLRS flashed frsky rx/tx :)
Tango 2 is the one I prefer perfect for me but only with the crossfire. I’ve got also for the the other quad a Tx16s mainly for the tiny whoop inside, great radio but too heavy for me. On the field the tango is,easiest to use
The Frsky lite was suppose to be the entry level tx at that time and i held back because Xfire was costing more . But i'm glad i waited and true enough i did get a xfire w a TX16s. I really would be regretting it if i got the Frsky. Thanks for the reviews and the updating us all on features pros and cons of all that is out there !
tango 2 all day, easy to pack up, waiting for 1W
The Mambo is in the TBS future.
Full size radio per Trappy.
Futaba FM 72mhz FG Gold Series. Simple to use with no Menus, no Belles, no Smells and no Voice Mail !
Just pre-ordered the tx16s max, the new gold color scheme looks sick!!!!!!!
Thanks, answered a number of questions - keep it up brother!
FrSky can create whatever great product they want. Won't touch whatever they make after they tried to kill Jumper with those letters.
just ordered a tango 2
R9mm had ota updates before I switched to crossfire.. also x9d se is the best radio I’ve ever used - makes jumper feel like a toy- shouldn’t omit ppl from a “best” list just because you feel some type of way about them 🤷♂️ imo at least
Only the new 2019 r9 had OTA. Once again really confusing. Which r9 module do you have the access version or the accst version? Did you accidentally buy the non OTA receiver?
Nice review josh. Call me “old school,” but I’m perfectly good with my XD9+ with the original crossfire module. Yes it’s can be really annoying when it comes to programming your switches but once your past that it’s an amazing radio.
I couldn’t adjust very well with those new “gamer” style radios cause I love my wings as much as my quads, I need the trim switches and I also pinch. So it’s pretty cool seeing all the different options for the r/c flying Community and it’s pretty amazing seeing all the cool new technologies.
Thanks for another good video with great info josh, keep up the good work.
Thanks Joshua for your amzing videos ! I have a dilema about what to do because I have a Futaba T8J for years now and I never got the courage to sell it to go with crossfire system. Now the radiomaster T-16S is a great deal and I wanted to have your opinion about switching from Futaba T8J to T-16S. I know that Futaba is not very popular in north america considering the price and compatibility but now I feel like its the time to move on and get a new radio. What is your opinion about the Futaba T8J ? Do you think I should do the move and go with the T-16S or keep it ? I have 5 quads with Futaba receivers and 2 other quads with the DJI system. Thanks in advance for your time and devotion to the hobby ! One of your best fans fo sho :). Any constructive comments from your viewers are also welcome !
I've been rocking the frsky x9 lite for about a year now and I haven't had many problems with it. Updating the receiver was a nightmare due to the fact that I don't actually own a servo connector. I will buy the crossfire lite module asap because I would rather pay $130 for crossfire than have to deal with frsky.
I pinch with the Tango. I have small hands but love the small form factor
Joshua: I'm guessing you did this video before receiving the new Radiomaster TX12, which I feel truely deserves to be in this lineup with your experience to guide us in the pros and cons of it compared with the others. Though I have not received mine yet, I ordered the Radiomaster TX12 last week. Understand that I could never afford the FrSky models, the Jumper models, or the earlier Radiomaster models. I got the Jumper multiprotocol module but was disgusted with hoop jumping download that was necessary to get it to work. I have been using all the versions of the discontinued Hobby King 9x, 9xR, & 9xR Pro models for years with satisfactory results.
So, when is your review of the Radiomaster TX12 coming out? Love your clear, frank discussion, excellent photography, and your participation in the Duke Univ pro visit and seminar rocked! - Jim
I don't have specific plans to review that model. I reviewed the jumper t12 a while back. The size of the radio is smaller than I personally prefer. If you want something for travel or for smaller hands then it's a good choice.
I'm waiting for the tango version that has that extra module built in, they must be working on that by now.
Trappy said they weren’t planning on it in one of his couch talk live streams last week. So I wouldn’t wait.
The tango 2 is the best controller I’ve ever had and if you really want an international MPM for the form factor then there is a tutorial on reddit where a guy explains how to fit the iRangeX MPM inside the tango.
New to the hobby, and I got a Taranis X9D Plus 2019 this year. Your segment at the end rings true - the firmware setup and binding is a nightmare. The hardest part of my build was understanding ACCESS was the latest protocol, that it's only supported by some receivers, and that FCC / EU LBT is a thing. I got an R-XSR, and since I have a F4 had to faff about with inverting signals and F.port. It was a revelation when I finally saw those bars in the Betaflight receiver tab moving.
🤔 cannot wait for:
Jumper T-Lite vs RadioMaster T8 PRO vs BetaFPV LiteRadio 2 moded by digaus
I had a lot of radios over the time (futaba t7, spectrum dx6i, og taranis, x9e, xlite, xlite pro, x9lite se, taranis x9d 2019) and now the Radiomaster tx16s. The versatility of opentx was great from the beginning and with the tx16s and the multi protocoll module it's all realy nice. But the tx16s is not flawless. First, the internal charging doesn't work on all radios, on some you have to remove two resistors.
Another thing i have, is, that i sometimes loose the previously selected models after i turn on the radio again. This happens just sometimes but is super annoying in the field when it happens.
So these are two issues that i have with my tx16s.
Have you seen the Lite Radio 2 “mods” for adding a screen and a module bay? They even link to that mod on the BetaFpv product page.
Why bother with mods? Just buy real radio..
@@edwinator46 yes. I have real radios too. But it’s fun to experiment with the technologies. That’s why it’s a hobby.
Unfortunately there aren't mods to replace the gimbals with ones that work properly. In 2020 nobody should buy a non-Hall gimbal radio, you'll grind those potentiometers down in a few weeks just playing in the sim..
I’m gunna get myself a new radio using JB’s link.
I have the Tango 2; there seems to be updates each week and it isn't compatible with Open-Tx Companion so you have to programme everything on that tiny screen. With complex setups like iNav that's a nightmare. And the gimbal springs creak! The XF module on a Taranis is so much better. Agreed that FrSky screwed up with all that different firmware but everyone still uses their Rxs and the multi-modules seem to still have the same binding issues because the 'wrong' firmware is on the Rx.
The multi module can bind to FrSky firmware 2.x now.
Use protocol Frsky2x not FrSky if the receiver has 2.x firmware.
Can you make a 350$ beginner's setup with everything (batteries, chargers, everything)? for people who are looking for a way into fpv like me. Please? I wanna see the best cheap gear!
I don't think I can bring a complete setup under 350. Maybe Emax Tinyhawk RTF kit.
@@JoshuaBardwell ok. UAVfutures did one I wanted to see your opinion. I understand it's difficult. I'll ask my parents for the emax tinyhawk rtf.
The betafpv lite v2 i bought it as a beginner for my first radio for sim. After 1 week i had problems with it. In the sim it was stuttering. I thought my pc was too low spec (higher end gaming pc) in the end i found out that the gimbal contacts are badly soldered (some others have the same problem in the web) and the contacts are not good made. For some beginners that can allready solder (and remove the glue safety things on the gimbal contacts) its a real good starter radio. But for me after just 1 week in i was sad :-/. Just for sim i bought than FS-i6S it was just 50€. Which here in eu i payed around 40-45€ for the beta fpv lite. (Because its rarely available in the time of order)