Iceland because all were disappointed after think about thing but it’s not possible to compare songs. I think would have enjoyed this more without think about things. I think he got votes because was recognized from 2020. I loved booth his songs, they can sing, it’s something new and it’s a good song
I agree with William re the zero points. It’s a competition. People can train their whole life for the Olympics and get a DNF because they start a split second too early or get a zero because they don’t complete a routine. These are adults and I think it actually sets a good example for kids at home to see the likes of James Newman getting zero points and handling it with such class. It’s not the end of the world if something like that happens. His song has gone on to get radio play. That’s a more powerful lesson to me than giving everyone participation trophies which is ultimately the exact same thing as zero points anyways but just moving the bar higher
Plus if you apply to go to Eurovision you should expect what the possibilities are for what could happen to you, this means you have the possibility of getting 0 points. If you can’t handle the heat then get out of the kitchen. James Newman was amazing with how he handled the 0 points, as well as the other 3 countries
Hmmm if i knew people would vote for Spain i'd give it almost all my votes but i was sure they wouldnt so thats maybe the reason why it got 0 points everybody was soo into certain entries and i just knew it would happen like that... like Italy sorry too overrated in my opinion like i have to admit while watching their performance i was on my mobile phone because it didnt have any big impact on me long before the contest lol their other song Torna a casa is better... that i dont know now if i will ever vote in the next years cause it seems like im always in minority... well introverted people are in minority😔.
I think this year, especially with the televote, authenticity and uniqueness were very important factors. If you look at the televote results, the Top 9 songs were all (co-)written by the artists themselves. I think that speaks to a need from the public for something different! And I hope to see more of it in the coming years :)
I was also thinking that it may be the end of the reign of Swedish songwriters. Some of the songs that had worse results than expected were composed by big Swedish songwriters (Malta, San Marino, ....). This year people prefered less formatted performances.
I agree... I think that overall, people are getting a bit tired of the overly calculated songs that come under this category. Malta was amazing, but I felt that there was just something missing when it came to Destiny’s performance, probably because she herself didn’t write the song. I find nowadays that the songs the public responds most to are those which are written by the artists themselves, or the artist has at least some hand in the song’s creation. This of course is just what I think, but it surely can’t be a coincidence that Sweden’s televote support has been dwindling with each year that passed...
Salvador had an interesting conversation with Vaidotas from The Roop, and he essentially said that the key to winning Eurovision is authenticity. If you successfully communicate that real, earnest sense of authenticity, that's the crucial ingredient. I think that's what Malta was lacking; it didn't seem immediate to Destiny. Instead it felt like the song was just a song covered (excellently) by her. Whereas if you look at the top 5, all of those songs are super uniquely tailored to their performers.
@@leef2842 Very well said. To put it bluntly, Destiny literally bought both the songs she presented to Eurovision for 2020 and 21. That’s nothing against her, but it came across quite clearly when she performed; she was missing the flair and immediacy that the acts in the top 5 had, because it’s very difficult to fully connect to a song in an authentic way when you weren’t directly involved in writing it...
@@liamsmyth2917 her song was generic, with generic lyrics (theme overly used these days), too polished staging. Everything looked so sterile. This is a song not voice contestant. Plus, she looked like lizzo. Zero authenticity
All those countries who didn’t do well with the televote also hired the Swedish stage directors , even Gjons tears who was a favorite before the rehearsals. Italy, Finland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Iceland developed their staging in their own countries working hard on it everyday.
@wiwibloggs I wish y’all had talked about how viral this Eurovision has gone as compared to recent years. Go-A topped the Spotify Global 50 viral charts for almost a total week. Maneskin have had multiple songs go viral worldwide. Heck, even “Fairytale” has been going viral because of TikTok apparently!
Måneskin have actually charted the highest in the UK charts. On Eurovision weekend, they went in to the UK top 40 at #17. In stark contrast, Dadi of Iceland just missed the top 40 landing in at #43, and James Newman of the UK took bronze position at #47. No other Eurovision song charted in the top 100. Måneskin also had a second song chart the same week in the top 100. "I wanna be your slave" which entered in at #83. A week later, James Newman has crashed out of the top 100 and Dadi slips down to #81. Meanwhile Måneskin remain in the top thirty, falling a few places to #25 whilst "I wanna be your slave" climbs all the way up from last week's #83 to this week's #24 ! Their success speaks for itsself.
The comment about the public didn’t want an American to win, it sounds similar to a previous comment back in 2016, saying that they didn’t want Australia to win
I think there would have been less problems with an unknown American but bringing in a known star like Flo Rida looked (for me) like they thought he has still so many fans in Europe and they all would vote for him. It looked(for me) like they wanted to buy the victory. Celine Dion was nearly a nobody when she won ESC
I will give a few reasons why Malta flopped with the televote: 1. The staging was mediocre. 2. Outfits were fine(the silver one) to horrible (all pink). 3. All female pop bangers cancel each other (Malta, Cyprus, San Marino, Israel, Azerbaijan and even Greece). These songs were too familiar. 4. Neta already won with that song and message.
Also, being early in the running order + televoters in the final are less friendly to microstates than semi- finals because more general audiences are voting. Whereas, hardcore fans make up a lot of voters in semi finals and they are more willing to vote for small countries
For the whole video I was waiting for them to mention Bulgaria, and was very happy when William said it at the end :) It was such an amazing and magical performance
I think American performing in a Eurovision track is not that much of a problem for people as long as it's a song that connects with people. It's the same issue with famous singers representing a country. People don't care about who they are and where they from, as long as the song is good enough for them
Ok I have to say to Oliver about San Marino: No coming 26th in the running order doesn’t mean bad televotes. Italy 2018 clearly proved that statistic wrong. Also San Marino not having a lot of allies also does not mean anything. Israel wouldn’t have won 2018 either if that’s the case. You can make up any excuse for why Senhit did so bad but the fact is that people didn’t connect with it. And the reason for it is probably because it was so over staged, the weird costumes and maybe the fact that she tried a little too hard. People disconnect from that in general. It’s not 2010 anymore where Katy Gaga and Kesha ruled the world with their weird costumes etc.
Also, let's be honest, Senhit did not do a good job. Her voice was weak, her dance moves weren't particularly good, and she just didn't have the energy to make a song like that work. At the same time, all this hype around Flo Rida didn't make sense, he's a B-Lister who hasn't had a hit in 5 years and hasn't been "huge" in 9. With Senhit underperforming, the song was bound to as well.
Agree. The weakest link in San Marinos entry was Senhit herself, strange outfits, poor dancing, lousy vocals. When you compare with other entries during the three minutes of the song, you take all those factors into account. Most people don’t know how someone is deserving of points and how someone really tried hard...all 39 contestants put a lot of effort
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kind of agree kind of disagree,, i really liked the song but the performance really lacked for me too just like jonathan has said :))
I don't appreciate the Gjon's Tears erasure in this video. All this talk of "top 2" like HELLO Gjon was there as well in the top 3 and he WON THE JURY??? WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?
Moldova being higher than everyone bellow them is a crime. They bought their jury votes. Ebu needs to do something about that. Juries were introduced to stop block voting and they are the ones who do it, people just vote for the song they like. Ugh
The problem with Malta and San Marino was that they were trying too hard and as a result their performances felt cold and pre fabricated in a year with so many performances feeling extremely personal and true to the artists. It’s clear that this “made for Eurovision” songs that used to sweep I the 2000s are now recognize for what they are, disposable music.
It makes sense that Victoria is the mother of the group since she was the one who made the band in the first place. So she obviously has a big role in why the band is so big and why they are so close together.
Swiss winning the jury vote needs to be talked more. it was a really great result for swiss. plus, they are also one of the fan favourite, but i guess he’s not top two, so you guys don’t talk about him as much? lol
San Marino was just too weird in the staging and for the supposed hype around Flo Rida I would suggest that 90% of the voting audience across Europe had no idea who he was.
William brought up an interesting point about artists writing their own song. At the end, people today champion authentic ARTISTS, and the diverse top results are representing that. The number of fabricated pop performers in this year's contest created a downfall for these pop acts as well, they don't stand out, looks generic AF, and at the end people don't vote for them. (You guys are mentioning about the silver dresses. YES. they even all dress the same. Not a good look!)
I think we underestimate both the demographic and the tastes of eurovision audiences and expect that Pop wins or pop or middle of the road gets a pass. it should be no surprise really that rock gets a win when rock is a huge diverse genre with an amazing history, beyond that of pop and a massive fan base. i think its telling that pop basically bombed with the televote.
Jeangu Macrooy brought in Surinam into Eurovision. Tis was a very Surinam act including the music, the rythme and those on stage. This should be applauded. Like when Stella Mwangy sang some Swahili in Eurovision
The problem with je me casse I think is that it didn’t feel organic with Destiny. The last part suited her especially the bridge and she showed her voice but in other parts it felt like she was trying too hard to act sassy when it wasn’t really her personality. All of my love was a better suited song for her.
Why didn’t you mention the Jury Winner Switzerland? You even put him in the Thumbnail. They are slaying ESC since 2019 but you never really talk much about Switzerland in your channel, is there a reason for that?
radiofriendly is so overrated. to hear radiofriendly music, put on the radio. to hear something different - let's wait for a show like this. one does need some input of something extra.
The idea that San Marino (and Malta for that matter) are tanked in the televote because they are small is nonsense. Malta came 2nd in 2005 (100% televote) and 9th in the televote in 2013. Iceland got support from all over Europe and they are an isolated island with a population below 300k. The interval act idea is also nonsense- San Marino came 9th in semi 2- people just didn’t rate it
It's pretty obvious what's going on with all that talk of "Top 2" like c'mon guys. No one EVER talks about top 2. Just say you didn't like Gjon's Tears and wanted to skip talking about Switzerland and save us the trouble.
I totally agree with Jonathan about the Netherlands: they were actually the only 0-point entree that I didn't expect to see in the bottom at all, but I can't really say I didn't see it coming, and even before the first semifinal took place I was asking for someone to explain me what was so wrong and unpleasant with that song for it being so low in almost every top 39 available on TH-cam.
@@An89Go Hmm... I can't agree with that. Every single local culture inside of Europe itself is virtually 'foreign' for the rest of it, which didn't keep Ukraine from being the second must voted... by the public.
@@janeyre82 Ukriane is a good example because no matter how foreign it might sound to most people outside Ukriane , it still instantly sounds like a song that you can easily place in Europe. That was not the case with the Netherlands this year and that might be one of the reasons why the song was so low. I really enjoy the Netherlands this year, but there was very little there to connect the song with the voters.
@@An89Go Well yeah, you might be right... Though with Surinam we're not talking about a properly non-European context in historical terms... including the language of the chorus. European music is full of experimentalisms looking outside of the continent for inspiration... Would be really disappointing if this were 'per se' a reason for getting no points.
Re: Malta not having neighbours that vote for them - doesn't help if your jury shoves their closest neighbour under the bus in the ruthless determination to win.
just wanna point out that despite getting 0 points, Germany's average placement among the televotes was decently high at 17th, compared to Spain, UK and the Netherlands who all had average placements around 23rd (Jendrik was actually quite close to scoring points in some countries)
Ok so first Ukraine and Finland was in my top 10. But alot of people are mad at the jury but Ukrain they were still in 9/26 and Finland 11/26. So top 11 for a song this much extrem is pretty good. Not really jury friendly song. So not so bad no? Really a question i'm curious by your respons. Thank you. From France. I'm gonna read all your respons.
Sr. Ten Even with just the televote both would have still been in the top 10. France in 3rd and Switzerland in 6th(?) so they weren't just appreciated by the juries.
speaking on how destiny may not have come across too strong with her performance as she didn’t write it, but victoria from bulgaria wrote hers and for whatever reason that didn’t come across to televoters either.
@@UtamagUta compared to Flo Rida she wasn't famous before taking part in (and winning) Eurovision though, I dare say her breakthrough came a few years after winning Eurovision, when she sang "Beauty and the beast"
You should revioew two zeros collaborating in an English version of the Spanish song. The adorable Blas Canto and James Newman in a duo of "I'll Stay". My heart just pounded for the two. I know Blas is a great fan of Barabra. Hopefully they will have a new single together.
I was surprised that the juries preferred Switzerland over France honestly. She got more votes from the public than the jury which was totally unexpected imo and it was what ultimately ruined Barbara's chances at victory. She was never gonna win the televote but if someone told me before the contest that she had managed to come 3rd in it, I'd be sure she was the overall winner. I'm glad everything worked out for Måneskin in the end though. I loved France, it was my second place but Italy was such a breath of fresh air. Their performance felt like an actual concert, they're very charismatic and have a captivating stage presence despite their young age. Plus it seems like they can achieve broad commercial success. As far as the rest of the results go, Malta and San Marino failed to appeal to the general audience even though they were hyped for months inside the esc bubble. I liked Je me casse, I found the televote result too harsh but the juries overrated it. Performing so early on especially after Manizha who had a similar, yet presented in a far more authentic way, message and the oversaturation of female pop songs didn't do it any favors. Adrenalina was the classic fan favorite flop. Bulgaria deserved better but I wasn't surprised. It was squeezed between Finland ,Lithuania and Ukraine in the running order and unlike them the song lacks immediacy. The commentators in Greece didn't even mention the story about her father so it's not like the photo would touch many people either without the context. I also hope that in the top 10 crimes video of William and Deban there is some serious discussion about Moldova because William was too diplomatic on the semi final video. Something shady has definitely taken place here.
Moldova's song got radio play in a few countries and it was already popular before the final. It got the votes it deserved. The ''serious discussion'' needs to happen at the BBC regarding the non-existent promotion, honest work and support for the acts they send.
@@trildi Moldova got 8 12 points in the semi. That's a crazy number. To put it in context, the only songs that have got this amount of 12 points in their semi were Portugal and Bulgaria in 2017 ,both of which ended up getting huge scores in the final as well. Iceland and Finland only got 3 and 2 sets of 12 points each and they were the most popular acts in the semi (and they were also very successful in the final). Most of these countries that gave Moldova 12 points in the semi didn't give Sugar a single point in the final. I understand that wiwibloggs may not feel comfortable discussing the matter in depth since they don't have actual proof that sth shady happened, but imo it's pretty obvious.
@@DaOneFame Serbia got most of its views from its neighbours (Slovenia, Croatia, North Macedonia + Serbia itself) and countries with large populations of Serbian diaspora ( Austria + Switzerland). It was trending at number 1 in those countries pre- contest. Not a surprise that it was those 5 countries that gave Serbia 5 x 12 points in the televote (60 of the 82 televote points Serbia received in the final).
@@trildi don’t you feel weird the fact that Moldova got 8 sets of 12 pts, yet failed to win the televotes in SF2. not to mention 4 out of 8 countries who gave them 12 pts in SF, places them very low in televoting in final and gets no points from the 4 countries. if you want to compare this with destiny, which also flops in televotes, don’t you think at least they would’ve been awarded some points like Destiny did? personally i like the song, but the fact that it has 8 sets of 12 pts beating the sf2 televote winner finland, is a little weird.
I’ve always agreed that maybe juries make it more fair, but if you dig into it, not really. Greece/Cyprus 12 points always, Russia/Moldova 10-12 points, Bulgaria/Moldova 12 points, Russia/Ukraine NEVER giving points to each other, Malta and France NOT giving Italy (their main competitor) any points. And public still gave a lot of points to Switzerland and France, so you can’t really say that people can’t appreciate a “jury” song. I still want jury, but they have to think how to make it more fair
Russia, Bulgaria, Moldova is not a thing, it’s Kirkorov thing, if he wasn’t involved they wouldn’t give the maximum points to each other. Greece gave also 10 points to Moldova this year and to Russia in previous years , also Kirkorov effect.
He was in Albania for Kenga Majike which had its final on the 29th of May and this video was filmed on the 30th. So he had likely only just gotten back to the UK or was still in Albania when this was filmed.
I think the results on the night seemed pretty fair and about right overall. I would have loved to see Cyprus do abit better as well William. My biggest disappointment is how the UK is blaming anything but themselves for the poor showing. If we don’t change our attitude and dare to be bolder then we will never climb the leaderboard
Good points . Portugal getting so much jury love and a very respectable score overall. Well deserved! . France, Switzerland, Russia and Ukraine getting well deserved scores . Finland finally doing what they do best! Crimes . San Marino and Malta's televote score. What should they do going forward. Will this turn off Andorra/Monaco from coming back? . Netherlands getting 0 in the televote was not deserved . Cyprus getting less points than Moldova
Why would Cyprus getting less points than Moldova be a crime? I mean i agree they should be close to each other in a spot cause both song are repetitive and don't have some meaningful lyrics but in rest i wouldn't even put it higher than Moldova
I’m sorry, but San Marino ended where it should’ve. The music video was great, but the live performance was a little messy and Senhit sounded out of breath.
I'm sorry but in no way was Moldova which finished 13th better than San Marino and objectively the song and performance as a whole was way better than Say Na Na that achieved a better result.
Regarding juries, can you actually see how each jury member voted? On the website there is a breakdown by juror listed as 'a' 'b' etc and a separate list in a "random order" of who is on the jury but I don't see where it says that x person voted in x way?
It does, but I think we deserved last this year if you look at that night alone(disregarding how good the song was). The staging just didn’t work and she was out of tune. Objectively, It would have been unfair if anyone came after her
@@raindropsonroses3919 to be honest I was a huge supporter of Irelands song. I really enjoyed it, BUT, she was out of breath, out of tune (at times) and too focused on the interaction with the staging which really came at a cost of the overall performance. I was so shocked and surprised at how it just didn't deliver and I feel that (as sad as it made me) she earned that position due to her shaky performance. I think if both the UK and ireland had seasoned performers singing both those songs, it may have been a different story.
I like both France and Italy (my fav was Switzerland btw), but I have to disagree to all these people who saw modernity in Maneskin, they are pretty similar to 70's rock icons in behaviour, style and music. Btw, congrats to Italy 💕
@@trildi the best performance and the most modern stage in my opinion was Switzerland. France was classic but beautiful. Italy was beautiful, too, even if i am not a fan of rock, they are so talented✨
Gijon Tears reminded me a bit of Loreen´s Euphoria , I mean his moves+it reminded me a bit of Arcade(but his song from last year did sound much more like Arcade ) Malta sounded for me like she wanted to cover Netta´s winning song. The french song reminded me a bit of Edith Piaf . Most times I don´t like (ESC ) copies. I love Italy, I never heard a rock song in italian language before +I never heard a combination of a rock song with rap.+i love Go_A I never heard folk song with techno beats before. Italy+Ukraine were my favorites this year but I wished the win for Italy more because they waited so long for a win.
Wow Greece was not even mentioned neither in semi final 2 nor in final results video. Stefania got into top 10 and its like this seat is empty . I dont understand it as Greece became a big dark horse because everyone thought that she is gonna last 18-20th . Also greece was (maybe) the most balanced country in both jury and televote .
Being in the middle kinda sucks cause people tend to forget about those places. I think it applies to other similar entries as well (Bulgaria, Norway...).
@@DaOneFame "Never done before" doesn't automatically equate to "amazing" or "great". It was quite a boring and a bit sloppy staging, especially compared to all the hype made around it before it happened live. I LOVED the song and Stefania, but I think that slight overall disappointment in staging killed Greece's chances for even higher placement.
For Flo Roda. perhaps Euroivisionaries were voting to exclude any interest by US in Eurovision. And Americans were so cynical the same way against Eurovision.
Zero points does not mean that these countries got 0 votes overall. It means that they just did not get into the top 10 of combined votes of any country. If you phrase it that way it is basically saying that they all got any position between 11-14 in any country which is not that easy. So they did get votes but just not enough to get on the board.
@@enriqueali You really don't need native English speakers to be able to have a conversation in English. See most TH-cam channels. So what's yóur point?
Maybe because the song does not really sing about anything. It is just a collection of words, but without saying anything about why is it called "Mata Hari"
@@suleymanova3377 Mata Hari, Sugar, Adrenalina, Je me casse, Voila... All of these songs are just repeating the same lyrics at the refrain and it's not that meaningful and all of them got different places 🤷
I just think that Adrenalina wasn't good enough. I was never really hyped about the song. FloRida ok, but he didn't make the song that much better. For me, the song wasn't just good enough. I never understood the hype. So I think the song deserved the spot it got.
In terms of the split results, the jury vote pretty much went to the form book in my eyes: Switzerland, France and Malta rewarded the most! In terms of the televote, glad to see the acts bringing something different to the table being rewarded like Italy, Ukraine and Finland. But also really poor results for the likes of Malta, San Marino and the UK felt really disappointing and harsh! Overall I think one of the stories is that poor vocals were not tolerated this year - by juries or televoters. 3 of my favourite songs of the year were Latvia, Ireland and the UK.. but 3 of the worst vocal performances were from those three countries, and they each came last in their Semis/the Grand Final. It's a shame because all had great songs and I love Samanta, Lesley and James.. but the standard was so strong this year!
@@DaOneFame copying of Mahmood's dancing??😂 this has to be one of the funniest thoughts I've read about Gjon's performance 😂 I think the dancing parts were very well done and he proved that it wasn't just a performance of a typical ballad song, it was something different! that's why it appealed to both the jury and the public.
@@DaOneFame 165 points is still a lot (6th-7th place together with The Roop). also, you don't need to be the winner of eurovision to be liked by people. lots of artists in lower places did well in their careers, I'm sure Gjon will too. peace ✌️
I really think that what Manneskin has achieved is just like any other year. We have to remember Lordi in 2006 and Dana in 1998 and Conchita in 2014. This is Eurovision. Progressive and conservative hand in hand in full harmony.
Big five/six makes zero difference. Italy and France were great and got points they deserved. Netherlands/UK/Gremany Spain. Were not up to final standards and were basically shoved out the final.
@@TheJttv was just thinking only have acts that qualified and not have a situation where someone gets zero. Basically the qualifiers have kinda proved themselves popular
I hope for next year there will be the return of the orchestra and to overcome the tight deadlines for the changes it is enough to make two identical stages while a singer sings in the other stage they prepare everything for the next one so you have time to make all the connections
I don't know if this is just me, but literally most of the songs that I love the past 2 Eurovisions (that were not cancelled) did poorly 2019: I thought Keiino from Norway was the best, I also thought Bilal is the best entry from France up until 2021, but besides that my top 10 included Portugal, Ireland, Armenia, Finland, Georgia, Romania, Belarus and Spain. With Belarus being the only one qualifying placing 24th an Spain being an auto qualifier placing 22nd, everyone else were non-qualifiers 2021: Latvia, Romania, Czech Republic, Croatia and Ireland are non-qualifiers, with Ireland being my FAVORITE entry, are non qualifiers. Then there's also San Marino, Senhit queen being 2nd for me, placing only higher than the countries with 0 televote points. However luckily this year I did better with France, Switzerland, Ukraine and Finland being in the top 10 that's in Europe's top 10
4chansons du Top 5 sont chantées dans la langue maternelle des artistes: il est peut-être là, l'avenir de ce concours, non? Le "tout anglais" et le "tout pop" sont peut-être ringards?
The fact that everyone is so against Moldova surprises me really. It's a good song, come on. The vocals were decent and the beat immediately captivates you. The visuals were not the best comparing to the music video but also weren't as boring as many other songs in the final... That's totally understandable for me that it finished in the middle.
It was not bad at all, it's just most people strongly prefered that similar type of entries like Serbia, Cyprus, Azerbaijan and San Marino, way more than they liked Moldova, so they think those should have been placed higher than Moldova.
100% the UK deserved to be at the bottom. (Maybe not nil points but definitely deserved 26th.) Trumpets and a white guy with cornrows. Bell ends and racism; you can't say it wasn't a perfect representation of the UK right now.
Who are these people that talking here , we waisted our time to listen to their very shallow thoughts . Their are kids that likes the rock songs , and this girl it’s very annoying when she talks and talks about colors and nothing
I've said it before: the standard at the top this year was so high, any of the top five would have been a deserving winner.
Hmmm I agree with 4/5 of them! I really just can’t see Iceland as a winner although it was a cute performance
replace iceland with finland and i agree
Iceland because all were disappointed after think about thing but it’s not possible to compare songs. I think would have enjoyed this more without think about things. I think he got votes because was recognized from 2020. I loved booth his songs, they can sing, it’s something new and it’s a good song
I really hope televoting x jury differences get a separate video because the biggest ones weren't adressed
I agree with William re the zero points. It’s a competition. People can train their whole life for the Olympics and get a DNF because they start a split second too early or get a zero because they don’t complete a routine. These are adults and I think it actually sets a good example for kids at home to see the likes of James Newman getting zero points and handling it with such class. It’s not the end of the world if something like that happens. His song has gone on to get radio play. That’s a more powerful lesson to me than giving everyone participation trophies which is ultimately the exact same thing as zero points anyways but just moving the bar higher
Plus if you apply to go to Eurovision you should expect what the possibilities are for what could happen to you, this means you have the possibility of getting 0 points. If you can’t handle the heat then get out of the kitchen.
James Newman was amazing with how he handled the 0 points, as well as the other 3 countries
Not to mention that doesn't even mean he did bad, you could be 11th in every country and that's still a zero
Hmmm if i knew people would vote for Spain i'd give it almost all my votes but i was sure they wouldnt so thats maybe the reason why it got 0 points everybody was soo into certain entries and i just knew it would happen like that... like Italy sorry too overrated in my opinion like i have to admit while watching their performance i was on my mobile phone because it didnt have any big impact on me long before the contest lol their other song Torna a casa is better... that i dont know now if i will ever vote in the next years cause it seems like im always in minority... well introverted people are in minority😔.
I think this year, especially with the televote, authenticity and uniqueness were very important factors. If you look at the televote results, the Top 9 songs were all (co-)written by the artists themselves. I think that speaks to a need from the public for something different! And I hope to see more of it in the coming years :)
You forgot to mention Switzerland! The jury winner and my personal favourite that night. Such an amazing performance.
I was also thinking that it may be the end of the reign of Swedish songwriters. Some of the songs that had worse results than expected were composed by big Swedish songwriters (Malta, San Marino, ....). This year people prefered less formatted performances.
I agree... I think that overall, people are getting a bit tired of the overly calculated songs that come under this category. Malta was amazing, but I felt that there was just something missing when it came to Destiny’s performance, probably because she herself didn’t write the song. I find nowadays that the songs the public responds most to are those which are written by the artists themselves, or the artist has at least some hand in the song’s creation. This of course is just what I think, but it surely can’t be a coincidence that Sweden’s televote support has been dwindling with each year that passed...
Salvador had an interesting conversation with Vaidotas from The Roop, and he essentially said that the key to winning Eurovision is authenticity. If you successfully communicate that real, earnest sense of authenticity, that's the crucial ingredient. I think that's what Malta was lacking; it didn't seem immediate to Destiny. Instead it felt like the song was just a song covered (excellently) by her. Whereas if you look at the top 5, all of those songs are super uniquely tailored to their performers.
@@leef2842 Very well said. To put it bluntly, Destiny literally bought both the songs she presented to Eurovision for 2020 and 21. That’s nothing against her, but it came across quite clearly when she performed; she was missing the flair and immediacy that the acts in the top 5 had, because it’s very difficult to fully connect to a song in an authentic way when you weren’t directly involved in writing it...
@@liamsmyth2917 her song was generic, with generic lyrics (theme overly used these days), too polished staging. Everything looked so sterile. This is a song not voice contestant. Plus, she looked like lizzo. Zero authenticity
All those countries who didn’t do well with the televote also hired the Swedish stage directors , even Gjons tears who was a favorite before the rehearsals.
Italy, Finland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Iceland developed their staging in their own countries working hard on it everyday.
@wiwibloggs I wish y’all had talked about how viral this Eurovision has gone as compared to recent years. Go-A topped the Spotify Global 50 viral charts for almost a total week. Maneskin have had multiple songs go viral worldwide. Heck, even “Fairytale” has been going viral because of TikTok apparently!
A slowed version of fairytale has gone mad on tik tok
Måneskin have actually charted the highest in the UK charts. On Eurovision weekend, they went in to the UK top 40 at #17. In stark contrast, Dadi of Iceland just missed the top 40 landing in at #43, and James Newman of the UK took bronze position at #47. No other Eurovision song charted in the top 100.
Måneskin also had a second song chart the same week in the top 100. "I wanna be your slave" which entered in at #83.
A week later, James Newman has crashed out of the top 100 and Dadi slips down to #81.
Meanwhile Måneskin remain in the top thirty, falling a few places to #25 whilst "I wanna be your slave" climbs all the way up from last week's #83 to this week's #24 !
Their success speaks for itsself.
@@AmaanStorm exactly, and the viral charts have been even more esc filled
I think this year`s results were amazing! I live in Switzerland and we were so proud of Gjon :)
You should be.
Jonathan’s analysis is always spot-on
He wasn't spot on with Lithuania. Their song is very radio friendly and will be played everywhere in Europe.
@@abrielrobertsson4160 It definitely won't be.
@@sav0001 Yeah beacause it already is 😃.
The comment about the public didn’t want an American to win, it sounds similar to a previous comment back in 2016, saying that they didn’t want Australia to win
Who is the american?
@@foffodude949 Flo Rida
I think there would have been less problems with an unknown American but bringing in a known star like Flo Rida looked (for me) like they thought he has still so many fans in Europe and they all would vote for him. It looked(for me) like they wanted to buy the victory. Celine Dion was nearly a nobody when she won ESC
I do feel so bad for San Marino honestly... I wish it was Senhit just 3 minutes straight... I voted for this & do think she did a great job.
I will give a few reasons why Malta flopped with the televote:
1. The staging was mediocre.
2. Outfits were fine(the silver one) to horrible (all pink).
3. All female pop bangers cancel each other (Malta, Cyprus, San Marino, Israel, Azerbaijan and even Greece). These songs were too familiar.
4. Neta already won with that song and message.
It’s a neta knock off, that is why they did so bad
Agree with your number 3...
Also, being early in the running order + televoters in the final are less friendly to microstates than semi- finals because more general audiences are voting. Whereas, hardcore fans make up a lot of voters in semi finals and they are more willing to vote for small countries
For the whole video I was waiting for them to mention Bulgaria, and was very happy when William said it at the end :)
It was such an amazing and magical performance
I think American performing in a Eurovision track is not that much of a problem for people as long as it's a song that connects with people. It's the same issue with famous singers representing a country. People don't care about who they are and where they from, as long as the song is good enough for them
Ok I have to say to Oliver about San Marino: No coming 26th in the running order doesn’t mean bad televotes. Italy 2018 clearly proved that statistic wrong. Also San Marino not having a lot of allies also does not mean anything. Israel wouldn’t have won 2018 either if that’s the case. You can make up any excuse for why Senhit did so bad but the fact is that people didn’t connect with it. And the reason for it is probably because it was so over staged, the weird costumes and maybe the fact that she tried a little too hard. People disconnect from that in general. It’s not 2010 anymore where Katy Gaga and Kesha ruled the world with their weird costumes etc.
Also, let's be honest, Senhit did not do a good job. Her voice was weak, her dance moves weren't particularly good, and she just didn't have the energy to make a song like that work. At the same time, all this hype around Flo Rida didn't make sense, he's a B-Lister who hasn't had a hit in 5 years and hasn't been "huge" in 9. With Senhit underperforming, the song was bound to as well.
Agree. The weakest link in San Marinos entry was Senhit herself, strange outfits, poor dancing, lousy vocals. When you compare with other entries during the three minutes of the song, you take all those factors into account. Most people don’t know how someone is deserving of points and how someone really tried hard...all 39 contestants put a lot of effort
kind of agree kind of disagree,, i really liked the song but the performance really lacked for me too just like jonathan has said :))
the reason about San-Marino that the song is nothing special. Traditional eurovision bops like Cyprus didn't get many points.
It may also be the case of voters being complacent.
I don't appreciate the Gjon's Tears erasure in this video. All this talk of "top 2" like HELLO Gjon was there as well in the top 3 and he WON THE JURY??? WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?
I feel like wiwibloggs doesn’t really like Switzerland nor Gjon’s Tears in particular sadly.
I'm also disappointed that they didn't mention Gjon at all. Really not okay.
I am asking the same question?
The fact that Moldova get higher than Serbia is such a crime
@Alex Pang boo hoo :)
Moldova being higher than everyone bellow them is a crime. They bought their jury votes. Ebu needs to do something about that. Juries were introduced to stop block voting and they are the ones who do it, people just vote for the song they like. Ugh
@@ksica Proof please.
@@trildiAll of the Bulgarian jury members giving Moldova 12 points in the final just because Filip Kirkorov is Bulgarian is BS.
@@trildi hint: filip kirkotov, nuff said
127K subscribers on june 7
The numbers are really going up up.
Keep up with the good work!!!
The problem with Malta and San Marino was that they were trying too hard and as a result their performances felt cold and pre fabricated in a year with so many performances feeling extremely personal and true to the artists. It’s clear that this “made for Eurovision” songs that used to sweep I the 2000s are now recognize for what they are, disposable music.
That is EXACTLY the truth. 100% feel the same way
Yeah like måneskin just went out and poured out talent and passion
Biggest crime: The favourites cancelling each other out in the jury
It makes sense that Victoria is the mother of the group since she was the one who made the band in the first place. So she obviously has a big role in why the band is so big and why they are so close together.
She's the most mature one of them and has always something smart to say.
When is the greatest crimes video coming out as I have so many crimes to dish out.
Swiss winning the jury vote needs to be talked more. it was a really great result for swiss. plus, they are also one of the fan favourite, but i guess he’s not top two, so you guys don’t talk about him as much? lol
San Marino was just too weird in the staging and for the supposed hype around Flo Rida I would suggest that 90% of the voting audience across Europe had no idea who he was.
William brought up an interesting point about artists writing their own song. At the end, people today champion authentic ARTISTS, and the diverse top results are representing that. The number of fabricated pop performers in this year's contest created a downfall for these pop acts as well, they don't stand out, looks generic AF, and at the end people don't vote for them. (You guys are mentioning about the silver dresses. YES. they even all dress the same. Not a good look!)
Suzanne...'I don't know what to say that i haven't all ready said'....Proceeds to talk without breathing for 4 minutes...
I think we underestimate both the demographic and the tastes of eurovision audiences and expect that Pop wins or pop or middle of the road gets a pass. it should be no surprise really that rock gets a win when rock is a huge diverse genre with an amazing history, beyond that of pop and a massive fan base. i think its telling that pop basically bombed with the televote.
Jeangu Macrooy brought in Surinam into Eurovision. Tis was a very Surinam act including the music, the rythme and those on stage. This should be applauded. Like when Stella Mwangy sang some Swahili in Eurovision
The problem with je me casse I think is that it didn’t feel organic with Destiny. The last part suited her especially the bridge and she showed her voice but in other parts it felt like she was trying too hard to act sassy when it wasn’t really her personality. All of my love was a better suited song for her.
Why didn’t you mention the Jury Winner Switzerland? You even put him in the Thumbnail. They are slaying ESC since 2019 but you never really talk much about Switzerland in your channel, is there a reason for that?
radiofriendly is so overrated. to hear radiofriendly music, put on the radio. to hear something different - let's wait for a show like this. one does need some input of something extra.
The idea that San Marino (and Malta for that matter) are tanked in the televote because they are small is nonsense. Malta came 2nd in 2005 (100% televote) and 9th in the televote in 2013. Iceland got support from all over Europe and they are an isolated island with a population below 300k. The interval act idea is also nonsense- San Marino came 9th in semi 2- people just didn’t rate it
James Newman is a class act and the darling of the show.
It's pretty obvious what's going on with all that talk of "Top 2" like c'mon guys. No one EVER talks about top 2. Just say you didn't like Gjon's Tears and wanted to skip talking about Switzerland and save us the trouble.
Willam, you're getting really good at pronouncing Måneskin correctly. 😃 👍
I totally agree with Jonathan about the Netherlands: they were actually the only 0-point entree that I didn't expect to see in the bottom at all, but I can't really say I didn't see it coming, and even before the first semifinal took place I was asking for someone to explain me what was so wrong and unpleasant with that song for it being so low in almost every top 39 available on TH-cam.
That song was too foreign for an average European voter.
@@An89Go Hmm... I can't agree with that. Every single local culture inside of Europe itself is virtually 'foreign' for the rest of it, which didn't keep Ukraine from being the second must voted... by the public.
@@janeyre82 Ukriane is a good example because no matter how foreign it might sound to most people outside Ukriane , it still instantly sounds like a song that you can easily place in Europe. That was not the case with the Netherlands this year and that might be one of the reasons why the song was so low. I really enjoy the Netherlands this year, but there was very little there to connect the song with the voters.
@@An89Go Well yeah, you might be right... Though with Surinam we're not talking about a properly non-European context in historical terms... including the language of the chorus. European music is full of experimentalisms looking outside of the continent for inspiration... Would be really disappointing if this were 'per se' a reason for getting no points.
Austria got zero when they organized the show after they won. Exactly like Netherlands this year.
@@DaOneFame Portugal 2018 ended last as well, didn't they?
@@trildi yes
@@trildi I loved that Portuguese entry.
@@trildi I loved that Portuguese entry.
if Italy gets last place next year (or a 0), then, s it safe to say that it is somehow the default that the hosting country places in the bottom?
No Padraig :(
I love your channel a lot, but why didn't you talk about Switzerland winning the jury vote…..
u could say they were a...Blind Channel ☺️
I don't know why, but they don't seem to like Gjon. By the way, Switzerland was my winner.
@@lovisalauren6010 me too
@Mariette Τ. I completely agree, but it's still quite annoying that they've forgotten to talk about him for several times.
Måneskin are the ABBA of today!
Current single Mammamia, while ABBA's first single after Eurovision was called Mamma Mia as well, to add this.
Great commentary :) Love you guys :)
Re: Malta not having neighbours that vote for them - doesn't help if your jury shoves their closest neighbour under the bus in the ruthless determination to win.
yes, Malta, Cyprus, and San Marino...I believe they deserved to have higher points and place better.
Why they were so shallow and generic. And the public and juries obviously saw through that
just wanna point out that despite getting 0 points, Germany's average placement among the televotes was decently high at 17th, compared to Spain, UK and the Netherlands who all had average placements around 23rd (Jendrik was actually quite close to scoring points in some countries)
Where is Deban guys? We need him to bring some realness cause you r getting a tad boring
Ok so first Ukraine and Finland was in my top 10.
But alot of people are mad at the jury but Ukrain they were still in 9/26 and Finland 11/26.
So top 11 for a song this much extrem is pretty good. Not really jury friendly song.
So not so bad no? Really a question i'm curious by your respons. Thank you.
From France. I'm gonna read all your respons.
If the televote says Finland is top 5 than it has to be in the top 5.
Juries are necessary, Switzerland and France were masterpieces
Sr. Ten Even with just the televote both would have still been in the top 10. France in 3rd and Switzerland in 6th(?) so they weren't just appreciated by the juries.
It is a mystery for the bottom zeros. Just exactly how many VOTES did they get to have a zero final result.
i voted for Germany
Just no enough to break into any country's televote top 10.
escextra had some articles about that and they noticed that germany actually had decent average placement (just no top 10s) among the televotes
18:09 Williams face is the HIGHLIGHT of this video!!!! His reaction to Suzanne's "Hi Everybody" just kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
speaking on how destiny may not have come across too strong with her performance as she didn’t write it, but victoria from bulgaria wrote hers and for whatever reason that didn’t come across to televoters either.
where is Deban?? :(
actually in 2015, barbara would've won by 1 point
Good thing it's not 2015 then!
@@sweetgirl070707 it's just that oliver said that italy would've won by 1 point in the old system
uh yeah kinda sad yall went the whole video without really talking about gjon aka the jury winner? like...?
Suzanne is everything. I could listen to her all day. She just shines a brighter light on everything.
Italy really deserved it😍😍BUT I'm a bit sad about France not winning🥲🥲
Props to Oliver for pointing out that Katrina of Katrina and the Waves is American. Blows the Eurovision anti-American theory out of the water.
Or, you know, Celine...
@@UtamagUta Celine is Canadian.
@@UtamagUta compared to Flo Rida she wasn't famous before taking part in (and winning) Eurovision though, I dare say her breakthrough came a few years after winning Eurovision, when she sang "Beauty and the beast"
You should revioew two zeros collaborating in an English version of the Spanish song. The adorable Blas Canto and James Newman in a duo of "I'll Stay". My heart just pounded for the two. I know Blas is a great fan of Barabra. Hopefully they will have a new single together.
Also, it’s Flo Rosa. When was the last time he was relevant?
not too many thoughts, other than the fact that belgium was in The Wrong Place if you know what i mean
I was surprised that the juries preferred Switzerland over France honestly. She got more votes from the public than the jury which was totally unexpected imo and it was what ultimately ruined Barbara's chances at victory. She was never gonna win the televote but if someone told me before the contest that she had managed to come 3rd in it, I'd be sure she was the overall winner.
I'm glad everything worked out for Måneskin in the end though. I loved France, it was my second place but Italy was such a breath of fresh air. Their performance felt like an actual concert, they're very charismatic and have a captivating stage presence despite their young age. Plus it seems like they can achieve broad commercial success.
As far as the rest of the results go, Malta and San Marino failed to appeal to the general audience even though they were hyped for months inside the esc bubble. I liked Je me casse, I found the televote result too harsh but the juries overrated it. Performing so early on especially after Manizha who had a similar, yet presented in a far more authentic way, message and the oversaturation of female pop songs didn't do it any favors. Adrenalina was the classic fan favorite flop.
Bulgaria deserved better but I wasn't surprised. It was squeezed between Finland ,Lithuania and Ukraine in the running order and unlike them the song lacks immediacy. The commentators in Greece didn't even mention the story about her father so it's not like the photo would touch many people either without the context.
I also hope that in the top 10 crimes video of William and Deban there is some serious discussion about Moldova because William was too diplomatic on the semi final video. Something shady has definitely taken place here.
Moldova's song got radio play in a few countries and it was already popular before the final. It got the votes it deserved. The ''serious discussion'' needs to happen at the BBC regarding the non-existent promotion, honest work and support for the acts they send.
@@trildi Moldova got 8 12 points in the semi. That's a crazy number. To put it in context, the only songs that have got this amount of 12 points in their semi were Portugal and Bulgaria in 2017 ,both of which ended up getting huge scores in the final as well. Iceland and Finland only got 3 and 2 sets of 12 points each and they were the most popular acts in the semi (and they were also very successful in the final).
Most of these countries that gave Moldova 12 points in the semi didn't give Sugar a single point in the final. I understand that wiwibloggs may not feel comfortable discussing the matter in depth since they don't have actual proof that sth shady happened, but imo it's pretty obvious.
@@DaOneFame Serbia got most of its views from its neighbours (Slovenia, Croatia, North Macedonia + Serbia itself) and countries with large populations of Serbian diaspora ( Austria + Switzerland). It was trending at number 1 in those countries pre- contest. Not a surprise that it was those 5 countries that gave Serbia 5 x 12 points in the televote (60 of the 82 televote points Serbia received in the final).
@@trildi don’t you feel weird the fact that Moldova got 8 sets of 12 pts, yet failed to win the televotes in SF2. not to mention 4 out of 8 countries who gave them 12 pts in SF, places them very low in televoting in final and gets no points from the 4 countries. if you want to compare this with destiny, which also flops in televotes, don’t you think at least they would’ve been awarded some points like Destiny did? personally i like the song, but the fact that it has 8 sets of 12 pts beating the sf2 televote winner finland, is a little weird.
I’ve always agreed that maybe juries make it more fair, but if you dig into it, not really. Greece/Cyprus 12 points always, Russia/Moldova 10-12 points, Bulgaria/Moldova 12 points, Russia/Ukraine NEVER giving points to each other, Malta and France NOT giving Italy (their main competitor) any points. And public still gave a lot of points to Switzerland and France, so you can’t really say that people can’t appreciate a “jury” song. I still want jury, but they have to think how to make it more fair
Well, Italy televote gave 1 to France and jury 3, France jury gave 0 but televote 10 pts, so France gave more pts to Italy than Italy to France
@@angelus77300 Italy’s jury’s voted very fair even knowing they’re the favourites. That’s why also they deserved to win.
Russia, Bulgaria, Moldova is not a thing, it’s Kirkorov thing, if he wasn’t involved they wouldn’t give the maximum points to each other. Greece gave also 10 points to Moldova this year and to Russia in previous years , also Kirkorov effect.
@@angelus77300 Yeah and Italy finished 11th in the French jury so close enough.
@@TVESCFAN I talked about points, 4 pts from Italy to France isn t close to 10 pts given by France to Italy.
Were's Deban?
That's definitely a good question 😁
He was in Albania for Kenga Majike which had its final on the 29th of May and this video was filmed on the 30th. So he had likely only just gotten back to the UK or was still in Albania when this was filmed.
Yey, cant wait!
I really feel bad for the Netherlands 🇳🇱. He was so poignant and vocally perfect
I think the results on the night seemed pretty fair and about right overall. I would have loved to see Cyprus do abit better as well William. My biggest disappointment is how the UK is blaming anything but themselves for the poor showing. If we don’t change our attitude and dare to be bolder then we will never climb the leaderboard
love your channel but: not a single word about Switzerland?
@@DaOneFame A mess, yeah right.... Would like to see you get up there and do better. But it's always easier being a keyboard warrior....
About genres, Eurovision was open to country music with the Dutch acts. I also remember Germany and Texas Lightning.
Good points
. Portugal getting so much jury love and a very respectable score overall. Well deserved!
. France, Switzerland, Russia and Ukraine getting well deserved scores
. Finland finally doing what they do best!
Crimes
. San Marino and Malta's televote score. What should they do going forward. Will this turn off Andorra/Monaco from coming back?
. Netherlands getting 0 in the televote was not deserved
. Cyprus getting less points than Moldova
Why would Cyprus getting less points than Moldova be a crime? I mean i agree they should be close to each other in a spot cause both song are repetitive and don't have some meaningful lyrics but in rest i wouldn't even put it higher than Moldova
I’m sorry, but San Marino ended where it should’ve. The music video was great, but the live performance was a little messy and Senhit sounded out of breath.
I'm sorry but in no way was Moldova which finished 13th better than San Marino and objectively the song and performance as a whole was way better than Say Na Na that achieved a better result.
Regarding juries, can you actually see how each jury member voted? On the website there is a breakdown by juror listed as 'a' 'b' etc and a separate list in a "random order" of who is on the jury but I don't see where it says that x person voted in x way?
It still hurts that we didn’t qualify and even more that we were last 😭
Well, not last overall at least. Just last in Semi 1. :( Still unfortunate though
Still my favorite song this Eurovision, just sad execution of staging wasn't necessarily great.
It does, but I think we deserved last this year if you look at that night alone(disregarding how good the song was). The staging just didn’t work and she was out of tune. Objectively, It would have been unfair if anyone came after her
@@raindropsonroses3919 to be honest I was a huge supporter of Irelands song. I really enjoyed it, BUT, she was out of breath, out of tune (at times) and too focused on the interaction with the staging which really came at a cost of the overall performance. I was so shocked and surprised at how it just didn't deliver and I feel that (as sad as it made me) she earned that position due to her shaky performance.
I think if both the UK and ireland had seasoned performers singing both those songs, it may have been a different story.
@@AmaanStorm Her voice fully changed from the video it was sooooo weird
I like both France and Italy (my fav was Switzerland btw), but I have to disagree to all these people who saw modernity in Maneskin, they are pretty similar to 70's rock icons in behaviour, style and music. Btw, congrats to Italy 💕
I didn't know 70s rock groups were used to "rap" in their songs... good to know!
@@janeyre82 Rap was born in the 70’s 😉
@@mariafrancesc0 Still more modern than chanson!
@@trildi the best performance and the most modern stage in my opinion was Switzerland.
France was classic but beautiful.
Italy was beautiful, too, even if i am not a fan of rock, they are so talented✨
@Mariette Τ. that’s true, I love the style of 70’s rockers😍!
And for your winner, t a s t e 👏🏼😌
Gijon Tears reminded me a bit of Loreen´s Euphoria , I mean his moves+it reminded me a bit of Arcade(but his song from last year did sound much more like Arcade )
Malta sounded for me like she wanted to cover Netta´s winning song.
The french song reminded me a bit of Edith Piaf .
Most times I don´t like (ESC ) copies.
I love Italy, I never heard a rock song in italian language before +I never heard a combination of a rock song with rap.+i love Go_A I never heard folk song with techno beats before. Italy+Ukraine were my favorites this year but I wished the win for Italy more because they waited so long for a win.
Wow Greece was not even mentioned neither in semi final 2 nor in final results video. Stefania got into top 10 and its like this seat is empty . I dont understand it as Greece became a big dark horse because everyone thought that she is gonna last 18-20th . Also greece was (maybe) the most balanced country in both jury and televote .
Being in the middle kinda sucks cause people tend to forget about those places. I think it applies to other similar entries as well (Bulgaria, Norway...).
@@DaOneFame Except for the staging..
@@DaOneFame "Never done before" doesn't automatically equate to "amazing" or "great". It was quite a boring and a bit sloppy staging, especially compared to all the hype made around it before it happened live. I LOVED the song and Stefania, but I think that slight overall disappointment in staging killed Greece's chances for even higher placement.
For Flo Roda. perhaps Euroivisionaries were voting to exclude any interest by US in Eurovision. And Americans were so cynical the same way against Eurovision.
I guess Flo Rida isn't that big of a name in Europe after all
Where is Deban?
He was... busy 🤣
I do not understand why the juries didn't vote for Lithuania either!
Zero points does not mean that these countries got 0 votes overall. It means that they just did not get into the top 10 of combined votes of any country. If you phrase it that way it is basically saying that they all got any position between 11-14 in any country which is not that easy. So they did get votes but just not enough to get on the board.
I am talking about the televote not the jury vote obviously.
Fun fact: all people in this video are from countries which got no points in this Eurovision.
They're all native English speakers, and Wiwibloggs is an English-language channel, so I fail to understand what point you're trying to make
@@enriqueali You really don't need native English speakers to be able to have a conversation in English. See most TH-cam channels. So what's yóur point?
Why did Azerbaijan get so few points? 😢
Maybe because the song does not really sing about anything. It is just a collection of words, but without saying anything about why is it called "Mata Hari"
@@alexalexiye9791 Yeah exactly. She has like 3 lyrics to sing lmao
@@alexalexiye9791 Hmmmm.... Moldova 13 place, so deeply meaningful song....
@@suleymanova3377 Mata Hari, Sugar, Adrenalina, Je me casse, Voila... All of these songs are just repeating the same lyrics at the refrain and it's not that meaningful and all of them got different places 🤷
@@suleymanova3377 Kirkorov
I just think that Adrenalina wasn't good enough. I was never really hyped about the song. FloRida ok, but he didn't make the song that much better. For me, the song wasn't just good enough. I never understood the hype. So I think the song deserved the spot it got.
There were no doubts had to win, they went beyond general esc standards.
Just want to say thanks to the polish jury for placing UK 11th... Everyone else put UK near last 😂
William's facial expressions watching his sister....🤣❤😅❤😂❤
No word on the highest note record break by Eden from Israel?
Where were the tigers? There are no tigers.
On the wall during the blue segment, there were also rabbits but the camera shots never showed it, u can see it on live on tape
In terms of the split results, the jury vote pretty much went to the form book in my eyes: Switzerland, France and Malta rewarded the most! In terms of the televote, glad to see the acts bringing something different to the table being rewarded like Italy, Ukraine and Finland. But also really poor results for the likes of Malta, San Marino and the UK felt really disappointing and harsh!
Overall I think one of the stories is that poor vocals were not tolerated this year - by juries or televoters. 3 of my favourite songs of the year were Latvia, Ireland and the UK.. but 3 of the worst vocal performances were from those three countries, and they each came last in their Semis/the Grand Final. It's a shame because all had great songs and I love Samanta, Lesley and James.. but the standard was so strong this year!
I voted 5 time for Spain, but the rest of my vote went to Italy. They were amazing.
How have you got genderless and borderless from maneskins performance? Feels a bit of a reach, challenging gender norms sure but genderless?
Yeah he neant it more like challenging gender norms :)
Gjon’s Tears is my winner.
@@DaOneFame that is only your opinion . Not mine.
@@DaOneFame copying of Mahmood's dancing??😂 this has to be one of the funniest thoughts I've read about Gjon's performance 😂 I think the dancing parts were very well done and he proved that it wasn't just a performance of a typical ballad song, it was something different! that's why it appealed to both the jury and the public.
@@DaOneFame well, maybe some of the moves seemed that way, but since Gjon said that it is a warrior song, the movements in that part fit very well.
@@DaOneFame 165 points is still a lot (6th-7th place together with The Roop). also, you don't need to be the winner of eurovision to be liked by people. lots of artists in lower places did well in their careers, I'm sure Gjon will too. peace ✌️
I really think that what Manneskin has achieved is just like any other year.
We have to remember Lordi in 2006 and Dana in 1998 and Conchita in 2014.
This is Eurovision. Progressive and conservative hand in hand in full harmony.
Should big five have to qualify? Maybe only winner straight to final?
Big five/six makes zero difference. Italy and France were great and got points they deserved. Netherlands/UK/Gremany Spain. Were not up to final standards and were basically shoved out the final.
@@TheJttv was just thinking only have acts that qualified and not have a situation where someone gets zero. Basically the qualifiers have kinda proved themselves popular
i always feel they have a disadvantage as NOBODY's watching their preview performances in semis.
I think the top 5 places in Eurovision should autoqualify , so Italy, France, Switzerland, Iceland and Ukraine should auto qualify
There would probably be no Eurovision without the Big Five, so... no
I hope for next year there will be the return of the orchestra and to overcome the tight deadlines for the changes it is enough to make two identical stages while a singer sings in the other stage they prepare everything for the next one so you have time to make all the connections
What did I just watch? 47 minutes of nothing but “yeah, it’s a shame it didn’t do well” and ducky doo whoever Instagram account?
I don't know if this is just me, but literally most of the songs that I love the past 2 Eurovisions (that were not cancelled) did poorly
2019: I thought Keiino from Norway was the best, I also thought Bilal is the best entry from France up until 2021, but besides that my top 10 included Portugal, Ireland, Armenia, Finland, Georgia, Romania, Belarus and Spain. With Belarus being the only one qualifying placing 24th an Spain being an auto qualifier placing 22nd, everyone else were non-qualifiers
2021: Latvia, Romania, Czech Republic, Croatia and Ireland are non-qualifiers, with Ireland being my FAVORITE entry, are non qualifiers. Then there's also San Marino, Senhit queen being 2nd for me, placing only higher than the countries with 0 televote points. However luckily this year I did better with France, Switzerland, Ukraine and Finland being in the top 10 that's in Europe's top 10
4chansons du Top 5 sont chantées dans la langue maternelle des artistes: il est peut-être là, l'avenir de ce concours, non? Le "tout anglais" et le "tout pop" sont peut-être ringards?
The fact that everyone is so against Moldova surprises me really. It's a good song, come on. The vocals were decent and the beat immediately captivates you. The visuals were not the best comparing to the music video but also weren't as boring as many other songs in the final...
That's totally understandable for me that it finished in the middle.
It was not bad at all, it's just most people strongly prefered that similar type of entries like Serbia, Cyprus, Azerbaijan and San Marino, way more than they liked Moldova, so they think those should have been placed higher than Moldova.
I've heard at least two musicians on You Tube say that Natalia's vocals were pitchier than a line of old fashioned tents.
Switzerland was the best 👏👏👏
100% the UK deserved to be at the bottom. (Maybe not nil points but definitely deserved 26th.) Trumpets and a white guy with cornrows. Bell ends and racism; you can't say it wasn't a perfect representation of the UK right now.
I'd love to dispute that but can't.
Who are these people that talking here , we waisted our time to listen to their very shallow thoughts . Their are kids that likes the rock songs , and this girl it’s very annoying when she talks and talks about colors and nothing
I voted for Cyprus along with Italy so yeah. It was in the UK so it didn't help Cyprus although Italy a bit.