I'm Nearly BANKRUPT | The true cost of building a Skoolie

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  • @sbramel93
    @sbramel93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I gave up on my shuttle bus project after two years with little to show for it.
    I bought a Class C RV a couple months ago and have been full timing ever since. I’m very happy with my decision and have absolutely no regrets.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I keep seeing older rv vans for sale and I’m very tempted to just do that honestly. Simplicity is king

  • @satincheese
    @satincheese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sorry in advance if my reply comes off as negative but let this video be a warning for anyone who wants to get into bus conversion because unfortunately you've learned a lot of good lessons the hard way. IMO you should have sold the bus immediately after you parted ways and split the difference. I'm sure you are/were emotionally invested but if you had anything leftover you could've used that on a new build or a nonpayment for a van conversion/RV. As things currently stand you are on the hook for everything and she's basically getting alimony from you for two years meanwhile you've declared bankruptcy, have a 15k line of credit to repay and have 2X the amount in debt that you would've been if you cut your losses and sold. It's hard to speak on peoples relationships but I think getting lawyers involved and entangling your finances as an unmarried couple was a huge red flag, if either one of you were concerned about splitting expenses then someone should've made the exec. decision to take on the cost of materials, etc. I'm curious as to how you broke your brake line while trying to get it unstuck? Was the parking brake engaged or was it not in neutral? In regards to the build priority #1 should always be to get it functional/livable and the rest is a luxury. For example you could've started with a cassette toilet which are a fraction of the price and upgraded to a composting toilet at a later time. Idk if the 15k bus build videos are all blowing smoke or not b/c they probably didn't do their due diligence and gut to the studs or reinsulated properly where as it seems that you spared no expense, which good on you for doing it the right way but the right way is not cheap. I wish you the best but again it might be time to bite the bullet, cut your losses and pay off your debts. Best of luck.

  • @Capitanvolume
    @Capitanvolume 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    63k seems outrageous. Ive seen full diesel pushers, converted to motorhomes for half that. Even if they need work 10k goes a ways in repairs.

  • @asdf072xxp
    @asdf072xxp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The other people that did it for less, either: a) Lied. Either they didn't track all the expenses, or just outright fibbed to get more views. b) They let the deals guide their buying choices. Don't buy anything until it's nearly throwaway price.

  • @TheNikitis
    @TheNikitis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm building a bus, same model as yours. I had a computer issue that cost like $2k to fix. I needed king pin replacement which would of cost me $6k, but I built my own tool for $100 to push those out, and did the job myself, so I turned a 6k job to $100 plus time. Bought my bus for $3500, I've got about $9k into it and everything is stripped and painted. I have a forest, and a lumber mill. I will be able to get all my wood for free, minus time to mill the lumber. I have maybe 50% of the tools, and had to buy the other 50% of tools, but I plan to do a roof raise, and it will cost me another $2500 in materials, but I own a welder already and can weld. I also already had solar panels 2200 watts total, and a 3k watt inverter, I got for free as a hand-me-down. If I had to buy everything it probably would of cost me $27k, but since I'm able to source the wood and eletrical for free minus time, that's where I've saved money.
    I will be under $15,000 when i'm done.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My biggest cost was wood products so if you can mill your own, you will be way ahead. Best of luck on your build!

    • @eloyanzaldua7433
      @eloyanzaldua7433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great job. Just amazes me to hear so many people cry about their situations. I'm find it appalling to the real bus people!

  • @DJones_444
    @DJones_444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, so many thoughts during this video.
    -Ufta! that's a lot invested.
    -Give her the bus and walk away. start over. start small.
    -just keep it simple. why make a bus luxurious? (rhetorical). if you're rich, fine but if not, why bother.
    -It was $300 to paint my house last summer. 3 gal of primer, 3 gal of exterior paint. Why was bus paint so expensive? (rhetorical). yikes, that's crazy.
    -a really expensive place to take a shhitt. wow.
    -you really learned many lessons here; with relationships and spending.
    -Skoolies are great, "if you're made of money" -red/green show.
    -If I did the vanlife I'd live like foresty-forest or vancity-vanlife. No toilet, no expensive paint, flooring, or tile, etc.. Just a bed (or hammock), diesel heater, and crock pot, and I'd hit the road. Or hunker-down. Only making improvements for survival or as funds become available with profits, if any.
    -shouldn't all the upgrade spending be write-offs from your youtube business revenue. I assumed that's how the big channels did it. Chrome's van evolved over many years. He used vanlife to get out of debt. not the other way around.
    -I'm glad you're in a good place emotionally. Too many men are struggling out here.
    -I wish you the best. May the algorithm gods bless you with many views and fortune.

  • @digger450r
    @digger450r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's sad that we aren't seeing more of the bus, but it's good to hear you're in a better mental state. We're all rooting for you!

  • @Randy_4664
    @Randy_4664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Best of luck Adam, glad to hear you're hanging in there.

  • @Oscitant_Wanderer
    @Oscitant_Wanderer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Adam, you are literally one of my most favourite people. This can be worked out. Let’s do some ridiculous nonsense I believe in you because I’ve worked with you and I know how talented you are.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks maaan! Everything shall pass

  • @MoonMan129
    @MoonMan129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New to your channel, and I have always been inspired to build my own live-in bus. The message you communicated in this video was much more than i bargained for, but it inspired me to subscribe and follow your journey. I am on my own personal "life quest......ionmark" and I learnt that its never about how hard you can hit life.....its about how hard you can get hit by life, and continue to stand back up. Keep Strong

  • @RPINDUSTRIES477
    @RPINDUSTRIES477 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey seen your bus in sudbury! I love it looks nice 👍 😂❤

  • @Capitanvolume
    @Capitanvolume 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The floor breaking apart is normal. You have houshold flooring. Theres no temp fluctuations and your house isnt flexing and vibrating as bus does. You need to accept that or go to lyno

  • @polish-american8107
    @polish-american8107 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow! that's a powerful story. You've got what you need and are stronger than you know.

  • @pixiebusadventures936
    @pixiebusadventures936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad things are moving in a possitive direction for you Adam.

  • @PainiacZ
    @PainiacZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've said before. I bid and "accidentally " got a bus at auction for $2000. It has sat because of lack of time and money.

  • @zacharyparis4590
    @zacharyparis4590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems my first post vanished. As a fellow 2017 Chevy Volt owner and working on a 2004 International RE300, I recommend the r/Volt community for possible assistance. Tell them the codes and they may be able to give some temporary fix to get it going. Totally agree on the Skoolie building being expensive.

  • @Bees-knees99
    @Bees-knees99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a tough lesson to learn, but you are young and you have time on your hands to recover. It’s unfortunate Stephanie got to live in the bus for free, as it’s a depreciating value (unlike a home) so it’s not like she made an investment, however what’s done is done and sharing your story may help others learn not to make the same mistake.

  • @fo4imtippin
    @fo4imtippin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adam, you have a quality build. I watch a lot of tour videos and like myself, you dont want a pile of crap. You just lost ypur steady imcome stream. Be patient and you will have it back. Get back on your feet and drive on.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quality definitely has a cost. I’ve been hustling hard to get back on my feet. Won’t be to long till im back

  • @thetslabus
    @thetslabus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Those $15k builds you see are fairy tale stories. Most of them are eyesores to begin with and I'd be willing to make an educated guess that they're mechanically unsound and likely one of the contributing factors to why liability insurance in the States is so hard to obtain now. Almost every social media sob story begging for free mechanical help or crowdfunding is tied to a "budget build" where they started out with a $2k rust bucket and a Maxxforce with no insulation and water leaks everywhere. A couple years later when the Instagram lifestyle hasn't worked out and they can't make a living as social media influencers; they try to sell their moldy tin can with brake problems for $40k because it's "cute." I'm sorry to hear about your financial woes, but you'll come through the other end just fine by having built your rig correctly. If and when you decide to sell and pursue another project, it'll be worth something to recoup your investment because you took the time and expense to "do it right."

    • @Xorgye
      @Xorgye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This. Quality has different levels.
      But i also think its due to how he keeps books that the value of his bus is bloated.

  • @halleluYAH144
    @halleluYAH144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep chippin away at it. You'll get there!

  • @uncertainscientist
    @uncertainscientist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The part I'm the most upset about is the breakup deal. Nothing about that seens fair. The amount shouldve been based on the value of the bus and the terms are so loan sharky its wretched. I loved watching you all build it and so sad to see how it all turned out. Im glad youre doing well though and happy!!

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its a deal i agreed on at the time and I’m dedicated to following through with it. It truly sucks but i only have another year of payments and I’ll be in the clear.

  • @catiecottontail
    @catiecottontail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You answered your own question. The reason your bus cost 80k and others cost 15k is either a: theyre american so its 15k USD and b: you said yourself you have expensive taste. plywood and paint, very basic electrical (solar panels and a jackery for 3k tops), and a sink and composting toilet is all you need. We spent 15kCAD on materials total and 5k on the bus itself. The build was started last year and we hit the road in two weeks.
    If you NEED a full apartment and shower and all that fancy stuff i dont think the nomad outdoorsy lifestyle is for you. Perhaps its time to give up the bus and find a small van with better gas milage to build out cheap if you’re really dedicated to this lifestyle. Nothing fancy, the whole point is to get outdoors into nature, not to be just as comfortable in a house as you are in the bus.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. This bus was meant for 2 and is way too big and comfortable. A van is in my future. But first, i need to finish what i started.

    • @catiecottontail
      @catiecottontail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AdamandAtlas I think you should think about whether or not its financially worth it to finish. Hopefully you and Caitlyn will be happy, rooting for ya

    • @klardotsh
      @klardotsh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AdamandAtlas I'm gonna be real with you... backburner tiny house projects are a bear to finish. It's gotta be a primary focus, or it'll sit for so long it becomes a cash sink (moorage, parking fees, insurances, replacing parts that break due to weather, etc). My sailboat has been sitting moored for a year after I moved off of it (due to burning out on it so hard) with so many projects I "just need to finish so I can sell her for what I think she's worth", despite being very much mentally clocked out from it. I've finally accepted that it's time to sell her in "sailable, livable, but still project boat" condition, eat my losses (which will be even more now), and tackle my next venture in life (which I'm considering a bus for, thus finding this video!).
      I'm not saying that's what you should do with the bus. I'm just offering my perspective of what has happened to "a thing I just need to finish" after a full year of... well. Not getting there. Just a data point, a blip for you.
      Cheers man. I'll be rooting for you and subscribing to see what you do next, whatever form that takes.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @JoshKlar thank you for sharing your perspective! I use the bus every weekend so its not just sitting anymore but i know what you mean. Id love to sail someday. Trade? Haha

    • @klardotsh
      @klardotsh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamandAtlas A lot of things about the boat you'd feel right at home with - down to the DIY'd prismatic LFP cell battery :) Alas, I'm in Washington State. But if you ever get to sail, BC is such a lovely spot. I sailed through it last summer, 100% worth the grind and the burnout boat life resulted in. Ah well.

  • @rhondawalker6732
    @rhondawalker6732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow Adam....seems like you did that backwards. (she's winning by Far). reverse everything You got the $15.00 cash. Your're getting the $800.00 payment! wow, now life seems so much better. Unless ur true reason for keeping it was Spite, or Feeling an Emotional attachment because she helped build it. Either way, TIME has a way of healing us all. And in the future you'll wonder if you made the right decission.🤔 Yeah True, the bus is nice. But its gonna always be a money pit. much Love to you young Man

  • @markshirley7773
    @markshirley7773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keeping a few shingles in your vehicle will stop ✋ you from getting stuck in snow sand wet grass! Tires always grab shingles unless ur buried to the axel!!! I love y'all kiddo

  • @andypieprzyk5752
    @andypieprzyk5752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im 3yrs in, taking my time and im almost done. 12k all in. idk how u spent 80k

  • @carolynbelgum4623
    @carolynbelgum4623 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who was your lawyer? If you can’t pay the ex girlfriend then she gets the bus? If you can’t pay her the bus should be sold & the money divided minus the 15000 you all ready gave her.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn’t have a lawyer. I got cornered into signing some documents that allowed her to put a lean on the bus if i don’t make payment. I just wanted out of the situation and do right by her and pay her back.

    • @carolynbelgum4623
      @carolynbelgum4623 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamandAtlas I used to think like that. Being much older & wiser I would get a lawyer in a heart beat. That final agreement makes no sense

  • @angusgraham3028
    @angusgraham3028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goes to show money doesn’t buy happiness.

  • @Capitanvolume
    @Capitanvolume 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15k is cheap materials, old buses. You have a new bus. And you admited that you have expensive taste. Good lumber is expensive. Those guys are using cheap engineered lumber and painting it.
    I built a truck slide in camper for 4k. I bought an old truck for 1k. 1k for a camper and 2k in accessories and repairs on the cheap camper.

  • @angusgraham3028
    @angusgraham3028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Consumer proposal

  • @terravarious
    @terravarious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pull your stuff out, give the bus back, buy another one. Divest yourself of your ex as a priority.

    • @rhondawalker6732
      @rhondawalker6732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like how you think. Bus was $3.500? shittttt, that $15,000 wouldve been all she got!

  • @johnSR32
    @johnSR32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    biggest expense? Steph!!

  • @Protosaki
    @Protosaki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess the plans we make don't always work out, I earned my bachelor's degree and still failed at my field, I am ok for now but living paycheck to paycheck, I would sell it and pay some of the debt and/or invest and start another company since you know how to invest in that. Most people would just pull out after they were over budget, but, do you need that kind of space, if it keeps failing, seems like a lemon with band aides on it? Yeah, hope you find a way out bro. Good luck to you!

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The bus itself is really solid. Just a few bad design decisions mostly related to water that have given me trouble. You are right tho that it’s a lot of space. Might downsize in the future but i want to finish it before giving up and selling. Momma didn’t raise a quiter’ haha

    • @Protosaki
      @Protosaki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AdamandAtlas You can do it, I have faith in your resourefulness and insights.. Take care, one day at a time. :)

  • @cherylbrown7622
    @cherylbrown7622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well you went top of the line with everything, totally un-necessary. there is no need for this to be so expensive

  • @chrisgentry4427
    @chrisgentry4427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got like 35k in mine now. It is expensive.

  • @2AZSUN
    @2AZSUN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Adam, good to see a new post, even if it isn't with the best of news for you. Glad you're finally feeling better and doing better. Your mental health has clearly taken a toll on you over the last year or so, plus all the added expenses you hadn't planned on, it's rough. No doubt you and Steph set out to build the bus with all the best of the best, and you did a great job on it. Hindsight being what it is, you absolutely could've done things very differently and saved a lot of money in the process. With all that being water under the bridge though, now it's just time to take really good care of yourself and enjoy your new relationship and continue to put one foot in front of the other until you get yourself financially sound again. It might not be the picture you thought your life would be at this point, but as long as your breathing, there's opportunity for changes and creating something new. Hold on tight and hang in there.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the kind comment! I appreciate your continued support ☺️

    • @2AZSUN
      @2AZSUN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamandAtlas You’re welcome!! 🙏🏻

  • @MelissaMalzahn
    @MelissaMalzahn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Let Stephanie have the bus break all ties and start fresh. I'm confused why you are paying her $800, a month for what? We're you married?

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She doesn’t want the bus. The 800$ a month is a payment plan to pay her back all the money she sunk into the project. We were not married, no.

    • @MelissaMalzahn
      @MelissaMalzahn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AdamandAtlas I guess if she left the relationship plus left the bus her loss. She made the choice now expects to be reimbursed yet she doesn't want the bus. You both were building it together, then you went separate ways. Sounds like more greed or wanting you to fail. If you don't have a legal contract you aren't responsible for paying her what she put into it. She chose to leave.

    • @weirdmatter
      @weirdmatter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MelissaMalzahn Sounds like they had that agreement.

    • @NomadicHooker
      @NomadicHooker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MelissaMalzahn You probably need to go back and WATCH the video. Might even pay attention this time. He clearly stated he got a loan to pay her a $15,000 down payment and $800 a month to pay her back half of the $63,XXX they had invested in the bus. NO confusion there. He also mentioned " the attorney said ", so that tells me they had an agreement and some form of a legal contract whether it be verbal or written, an attorney was involved so that tells me legal steps were taken. No Confusion there either.

    • @Xorgye
      @Xorgye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah in situations like this (breakup, adhd, struggled), its the obvious things that 'say all that needs to be said'. But judging from the way he talks i think he isnt there yet to address them properly. I feel for him.
      (Im coming from a very similar situation right now, also adhd also breakup also 'chained by financial hardships' due to how i related to my ex, but people around me spotted it in time and i was able to listen). I wish him all the best. Its rough being where he is at currently.

  • @dylannelson100
    @dylannelson100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yea sounds like you guys just chose to buy the most expensive of everything without trying to find good deals..... prob overspent due to not looking for better deals by 20-30%

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of the price inflation was due to buying American products and getting hit with duties plus the weak canadian dollar. But there defiantly was some overpriced things like the water filters and backup camera!

  • @Protosaki
    @Protosaki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Be free Bro!

  • @ChadMusk
    @ChadMusk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No shit, Sudbury eh. How about Espanola.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually bought the bus in espanola!

  • @Lfs1891
    @Lfs1891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gut it, sell the stuff. Then let her take it. Start freash.

  • @chrisgentry4427
    @chrisgentry4427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm in the same boat on buying things and then not using them, or changing my mind and doing something else.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a whole drawer of things I bought for projects I never did or lost interest in immediately doing. It's a real problem haha

    • @thetslabus
      @thetslabus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AdamandAtlas Classic adhd symptom. I have the same drawers (plural ha ha)

    • @chrisgentry4427
      @chrisgentry4427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AdamandAtlas I think that is ADHD for you. I have it really bad too.

  • @davidsimpson2304
    @davidsimpson2304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lesson here
    That was not a girlfriend that was a scam Artist

  • @michaeldeckert6023
    @michaeldeckert6023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bothers me the most is you are bashing decisions you both were making together, and at the time I'm sure you were. Be a man and step up to your agreements. Stephanie definitely was your balance and now that you're out of balance it seems that you are smashing on her quite a bit. That was a beautiful build and forever reason it's gone sideways. Get yourself another job. If you have to work 2. In my first years of owning my homes.. now that I'm 70 I went through a recession(s) And a divorce. I worked three jobs to keep my house. You have to step up. It seems like you (and your new found) seem to be "working up why did Stephanie" when it was really why both of you? I will bet she's probably doing real well on her own.

    • @Bees-knees99
      @Bees-knees99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He is paying his debt, why the criticism? Stephanie contributed to the costs and now is holding him to a ridiculous deal they made. She lived in it clearly without any cost to her because he is paying everything back. I’d say she is coming out of this scott free and he is stepping up and paying his bills. Sounds like an honourable young man to me.

    • @Xorgye
      @Xorgye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The deal was not fair, its a catch 22. The bus was in its build state not worth the amount they put in it. She got a bargain with this man, he is taking it waaay to manly already.

    • @joeyromacus8674
      @joeyromacus8674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bees-knees99 she contributed. Yes. It's him saying SHE spent x amount on this. She spent.... Nah bro, WE spent.

    • @Bees-knees99
      @Bees-knees99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeyromacus8674 that is a depreciating asset.

    • @joeyromacus8674
      @joeyromacus8674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Bees-knees99 what's your point? That doesn't change the fact he's blaming her for the purchases they made together. Lots of SHE paid this. No, WE paid this. This is ignoring the fact that its an appreciating asset as it's being built. the bus itself wouldn't be shifting value downwards much by the time a builder gets hold of it. Building it to a high standard like they have adds value. If he continues, and depending on the market, he could make most of it back. Shit, could probably do that now (if everything is working).

  • @eloyanzaldua7433
    @eloyanzaldua7433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys need to learn how to work on ur own busses!!
    Looks like ya need a change in life.

    • @AdamandAtlas
      @AdamandAtlas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do all my own maintenance and repairs.

    • @eloyanzaldua7433
      @eloyanzaldua7433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I say this cus back in the 80s there was no diy videos etc. I'm 62 now n my power steering hose busted, I removed it with a crescent wrench, hitchhiked to a NAPA bought a new hose n hitchhiked back n installed it with couple extra cans of fluid.
      Didn't need a tow or a repair bill. They would have charged me $150 for the hose, $180 to install it, not to mention the $400 for the tow.
      Here is the kicker, I paid $52 for the hose as I watched the kid make it! Saving over $600!!! Just saying for all those that read this.

  • @eloyanzaldua7433
    @eloyanzaldua7433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is what happens when ya live beyond your means!