I always took the ending with him turning up in the photograph to mean that he’s just been added to the hotels collection of victims, and that every time the hotel takes someone they end up in one of the photos because now it’s as if “they’ve always been there”
The Overlook Hotel took his soul. Every horrible thing that happened feeds the hotel. Jack is a new victim of the hotel. Grady died there and his soul is part of the hotel too. It's alive, it's cursed. Danny has the Shining, and the old guy had it too. The Shining is not linked to the hotel, it's like a third eye that makes the kid see the supernatural, and the hotel is supernatural, a living entity. In the book Jack's past is more fleshed out. And the hotel is creepier.
To me, the Overlook Hotel seemed like a fly trap, who consumed the ones they trapped until they became a part of it. Jack was consumed, so now he's there as if he's always been there, because the Hotel is a world of its own, filled with everyone who died there.
Oooo, that's interesting to think about the hotel consuming him and folding him into its self - like they keep adding guests to its history. I think he's in a continuous loop - almost a reincarnation, if that makes sense.
I also feel like Jack wasn't a random target - he's someone that can be pushed over the edge relatively easily. I think that's why the Overlook goes after Jack, and not Wendy. It knows it can corrupt him - I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Grady was the same way. Jack drinking alcohol at the bar seems like a break in continuity, after all, why is there any for him to drink? *But* one could interpret it as the hotel giving him that same push/effect that alcohol does, and Jack himself is rationalising that effect by imagining himself drinking alcohol - it's just a theory, and maybe Kubrick had an entirely different idea, but I think it's interesting. It's almost like the hotel feeds off of humans' capability of hurting each other, it takes our weaknesses and uses them against us, like it enjoys driving humans to hurt each other. It having been built on a burial ground already establishes it as something born from disrespect and apathy, and then of course, there's that link to death that's also hinted at by the Dies Irae playing at the start. All in all, I think the idea of the Overlook being in some way alive and ill-intentioned is one that many people take away from the movie. The whole premise is just fascinating.
And very frequently inventing meanings based on small continuity errors and other such things that happen in all movies...I never really understood why people picked this particular film to impose so many ridiculous theories upon. Its pretty clearly about alcoholism and domestic abuse, so some nut decides to ignore all that in favor of a crackpot theory about how Kubrick faked the moon landing footage.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks The main reason is that this particular film does legitimately have some very deliberate "mistakes" that were actually made to subconsciously make you feel uneasy. Most of them relating to the layout of the hotel. Bare in mind, every location in the film was built from scratch. So everything you see was put there for a reason. There are hotel room doors that couldn't possibly lead anywhere. One of them is literally 90° from an open fire exit. You couldn't make that error by mistake. Another is the window in the manager's office, which can't exist because there's actually a corridor there. Again, that literally could not have been done by mistake. But you're not wrong. People do take it way, way too far and believe that Kubrick was incapable of making a mistake. They always say that he was so obsessed over detail, but they don't actually understand what that means. They think it's about continuity errors, like he always fixed them but that's not true. In Fact, his daughter told a story where someone pointed out a continuity error and he basically said nobody will notice. Because he had more important things to consider and it wasn't a huge issue. His attention to detail was usually relating to getting the absolute best possible shots and performances. Then you get the extremists who claim he "faked the moon landing" and was admitting it in The Shining, despite no evidence. Those people are Just attention seekers.
@@Corn_Pone_FlicksKubrick is never that straight forward. There’s never a “clearly” this or that. Continuities errors could easily be attributed to Kubrick’s vision, and honestly more likely so
One thing that I noticed on rewatching the film is that during the scene where Wendy hits Jack with the baseball bat, he talks about how much responsibility he has to look after the hotel....but in every previous scene there is NOT ONE where he actually does any work at the hotel, in fact we even see Wendy doing more work because earlier before she woke Jack up from his nightmare, she was checking the boilers and making logs. He does nothing except play with his ball, refuse to write anything, and get angry at everyone else
Jack is becoming the caretaker. His speech in this scene details everything that the caretaker would be focused on-- he doesn’t say a word about his writing. It’s no longer of any importance to him.
One departure from the book, was that Mr. Halloran didn't die in the book and after they escaped, Wendy and Danny went to/with him in Florida to be safe and mentally recover, etc.
For me, the hotel is like the house in Hill House. It is alive, and it feds on people, and then it creates for the ghosts a parallel reality to keep them in the loop, to keep feeding on them and to help capture new victims. Thats why the old carteker did not remember who he once was. They wanted Jack to kill Danny badly to have his shinning, because is really powerful (so a great meal). That's why from the beginning the hotel was after him, besides his father, while the mom only really saw the ghosts by the end.
The shinning is a movie that can be interpreted in many ways. What I got from it is that history repeats itself. continuing cycle of horror, insanity, rage. On the surface it's unseen, but it's always around.
Fun fact: The staircase scene when shes holding the bat, she had to do that scene over 230 times until the director was happy with her reaction. Fear, mentally broken and exhausted.
Yeah, it's widely known that Kubrick mentally terrorized Shelley Duval throughout this whole movie. There are documentaries on the subject, it's actually quite disturbing to hear. He truly was a vile piece of garbage.
@@whitenoisereacts Yep, Stanley Kubrick, the director really gave Shelly Duvall a hard time during shooting. She was a mess. There are several behind the scenes clips from the shooting set where he is just laying into her. 😳
He was not a vile piece of garbage. There aren’t “documentaries” about that. There is a making of video shot by Kubrick’s own daughter that shows some of the games Kubrick played with Shelley Duval on the set, which were cruel, but at the end there is an interview with Duval who talks about highly valuing her experience on the set, although she found it trying as well. Shelley Duval was so brilliantly cast because truly she is such a sensitive and delicate soul, but the repercussions of her sensitivity in her life have led to mental illness. I don’t think it was a direct result of the experience of making the Shining, as she went on to act in other films and produced a brilliant children’s tv series. Folks latch on to these stories of her being cruelly treated on the set and connect that with her mental breakdown MUCH later in life because it is a more easily digested story. No doubt he was a bastard to her on the set, but you could also say she was a pain in the ass, based on the daughter’s documentary. Why not hav
@@theshadowfax239 And yet that "vile piece of garbage" filmed the movie in such a way that the kid playing Danny never knew he was acting in a horror movie in order to protect the kid psychologically.
In the book, the hotel wanted Danny’s powers for itself, but he didn’t go insane, and so they settled for his dad, even though his powers were weaker because if he killed Danny, the hotel would absorb his soul.
The Shining is one of my favorite films to geek out over. There are literally countless things to discuss and analyze. The book is scary too, but for different reasons. The book paints Jack Torrance as being much more of a family man, actively trying to not "fall off the wagon," so to speak, and it's much more clear that he genuinely loves Wendy and Danny; this makes his descent into madness all the more heartbreaking. I love the scene with Delbert Grady and Jack Torrance in the bathroom. Now in filmmaking, there's a rule commonly known as the 180-degree rule. This says that there's a general imaginary 180-degree arc, whose ends are connected by the "line of action," which in this case is the horizontal line formed between Delbert and Jack. The rule also says the camera must remain within that arc, so in simple terms, character A should always be on the left side of the frame, and character B on the right side. In this bathroom scene, Kubrick breaks that rule, which I interpret to mean that the film is foreshadowing, as well as giving credence to the idea, that the hotel is stealing Jack's soul and beginning to make him one with the hotel. Finally, random tidbit: The iconic "Here's Johnny" line, while possibly being a strange nod to The Johnny Carson Show (that was how the voice announcer would introduce him), makes a little more sense contextually upon reading the book, where it's mentioned a couple of times that Jack's full name is Johnathan.
Misery is one the best horror thrillers of all time, also based on a Stephen King novel and Kathy Bates won the best actress oscar for her performance in it - which is so rare for a horror type movie. Please react guys, you'll love it!
@@whitenoisereacts yeah you guys just cause someone isn’t 20 doesn’t mean they are old. I laugh cause you guys won’t be young forever. Just wait hahahahaha
In the book, Jack is actually a much more sympathetic character that in this movies. Kubrick's version was a much less dimensional, just a cardboard cutout of the bad. But you should watch Dr. Sleep which fills things out, which were left out ( Yes, it is a sequel.). King famously hated Kubrick's version, and was never going to let Dr. Sleep be made, but the scriptwriter took the script to him to read. King approved it, because he felt like that script redeemed Kubrick's movie in his eyes. You made me laugh when you were talking about how Danny was just running around without mom and dad. This movie was in the early 80s, and it wasn't at all unusual for kids Danny's age to be running around with no adult supervision. When we were kids, our parents would drop kick us out the front door and not expect us back until sunset if it wasn't a school day or it was summer vacation.
stephen king has ALWAYS been very critical of nearly every film of his books though. he dislikes or hates practically all of them but that doesn't mean he is agaisnt them being made...because he recognises that some people appreciate stories more visually. in a way i like that about SK but in other ways he is also very critical. so long as he is ok with his books being made into films i don't really care what he thinks of them. i read the books and watch the films so....
Um no, it’s NOT a sequel. It’s someone else’s version of what they think the meaning of Kubrick’s film was. A true sequel of something comes from the same mind or artist. Dr. Sleep is at best a cheap imitation of a masterpiece. King disliked Kubrick’s version because it turned his novel on its head and did something completely different.
The cook guy said what happened in the past left a trace of itself in the hotel. I have always taken it as like the hotel keeps repeating history over and over again. The hotel kind of absorbed Jack. Whoever the caretaker is feels as if they have always been part of the hotel and they are destined to chop up their family. It's definitely a more artistic/abstract film. I love it.
The part in the Gold Room where you asked "where did they film this?", it was actually filmed in an enormous studio in Elstree, England (as was the rest of the film, apart from the aerial shot). The Gold room actually burned down just before they finished filming and they had to rebuild the whole thing just for a few more days of filming!
You guys should buy the Blu Ray Doctor Sleep. It has a directors cut and Original version and it explains alot about what happened in The Shining and stars Ewan McGregor
Just love the reactions when you guys hear that the Overlook Hotel was built on an Indian burial ground. A perfect combination of "Nooooo!" and "Well, you're fucked."
I still love this, despite having watched the original screening, and countless times at home. To me, it’s pure Kubrick, with the source novel being secondary. I think the lighting (and of course camera work) and the soundtrack come close to being characters. Some others have probably mentioned it, but the Steadicam was invented for this film.
One of my top 10 favorite films of all time. I first saw it when I was thirteen and just couldn't take my eyes off it. By the way, the whole interior of the Overlook is a set, based on the interiors of various actual hotels. The film took so long to shoot, they couldn't have closed a real hotel down for the duration. Also, it was in the middle of summer, so you're seeing tons of salt there, not snow. It actually started eating the soles off of people's shoes after a while. The Steadicam had just been invented at the time this was made, and was operated by the same guy who built it, hence the dynamic camerawork. Stephen King described the Overlook as simply being "The bad place," a sort of subset of classic horror. Hill House would fall in that same genre.
I doubt Kubrick would have wanted to use an actual hotel even if h could have. His cinematic choices I think were so specific that he needed to create the set from scratch with p the “labyrinthine” hallways etc. (He most definitely based the interior design, elevators and Colorado lounge on the Awanhee hotel in CA). The outer set obviously was based on the actual Timberline hotel seen at the beginning. The drive sequences were from a completely different road unassociated with the Timberline. Who would’ve known lol.
I was born in 1971 and I remember parents weren’t as overly protective as parents are today, I can remember walking to friends houses by myself when I was 5 or 6 and when my older brothers would be playing hockey me and the other kids my age would run around the arenas by ourselves while the parents watched the game. It was until the 80’s when there were a bunch of child abductions in the news that parents started keeping a closer eye on their kids, I see 5 or 6 year olds now and can’t imagine them going somewhere on their own. The cook told Danny that when something bad happens in a place that it leaves a stain on the place, a lot of people die in hotels so all those deaths left a mark there and the cook and Danny had a sensitivity that allowed them to see the ghosts and since Danny had it I’m sure that his parents probably had it too but it wasn’t as strong.
I really love this story, but the book is jus superior in everything specially on jack. On the movie he felt just like a bad person and a villan. In the book we go deep in his relationship whith danny and his past, showing us he really loves his family and when he finds out the hotel is the one controlling him we have such great interaction, also the ending is way different
Since you've enjoyed Midsommar you might like the fact that the directors of Midsommar based the opening shot of the Shining on that cool road scene you see in Midsommar
You mention the great cinematography, that is what Stanley Kubrick does best. I think this was his only horror movie, but all of his movies have the most amazing cinematography you will ever see. Some of the most memorable scenes in movie history are from Kubrick movies. I highly recommend all of his movies for that alone, but over and above that most are great movies in their own right.
I’m so excited for you to see Doctor Sleep, it was so good and I appreciated it very much as a sequel. I think you guys will really like it! And thank you for all the wonderful content you guys produce! You’ve quickly become one of my all time favorite channels to watch ;)
The miniseries written by King himself is actually a lot closer to the book. It also shows us who "Tony" really is, just like in the book. Aside from that I always loved this version but enjoyed watching the other one as well.
My favorite movie ever. It’s a big deal that you guys are getting to experience any Kubrick for the first time on the channel 🙌 Everything he did is a must watch
Just to let you guys know, “Shining” itself is a common theme that happens in multiple Stephen King stories. While this book/film were given the title of Shining, other characters of his had the ability to shine. If you’ve seen The Green Mile, you’re familiar with another character with the it.
"Here`s Johnny" was a double meaning. The original Late Show with Johnny Carson always opened with the host being introduced with that phrase said the exact way Jack Nicholson says it albeit less maniacally-toned obviously!It also alludes to both "Jack" and "Johnny" being slangy shortforms of Johnathan.
So the way I saw it was that...The hotel claimed Jack's soul at the end hence why he was in the picture at the end. The Hotel had a lot of shit that happened there. Such a great movie. I love how perplexed you guys were at the end....Just Priceless! Also...the old man's Shining was outdated because it didn't show him that he was about to be axed in the heart. I mean...he went all that way to get chopped in the heart. ..Awesome powers!!!
In the book the Tony character is a version of Danny from the future. A older version of Danny trying to get his younger self to survive the hotel. He is called Tony because Anthony his Danny’s middle name. Kubrick felt that wouldn’t work in the movie and got rid of it.
nicholson has made many many classic films that are generally considered the gold standard in acting... definately someone you seek more films in... one in particular of course is A FEW GOOD MEN... one of the most famous monologues in movie history. absolute must watch cinema...
The Overlook Hotel is a real place in Oregon on Mount Hood called the Timberline Lodge. Though the exterior of the hotel was used in The Shining, the interior shots were filmed in Elstree Studios in England where the the inside of the hotel was actually built.
There was a phrase in the movie, previous caretaker sad it to Jack, you were always the caretaker. And Jack said that it was like he was there before, and he is on the old photo. That’s because he was always the caretaker, that’s the idea
The original Pet Sematary is more faithful to the book, and Stephen King has a cameo role in it as well. I recommend watching that first before the remake.
The new one I didn’t like but the original is so much better and you really connect with the characters I didn’t get that from the remake. I’d definitely watch the original one and even Pet Cemetery 2 before the remake.
The books are great but they do stuff up a lot of his books when filming them I don't know but it irks me when they change something from the book in the film
This movie was first released 42 years ago in theaters. But the very first time I saw this movie is when it was on TV. And I really like watching this movie with you the both of you guys. And I really enjoy watching movies with you guys.
There are people who write college papers about this movie and there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of video video dissecting this movie. All I'm saying is that there are lots of theories and it would take a long time for you to probably partially understand this movie.
In answer to your question of "where did they film this?", EVERY interior scene that took place in the hotel -- the hallways, the grand lobby, the kitchen, their living quarters, the grand staircase -- all of it were massive sets built in multiple soundstages at Pinewood Studios outside London. The exterior shots of the hotel and the hedge maze were also on the property of Pinewood. Kubrick had everything built so he could have complete control and also to allow him to create impossible architectural nuances to intentionally disorient the viewer. For example, in the opening scene where Jack enters the lobby for the interview and the camera follows him through a doorway and then into the Ullman's office we see a window behind Ullman that looks outside, which is impossible because the office isn't located anywhere near any external walls.
This is book is based on Stephen King’s stay at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park Colorado. It’s really haunted. My husband and I stayed there years ago. Nothing happened that night but we took a tour and weird things happened on the tour. It’s a super creepy movie and I thought all the actors were great. I would get so nervous when Danny would ride his bike around the hallways. Creeped me out. Good reaction
Now you've seen this you should watch The Wendy Theory! It completely explains this movie in a way that turns it fully on its head and will make you question everything. Mind blowing!
To me, The Shining is about the hotel especially-in the movie, Hallorann says that some people *and places* have the shining, which certainly seems to be the case for this hotel. However, apparently it is more actively sinister than that, especially since the door seems to become unlocked and the place interacts with its residents with a goal in mind. I attribute it to the old “buried on an Indian Graveyard” trope. It was founded in evil (the founders disrespected the locals, even fought them off, by building on their burial grounds obviously).
I remember thinking some color schemes were weird, and then I noticed there were variations on red, white, and blue in a lot of scenes. Jack ranting about doing his duty and work makes no sense since Wendy seems to be doing everything, but IMO the hotel amplifies these beliefs of the white patriarch-that it’s his job to discipline and lead his family, and his wife and child could never understand. Then it uses him as an instrument to murder everyone and keep even more souls there. The book seems to have many more details, and Steven King hated the ambiguity in this movie. It’s one of the reasons I like Kubrick and dislike King lol. The ambiguity is what makes it so eerie, powerful, and intriguing.
14:50, this was all a matte shot right here, it's really impressive. They filmed this by a parking lot shot from a 10-11 story building. The matte artist had to paint the hedge maze.
They filmed this movie at the Stanley Hotel, and the real Hotel is where Stephen King wrote The Shinning book. Plus the Hotel is Haunted which adds that scary factor to it.
The creepy thing about the scene with the psychiatrist and Danny is that in the background you can see the children's book of a Tiger peeking out at them. When the shots change, the positioning of the book changes as if "Tony" is listening in and is hiding when he's brought up. Super creepy.
Cool. There’s a TON of things like this and also cartoon characters are used in various ways thematically. In the same scene, you see Goofy marionette hanging in the background and Wendy wearing the exact same color scheme costume (a female version obviously) the shoes are even the same color, pointing to her relative naïveté and ignorance at this point in the story. At the end she finally sees all the evil of the hotel herself.
@@whitenoisereacts If it was 3 hours long it was the directors cut lol, don’t worry if it was the theatrical the biggest differences is scenes of dialogue just go on for longer for example in the directors cut the scene with Danny and Halloran on the bench in the opening is like 2 minutes longer. You don’t miss out on any plot but there is still more depth in the directors cut. Which the movie is directed by Mike Flanagan who did Haunting Of Hill House and Bly Manor so that’s cool
you guys should watch a video essay here on youtube called "the wendy theory". i've seen and read plenty of analysis of this movie over the years and that essay is the first one to make perfect sense. edit: and before anyone else can warn you, yes the narration is an irritating robot voice, but what it has to say is interesting enough to neutralize its annoyance.
It's really interesting watching your reactions. Listening to comments from younger people to vintage classic movies is such fun. You seem to have a more intellectual way of processing impressions from filmstories. The emotional expressions are less direct than seen in older generations, it's like there's a sort of distance between contemporary youth and the world they experience. Such a Treat. 🎃🤡👹👽
There are a lot of elements that add suspense ... the sound of Jack’s typewriter, at times the eerie silence, the sound of Danny’s little bike going from carpet to hardwood.
Jack Nicholson has 3 Oscar wins for • As Good As It Gets • One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest • Terms of Endearment He's one of the best actors and this is UNFORGETTABLE.
Hallorann explained it to Danny. The hotel has had traces left behind by some of the crazy stuff that's happened there over the years. These traces are essentially ghosts, although that word isn't used by Hallorann. If you have the shining power, you'll see some of these traces. People without the shining don't see anything unusual, which is why the hotel can function without problems for the most part. Hallorann can see some of the stuff in the hotel but not everything because his power is not that strong. Danny's power IS that strong. The hotel confirms this when Grady tells Jack that his son has that talent. If you die there under the right circumstances you get absorbed by the hotel, then you're 'always' there. This is why Jack is in the photo and why Grady is still there. If Danny is killed there then the hotel absorbs his power too, this is the hotel's motivation for wanting Jack to kill him. Danny's shining is powering the hotel, which is why Jack and later Wendy can see the ghosts when they want to appear in front of them. The implication is that with Danny's power the hotel would be permanently active, everyone would be able to see the ghosts and basically that hotel would be the scariest haunted house ever. That's what I get out of it.
I think we were looking at the ghosts of Indians on which the hotel is built. Jack has one of the ghosts in him and has always been at the hotel, even before he arrived at the beginning of this movie.
10:00 In Re: Danny being left to wander on his own in the game room, or his being without a seatbelt in the car, etc -- ironically, these facets of the story are the absolutely most "normal" thing for parents to often do with their kids back in the late 70s and prior, lol...
The story that Jack was given was about Charles Grady (1970's) -- The ghost that Jack meets is Delbert Grady (1930's) -- The hotel claims souls and keeps them forever.
I recommend watching “The Wendy Theory”. A very interesting take on this movie. It has no bearing on the source material, just this movie as King himself said it was a diversion from his work. But gives a great alternative context that makes a lot of sense.
Not only that, but if The Wendy Theory is true, it places Kubrick on a level of genius that I can't even contemplate. I'm fairly convinced by the theory. After seeing that video I told a friend of mine, "I've always thought Kubrick was a great filmmaker, but this puts him at an incomprehensible height of genius."
I honestly like the differentiation from the novel to the movie because the novel was way more heartfelt and sympathetic. Whereas the movie just felt cold and bleak and mean-spirited, which is what King himself said, but that works because it is a horror movie and horror is at its best when it’s cruel in my personal opinion
I love this movie. I don't ever get tired of it. The performances and cinematography are just too stellar to be ignored. Tbh I read the novel after having seen the movie multiple times. I do agree, that storywise the novel is superior. It showcases Jack's character of an alcoholic husband/father/failed writer and the ensuing family dynamics much better and the resolution makes more sense too and is more suspenseful. But movie is just a different medium than a novel, and every movie will stray a bit from it's original novel source (if based on a novel that is). As a movie it is great, even if it may have drawbacks if compared to the book.
The fact Mr. Halloran died will forever piss me off NGL. That man did not travel cross country to save a little boy and his mum just to get axed in the chest, it's BS
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@@whitenoisereacts the conjuring reactions, I love those movie's but you guys sparked my love the franchise to a whole new level. Cheers. Have you seen baby driver?
I always took the ending with him turning up in the photograph to mean that he’s just been added to the hotels collection of victims, and that every time the hotel takes someone they end up in one of the photos because now it’s as if “they’ve always been there”
And the huge flood of blood is from every victim
The Overlook Hotel took his soul. Every horrible thing that happened feeds the hotel. Jack is a new victim of the hotel. Grady died there and his soul is part of the hotel too. It's alive, it's cursed. Danny has the Shining, and the old guy had it too. The Shining is not linked to the hotel, it's like a third eye that makes the kid see the supernatural, and the hotel is supernatural, a living entity. In the book Jack's past is more fleshed out. And the hotel is creepier.
Great analysis!
Perfectly said
Well said, indeed. But isn't the hotel still a working business in the summer months? Do the "creepies" take the season off?
worth mentioning though that 99%+ of people who stay or work at the hotel experience no supernatural events at all and nothing nasty happens to them.
But how it started all these bad things in hotel ??
To me, the Overlook Hotel seemed like a fly trap, who consumed the ones they trapped until they became a part of it. Jack was consumed, so now he's there as if he's always been there, because the Hotel is a world of its own, filled with everyone who died there.
It kind of is, it feeds of you and wanted danny to die cus of his shining would be a buffet and boost its power
worth mentioning though that 99%+ of people who stay or work at the hotel experience no supernatural events at all and nothing nasty happens to them.
@@redcardinalist Yes, it seemed to mostly happen at winter, when the caretaker was there alone.
Oooo, that's interesting to think about the hotel consuming him and folding him into its self - like they keep adding guests to its history. I think he's in a continuous loop - almost a reincarnation, if that makes sense.
I also feel like Jack wasn't a random target - he's someone that can be pushed over the edge relatively easily. I think that's why the Overlook goes after Jack, and not Wendy. It knows it can corrupt him - I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Grady was the same way.
Jack drinking alcohol at the bar seems like a break in continuity, after all, why is there any for him to drink? *But* one could interpret it as the hotel giving him that same push/effect that alcohol does, and Jack himself is rationalising that effect by imagining himself drinking alcohol - it's just a theory, and maybe Kubrick had an entirely different idea, but I think it's interesting.
It's almost like the hotel feeds off of humans' capability of hurting each other, it takes our weaknesses and uses them against us, like it enjoys driving humans to hurt each other. It having been built on a burial ground already establishes it as something born from disrespect and apathy, and then of course, there's that link to death that's also hinted at by the Dies Irae playing at the start. All in all, I think the idea of the Overlook being in some way alive and ill-intentioned is one that many people take away from the movie. The whole premise is just fascinating.
Forty years later, people are still analyzing and debating the hidden meanings and possibilities of this movie--what a classic.
And very frequently inventing meanings based on small continuity errors and other such things that happen in all movies...I never really understood why people picked this particular film to impose so many ridiculous theories upon. Its pretty clearly about alcoholism and domestic abuse, so some nut decides to ignore all that in favor of a crackpot theory about how Kubrick faked the moon landing footage.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I specifically avoided mentioning the "documentary" Room 237. Collative Learning here on TH-cam has some excellent videos.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks The main reason is that this particular film does legitimately have some very deliberate "mistakes" that were actually made to subconsciously make you feel uneasy. Most of them relating to the layout of the hotel. Bare in mind, every location in the film was built from scratch. So everything you see was put there for a reason.
There are hotel room doors that couldn't possibly lead anywhere. One of them is literally 90° from an open fire exit. You couldn't make that error by mistake.
Another is the window in the manager's office, which can't exist because there's actually a corridor there. Again, that literally could not have been done by mistake.
But you're not wrong. People do take it way, way too far and believe that Kubrick was incapable of making a mistake.
They always say that he was so obsessed over detail, but they don't actually understand what that means.
They think it's about continuity errors, like he always fixed them but that's not true.
In Fact, his daughter told a story where someone pointed out a continuity error and he basically said nobody will notice. Because he had more important things to consider and it wasn't a huge issue.
His attention to detail was usually relating to getting the absolute best possible shots and performances.
Then you get the extremists who claim he "faked the moon landing" and was admitting it in The Shining, despite no evidence.
Those people are Just attention seekers.
@@Corn_Pone_FlicksKubrick is never that straight forward. There’s never a “clearly” this or that. Continuities errors could easily be attributed to Kubrick’s vision, and honestly more likely so
One thing that I noticed on rewatching the film is that during the scene where Wendy hits Jack with the baseball bat, he talks about how much responsibility he has to look after the hotel....but in every previous scene there is NOT ONE where he actually does any work at the hotel, in fact we even see Wendy doing more work because earlier before she woke Jack up from his nightmare, she was checking the boilers and making logs.
He does nothing except play with his ball, refuse to write anything, and get angry at everyone else
Yeah
Jack is becoming the caretaker. His speech in this scene details everything that the caretaker would be focused on-- he doesn’t say a word about his writing. It’s no longer of any importance to him.
One departure from the book, was that Mr. Halloran didn't die in the book and after they escaped, Wendy and Danny went to/with him in Florida to be safe and mentally recover, etc.
omg but why killing him in the movie that's pretty dumb
@@justlive2809 I agree...I don't know except maybe to show how far gone Jack was...which in my opinion wasn't needed.
@@justlive2809 Also, I thought it was a very touching part of the story that they went to him and it helped Danny.
@@leeswhimsy maybe yeah
@@leeswhimsy i really need to buy the book
"he's just a million years younger!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For me, the hotel is like the house in Hill House. It is alive, and it feds on people, and then it creates for the ghosts a parallel reality to keep them in the loop, to keep feeding on them and to help capture new victims. Thats why the old carteker did not remember who he once was. They wanted Jack to kill Danny badly to have his shinning, because is really powerful (so a great meal). That's why from the beginning the hotel was after him, besides his father, while the mom only really saw the ghosts by the end.
The shinning is a movie that can be interpreted in many ways. What I got from it is that history repeats itself. continuing cycle of horror, insanity, rage. On the surface it's unseen, but it's always around.
Those twins gets me every time mostly because they just appear around a corner, and those flashbacks Danny kept seeing when he encountered those twins
Fun fact: The staircase scene when shes holding the bat, she had to do that scene over 230 times until the director was happy with her reaction. Fear, mentally broken and exhausted.
Jeez, that’s terrible
Yeah, it's widely known that Kubrick mentally terrorized Shelley Duval throughout this whole movie. There are documentaries on the subject, it's actually quite disturbing to hear. He truly was a vile piece of garbage.
@@whitenoisereacts Yep, Stanley Kubrick, the director really gave Shelly Duvall a hard time during shooting. She was a mess. There are several behind the scenes clips from the shooting set where he is just laying into her. 😳
He was not a vile piece of garbage. There aren’t “documentaries” about that. There is a making of video shot by Kubrick’s own daughter that shows some of the games Kubrick played with Shelley Duval on the set, which were cruel, but at the end there is an interview with Duval who talks about highly valuing her experience on the set, although she found it trying as well. Shelley Duval was so brilliantly cast because truly she is such a sensitive and delicate soul, but the repercussions of her sensitivity in her life have led to mental illness. I don’t think it was a direct result of the experience of making the Shining, as she went on to act in other films and produced a brilliant children’s tv series. Folks latch on to these stories of her being cruelly treated on the set and connect that with her mental breakdown MUCH later in life because it is a more easily digested story. No doubt he was a bastard to her on the set, but you could also say she was a pain in the ass, based on the daughter’s documentary. Why not hav
@@theshadowfax239 And yet that "vile piece of garbage" filmed the movie in such a way that the kid playing Danny never knew he was acting in a horror movie in order to protect the kid psychologically.
In the book, the hotel wanted Danny’s powers for itself, but he didn’t go insane, and so they settled for his dad, even though his powers were weaker because if he killed Danny, the hotel would absorb his soul.
The Shining is one of my favorite films to geek out over. There are literally countless things to discuss and analyze. The book is scary too, but for different reasons. The book paints Jack Torrance as being much more of a family man, actively trying to not "fall off the wagon," so to speak, and it's much more clear that he genuinely loves Wendy and Danny; this makes his descent into madness all the more heartbreaking.
I love the scene with Delbert Grady and Jack Torrance in the bathroom. Now in filmmaking, there's a rule commonly known as the 180-degree rule. This says that there's a general imaginary 180-degree arc, whose ends are connected by the "line of action," which in this case is the horizontal line formed between Delbert and Jack. The rule also says the camera must remain within that arc, so in simple terms, character A should always be on the left side of the frame, and character B on the right side. In this bathroom scene, Kubrick breaks that rule, which I interpret to mean that the film is foreshadowing, as well as giving credence to the idea, that the hotel is stealing Jack's soul and beginning to make him one with the hotel.
Finally, random tidbit: The iconic "Here's Johnny" line, while possibly being a strange nod to The Johnny Carson Show (that was how the voice announcer would introduce him), makes a little more sense contextually upon reading the book, where it's mentioned a couple of times that Jack's full name is Johnathan.
lol I'm 41 so it's so bizarre to see youngins be like "do you know who jack nicholson is?" "loading..."
glad you guys watched this.
Misery is one the best horror thrillers of all time, also based on a Stephen King novel and Kathy Bates won the best actress oscar for her performance in it - which is so rare for a horror type movie. Please react guys, you'll love it!
*Kathy Bates 💕 But I agree, I would love to see a reaction to it! 😁
@@katwebbxo I corrected it thank you lol x
I’m not interested in too many reaction vids but this one (the shining) and other masterworks are fun. Misery would be a good one as well.
One of the best movie sound tracks ever. The music sounds like it’s screaming, shrieking, crying, meaning, chanting. And it’s all creepy. Love it.
You guys are too cute, "He's just a million years younger!". You just made me feel really old...😉
Sorry…
How I feel ----->👵 Lol!
@@whitenoisereacts yeah you guys just cause someone isn’t 20 doesn’t mean they are old. I laugh cause you guys won’t be young forever. Just wait hahahahaha
I just love the fact that I get to re-discover some fantastic movies with you guys!
In the book, Jack is actually a much more sympathetic character that in this movies. Kubrick's version was a much less dimensional, just a cardboard cutout of the bad. But you should watch Dr. Sleep which fills things out, which were left out ( Yes, it is a sequel.). King famously hated Kubrick's version, and was never going to let Dr. Sleep be made, but the scriptwriter took the script to him to read. King approved it, because he felt like that script redeemed Kubrick's movie in his eyes.
You made me laugh when you were talking about how Danny was just running around without mom and dad. This movie was in the early 80s, and it wasn't at all unusual for kids Danny's age to be running around with no adult supervision. When we were kids, our parents would drop kick us out the front door and not expect us back until sunset if it wasn't a school day or it was summer vacation.
stephen king has ALWAYS been very critical of nearly every film of his books though. he dislikes or hates practically all of them but that doesn't mean he is agaisnt them being made...because he recognises that some people appreciate stories more visually. in a way i like that about SK but in other ways he is also very critical. so long as he is ok with his books being made into films i don't really care what he thinks of them. i read the books and watch the films so....
Um no, it’s NOT a sequel. It’s someone else’s version of what they think the meaning of Kubrick’s film was. A true sequel of something comes from the same mind or artist. Dr. Sleep is at best a cheap imitation of a masterpiece. King disliked Kubrick’s version because it turned his novel on its head and did something completely different.
I loved the scene with Danny riding his bike it’s a super cool one shot and difference in the sounds from the hardwood to the carpet is awesome
8:40 "doesn't seem ghostlike tho!" "No, it doesn't.."
8:43: 👯
8:43: 👁️👄👁️
lol great reaction guys!
The cook guy said what happened in the past left a trace of itself in the hotel. I have always taken it as like the hotel keeps repeating history over and over again. The hotel kind of absorbed Jack. Whoever the caretaker is feels as if they have always been part of the hotel and they are destined to chop up their family. It's definitely a more artistic/abstract film. I love it.
The part in the Gold Room where you asked "where did they film this?", it was actually filmed in an enormous studio in Elstree, England (as was the rest of the film, apart from the aerial shot). The Gold room actually burned down just before they finished filming and they had to rebuild the whole thing just for a few more days of filming!
The greatest thing about this movie is the discussions it starts after the movie ends. That is a sign of a truly mesmerizing movie!
You guys should buy the Blu Ray Doctor Sleep. It has a directors cut and Original version and it explains alot about what happened in The Shining and stars Ewan McGregor
Yes, they definitely need to watch it.
It's also vastly inferior.
Personally, I think that you guys are the best movie/tv show reaction channel
Just love the reactions when you guys hear that the Overlook Hotel was built on an Indian burial ground. A perfect combination of "Nooooo!" and "Well, you're fucked."
Give me the bat...
Wendy, stop swinging the bat....
WENDEEEEY 😆
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Bartok Music for Percussion, Strings and Celeste, a masterpiece and fantastic choice for lots of these scenes.
I still love this, despite having watched the original screening, and countless times at home. To me, it’s pure Kubrick, with the source novel being secondary. I think the lighting (and of course camera work) and the soundtrack come close to being characters. Some others have probably mentioned it, but the Steadicam was invented for this film.
One of my top 10 favorite films of all time. I first saw it when I was thirteen and just couldn't take my eyes off it. By the way, the whole interior of the Overlook is a set, based on the interiors of various actual hotels. The film took so long to shoot, they couldn't have closed a real hotel down for the duration. Also, it was in the middle of summer, so you're seeing tons of salt there, not snow. It actually started eating the soles off of people's shoes after a while. The Steadicam had just been invented at the time this was made, and was operated by the same guy who built it, hence the dynamic camerawork.
Stephen King described the Overlook as simply being "The bad place," a sort of subset of classic horror. Hill House would fall in that same genre.
I doubt Kubrick would have wanted to use an actual hotel even if h could have. His cinematic choices I think were so specific that he needed to create the set from scratch with p the “labyrinthine” hallways etc. (He most definitely based the interior design, elevators and Colorado lounge on the Awanhee hotel in CA). The outer set obviously was based on the actual Timberline hotel seen at the beginning. The drive sequences were from a completely different road unassociated with the Timberline. Who would’ve known lol.
32:40 This scene holds the world record for the most takes of a single scene with dialogue. It took 127 takes.
I was born in 1971 and I remember parents weren’t as overly protective as parents are today, I can remember walking to friends houses by myself when I was 5 or 6 and when my older brothers would be playing hockey me and the other kids my age would run around the arenas by ourselves while the parents watched the game. It was until the 80’s when there were a bunch of child abductions in the news that parents started keeping a closer eye on their kids, I see 5 or 6 year olds now and can’t imagine them going somewhere on their own.
The cook told Danny that when something bad happens in a place that it leaves a stain on the place, a lot of people die in hotels so all those deaths left a mark there and the cook and Danny had a sensitivity that allowed them to see the ghosts and since Danny had it I’m sure that his parents probably had it too but it wasn’t as strong.
Creepy AF from the opening till the end
The hotel has the Shining. The cook told Danny. Some people and some places "shine". Great video guys.
"The Wendy Theory" is the most plausible analysis of this movie in my opinion.
Yeesh!!! Poor jack Torrance didn’t find his way out of the hedge maze at 41:54
Lowkey the lower pitch makes Jack’s spiral even creepier
I really love this story, but the book is jus superior in everything specially on jack. On the movie he felt just like a bad person and a villan. In the book we go deep in his relationship whith danny and his past, showing us he really loves his family and when he finds out the hotel is the one controlling him we have such great interaction, also the ending is way different
Yes, NTB. Redrum is in fact MURDER backwards. Little Danny is one very special kid!!!!
Since you've enjoyed Midsommar you might like the fact that the directors of Midsommar based the opening shot of the Shining on that cool road scene you see in Midsommar
You mention the great cinematography, that is what Stanley Kubrick does best. I think this was his only horror movie, but all of his movies have the most amazing cinematography you will ever see. Some of the most memorable scenes in movie history are from Kubrick movies. I highly recommend all of his movies for that alone, but over and above that most are great movies in their own right.
Have you seen Barry Lyndon? Cinematography is some of the best ever done in any film. Won Oscar for this.
Jack doesn’t need an axe. Just his eyebrows alone are scary enough. I wouldn’t want to be alone in a room with him
I’m so excited for you to see Doctor Sleep, it was so good and I appreciated it very much as a sequel. I think you guys will really like it! And thank you for all the wonderful content you guys produce! You’ve quickly become one of my all time favorite channels to watch ;)
the "no copyright" distracts me and it makes me think that its in the movie i just cant stop thinking about it
"that's a GREAT idea, it's like housesitting a hotel."
Jack Torrance prolly said the same thing lol
The miniseries written by King himself is actually a lot closer to the book. It also shows us who "Tony" really is, just like in the book.
Aside from that I always loved this version but enjoyed watching the other one as well.
My favorite movie ever. It’s a big deal that you guys are getting to experience any Kubrick for the first time on the channel 🙌 Everything he did is a must watch
"Hi im Jack Nicholson and this is one of the best performances in a movie of all time"
Just to let you guys know, “Shining” itself is a common theme that happens in multiple Stephen King stories. While this book/film were given the title of Shining, other characters of his had the ability to shine. If you’ve seen The Green Mile, you’re familiar with another character with the it.
Also kind of alluded to in IT, that all the Losers Club can Shine, mostly Bill though.
"Here`s Johnny" was a double meaning. The original Late Show with Johnny Carson always opened with the host being introduced with that phrase said the exact way Jack Nicholson says it albeit less maniacally-toned obviously!It also alludes to both "Jack" and "Johnny" being slangy shortforms of Johnathan.
White Noise - the African American CHEF was played by Scatman Crothers (aka JAZZ in Transformers ).
So the way I saw it was that...The hotel claimed Jack's soul at the end hence why he was in the picture at the end. The Hotel had a lot of shit that happened there. Such a great movie. I love how perplexed you guys were at the end....Just Priceless! Also...the old man's Shining was outdated because it didn't show him that he was about to be axed in the heart. I mean...he went all that way to get chopped in the heart. ..Awesome powers!!!
If y'all are interested in Stanley Kubrick movies, I would recommend A Clockwork Orange or Full Metal Jacket.
Full metal jacket < I love that movie so long
2001 Space Odyssey
In the book the Tony character is a version of Danny from the future. A older version of Danny trying to get his younger self to survive the hotel. He is called Tony because Anthony his Danny’s middle name. Kubrick felt that wouldn’t work in the movie and got rid of it.
nicholson has made many many classic films that are generally considered the gold standard in acting... definately someone you seek more films in... one in particular of course is A FEW GOOD MEN... one of the most famous monologues in movie history. absolute must watch cinema...
The Overlook Hotel is a real place in Oregon on Mount Hood called the Timberline Lodge. Though the exterior of the hotel was used in The Shining, the interior shots were filmed in Elstree Studios in England where the the inside of the hotel was actually built.
The interior is based on the Ahwahnee in Yosemite.
you guys should definitely watch Misery! Such a good film x
There was a phrase in the movie, previous caretaker sad it to Jack, you were always the caretaker. And Jack said that it was like he was there before, and he is on the old photo. That’s because he was always the caretaker, that’s the idea
This is my favorite horror movie. Doctor Sleep insane but you should watch director's cut too.
Jack Nicholson acting is SO DAMN GOOD.
Nobody can do crazy quite like Jack. I love it!!
You get a ‘kind of’ explanation in the sequel to this in Doctor Sleep
I highly recommend “Pet Sematary” the original or the remake both adapted from the Stephen King novel.
The original Pet Sematary is more faithful to the book, and Stephen King has a cameo role in it as well. I recommend watching that first before the remake.
The new one I didn’t like but the original is so much better and you really connect with the characters I didn’t get that from the remake. I’d definitely watch the original one and even Pet Cemetery 2 before the remake.
Need more Stephen King books turned films! Misery, The Mist and the original Carrie are some of my favorite books and movies!
The books are great but they do stuff up a lot of his books when filming them
I don't know but it irks me when they change something from the book in the film
This movie was first released 42 years ago in theaters. But the very first time I saw this movie is when it was on TV. And I really like watching this movie with you the both of you guys. And I really enjoy watching movies with you guys.
There are people who write college papers about this movie and there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of video video dissecting this movie. All I'm saying is that there are lots of theories and it would take a long time for you to probably partially understand this movie.
In answer to your question of "where did they film this?", EVERY interior scene that took place in the hotel -- the hallways, the grand lobby, the kitchen, their living quarters, the grand staircase -- all of it were massive sets built in multiple soundstages at Pinewood Studios outside London. The exterior shots of the hotel and the hedge maze were also on the property of Pinewood. Kubrick had everything built so he could have complete control and also to allow him to create impossible architectural nuances to intentionally disorient the viewer. For example, in the opening scene where Jack enters the lobby for the interview and the camera follows him through a doorway and then into the Ullman's office we see a window behind Ullman that looks outside, which is impossible because the office isn't located anywhere near any external walls.
Yes, all at Pinewood. The exterior set was inspired by the Mt. Hood Lodge in OR, and the interior on the Ahwahnee in Yosemite.
This is book is based on Stephen King’s stay at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park Colorado. It’s really haunted. My husband and I stayed there years ago. Nothing happened that night but we took a tour and weird things happened on the tour. It’s a super creepy movie and I thought all the actors were great. I would get so nervous when Danny would ride his bike around the hallways. Creeped me out. Good reaction
I went on the ghost tour too and experienced weird things both while we were there and when we left. It's such a cool place.
The Overlook Hotel is simmilar to Pennywise, but instead of inspring fear it inspires craziness.
Now you've seen this you should watch The Wendy Theory! It completely explains this movie in a way that turns it fully on its head and will make you question everything. Mind blowing!
To me, The Shining is about the hotel especially-in the movie, Hallorann says that some people *and places* have the shining, which certainly seems to be the case for this hotel. However, apparently it is more actively sinister than that, especially since the door seems to become unlocked and the place interacts with its residents with a goal in mind.
I attribute it to the old “buried on an Indian Graveyard” trope. It was founded in evil (the founders disrespected the locals, even fought them off, by building on their burial grounds obviously).
I remember thinking some color schemes were weird, and then I noticed there were variations on red, white, and blue in a lot of scenes. Jack ranting about doing his duty and work makes no sense since Wendy seems to be doing everything, but IMO the hotel amplifies these beliefs of the white patriarch-that it’s his job to discipline and lead his family, and his wife and child could never understand. Then it uses him as an instrument to murder everyone and keep even more souls there.
The book seems to have many more details, and Steven King hated the ambiguity in this movie. It’s one of the reasons I like Kubrick and dislike King lol. The ambiguity is what makes it so eerie, powerful, and intriguing.
14:50, this was all a matte shot right here, it's really impressive. They filmed this by a parking lot shot from a 10-11 story building. The matte artist had to paint the hedge maze.
They filmed this movie at the Stanley Hotel, and the real Hotel is where Stephen King wrote The Shinning book. Plus the Hotel is Haunted which adds that scary factor to it.
The creepy thing about the scene with the psychiatrist and Danny is that in the background you can see the children's book of a Tiger peeking out at them. When the shots change, the positioning of the book changes as if "Tony" is listening in and is hiding when he's brought up. Super creepy.
Cool. There’s a TON of things like this and also cartoon characters are used in various ways thematically. In the same scene, you see Goofy marionette hanging in the background and Wendy wearing the exact same color scheme costume (a female version obviously) the shoes are even the same color, pointing to her relative naïveté and ignorance at this point in the story. At the end she finally sees all the evil of the hotel herself.
Excited for Dr.Sleep, definitely do the directors cut, I only just saw it recently and I was blown away by how awesome it is
@@whitenoisereacts If it was 3 hours long it was the directors cut lol, don’t worry if it was the theatrical the biggest differences is scenes of dialogue just go on for longer for example in the directors cut the scene with Danny and Halloran on the bench in the opening is like 2 minutes longer. You don’t miss out on any plot but there is still more depth in the directors cut. Which the movie is directed by Mike Flanagan who did Haunting Of Hill House and Bly Manor so that’s cool
24:50 - “the cell lines are down” 😂I feel old
You should watch Misery with Kathy Bates and James Caan! It's so well done and such a good movie!
The set of the Overlook is a real Hotel called The Stanley Hotel in Estes Park Colorado
you guys should watch a video essay here on youtube called "the wendy theory". i've seen and read plenty of analysis of this movie over the years and that essay is the first one to make perfect sense. edit: and before anyone else can warn you, yes the narration is an irritating robot voice, but what it has to say is interesting enough to neutralize its annoyance.
An absolute classic and the pace is perfectly necessary to the mood it needed.
It's really interesting watching your reactions. Listening to comments from younger people to vintage classic movies is such fun. You seem to have a more intellectual way of processing impressions from filmstories. The emotional expressions are less direct than seen in older generations, it's like there's a sort of distance between contemporary youth and the world they experience. Such a Treat. 🎃🤡👹👽
I cant watch anyone react to movies when they dont even get the genius of Jack Nicholson. His eyebrows? He's legendary.
There are a lot of elements that add suspense ... the sound of Jack’s typewriter, at times the eerie silence, the sound of Danny’s little bike going from carpet to hardwood.
Jack Nicholson has 3 Oscar wins for
• As Good As It Gets
• One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
• Terms of Endearment
He's one of the best actors and this is UNFORGETTABLE.
In an alternative universe, Wendy killed everybody after she ran out of ciggy butts.
Hallorann explained it to Danny. The hotel has had traces left behind by some of the crazy stuff that's happened there over the years. These traces are essentially ghosts, although that word isn't used by Hallorann. If you have the shining power, you'll see some of these traces. People without the shining don't see anything unusual, which is why the hotel can function without problems for the most part. Hallorann can see some of the stuff in the hotel but not everything because his power is not that strong. Danny's power IS that strong. The hotel confirms this when Grady tells Jack that his son has that talent. If you die there under the right circumstances you get absorbed by the hotel, then you're 'always' there. This is why Jack is in the photo and why Grady is still there. If Danny is killed there then the hotel absorbs his power too, this is the hotel's motivation for wanting Jack to kill him. Danny's shining is powering the hotel, which is why Jack and later Wendy can see the ghosts when they want to appear in front of them. The implication is that with Danny's power the hotel would be permanently active, everyone would be able to see the ghosts and basically that hotel would be the scariest haunted house ever. That's what I get out of it.
I think we were looking at the ghosts of Indians on which the hotel is built. Jack has one of the ghosts in him and has always been at the hotel, even before he arrived at the beginning of this movie.
First time I've seen someone recognize the Dies Irae right away so huge props! No, calling it Berlioz doesn't count
Misery will have yall messed up! You definitely have to check that film out!
10:00 In Re: Danny being left to wander on his own in the game room, or his being without a seatbelt in the car, etc -- ironically, these facets of the story are the absolutely most "normal" thing for parents to often do with their kids back in the late 70s and prior, lol...
The story that Jack was given was about Charles Grady (1970's) -- The ghost that Jack meets is Delbert Grady (1930's) -- The hotel claims souls and keeps them forever.
I recommend watching “The Wendy Theory”. A very interesting take on this movie. It has no bearing on the source material, just this movie as King himself said it was a diversion from his work. But gives a great alternative context that makes a lot of sense.
yes! i just made the same suggestion in a comment.
Exactly it really does make a lot of sense when you notice all the inconsistencies in set dressings and such.
It's the most plausible theory I've run across to date and it explains the movie from beginning to end.
Not only that, but if The Wendy Theory is true, it places Kubrick on a level of genius that I can't even contemplate. I'm fairly convinced by the theory. After seeing that video I told a friend of mine, "I've always thought Kubrick was a great filmmaker, but this puts him at an incomprehensible height of genius."
I honestly like the differentiation from the novel to the movie because the novel was way more heartfelt and sympathetic. Whereas the movie just felt cold and bleak and mean-spirited, which is what King himself said, but that works because it is a horror movie and horror is at its best when it’s cruel in my personal opinion
I love this movie. I don't ever get tired of it. The performances and cinematography are just too stellar to be ignored.
Tbh I read the novel after having seen the movie multiple times. I do agree, that storywise the novel is superior. It showcases Jack's character of an alcoholic husband/father/failed writer and the ensuing family dynamics much better and the resolution makes more sense too and is more suspenseful.
But movie is just a different medium than a novel, and every movie will stray a bit from it's original novel source (if based on a novel that is). As a movie it is great, even if it may have drawbacks if compared to the book.
This is why it is a classic. So many questions. It stays with you.
My favorite King's book 😍😍😍
I CANNOT WAIT FOR YOUR REACTION TO DR. SLEEP.
The fact Mr. Halloran died will forever piss me off NGL. That man did not travel cross country to save a little boy and his mum just to get axed in the chest, it's BS
In Stephen King's book he survived.
@@tasha7726 really?! oh thank god you just saved my mood
@@tasha7726 I know! That's what makes it even worse!
If you want to see Jack Nicolson at his best, watch “as good as it gets” he was great in that
OMFG, one of my favourite content creators reaction to my favourite film. 😜 I can die a happy man.
Ps. Found your channel about a week ago, ever since I average 3 to 5 of your vids a day. Keep up the great work. 👏
@@whitenoisereacts the conjuring reactions, I love those movie's but you guys sparked my love the franchise to a whole new level. Cheers. Have you seen baby driver?