I've been waiting for this one! I'm curious, do you bounce back and fourth between working with an HO scale ruler and Millimeters or do you do everything in millimeters? ~Dennis
I bounce around depending how the "increments" line up. It's pretty tough to build in HO without the smaller increments. I mean the Egyptians used a rope to measure with . . . lol.
@@boomerdiorama Thank you! Here is my next question. If you had no Evergreen materials at all, what would your first purchase of materials look like? I have nothing at the moment but will absolutely need materials. I want to get what will be most useful first and build up my stock over the next few months. Sorry if you have been asked this before... You should write a book!!
@@OtterCreek Evergreen Plastic will always be a valuable investment to any scratch builder for the rest of their life. The first Evergreen materials would be all the "plain" sheets like, .010", .015", .020", .030", .040", .060" and .080" thou thickness. I usually special order (through your hobby shop or direct), larger sheets on the thicker material which I tend to use for large walls, facades, etc (.060" to .080" mostly). Then, flesh out your inventory as you begin building, with all the rod, right angle, strip stock, etc., as you see fit. Every time I go to the hobby shop for paint I pick up a pack or two of Evergreen strip to build up the inventory.😁
Great idea for the diner Boomer! Sense there is limited space on the shelf layout your facade warehouses look splendid. But to include a full size structure like the yard office and now the diner, I believe it gives the shelf layout far more realistic appeal! And, the way you're breaking each video into sections is a fine idea, and much easier to follow the progress. I have learned so much already about scratch building a structure. Something I have never done. Thank You for devoting so much of your time to these videos! CHEERS
I always loved the line from bicentennial man, when Rupert is talking to Andrew about building his face, 'the secret is imperfection...its what makes us unique'. So the secret to perfection is imperfection
I believe you have touched on several key elements in developing a scene, or vignette. Having scenic features parallel or perpendicular to the front of the layout makes the space appear smaller. The slight angles expand the layout. The angles also create the slight tension an asymmetrical scene, causing you to pause and look for more. In my humble opinion that is a feature of great art. You are hitting the right balance.
Fascinating! Love watching your process. There's still an Art Deco diner in Flagstaff, Arizona, with the origial fascade and most of the interior furnishings right down to the stools and remote juke box selectors in the booths. It's located on old Route 66 about 3 blocks down from the Amtrak station. The diner is in pretty neglected condition, but would be a great candidate, IMHO, for a rennovation.
We actually have one here in Fort Langley with the individual "Juke Boxes" at each booth. They still sling Burgers, Fries and Shakes there. They also have an Elvis Presley mannequin in the corner . . . lol.😁
When I was a member of a club we had the philosophy that we needed to strive for a museum quality product and if that would fail the end product would be very good rather than just putting things together. I wish I had this video set many years ago as I have learned so much watching you work. Thanks!!! Tubing to make corners, who would have thunk it???
I agree with your modeling philosophy. I leave imperfections in trail all the time. When I get to the end of things they usually disappear because I forgot about them. ;-)
Peachy keen build, I noticed looking through some old model railroad books from the 40's, before plastic, buildings were made of cardstock and wood will cellulose for windows. looking around my semi-office I got all kinds of carbstock from boxes and packaging. The idea bulb just came as I stumbled across a tube of good ol Ambroid glue.
@@ericp6612 It takes a while. I think the surgeon should have put a (dissolvable) stitch inside as well because it was fairly deep. Some times it feels like it is still a fresh cut. It's weird but it feels better each day - slowly. Cheers and thank you!😁
Wow Boomer. WOW, WOW, WOW. I'm just blown away. It is just so soothing and exciting watching you build. Just got home from work. Kicking back to relax and unwind, I feel like I am building along with you from my armchair. Making me dream: "What if I did something like that?" All of your techniques for building with Evergreen plastic are inspiring and golden. I can remember what it's like to touch Testor's solvent to polystyrene and get that instant bond. Can't wait for part 2.
Lots of good stuff in this, Boomer. I'm now even happier that most of the buildings on my little diorama layout are not parallel or perpendicular to the shelf edges. The exception is the large industrial flat on the rear backdrop, but it is in the back. Also, I'm very glad to see how you cut doorways, etc. in 0.80" styrene stock using drilled holes and a chisel blade. I have been drilling single holes near the corners but doing many, many cuts with a No. 11 on the straight sections (and diagonals for windows). I will be changing to your method, and I'm also inspired to seriously consider building a more era-appropriate enginehouse than the one I have. I managed to somewhat back-date the kit standing there now, but it should look even older. Cheers from Wisconsin!
Wow - this is one of my favourite scratch builds so far. Will need to watch the vlog over and over again just to absorb the technical elements of the build. Can’t wait for part 2. River Road just gets better with every instalment.
Thanks. Your content is wonderfully varied and interesting. Regarding Hopper's painting, I've always thought, or felt from the first time I saw this painting, that the "shelf" against the glass is a bench for folks waiting for an opening at the counter. It appears wide enough and looks to have a thick cushion.
Happy for a new episode. I’m a new subscriber and have been watching so many of your videos over the last week or two. Thanks for sharing this with us all. I may finally pull the trigger and start my own shelf layout soon.
This is amazing, you’re amazing!!! I’ve seen the “Night Hawk” many times as I live in the western suburbs of Chicago and go to the Institute often, it’s one of my favorites. Here an idea for another great artist, you of course, make 2 of these, display one under his painting at the Art Institute of Chicago (because yours will be spectacular), and one on your diorama. Wait, make 3 you can give me one for my layout for such a great idea but I’ll need it in N Gauge, LOL Your eyes will be like mine, strained 😂 Ron
@@boomerdiorama That would be great to share it with all around the world, it's been there for as long as I can remember and I'm now 71, so lets hope so.
I'm on the edge of my diner stool waiting for part 2. In my head I see black and white tile, chrome diner stools with red seat cushions and how about a couple table top Jukeboxes on the counter instead of the conventional Jukebox? Like I do when estimating furniture to be refinished, I see it completed in my head before I even start. Are you planning on building all your own details too? That's my favorite part of a build.
At this point I'm trying to stay faithful to the painting in terms of simplicity. Nevertheless, all those details you mentioned are foremost on my mind. The challenge is to not get bogged down with minutia and distracted from the other buildings required to flesh - out the scene first. ;-)
Not a model maker and it is your model but... I might have put the Washroom wall on a right-angle and left the area of odd tiling angle as evidence of a less than perfect renovation in the past. Possibly made the tile shade (less UV light fading?) and wear patterns different. Or even done that and used the area as a 'Pantry' with a freezer or freezers and have the door at the end of the counter lead to a more modern extension enclosing a 'to code' Washroom that has a small lobby or some other arrangement that allows for an external Fire Escape. Running with the 'Newer Fire Escape in the back left' idea, maybe a noticeably newer lift up flap (and swing partition below it?) to allow the staff to escape other than through the most likely place for a fire, the kitchen? This old classic building has a story. ... but I expect a) that you have thought all that through far better than I can and b) the diner is built now.
Off to a great start👍. Well thought-out. Question - what about the figures? Will you scratchbuild, like Bullwinkle? Or store-bought - maybe ModelU? Take care - Bill.
Love what your doing .watching with great anticipation . Question.I noticed on your 3 way switch is there a reason that the switch throws are not on the same sides? If your switching out cars you haft to keep stepping over the tracks. Just a thought. Thank You
That was built in from beginning. I had no idea I was going to use the switch in this situation when I built it. It's an unusual situation with the main running through it as well. Many situations are like this on the SRY prototype anyway through New Westminster with interchanges, yards, etc. I can change it or leave it - who knows. Thanks for sharing though. Cheers.
Enjoyed your comment about giving a little curve to your track so that not everything is perfectly symmetrical. Reminded me of something I was taught in like 7th or 8th grade art class. If you have a small number of similarly-sized things to look at ... any kind of thing ... an odd number is better. One flower in a vase is better than two flowers ... three (or five) flowers are better then four, etc. Once you have lots of similar or related things, odd/even doesn't matter so much because your brain stops counting. Ever hear anything like this? Would love your comment.
I have always understood this principle in art. Odd numbers look better than even numbers. Furthermore, it also helps to off-set from the center of the space as well. Picture a "balance" with one large weight on one side and three smaller weights on the other - both sides equal in weight but with uneven distribution.
Was there any special technique used to glue down the curved section of the first pony wall strip, or did you just follow the line and tack a little bit down at a time? The "real" window must have cost as much as the rest of the diner, if not more. Making it must have been a real pain, and transporting and installing it even more - one little slip, and . . .
Boomer, a crying to be modeled brick unusual building in Google Earth at 176 S Dunn street, Eupora, Mississipi. Not your era but that 5 sides 2 storey, narrow 20 X 60' with partially collapsed roof have been refurbished as can be seen in Google "The 2019 BSA Christmas card presents the flat iron building" With refurbished facade and iron gallery. With neighbor white garage you play with color, materials and height difference. Bonus on the other side of that corner streets building is former, looking spanking new Colombus & Greenville train station with abandoned trackage. It can be selectively compressed in lenght but almost nothing in widht. It´s V shape facade as backdrop or complete building. Enjoy ! .
I've been waiting for this one! I'm curious, do you bounce back and fourth between working with an HO scale ruler and Millimeters or do you do everything in millimeters? ~Dennis
I bounce around depending how the "increments" line up. It's pretty tough to build in HO without the smaller increments. I mean the Egyptians used a rope to measure with . . . lol.
@@boomerdiorama Thank you! Here is my next question. If you had no Evergreen materials at all, what would your first purchase of materials look like? I have nothing at the moment but will absolutely need materials. I want to get what will be most useful first and build up my stock over the next few months. Sorry if you have been asked this before... You should write a book!!
@@OtterCreek Evergreen Plastic will always be a valuable investment to any scratch builder for the rest of their life.
The first Evergreen materials would be all the "plain" sheets like, .010", .015", .020", .030", .040", .060" and .080" thou thickness. I usually special order (through your hobby shop or direct), larger sheets on the thicker material which I tend to use for large walls, facades, etc (.060" to .080" mostly).
Then, flesh out your inventory as you begin building, with all the rod, right angle, strip stock, etc., as you see fit. Every time I go to the hobby shop for paint I pick up a pack or two of Evergreen strip to build up the inventory.😁
@@boomerdiorama I do the same thing, and with 1/1 scale woodworking projects as well - less the rope.
A magician, turning strips of styrene into a work of art.
Styrene is awesome!
Right back from the pub. Now to sit and enjoy watching your video.
Enjoy!
That forest looks real......👍🎄⛄😎🎸🦫
I love it! Thank you. Cheers ~ Boomer.
.. the artists perspective..we'd make great neighbors... the context of seeing, thx for the posts..looking forward to the next kb
😁
Great idea for the diner Boomer! Sense there is limited space on the shelf layout your facade warehouses look splendid. But to include a full size structure like the yard office and now the diner, I believe it gives the shelf layout far more realistic appeal!
And, the way you're breaking each video into sections is a fine idea, and much easier to follow the progress.
I have learned so much already about scratch building a structure. Something I have never done.
Thank You for devoting so much of your time to these videos!
CHEERS
Thank you for sharing Steven. Much appreciated ~ Boomer. 👍
I always loved the line from bicentennial man, when Rupert is talking to Andrew about building his face, 'the secret is imperfection...its what makes us unique'. So the secret to perfection is imperfection
It's the world we all live in. Perfection can actually create blocks that can be difficult to overcome.
Thanks!
Thank You!👍
I believe you have touched on several key elements in developing a scene, or vignette. Having scenic features parallel or perpendicular to the front of the layout makes the space appear smaller. The slight angles expand the layout. The angles also create the slight tension an asymmetrical scene, causing you to pause and look for more. In my humble opinion that is a feature of great art. You are hitting the right balance.
Yes. You are correct. Angles induce artificial horizons making the scene look larger than it actually is.😁
Fine art, love art deco.
Me too!
Fantastic build Boomer, jukebox is a must
Should be a cool feature. ;-)
What a timely upload Boomer. Just in time for me while taking a break, aka "letting the glue dry" before I get back to it. 😉👍
Enjoy!
Excellent tutorial on getting building details right. Also pleased to see both hands BEHIND the blade! Once bitten.....Cheers
Thanks 👍
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Fascinating! Love watching your process. There's still an Art Deco diner in Flagstaff, Arizona, with the origial fascade and most of the interior furnishings right down to the stools and remote juke box selectors in the booths. It's located on old Route 66 about 3 blocks down from the Amtrak station. The diner is in pretty neglected condition, but would be a great candidate, IMHO, for a rennovation.
We actually have one here in Fort Langley with the individual "Juke Boxes" at each booth. They still sling Burgers, Fries and Shakes there. They also have an Elvis Presley mannequin in the corner . . . lol.😁
Great start!
Yup. Cheers.
Love the dinner great build! I'm working on my layout while I'm watching this! Makes me work harder!!
Awesome! Thank you!
When I was a member of a club we had the philosophy that we needed to strive for a museum quality product and if that would fail the end product would be very good rather than just putting things together. I wish I had this video set many years ago as I have learned so much watching you work. Thanks!!! Tubing to make corners, who would have thunk it???
I agree with your modeling philosophy. I leave imperfections in trail all the time. When I get to the end of things they usually disappear because I forgot about them. ;-)
Peachy keen build, I noticed looking through some old model railroad books from the 40's, before plastic, buildings were made of cardstock and wood will cellulose for windows. looking around my semi-office I got all kinds of carbstock from boxes and packaging. The idea bulb just came as I stumbled across a tube of good ol Ambroid glue.
Have at her!
Thanks.
You're welcome!
As always, really enjoyed watching 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing work! I hope your hand is healing well!
Thank you. My hand is healing well. I did do some nerve damage though. It feels O.K. Cheers.
Hopefully the nerve heals quickly!
@@ericp6612 It takes a while. I think the surgeon should have put a (dissolvable) stitch inside as well because it was fairly deep. Some times it feels like it is still a fresh cut. It's weird but it feels better each day - slowly. Cheers and thank you!😁
Wow Boomer. WOW, WOW, WOW. I'm just blown away. It is just so soothing and exciting watching you build. Just got home from work. Kicking back to relax and unwind, I feel like I am building along with you from my armchair. Making me dream: "What if I did something like that?" All of your techniques for building with Evergreen plastic are inspiring and golden. I can remember what it's like to touch Testor's solvent to polystyrene and get that instant bond. Can't wait for part 2.
Thank you Rodney. Much appreciated. 😁👍
Lots of good stuff in this, Boomer. I'm now even happier that most of the buildings on my little diorama layout are not parallel or perpendicular to the shelf edges. The exception is the large industrial flat on the rear backdrop, but it is in the back. Also, I'm very glad to see how you cut doorways, etc. in 0.80" styrene stock using drilled holes and a chisel blade. I have been drilling single holes near the corners but doing many, many cuts with a No. 11 on the straight sections (and diagonals for windows). I will be changing to your method, and I'm also inspired to seriously consider building a more era-appropriate enginehouse than the one I have. I managed to somewhat back-date the kit standing there now, but it should look even older. Cheers from Wisconsin!
I like to drill out openings this way. It's safer and usually results in a clean edge as well.
Wow - this is one of my favourite scratch builds so far. Will need to watch the vlog over and over again just to absorb the technical elements of the build. Can’t wait for part 2. River Road just gets better with every instalment.
Awesome, thank you Peter! Cheers.
Fabluuulous!
Fabulous fun!😁
loving this tutorial can't wait for part two
Thank you. Me too!
Awesome. I learned a lot. Thank you for sharing. Can't wait to enjoy part two.
Great to hear!
Thanks. Your content is wonderfully varied and interesting.
Regarding Hopper's painting, I've always thought, or felt from the first time I saw this painting, that the "shelf" against the glass is a bench for folks waiting for an opening at the counter. It appears wide enough and looks to have a thick cushion.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
Im loving it and learning a lot as you go looking forward to the next one.
Awesome, thank you!
Another amazing video and tips/techniques! Can't wait for part 2!
Thanks so much!
Looking forward to the next part!
Working on it . . . ;-)
It's always a pleasure to watch you work and hear your explinations! Great update Boomer!
Thank you kindly
It's going to be awesome indeed! Like the diners of the 50's and 60's. Waiting on part II for sure.
I get more into the details in the next installments.
Happy for a new episode. I’m a new subscriber and have been watching so many of your videos over the last week or two. Thanks for sharing this with us all. I may finally pull the trigger and start my own shelf layout soon.
Thank you for the sub and welcome aboard! Glad to have you. Cheers ~ Boomer.
This is amazing, you’re amazing!!! I’ve seen the “Night Hawk” many times as I live in the western suburbs of Chicago and go to the Institute often, it’s one of my favorites. Here an idea for another great artist, you of course, make 2 of these, display one under his painting at the Art Institute of Chicago (because yours will be spectacular), and one on your diorama. Wait, make 3 you can give me one for my layout for such a great idea but I’ll need it in N Gauge, LOL
Your eyes will be like mine, strained 😂 Ron
I heard the original painting is in Chicago. Must be awesome to see. Hopefully it will tour one day to the Vancouver Art gallery one day.😁
@@boomerdiorama That would be great to share it with all around the world, it's been there for as long as I can remember and I'm now 71, so lets hope so.
My summary of this is - pay attention to the correct details!
Every subsequent model detail is a new learning curve
I'm on the edge of my diner stool waiting for part 2. In my head I see black and white tile, chrome diner stools with red seat cushions and how about a couple table top Jukeboxes on the counter instead of the conventional Jukebox? Like I do when estimating furniture to be refinished, I see it completed in my head before I even start. Are you planning on building all your own details too? That's my favorite part of a build.
At this point I'm trying to stay faithful to the painting in terms of simplicity. Nevertheless, all those details you mentioned are foremost on my mind. The challenge is to not get bogged down with minutia and distracted from the other buildings required to flesh - out the scene first. ;-)
@@robertbeaty4909 😁
Not a model maker and it is your model but...
I might have put the Washroom wall on a right-angle and left the area of odd tiling angle as evidence of a less than perfect renovation in the past. Possibly made the tile shade (less UV light fading?) and wear patterns different.
Or even done that and used the area as a 'Pantry' with a freezer or freezers and have the door at the end of the counter lead to a more modern extension enclosing a 'to code' Washroom that has a small lobby or some other arrangement that allows for an external Fire Escape.
Running with the 'Newer Fire Escape in the back left' idea, maybe a noticeably newer lift up flap (and swing partition below it?) to allow the staff to escape other than through the most likely place for a fire, the kitchen?
This old classic building has a story.
... but I expect a) that you have thought all that through far better than I can and b) the diner is built now.
Good observation. I did change the washroom wall to an angle already . . . ;-). Cheers.
I think the kitchen door should be in the rear. That's the common sense place for deliveries.
The kitchen (in the rear) has double doors for deliveries. I guess I should have said access door to customer foyer. Cheers.
Off to a great start👍. Well thought-out. Question - what about the figures? Will you scratchbuild, like Bullwinkle? Or store-bought - maybe ModelU? Take care - Bill.
I will be (kit-bashing) converting some (HO Scale) Preiser figures (modified) to represent the figures in the painting.
@ Oh yeah Preisers are good. Looking forward to how you perform surgery on the poor souls, with no anesthesia🤣 Take care - Bill
@@MyFingerLakesRailwayLayout 🤣😁
Love what your doing .watching with great anticipation . Question.I noticed on your 3 way switch is there a reason that the switch throws are not on the same sides? If your switching out cars you haft to keep stepping over the tracks. Just a thought. Thank You
That was built in from beginning. I had no idea I was going to use the switch in this situation when I built it. It's an unusual situation with the main running through it as well. Many situations are like this on the SRY prototype anyway through New Westminster with interchanges, yards, etc. I can change it or leave it - who knows. Thanks for sharing though. Cheers.
That Moose is getting around. Is he getting the train?
;-)
Enjoyed your comment about giving a little curve to your track so that not everything is perfectly symmetrical. Reminded me of something I was taught in like 7th or 8th grade art class. If you have a small number of similarly-sized things to look at ... any kind of thing ... an odd number is better. One flower in a vase is better than two flowers ... three (or five) flowers are better then four, etc. Once you have lots of similar or related things, odd/even doesn't matter so much because your brain stops counting. Ever hear anything like this? Would love your comment.
I have always understood this principle in art. Odd numbers look better than even numbers. Furthermore, it also helps to off-set from the center of the space as well. Picture a "balance" with one large weight on one side and three smaller weights on the other - both sides equal in weight but with uneven distribution.
Are you sure the freezer is big enough? Is that the only food storage device? Refrigerators?
It's all I can can afford . . . lol.😁
Noooooooo. You can't post this when I'm in the pub 🤣
🤣😂😁👍
Was there any special technique used to glue down the curved section of the first pony wall strip, or did you just follow the line and tack a little bit down at a time?
The "real" window must have cost as much as the rest of the diner, if not more. Making it must have been a real pain, and transporting and installing it even more - one little slip, and . . .
I show more of that process in Part2 . . . but yes, I followed the line an inch at a time as I glued it. Cheers.
I think I grab a bite! Cheers
😁
Alright. You've had 8 hrs. Where's Part 2? HAHAHAHAHA! 👍👍
In post production for 30 hours between life, liberty and freedom . . . lol.
Boomer, a crying to be modeled brick unusual building in Google Earth at
176 S Dunn street, Eupora, Mississipi. Not your era but that 5 sides 2 storey, narrow 20 X 60' with partially collapsed roof have been refurbished as can be seen in Google "The 2019 BSA Christmas card presents the flat iron building"
With refurbished facade and iron gallery.
With neighbor white garage you play with color, materials and height difference. Bonus on the other side of that corner streets building is former, looking spanking new Colombus & Greenville train station with abandoned trackage.
It can be selectively compressed in lenght but almost nothing in widht. It´s V shape facade as backdrop or complete building.
Enjoy !
.
Sounds awesome!👍