I only preorder if I know I'm going to buy it no matter how fuckin busted it is. The amount of games that meet this standard are pretty rare, but there are some. For example, any dark souls/elden ring type game from Fromsoft. I don't care how busted at launch those are, I'm not missing out. FFXIV expansion? Of fucking course I'm getting that day one anyway, I don't care if I have to fight a million other players in server queues. For a person like me who is fucking shit at handling money, for these must-have games I want to ensure I actually preorder them when I have the money for it just in case I happen to have made myself broke come release day. But, most games don't meet that standard, most games I can wait.
There's a few games I've been seeing on Steam right now with "Coming Soon!" and "Playable Demo" active right now. Actually respect that A LOT. Not only skipping the FOMO bullcrap, but ALSO giving you a full playable taste of the game before you buy it? Really? What is this? The 90s?
Its called Premium Account fir some hoster, i paid 50€ so basically fir a year all Games are for free for me. I try some Games and If i Like them i buy them. No more pre Orders blind buys No more 2 hours refund bs.
in his defense, he's basically a reviewer. reviewers need to preorder to tell everyone else if it's shit. that would probably mean a lot of people hoping to break into the reviewer racket.
@@signalnine2601 a reviewer/commentator that doesn't practice what they preach isn't someone worth listening to. He doesn't need to review or even play the game frame one. Especially when we live in the era of day one patches, you're guaranteed to have a worse experience by doing that.
he makes money by buying games day 1 we loose money by buying on day 1. if he preorders and shits on the game the dev will make less money. there is literally no downside to this. he says you shouldnt waste money, thats what he preaches. so its not dishonest when he buys d1, as he dosent waste his money.
@@angulinhiduje6093 If you're unable to see the hypocrisy and how it only works to feed into the problem I don't know what to tell you. Him preordering in order to get a couple days early access is a bad idea regardless of if the game is good or not because it tells more game companies that this is an accepted practice. And even if it the game is bad and he talks shit about it, the devs won't lose a cent. Not only are they getting his money, they'll also be getting the money from the morons in his fanbase that see him getting early access and wanting it for themselves too. Hell, they may even be thinking they have a higher chance to play with him if they preorder, so that only pushes more to do so.
Remember The emperor loves humanity and wanted everyone to be happy and loved and all that cringe stuff witch means the emperor could have been a supportive of the lgbtq, so you can't call warhammer phobic and stuff
I'm so glad I'm not the only one in the comments whose thoughts immediately jumped to TB upon seeing this. Yesterday was the 6th anniversary of his passing, btw. Still miss him.
If it took that moron telling you not to pre order to not pre order, you definitely have a large dent in your head. And don’t act like all you weren’t pre ordering everything all the time.
I'm less worried about pre-order stuff and more worried about the writing. Considering GW's recent trip down stupid valley with the amazong TV show, that sort of stupidity might find it's way into other things as well. I do have faith in the devs but I just hope GW leaves them the fuck alone to work as they intend.
Pre-orders made sense with the scarcity of physical media, but are a holdover from that era only because it puts money in the developer's pockets faster. I'm not going to grovel after a refund on their graces later, I'll just keep my cash in hand until word-of-mouth convinces me parting with it is a fair investment. Consumerism is stupid and advertising quite abrasive.
I think it makes sense so that they can scale the servers according to demand on launch. But I agree that there are many more bells and whistles into it that are against the consumer best interest.
@@HyperMario64 Don't forget that traditional pre-ordering meant you only put a small down payment on the product to "hold" it. Gamestop used to only require like $5 I'm pretty sure. This could still be accomplished today with like a 1$ pre-order fee so people can "support" the dev and also give them a fair idea of how many copies will be selling. There's never a need to sell or pay for digital air that doesn't even exist.
3 player co-op, 6 classes, immediately gave me the vibe of Spacehulk Deathwing. With the trailer, the commander tells him he can only spare 3 marines, so it would seem like even playing solo through the campaign you're going to have two wingmen with you, similar to solo Deathwing. Someone had a jump pack, someone had a power hammer, I think I saw someone with a power shield in there, and obviously there was a heavy bolter as well, so with 6 classes, there will probably be at least 2 melee classes (likely jump assault and shield assault), there will be a heavy class, probably a "standard" marine class with a bolter... I wonder if there will be an apothecary as well? If they do this right, people will still be doing co-op in this 10 years from now. The first Space Marine had some legs on it; even after the company that owned it vanished from reality, people were still buying copies of Space Marine and the DLCs.
@@jaggeriscoughmedicine without doing any research i would think it is game devs wanted to get funding for a game they are working on so they release half baked version with the goal of finishing it with the money gained. and then scammers and corporations realized they can get money for doing less work . again didnt research so i could be wrong. but i feel like this is accurate.
But why?.. Why there is 3 every time? I guess Tzinch the only one who knows P. S: oh nvm there is 4 days earlier, equal to the number of Gods of chaos, now it's kinda legit
Remember when Tekken 8 promised that same thing, then a week later added a micro-transaction shop after initial reviews? Yeah. I don't believe a single thing these companies say until a month after the game releases.
Remember how Stellar Blade promised absolutely ZERO censorship in their game, period? Yeah. I’m in the same boat as you. Even if the studios have every intention of keeping their word, as long as they’re leashed by a major corporation I consider it so much piss in the breeze.
@@OneBiasedOpinion Aww, I'm so sorry you couldn't drool over digitial boobies as much as you hoped for, even for just a little while until they rolled it back because you all started throwing temper tantrums like toddlers over digital boobies.
@@weisilber8957 red war was peak for anyone played Destiny 1 I agree with you for the two dlcs that follow the launch it was trash that i left destiny for fortnite 😂💔 in 2018
With the amount of BS Games Workshop already gets, they need Space Marine 2 to be a smash hit or they’re fucked. This is their chance to get people into the hobby after some of their pricing fiascos, and what not. TL;DR: Don’t pre-order, but if you do, you’re at least in better hands than Helldivers 2.
@@LinkiePupThem needing a smash hit doesn't mean they suddenly care about quality. It means they care about monetization. Them needing a smash hit makes it more likely to be trash, not less likely.
I'm confused are you referring to how it launched or how they were going to change the game requirements 3 months after launch? Because one is don't buy the game at launch and the other is don't buy a game ever.
@@LinkiePup oh my sweet summer child, GW has always been shit and everyone has been mad at them for over 30 years but warhammer keeps growing, its the biggest its ever been now and keeps getting bigger, they dont NEED a smash hit, they dont need shit.
I love how Shelby shoves the guy, and the dude next to him, without ever actually questioning or processing what's happening, IMMEDIATELY throws something at the guy.
PRE-ORDER IS HERESY: THE ACT OF WORSHIPING THE RUINOUS POWERS OF CHAOS BY AIDING CORPORATIONS ATTEMPTING TO SUBVERT THE RULES OF THE IMPERIUM OF GAMERS
Paid DLC will be cosmetic only. Well to be fair I remember when cosmetics were free all around. Do challenges to unlock a skin, beat the game on a harder difficulty to get a skin, etc. Get your budgets under control and you wouldn't feel the need to charge a quarter of the games price on cosmetics.
why? i can just cancel the pre order before launch, or refund the game post launch? if you're pre ordering a game on steam, uplay, or origin you have options to cancel the pre order or refund the game post launch. literally zero difference in the ability to refund a purchase for someone who pre ordered and someone who bought a game on launch day.
@@themrlace for that there were surprisingly many demons (white males) in that trailer. Also there was not a black girl on a wheelchair in her space-marine armor
why? i can just cancel the pre order before launch, or refund the game post launch? if you're pre ordering a game on steam, uplay, or origin you have options to cancel the pre order or refund the game post launch. literally zero difference in the ability to refund a purchase for someone who pre ordered and someone who bought a game on launch day.
@@antoinep.2565ppl can do wirh THEYR money what they like. I pre ordered it too so what ?, my money, my Problem. Worry about your own shit. You don't wann pre order ?. Thats fine your choice, but don't go tellin ppl what they should or shouldnt do.
Can confirm she got fired 5 years ago, I think it's 6 years ago soon. Brb, fact checking myself Results: They're still using her main story so I stopped caring
@@bluwlvrine I’m typing on a phone so autocorrect is a thing. B I obviously care more about it than a colonizer like you. If you want nerd cred I've got a few kill teams and a Necron army so
@@bluwlvrine a autocorrect fucks with me b I have 3 kill teams and a Necron army of zahndrekh so tell me you colonizer how much you care when you have zero investment or interest in the world.
Pre ordering made sense when you were trying to get a day 1 copy of Halo 2 from EB, now everything is digital and there are no supply limitations I don't know why people do it anymore, especially since big releases are now known for day 1 jank.
I used to enjoy seeing all the physical memorabilia a preorder used to get you. Now with digital? They're grifting people and said people are happy to open wide and gobble it up. 🤦♂️
warhammer games are not big releases, but also warhammer games are plagued with issues regardless, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE, most of which never get fixed, theyre all cursed and i hate it when all you normies come in and are dumbfounded by it
Stop preordering games, _and don't buy this game in particular, at all_ . Written by Ashley Cooper, licensed by the company that brought you female custodes and transgender space marines. How about 'no?'
First, she got fired in pre-production. Second, game has nothing to do with custodes(Not to mention the codex writing team for games workshop has absolutely nothing to do with the production of space marine 2) and third, "Trans space marines" are not a thing.
@@helmaksi True but i wouldn't be surprised if they add in last minute some bs abcd community nonsense. God please let them not destroy this promising game.
@@SK-zl6sl To answer your question, yes there will be a beta. Honestly baffles me that people like OP post comments like this without doing their research.
Wasn't it Total Biscuit, RIP, who said something like if you pre-order the game you're "paying the most for the worst version" of it? But so many won't learn.
Yes, pre-order incentivizes company to do more minimal viable product aka. barely working game and promise to fix it later with patch year later. I'm broke the rule one time for Cyberpunk, totally believed in that CDPR will never fk it up. It's turn out no corp is safe from the corruption
Worst thing is that in some previous books, I think one of the Horus Heresy series ones, in a flashback scene, Horus, freshly appointed Warmaster, secretly comes to Earth to consult Malcador on what he should do and how he should play on this Warmaster thing. At some point Malcador mentions that he had advised papa Emps to create female Primarchs too but his idea got rejected. Do you understand that some people will actually quote this as "already established lore"? The setting is doomed.
As Sony’s proven, an apology means exactly jack and shit these days. They need to put rubber to the road and reverse some really anti-consumer business decisions before I’ll tolerate their nonsense again. Which they’ll never do.
1:45 For those curious, that's a thing in the Chaos factions of 40k called a Heldrake. Lore changes from time to time slightly, but it's basically a fighter jet/spaceship that was mutated into a dragon.
No microtransactions, yeah, we've heard that before. I'll play the shit out of this game but GW made it clear they don't want my money, so they won't get any.
@@steelman6403 Yeah, I like this model (comparitively to other possible ones), but saying that you don't have micro transactions in your game when you offer DLCs that are anything but large non-cosmetic content additions (expansions) is strange. Singular cosmetic DLCs sound like of the examples of micro transations to me. I guess in their mind (assuming they actually believe this) micro transactions are those transactions in which you pay for in-game currencies.
i am not a warhammer fan and i only know boltgun from the franchise but when they say only cosmetic DLC they are saying that there will not be any kind of P2W like "skill points" , "XP boost" or "early broken character" the grey zone is that they could implement some QoL in the DLC which solve a problem they purposely created in the first place sadly, paying full AAA price and then paying other things is the standard nowadays since games selling don't have a very long longevity, they want to fill their pockets fast and move to the next project/sequel
@@Dimas_Lopes no, that's not really what micro transaction means nowadays, there isn't really any p2w stuff for most part, what they are describing as paid dlc is standard micro transaction, they are just trying to act like they are any better then the rest
Yeah, given the direction Games Workshop's been taking recently, definitely no preorders. Wait for a review. This might be the last hurrah for warhammer. We'll see.
Its DEFINITELY the last hurrah, no one remembers old lore about space marines looking like their genefather, so having a scottish ultramarine, an african ultramarine, and an asian ultramarine all in the same room really throws me off. I guess guilliman is just a very mixed primarch lmfao
@@stronensycharte64 "space marines looking like their genefather", that's literaly only true for a few legions like Blood Angels or Raven Guard that have a gene flaw that causes their marines to look like their genefather as time pass. Ultramarine geneseed doesn't have that flaw.
@@stronensycharte64 Ultramar literally harbours over 500 worlds, is one place where people DEF go to live for a better chance at life, and it, like Rome, is a melting pot of different ethnicities. The Blood Angels, one of the few where this is true, can get any fucking person, literally the most deformed son of a bitch alive, and if he lives past the trials? He's given a geneseed and becomes as handsome as Sanguinius. And everyone accepts that is not normal in lore. The Salamanders' geneseed causes the initiate's skin and eyes to mutate into charcoal-black and red-blazing respectively. No matter the race or skin color. And if you mean 1st edition, surprise surprise, we had Fem Space Marines back then, as well as ritualistic Shit-Eating gatherings. 40K has no care for race, sexual preference, skin color or anything. Only that you can hold a weapon and die for the Emperor. So get it straight, you fucking tourist.
@@stronensycharte64 there’s like a million examples in the lore of marines being different races than their primarch, I was confused about that for a long time too.
Few things you all need to do before playing this game, if not done already. 1. read up on the lore of Space Marines, and the Ultramarine Chapter for SM 2. read up on Orkz, Chaos Space Marine, ans Tyranids 3. Play the first game, Space Marine 1 4. Play Helldivers 2 on Helldive difficulty SOLO against the Terminids 5. Now you are ready for the Grim Dark Future, where there is only war, and play Space Marine 2. You are Captain Titus, a distinguished Ultramarine, leading his squad against the Great Devourer and the neverending Tyranids Swarm.
they are so much worse then that but yes, honestly don't know how the fuck they expect us to fight one of those, its basically an ancient dragon from Elden ring ON CRACK lol.
So we're gonna fight Nids and Demons? Would be dope to see them fight against each other, especially if the Nids fighting the demons had the coloration of Hive Fleet Kronos
Option 1: Pre-order for 3 extra days of unplayable bugs. Option 2: Wait 2 months for them to do the bait and switch then get a pirate if it's worth it.
Dude cmon, don't stoop as low as pirating it, it seems they really did put some love into this game and it looks fricking epic. But ya, modern games tend to have a lot of bugs at launch
Wait 2 months is the right move, pirating is a horrible move. If the game is worth your time, it's worth your money. If you want more games like this, tell them with your money. Otherwise we'll keep getting garbage filled with microtransactions.
changed the lore? like they've done countless times already? if you're upset about one retcon you have to be upset about all retcons... choosing when to be upset about retcons is massively stupid. go look up the lore and how it's changed over the years and you'd be surprised what you'll find.
@@maellemoine-s5727 I didn't even notice it was a Heldrake. I am painting one right now for my tabletop collection! But yeah best way to describe a Heldrake would be, Yeah Dragon 😂
While i agree, gears was meant to be a bit more sci fi military/tactical? Warhammer has grown into fantastical sci fi. A handful of space marines could wage a never ending war for an entire planet, and it would just be tuesday.
@@vissermatt1058 I'll bring the classic arguement that 40k isn't sci-fi, it's science-fantasy. It's orks, and elves and dwarves and magic but in space.
I’m gonna guess it’s like how it used to be back in the day with cod gunskins there was a bunch of free ones that you earned, but you could buy a few like in bo2
"All paid DLC cosmetics only". Is this supposed to be a good thing? Customization is part of the game, it should be included in the price. I never understood how "it's just cosmetics" is a valid excuse for a DLC.
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Blessed be the HOLY EDITOR!
Holy that edit was soo good haha
Holy Editor Protects Us!
someone needs to put up a review of no pre orders on steam haha
Aye... He do
One rule, never pre order games.
^ What this guy said.
Never buy a pig in a poke.
Unless that game made by Fromsoftware.
Except there are from fromsoft
I only preorder if I know I'm going to buy it no matter how fuckin busted it is. The amount of games that meet this standard are pretty rare, but there are some.
For example, any dark souls/elden ring type game from Fromsoft. I don't care how busted at launch those are, I'm not missing out. FFXIV expansion? Of fucking course I'm getting that day one anyway, I don't care if I have to fight a million other players in server queues. For a person like me who is fucking shit at handling money, for these must-have games I want to ensure I actually preorder them when I have the money for it just in case I happen to have made myself broke come release day.
But, most games don't meet that standard, most games I can wait.
Developer: you can pre-order!
Customer: you can provide playable demo!
Damn I forgot about playable demos
Crazy how it is now a days
God I miss demo's and demo discs. ALOT less bs broken crap was peddled back then.
Very relevant because I bought Space Marine 1 after playing the demo.
There's a few games I've been seeing on Steam right now with "Coming Soon!" and "Playable Demo" active right now.
Actually respect that A LOT. Not only skipping the FOMO bullcrap, but ALSO giving you a full playable taste of the game before you buy it? Really?
What is this? The 90s?
Its called Premium Account fir some hoster, i paid 50€ so basically fir a year all Games are for free for me. I try some Games and If i Like them i buy them. No more pre Orders blind buys No more 2 hours refund bs.
"females are misrepresented in Warhammer"
Somebody ban that guy
Only in the new lore.
The female Custodes are misrepresented because there is no such thing as one.
@@thenewplantationisinyourmindwhy tho
@@mrmemes170biology really
@@thenewplantationisinyourmind so based
@@ThatAnimalRaptor don’t they just inject testosterone into them lol?
Golden rule of modern gaming
NEVER PRE ORDER GAMES
You can issue a refund at any time if the game is bad.
Thanks.
Jackass
@@swift2873not if you pre order lol.
Unless it's made by FromSoft
People are stupid, they'd still preorder
The entire edit at the end, with Asmon walking in... 🤣
in his defense, he's basically a reviewer. reviewers need to preorder to tell everyone else if it's shit.
that would probably mean a lot of people hoping to break into the reviewer racket.
@@signalnine2601 a reviewer/commentator that doesn't practice what they preach isn't someone worth listening to.
He doesn't need to review or even play the game frame one. Especially when we live in the era of day one patches, you're guaranteed to have a worse experience by doing that.
he makes money by buying games day 1 we loose money by buying on day 1.
if he preorders and shits on the game the dev will make less money. there is literally no downside to this.
he says you shouldnt waste money, thats what he preaches. so its not dishonest when he buys d1, as he dosent waste his money.
@@angulinhiduje6093 If you're unable to see the hypocrisy and how it only works to feed into the problem I don't know what to tell you.
Him preordering in order to get a couple days early access is a bad idea regardless of if the game is good or not because it tells more game companies that this is an accepted practice.
And even if it the game is bad and he talks shit about it, the devs won't lose a cent. Not only are they getting his money, they'll also be getting the money from the morons in his fanbase that see him getting early access and wanting it for themselves too. Hell, they may even be thinking they have a higher chance to play with him if they preorder, so that only pushes more to do so.
@@Vilonu no, you're just dumb
this shelby scene, pure gold
Not even a peeky blinder gov?
Never preorder
The ending had me rolling lol
@@jakestefano4118 that scotch bottle was still half full. Oh the humanity!
That was my favorite part of the show, Can't believe the writers saw this coming all the way back then
IGN will give it 3/10 for not being gay enough.
- Too much water
- Not enough gay
They ll get a non binary 2/10 genders score of meta sexual
iGN is a complete joke now. Pretty much the CNN of the gaming world.
I was looking for something about DEI but this one shall do, lol.
Remember
The emperor loves humanity and wanted everyone to be happy and loved and all that cringe stuff witch means the emperor could have been a supportive of the lgbtq, so you can't call warhammer phobic and stuff
Edit: "Finish the fight, just don't let me finish it first"
Devs: But, it's already finished. We're working on Day 1 patches, Day 2 Patches, Day..
@@MasterOfLazyness remember that Devs, typically aren't the problem. they don't hold enough power. game producers are the issue
@@danielstrange2888 As a dev in the industry for two decades I wish i could tell you that was true, but in reality people like money by any means.
More often than not, it's not the dev studio, it's their publisher pushing them to release by a specific date.
You haven't met many gamers if you think this is what the majority are saying. Hint: publishers keep doing this because it keeps working.
The Emperor never pre-ordered, nor shall I.
He pre-ordered the Primarchs and didn't get what he paid for. Most of them had a lot of issues.
ALL GLORY TO THE EMPEROR!
@@LordEquinox123 So was Horus like the Pre-Alpha? PUBG Style lol
did the emperor have micro transactions?
The Emperor always orders on time, never early, never late.
In memory of the house of Totalbiscuit! WE DO NOT PRE-ORDER!!!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one in the comments whose thoughts immediately jumped to TB upon seeing this.
Yesterday was the 6th anniversary of his passing, btw. Still miss him.
NO DUCKING PREORDERS
maybe it's good that he is not seeing the shit that we are in right now with gaming industry. TB was THE GUY!
If it took that moron telling you not to pre order to not pre order, you definitely have a large dent in your head.
And don’t act like all you weren’t pre ordering everything all the time.
I'm less worried about pre-order stuff and more worried about the writing. Considering GW's recent trip down stupid valley with the amazong TV show, that sort of stupidity might find it's way into other things as well.
I do have faith in the devs but I just hope GW leaves them the fuck alone to work as they intend.
2:33 And Pre Order he did
That "dragon" is a Heldrake. A daemonically possessed war-machine in the shape of a flying dragon.
Preorder now and get a limited time non combat Heldrake as a pet! Preorder now!
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis Last chance!
@PhilipAlexanderHassialis - it's never been released before but it's already 60% off. Don't miss out! Ends in 7hrs.
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis don't know bro, that sounds like Heresy to me.
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis Mini Heldrake pet to join me in my crusade? Don't mind if I do
Pre-orders made sense with the scarcity of physical media, but are a holdover from that era only because it puts money in the developer's pockets faster. I'm not going to grovel after a refund on their graces later, I'll just keep my cash in hand until word-of-mouth convinces me parting with it is a fair investment. Consumerism is stupid and advertising quite abrasive.
Only reason a lot of gamers buy into the hype is to play with their friends
I think it makes sense so that they can scale the servers according to demand on launch. But I agree that there are many more bells and whistles into it that are against the consumer best interest.
Agree but I would say it's more about publisher than developer. Or whoever holds the purse and order DEI loans.
@@HyperMario64 Don't forget that traditional pre-ordering meant you only put a small down payment on the product to "hold" it. Gamestop used to only require like $5 I'm pretty sure. This could still be accomplished today with like a 1$ pre-order fee so people can "support" the dev and also give them a fair idea of how many copies will be selling. There's never a need to sell or pay for digital air that doesn't even exist.
I don't really care
Its gonna be on ok game at the worst and you can literally cancel at anypoint if you end up needing it
People have forgotten the message of our lord and saviour, TotalBiscuit.
Never pre order.
RIP John Bain
Gamers and their gold fish memories.
"The fallen shall be forever remembered as the Emperor's finest"
Wasn't he very specifically atheist? Not sure just remember that being the case.
Ya that was a long time ago, the OG telling us no pre-orders and no one listened.
I never pre ordered a game in my life and been pirating for over 12+ years..
Who TF is John bain
3 player co-op, 6 classes, immediately gave me the vibe of Spacehulk Deathwing. With the trailer, the commander tells him he can only spare 3 marines, so it would seem like even playing solo through the campaign you're going to have two wingmen with you, similar to solo Deathwing. Someone had a jump pack, someone had a power hammer, I think I saw someone with a power shield in there, and obviously there was a heavy bolter as well, so with 6 classes, there will probably be at least 2 melee classes (likely jump assault and shield assault), there will be a heavy class, probably a "standard" marine class with a bolter... I wonder if there will be an apothecary as well?
If they do this right, people will still be doing co-op in this 10 years from now. The first Space Marine had some legs on it; even after the company that owned it vanished from reality, people were still buying copies of Space Marine and the DLCs.
We actually saw all of their name in the trailer being:
Tactical, Assault, Vanguard, Bulwark, Sniper, Heavy
seems your predictions are all right
Except they did not read any 40k cause space mar8jes by codex do not work in groups of 3
@@timothypricesr5953 You don't know what you're talking about
@@timothypricesr5953 isn't Titus in the Deathwatch? Their rules must not be the same as the standard Ultramarine squad.
@@screescree3621 yep is table top guys don’t know warhammer….. bet your a new doctor who fan
“Remember - no pre orders.”
- Makarov, probably
How did pre orders become a thing
@@jaggeriscoughmedicine without doing any research i would think it is game devs wanted to get funding for a game they are working on so they release half baked version with the goal of finishing it with the money gained. and then scammers and corporations realized they can get money for doing less work .
again didnt research so i could be wrong. but i feel like this is accurate.
Well I did preorder Elden Ring dlc so it is what it is
“Dont fucking pre order”
- Me, I said that
Because games used to be sold only physically and could easily sell out cause or scarcity.@@jaggeriscoughmedicine
"3 days earlier"... I see a pattern here
But why?.. Why there is 3 every time? I guess Tzinch the only one who knows
P. S: oh nvm there is 4 days earlier, equal to the number of Gods of chaos, now it's kinda legit
It can stagger the server load, since not everyone tried to launch co-op on first day.
The ending of this clip is pure comedy gold, god fucking damn thats good
Too bad, already did. The dev's read books to stay true to the source material, that sold me.
Remember when Tekken 8 promised that same thing, then a week later added a micro-transaction shop after initial reviews? Yeah. I don't believe a single thing these companies say until a month after the game releases.
Remember how Stellar Blade promised absolutely ZERO censorship in their game, period?
Yeah. I’m in the same boat as you. Even if the studios have every intention of keeping their word, as long as they’re leashed by a major corporation I consider it so much piss in the breeze.
@@OneBiasedOpinion Well at least they rolled back on censorship, but ye, that was Richard move.
@@OneBiasedOpinion Aww, I'm so sorry you couldn't drool over digitial boobies as much as you hoped for, even for just a little while until they rolled it back because you all started throwing temper tantrums like toddlers over digital boobies.
Same thing with Helldivers 2 and the whole PSN situation.
What a mess that was...
@@Kairax wasn't it only a couple of outfits they removed it from though?
that final edit is a work of art
The last bit caught off guard LMAO. Kudos to the editor
My last 10yrs pre orders was
- Black ops 3 (for zombies)
- Battlefield 1
- Destiny 2
- Red dead 2
- Elden ring
definitely worth it
Rdr2 was the best pre order for me i’ve done in my life
@@NobleKnightForever 100% worth it 🔥
@@QKops Pre ordering Destiny 2 was definitely not worth it.
@@weisilber8957 red war was peak for anyone played Destiny 1
I agree with you for the two dlcs that follow the launch it was trash that i left destiny for fortnite 😂💔 in 2018
cope
After what happened to Helldivers. Remember, dont trust corporations.
Take everything with a pinch of salt these days. We get fucked from places we never thought would be possible in the first place.
With the amount of BS Games Workshop already gets, they need Space Marine 2 to be a smash hit or they’re fucked.
This is their chance to get people into the hobby after some of their pricing fiascos, and what not.
TL;DR: Don’t pre-order, but if you do, you’re at least in better hands than Helldivers 2.
@@LinkiePupThem needing a smash hit doesn't mean they suddenly care about quality. It means they care about monetization. Them needing a smash hit makes it more likely to be trash, not less likely.
I'm confused are you referring to how it launched or how they were going to change the game requirements 3 months after launch?
Because one is don't buy the game at launch and the other is don't buy a game ever.
@@LinkiePup oh my sweet summer child, GW has always been shit and everyone has been mad at them for over 30 years but warhammer keeps growing, its the biggest its ever been now and keeps getting bigger, they dont NEED a smash hit, they dont need shit.
That Tommy Shelby edit with Asmon walking at the end had me dying LOL
and that schmuck's look, just pure golden.
Yeah, that was gold.
yes lol
Lmao
I love how Shelby shoves the guy, and the dude next to him, without ever actually questioning or processing what's happening, IMMEDIATELY throws something at the guy.
PRE-ORDER IS HERESY: THE ACT OF WORSHIPING THE RUINOUS POWERS OF CHAOS BY AIDING CORPORATIONS ATTEMPTING TO SUBVERT THE RULES OF THE IMPERIUM OF GAMERS
Thank you brother I nearly fell for temptation
Kinda fitting actually to have gamers as the Imperium. It's pretty much evil versus less evil
Instruction cant process. Pre ordered ultra edition.
Instructions unclear. Pre ordered collectors edition.
I did the gold edition 5 minutes ago
Love 40k. Take... my... money.
@@russrandolph Even in debt, I still serve.
@@Kriegsman17 😆
Paid DLC will be cosmetic only.
Well to be fair I remember when cosmetics were free all around. Do challenges to unlock a skin, beat the game on a harder difficulty to get a skin, etc. Get your budgets under control and you wouldn't feel the need to charge a quarter of the games price on cosmetics.
Luckily the goal isn't to sell DLC so they won't make the free skins boring... oh.
The problem isn't the budgets, it's the shareholders demanding they make more money with the threat of lawsuits or replacing those in charge.
somehow games can get inflationed
which is non consumable
@@VerladTwell it's the law, they must incrase value of stock year by year or face potential in some cases even legal consequences.
We pirates have always all dlc free
NO FUCKING PRE-ORDERS!
why? i can just cancel the pre order before launch, or refund the game post launch? if you're pre ordering a game on steam, uplay, or origin you have options to cancel the pre order or refund the game post launch. literally zero difference in the ability to refund a purchase for someone who pre ordered and someone who bought a game on launch day.
@@bomjus1706 Or better yet just don't FUCKING PRE-ORDER. Wait for the game to release widely then go buy it
@@justyournormalaverageguy9750 Or even better yet, stop trying to be a fucking DICTATOR over how someone spends THEIR money
Instructions unclear: Pre-ordered 3 ultimate editions
Or what? 😂, you gonna throw a tantrum for me spendin my OWN money in wichever I please.
"I actually might play this!"
Morgan Freeman: "He, in fact, never played it..."
also Morgan Freeman: I'm getting too old for this shizz!
I regret not pre ordering this game.
“REMEMBER, NO PREORDERS”
- Makarov
But of course
I’m hype for this, but I will hold the line with my battle-brothers, no pre orders!
To pre order is heresy! Keep your faith strong commisar!
same here
I would calm down with the hype if I were you. Don't fortget: the lead writer is a far-left Kotaku "journalist".
@@themrlace for that there were surprisingly many demons (white males) in that trailer. Also there was not a black girl on a wheelchair in her space-marine armor
@@themrlaceshe was actually fired from the studio during the pre-production of this game so I doubt she has much to do with it
The Editor is the Alpha and the Omega.
I am Alpharius.
@@TheFlibidy homie that was brilliant. I hope others get it lmao
@@TheFlibidy resurrected Roboute Gulliman, regent of the Imperium: "No, *I* am Alpharius."
BLASPHEMY !!!
@@TheFlibidy No, everyone is Alpharius
the only game I'll pre order and support the developers for making such a BANGER game
"remember, no pre orders."
why? i can just cancel the pre order before launch, or refund the game post launch? if you're pre ordering a game on steam, uplay, or origin you have options to cancel the pre order or refund the game post launch. literally zero difference in the ability to refund a purchase for someone who pre ordered and someone who bought a game on launch day.
Devs, investors, shareholders, etc. they all look at the numbers, that's why. @@bomjus1706
Reminder to everyone that Ashley Cooper is a writer for this game
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Who ?
who?
@@lipmajesty383 bad
Relative of Sheldon Cooper
The Peaky Blinders bit is awesome lmao, bless the editor.
Amons is a moron. His editor is the only thing that keeps his channel relavent.
Perfect fit to the thematic.
The full game got leaked and people are saying it’s good. I’d say it’s safe to pre order.
Someone throw something at this guy.
Even if the game is good, you shouldnt teach devs you'll eat a mark up in price just for three days early and cosmetics slop
@@antoinep.2565ppl can do wirh THEYR money what they like. I pre ordered it too so what ?, my money, my Problem. Worry about your own shit. You don't wann pre order ?. Thats fine your choice, but don't go tellin ppl what they should or shouldnt do.
@@antoinep.2565That’s not teaching them anything. More people per-order now than ever before.
@@antoinep.2565 just get the regular edition?
Remember guys, that GW has been infiltrated by Genestealers
More likely by Slanesh. They dont try to hide it anyway
And the rest worship Slaanesh.
The eldar have affected them with their depravity and heracy
TH-cam is actively supressing your commentz welcome to being shadow banned
I remember Kalistradi had to F around and find out before warning us of these parasites
Don't forget that Ashley Cooper had a senior writer's position on this game.
She got fired during the early pre production phase so she likely wasn’t able to blight this holy IP
She left the company nearly 5 years ago
Almost three years ago. Most games don't even start the script edits till nearly the last minute
@@muppet4227is that true, is there a light in this darkness?
Can confirm she got fired 5 years ago, I think it's 6 years ago soon. Brb, fact checking myself
Results: They're still using her main story so I stopped caring
After the shit GW pulled and the writer they have for the game, I am gonna pass.
Only sane person here.
Judge the art, not the artist. Having had a woke person on the team does not matter a single bit if the game is still good.
@@Zakading Yeah, having woke writers is historically a positive in the video game space huh?
@Zakading literally not been working for modern media but keep thinking that.
@@locmari Because theres a correlation between woke writers and gameplay
No brother. By the will of the emperor this game shall be worthy of pre purchase. No heresy
The fact this is all gameplay is what gives me hope.
Shelby yelling "no pre-orders" is beautiful.
It's the poetry I never knew I needed! 🤣
who is "Shelby "?
Asmon: Maybe I should play this.
[3 weeks later]
Asmon: Oh I forgor...
3 weeks? More like 3 yrs lol
Omg the final scene was so funny i watched it 3 times. Nice job editor!
After hearing about the lead writer and how games workshop is ill wait for the reviews.
Do not buy until the costodies are fixed
@@NameIsDoclol that ship has sailed
@@NameIsDoc you don't even know how to spell custodes, so I highly doubt you actually care
@@bluwlvrine I’m typing on a phone so autocorrect is a thing. B I obviously care more about it than a colonizer like you. If you want nerd cred I've got a few kill teams and a Necron army so
@@bluwlvrine a autocorrect fucks with me b I have 3 kill teams and a Necron army of zahndrekh so tell me you colonizer how much you care when you have zero investment or interest in the world.
the "fucking dragon" is a helldrake, its like a giant mechanical chaos wyvern
Still a Mechanical Dragon tho.
@@nakano15sort of.
So? Still a dragon, weird to nitpick the dragon type.
"Demon Engine"
Technically you could still say it's WH40k's version of a dragon.
ACKSHULLYY *pushes bridge of glasses towards glabela*
Pre ordering made sense when you were trying to get a day 1 copy of Halo 2 from EB, now everything is digital and there are no supply limitations I don't know why people do it anymore, especially since big releases are now known for day 1 jank.
tiktok
Sheeple. Too many programmed to follow “the rules” and take every piece of bait tossed their way like starving fish.
I used to enjoy seeing all the physical memorabilia a preorder used to get you. Now with digital? They're grifting people and said people are happy to open wide and gobble it up. 🤦♂️
warhammer games are not big releases, but also warhammer games are plagued with issues regardless, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE, most of which never get fixed, theyre all cursed and i hate it when all you normies come in and are dumbfounded by it
Hah, theres this trend of buyinf the last copy of gta6 on launch day..
Instructions unclear, bought the Gold Edition. For the Emperor
AND THEY SHALL KNOW NO PRE-ORDER!!
It looks like 40k but we'll never know what traps there are within.
Slaneesh love traps mate I'm just saying.
For the love of everything holy and sacred to all and I meant ALL/EVERYONE stop pre-ordering games. Please. Fucking Please.
Stop preordering games, _and don't buy this game in particular, at all_ . Written by Ashley Cooper, licensed by the company that brought you female custodes and transgender space marines. How about 'no?'
No
First, she got fired in pre-production. Second, game has nothing to do with custodes(Not to mention the codex writing team for games workshop has absolutely nothing to do with the production of space marine 2) and third, "Trans space marines" are not a thing.
@@StupidAnon-gn8ih honestly i donnt care. The game looks great. As long as its fun i just dont care
@@helmaksi True but i wouldn't be surprised if they add in last minute some bs abcd community nonsense. God please let them not destroy this promising game.
That last bit about no pre-orders had me rolling when you walked in. 😂
There needs to be a thing where if you make your game pre-orderable, then you need to make a demo as well.
I believe there is going to be a beta test at least. I’ve signed up.
Link, please
@@robp5141how the fuck can you sign up and then say you believe? Is there a beta test or not?
@@SK-zl6slcome back and approach this as a gentleman and not a 13 year old boy and I may entertain you. 👍🏼
@@SK-zl6sl To answer your question, yes there will be a beta. Honestly baffles me that people like OP post comments like this without doing their research.
"No Microtransactions"
"We are lying"
GW: (out loud) No mtx!
also GW: (whispers) Day 1.
They said there will be micro transactions but only cosmetics but they are still accessible if you play the game just like helldivers
Wasn't it Total Biscuit, RIP, who said something like if you pre-order the game you're "paying the most for the worst version" of it? But so many won't learn.
Yes, pre-order incentivizes company to do more minimal viable product aka. barely working game and promise to fix it later with patch year later. I'm broke the rule one time for Cyberpunk, totally believed in that CDPR will never fk it up. It's turn out no corp is safe from the corruption
If the fucking colors in the customization menu are locked on a pay wall i will fucking go back to Armored Core 6
They obviously think people who pay 30 to 40 dollars more to play 3 days earlier are stupid. And they are right.
The only smart thing to do with this shit is to not play it at all tbh
I've been waiting for this game for too long. I'm going to pay extra for a special helmet and I don't care 😂
@@trashbandit4526 for.. a special helmet..? that's dumb
I heard someone, Mutahar iirc, recently say you're not actually paying for 2-3 days EARLY ACCESS. They're getting you to pay to access it ON TIME.
@@trashbandit4526you aint very bright.. you def their target
you clearly not aware of the controversy going on with GW. but you shouldnt buy anything from them till they apologize to the fanbase
Don't hold out hope for that. If it's not woke, buy it. We'll find out more in time.
Worst thing is that in some previous books, I think one of the Horus Heresy series ones, in a flashback scene, Horus, freshly appointed Warmaster, secretly comes to Earth to consult Malcador on what he should do and how he should play on this Warmaster thing. At some point Malcador mentions that he had advised papa Emps to create female Primarchs too but his idea got rejected.
Do you understand that some people will actually quote this as "already established lore"?
The setting is doomed.
As Sony’s proven, an apology means exactly jack and shit these days. They need to put rubber to the road and reverse some really anti-consumer business decisions before I’ll tolerate their nonsense again.
Which they’ll never do.
@@OneBiasedOpinion depends on how much money they lose
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis that feels more like a dune reference, because there wasnt an ecclesiarchy yet
1:45 For those curious, that's a thing in the Chaos factions of 40k called a Heldrake. Lore changes from time to time slightly, but it's basically a fighter jet/spaceship that was mutated into a dragon.
Alongside it's pilot becoming one with the machine.
I feel like everyone forgot what the senior writer for this game said
What did the senior writer say?
@@cjmunnee3356 sounds like this guy forgot as well
I did too what he say
@@cjmunnee3356 "Let’s not cast cis white men in stuff for a year and see what happens.
Just for fun."
Have we talked about the writer for this game already?
Oh yeah, I forgot… 😅
The writer got fired a while back, during pre-production I believe
Yes, and too many people here are willing to just ignore it because brand name and entertainment addiction.
@@muppet4227 it's bad to hope that, but if you can't do the job then...
@@muppet4227 Do you have an article about that ?
No microtransactions, yeah, we've heard that before.
I'll play the shit out of this game but GW made it clear they don't want my money, so they won't get any.
-No micro transactions
-Paid cosmetic DLCs
🤔
like deep rock, you get most in game but if wanna support the devs there DLC you can buy for it
@@steelman6403 is paying a full AAA price not supporting the Devs
@@steelman6403 Yeah, I like this model (comparitively to other possible ones), but saying that you don't have micro transactions in your game when you offer DLCs that are anything but large non-cosmetic content additions (expansions) is strange. Singular cosmetic DLCs sound like of the examples of micro transations to me.
I guess in their mind (assuming they actually believe this) micro transactions are those transactions in which you pay for in-game currencies.
i am not a warhammer fan and i only know boltgun from the franchise
but when they say only cosmetic DLC they are saying that there will not be any kind of P2W like "skill points" , "XP boost" or "early broken character"
the grey zone is that they could implement some QoL in the DLC which solve a problem they purposely created in the first place
sadly, paying full AAA price and then paying other things is the standard nowadays since games selling don't have a very long longevity, they want to fill their pockets fast and move to the next project/sequel
@@Dimas_Lopes no, that's not really what micro transaction means nowadays, there isn't really any p2w stuff for most part, what they are describing as paid dlc is standard micro transaction, they are just trying to act like they are any better then the rest
welp, its september and the game is epic, full release is tomorrow and honestly no issue with pre ordering
(havent played it tho im broke)
In the immortal words of John Bain, Totalbiscuit.
No pre-orders!
With GWs history Definitely do not pre-order wait till the reviews are out.
Yeah, given the direction Games Workshop's been taking recently, definitely no preorders. Wait for a review. This might be the last hurrah for warhammer. We'll see.
Its DEFINITELY the last hurrah, no one remembers old lore about space marines looking like their genefather, so having a scottish ultramarine, an african ultramarine, and an asian ultramarine all in the same room really throws me off. I guess guilliman is just a very mixed primarch lmfao
@@stronensycharte64 it seems at least a little plausible a space wolf, a white scar and a salamander could be operating together.
@@stronensycharte64 "space marines looking like their genefather", that's literaly only true for a few legions like Blood Angels or Raven Guard that have a gene flaw that causes their marines to look like their genefather as time pass. Ultramarine geneseed doesn't have that flaw.
@@stronensycharte64 Ultramar literally harbours over 500 worlds, is one place where people DEF go to live for a better chance at life, and it, like Rome, is a melting pot of different ethnicities.
The Blood Angels, one of the few where this is true, can get any fucking person, literally the most deformed son of a bitch alive, and if he lives past the trials? He's given a geneseed and becomes as handsome as Sanguinius.
And everyone accepts that is not normal in lore.
The Salamanders' geneseed causes the initiate's skin and eyes to mutate into charcoal-black and red-blazing respectively. No matter the race or skin color.
And if you mean 1st edition, surprise surprise, we had Fem Space Marines back then, as well as ritualistic Shit-Eating gatherings.
40K has no care for race, sexual preference, skin color or anything. Only that you can hold a weapon and die for the Emperor. So get it straight, you fucking tourist.
@@stronensycharte64 there’s like a million examples in the lore of marines being different races than their primarch, I was confused about that for a long time too.
Few things you all need to do before playing this game, if not done already.
1. read up on the lore of Space Marines, and the Ultramarine Chapter for SM
2. read up on Orkz, Chaos Space Marine, ans Tyranids
3. Play the first game, Space Marine 1
4. Play Helldivers 2 on Helldive difficulty SOLO against the Terminids
5. Now you are ready for the Grim Dark Future, where there is only war, and play Space Marine 2. You are Captain Titus, a distinguished Ultramarine, leading his squad against the Great Devourer and the neverending Tyranids Swarm.
1:45 thats actually a Heldrake, a demon bound inside a damn jetplane xD
they are so much worse then that but yes, honestly don't know how the fuck they expect us to fight one of those, its basically an ancient dragon from Elden ring ON CRACK lol.
@@wither5673No hesitating, marine. For the Emperor!
@@wither5673not even in the power scaling sense.
*How are we gonna punch something in the sky!?*
So we're gonna fight Nids and Demons? Would be dope to see them fight against each other, especially if the Nids fighting the demons had the coloration of Hive Fleet Kronos
@@GabrielWard-yu6skyour bolter brother
Never pre order games and it's always sus when the company let's you pre-order from so far out of release.
Remember, No fxxking preorders.
Option 1: Pre-order for 3 extra days of unplayable bugs.
Option 2: Wait 2 months for them to do the bait and switch then get a pirate if it's worth it.
Dude cmon, don't stoop as low as pirating it, it seems they really did put some love into this game and it looks fricking epic. But ya, modern games tend to have a lot of bugs at launch
Wait 2 months is the right move, pirating is a horrible move. If the game is worth your time, it's worth your money. If you want more games like this, tell them with your money. Otherwise we'll keep getting garbage filled with microtransactions.
From the looks of it, the one with auspex is Captain Sevastus Acheran, current 2nd Company Captain
All that's missing is the option to use older armor designs not just the Primaris gear.
i can't wait for the transgender Space Marines eventually added into the game. It will be so POG
How about no
Time to purge with the heavy Flamer.
AlesMicik
Ever heard of Emperor's Children?
And they'll be elevated to untouchable authority who can't be challenged for... reasons.
>Doesn't know what a Helldrake is
DROPPED
Didnt he talk about the Ashley cooper drama last month and now suddenly he changed his mind
Seems like every single person in the chat forgot. This game is going to be more trans trash.
I expected the Peaky blinders clip but I didn't expect him saying preorders lmao
Why did expect the Peaky Blinders clip? Does the it make sense in context without Tommy saying "preorders"?
@@possummagic3571 expected it because of the tittle
Fuck that, I'm preordering this.
Checks all my boxes:
- SP/Coop Campaign
- Coop PvE mode
- PvP mode
- Tons of customization and progression
Yes, exactly same. Game looks fire already.
And YOU'RE DONE. How many times before these people learn their lesson?
Perks of being an adult with disposable income.
Pre orderng made sense years ago when games where released only in physical medium and you wanted to lock down a copy on release day now its pointless
Agreed. Especially when they came with cool artwork/collectables/maps etc
After I saw how they change the lore i Will not buy any Warhammer games, i was enen hyped months ago
changed the lore? like they've done countless times already? if you're upset about one retcon you have to be upset about all retcons... choosing when to be upset about retcons is massively stupid. go look up the lore and how it's changed over the years and you'd be surprised what you'll find.
@@ecMonify Is the deep lore where you find the female Custodes and the trans space marines specified or are you just shilling for the alphabet mafia?
Loll bye
I'm going to play it, but I'm not buying it.
Suit yourself. The reaction to that was incredibly exaggerated.
I've been fan of this universe for 15 years .No pre orders .
The moment Asmon said "Is that a f****** dragon?!" I knew he knows nothing about Warhammer or Tyranids 😂
that was a Heldrake from the chaos faction, not tyranids, closer to a dragon than tyranids actually ;)
@@maellemoine-s5727 I didn't even notice it was a Heldrake. I am painting one right now for my tabletop collection! But yeah best way to describe a Heldrake would be, Yeah Dragon 😂
@@psycho_hunterz7316 pheeeew, good luck man that's one big piece to get done !
You heard the editor, no pre-orders, but seriously this game looks like what Gears of War should have been
While i agree, gears was meant to be a bit more sci fi military/tactical? Warhammer has grown into fantastical sci fi. A handful of space marines could wage a never ending war for an entire planet, and it would just be tuesday.
Oh no, the original 40k Space Marine game had ads that outright mocked Gears of War by claiming "Cover is for P***ies."
@@vissermatt1058 Yeah Gears of War was designed as a cover based shooter, definitely meant to be more "tactical".
@@vissermatt1058 I'll bring the classic arguement that 40k isn't sci-fi, it's science-fantasy.
It's orks, and elves and dwarves and magic but in space.
@@vissermatt1058 Handfull would depend on the planet, but realistically a full Company could easily do that.
>No micro transactions
>Paid cosmetic dlc day 1
So... Which one is it?
Pretty sure they just mean nothing in-game. The only thing will be cosmetic packs outside of the game.
Think DRG
NO PRE-ORDERS!
"What's preorders, Precious?" 🤔
I can smell his room from here.
Now, not uploading that no preorders template vid is a crime
You guys forgot warhammer writers that work on this game went madly woke over twitter?
True
Quit two years ago
In the Editor we trust
I've been burned so many times, but going back to DLC is a beautiful thing, I despise cash shops.
Has paid cosmetic dlc but that doesn't count as a microtransaction? Guess definitions are changing.
I’m gonna guess it’s like how it used to be back in the day with cod gunskins there was a bunch of free ones that you earned, but you could buy a few like in bo2
"All paid DLC cosmetics only". Is this supposed to be a good thing? Customization is part of the game, it should be included in the price. I never understood how "it's just cosmetics" is a valid excuse for a DLC.
In a 60$ game.
Never preorder like you never clean ya room
AN OPEN MIND IS LIKE A FORTRESS WITH ITS GATES UNBARRED AND UNGUARDED.
Same goes for buying on premiere. No fuckin' being beta-tester too.
Yep. If you're not gonna release a complete game, I'm not beta testing it for you at full price.