Ammonia is NOT Your Enemy! Learning to Live With Ammonia

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  • Ammonia in your fish tank is nothing to be afraid of. It gets out of the water quickly and provides nutrients for various plants and bacteria in your aquarium. In a deep substrate tank, ammonia is actually beneficial.
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  • @kenrooke9047
    @kenrooke9047 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    As earlier stated it’s hard to break free from all the years of really doing what you thought was right only to discover you had no idea it was this natural,easy and cost effective. At 70 learning is still possible. If I hadn’t discovered Father Fish I would still be in the dark. Hard to believe this man in his 80’s is still changing the way we enjoy the hobby. His dedication to the cause can’t be understated. Thanks for all you do sir.

    • @drinesantos8596
      @drinesantos8596 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’re right! Father fish has taught me a lot through his videos and livestream. I am grateful for his dedication and sharing all that with us. 😊

    • @mclovin2408
      @mclovin2408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I definitely respect him and his fishkeeping abilities, and he’s taught me a lot, but sometimes I don’t always agree.

  • @ryanrogers8211
    @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Thank you for taking away my worries regarding this. It’s hard to break out of the old thinking about things.

  • @Greencloud8
    @Greencloud8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Crazy how clean my tank is

  • @eldragonrojo42069
    @eldragonrojo42069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That is an amazing sorority you have there

  • @OR6600
    @OR6600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hello I’ve been following father fish. I haven’t done water changes in three months in three different tanks. Parameters are perfect. Plants are healthy guppies are on their second batch of fry. I just set up a 20 gallon long dirted my first one I had to see what all the hype is about so I painted black background I went 1 inch organic potting soil mix with topsoil from the local farm 2 inches sand maybe 2 1/4 inches sand my son, and I went to a local dirt road grabbed crushed gravel and used his beach strainers for the sand lol we rinsed it white sand looks awesome I let the mud mixture sit wet for 48 hours before capping and adding water I topped a couple plants from a different tank grab some water spangles from a different tank added them with a good light put are betta in with a small filter oh yeah, I did seed it from an established set up it’s been 24 hours parameters are zero fingers crossed hopefully no ammonia Hope this helps. thank you father fish!

  • @Dj.98
    @Dj.98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Always deep substrate great fact

    • @moomoon1410
      @moomoon1410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And what does it exactly mean please?

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@moomoon1410up to 1 inch potting soil with plant supplements added into it and compost. Then covered up with 2 inches minimum of sand. Plants go in 1” deep and then the rest is history. Lots of videos on this channel explain everything in great depth

    • @moomoon1410
      @moomoon1410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryanrogers8211 thanks for the explanation!! Appreciated.

  • @enigma533
    @enigma533 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also not only deep substrate, but also bare bottom tank which is well cycled, Ammonia is fine

  • @BrodysBettas
    @BrodysBettas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yay, I made it in another @fatherfish video! Thanks!

  • @Jerbo99tv
    @Jerbo99tv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very interesting!!

  • @ChuaMartin
    @ChuaMartin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The lethality of ammonia depends on the pH of the water. Ammonia becomes lethal for fish when the pH goes up; but it seldom kills fish immediately. Chlorine is 1000x more lethal than ammonia.

    • @otallono
      @otallono 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ? The entire point of his ingredients added to the dirt is maintaining a high Ph to prevent acidic water. His words. My tap water even comes out at 8.2 so what then?

    • @ChuaMartin
      @ChuaMartin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@otallono When pH is high (> 8.5) ammonia becomes toxic; when pH is low (< 6.0) nitrite becomes very toxic. Fish hobbyists should not be obsessed with pH because it is not very important, because fish in the wild live in water that has pH varies from 6.5 to 8.5.
      Carbon dioxide is acidic. The level of carbon dioxide in an aquarium varies on an hourly basis. So it is just a very fruitless pursuit to try and achieve an “ideal” pH. And many think that fish must be kept in a very stable pH or temperature and that rapid changes are detrimental to the fish. This is yet another myth. So if your pH is below 8.5 you typically don't need to bring it down for most fish. Even black water Amazonian fish do well at anything lower than 8.5 pH. If you really want to bring down the pH, you can try to add RO water or distilled water in the store and add some salt back into the water; or use rainwater which is a perfect source of soft water.

  • @markpurdie7608
    @markpurdie7608 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Spot on !

  • @bigdaddyfoodcart5811
    @bigdaddyfoodcart5811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tnx father for sharing worries answerd❤❤❤

  • @andyrussell5177
    @andyrussell5177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm trying the natural tank. My dirt is Turing orange and my white sand has black streaks along the sides

    • @dwarfhernandez6636
      @dwarfhernandez6636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bacteria will change the soil,which is not bad. The deep substrate will eventually be anaerobic which is what is supposed to happen. Plant plants into just the sand layer until everything becomes balanced (about a years time).

  • @Exquailibur
    @Exquailibur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    never had issues with ammonia, early on my problems were mostly related to being unable to grow rooted plants as well as fish compatibility with my water perimeters. Turns out mollies are not possible to keep in my water without adding minerals in some way, other livebearers fair better but not well.
    The rooted plant issue eventually solved itself since i just happened to end up making a deep substrate, its about half gravel and half sand at about 4 inches so eventually it gathered enough nutrients that the Vallisneria that had been barely growing for 2 years took off.
    The only time I had an issue with disease was a mysterious cherry barb die off, out of 8 cherry barbs only one lived while the others died off over the course of a month for a reason I still am unsure of why since the cherry barbs where the only fish effected while the neons, gourami, the rams, and everything else didnt seem to be having any issues.

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you tried adding crushed up sea shells or coral to the bottom for minerals?

    • @Exquailibur
      @Exquailibur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ryanrogers8211 yeah i know about that now, its just i didn't at the time. I can keep just about any fish I want now but back in 2016 I didn't know anything. I would consider myself intermediate currently, I know how things work but its not like ive kept everything under the sun like some people and I still make mistakes with new species.
      My original 29 is still up and running, its beautiful, the scape is pretty bad but I've compensated with lush plants. I've also gotten over my cherry barb trauma and Im working on breeding them.
      Oh and if you are wondering what type of plants im into Bolbitis or african ferns are my favorite aquarium plant currently, its great for tall aquariums since it fills up space so well. Bolbitis ferns are like java fern on steroids in a way and I just love how it looks once it get growing. I also hate most stem plants since the trimming is a hassle and if you dont they look bad after a while.

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Exquailibur wow I’ll look into those ferns!

    • @Exquailibur
      @Exquailibur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ryanrogers8211 only downsides are they are slow growers and get big, also like java fern they cant have the rhizome berried but if planted so the roots can grow into the substrate on their own they will grow a lot faster. Great for breeding and the dark green colour stands out from other plants like amazon swords. id say a 9/10 plant, there are some downsides but mostly the same ones as java fern plus they get bigger so id suggest a large tank.

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Exquailibur ok some day when I get a 100+ gallon tank to set up with plants I’ll keep this plant to be part of it.

  • @573Freckles
    @573Freckles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for clarifying this. My FF tank is about 1 month old now. Everyone seems happy and even have a few babies already. Bought a bunch of your products and have been very pleased. Recently checked the levels and the ammonia was high and was searching for the answer. Thank you!!!

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plants are controlling the ammonia.

  • @joryalicabrera1830
    @joryalicabrera1830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved this one ….. another problem solved ❤

  • @Burnwarcrimetemple
    @Burnwarcrimetemple 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always do natuural and biological filteration in all of my tank both marine and freshwater

  • @bubblerings
    @bubblerings 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    New tanks with High PH water may have more problems, and should test water if fish are stressed.
    Test for Ammonia (just NH3), not Total Ammonia which includes Ammonium. There are vids on this PH issue.
    Cheers and blessings to Father Fish and all of you!

  • @annak2575
    @annak2575 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hence ghost feeding tanks.

  • @demodarv8466
    @demodarv8466 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’be been following you for a while now. My tank is fully planted but not dirtied, but it is a deep substrate. I’m going to start it again as a dirtied tank, I’m in the UK so can’t get your mix of goodness for the soil, what am I best putting in there to help the soil stay good.

  • @ronron14salanguit-po7jh
    @ronron14salanguit-po7jh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    FF, can i put freshwater mussels in my aquarium tank?

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      a few

  • @friedyoshiscat
    @friedyoshiscat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My tank is at .50ppm ammonia but normally switches between 0-.25ppm. I don’t know if that is an acceptable range?

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you have substantial plantings the ammonia will be taken up by plants.

    • @friedyoshiscat
      @friedyoshiscat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FatherFish I have a poly hygro, elodea, water wisteria, temple, bacopa and milfoil and still my ammonia is at .25ppm almost every day 🤦‍♂️

  • @mclovin2408
    @mclovin2408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some ammonia is healthy I agree, but if you have any you should always keep a close eye on it and try to know what the cause is, it’s not the presence of ammonia that worries me, it’s the source of it.

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We know the source… waste

    • @mclovin2408
      @mclovin2408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FatherFish but where is it? What kind of waste is it? Sometimes strange stuff can happen in an aquarium. I personally just like to stay on top of it even if it isn’t as dangerous as people think, it is good for my plants but it can easily spike if you make a mistake. It never hurts to be safe, but it does hurt to assume it will just be fine. If ammonia is one day zero and the next day it’s gone up still in safe levels but it went up, you need to find out the exact cause and fix it, once that’s done you can let it be for the most part. At the end of the day I think it’s more down to personal preference, I hate seeing my fish uncomfortable so I micromanage my tanks, and because I enjoy micromanaging them 🤣

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feeding your fish too much and not having enough plants are two of the main reasons

    • @mclovin2408
      @mclovin2408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FatherFish yeah I learned that the hard way once upon a time, but now I have a lot of plants and an under stocked tank so ammonia shouldn’t be an issue at all.

  • @confusedmango6557
    @confusedmango6557 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man how do you have Bettas living together

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They grew up together

  • @Michaelbuboire
    @Michaelbuboire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How in the heck are those bettas getting along-

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are shoal mates. doing fine. Siblings rarely more than squabble.

  • @enigma533
    @enigma533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100th comment... Thank you

  • @transcyberism1459
    @transcyberism1459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shallow substrate can be okay in a tank with a big filter and plenty of epiphytes (anubias and Java ferns) and floating/emersed plants that is well established, but it needs to be cycled very well

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Anythong is possible

  • @ACFLOORFITTING
    @ACFLOORFITTING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great stuff, but is it actually possible to set up a deep substrate tank with a tank already set up with small gravel and full of fish?

    • @ACFLOORFITTING
      @ACFLOORFITTING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I ask because I've tried about 4inches of sand on top, and plenty of material from the local brook, but I'm still seeing high ammonia. 😢

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You may need more plants and less nutrients.

    • @ACFLOORFITTING
      @ACFLOORFITTING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FatherFish so even without the layer of dirt etc under the sand, I could still get away with no water changes?

  • @beckyh9733
    @beckyh9733 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 4 day old newly planted FF tank, some leaf melt but when I decided to check ammonia, it comes in at 2.0; should I be concerned?

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not with enough plants

  • @Aquatic_Amigo
    @Aquatic_Amigo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ✌🏽

  • @TCgirl
    @TCgirl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How deep is deep?

  • @khomol
    @khomol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you get the water so clear? Mine always has a green tint.

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is your substrate?

  • @kasek4164
    @kasek4164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about nitrite? What’s the worry point when setting up?

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is none.

    • @kasek4164
      @kasek4164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@FatherFish think I need more plants then I’m getting some in 3 day old tank

    • @mauricematla8379
      @mauricematla8379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I set 50 MG/ltr. for myself. But in a not idioticlybstocked and fed tank with plenty of plants i actually have only seen it happen if something large died.... Heavily planted reasonably stocked carefully fed. Having too litle of it in your sytem is in mybexperience at least much more likely

  • @caminacolara6472
    @caminacolara6472 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stinky tank. Do as people in south east Asia. Remove gravel

  • @whitewolf5886
    @whitewolf5886 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm wanting to start a 32 gallon aquarium, with 5 flavatra claws...
    but I'm afraid, I don't know if I should start the cycle by incorporating them on the 2nd day after starting the cycle.
    or after a month and a half after cycling.
    .
    They informed me they should be introduced into an aquarium that is already mature...
    Father Fish, what would you do to start an aquarium with flavatra claws? I don't want to start this project and be disappointed with the loss of the fish so soon.

    • @whitewolf5886
      @whitewolf5886 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think I'll will what u said, to have 1inch of organic soil and 2 of sand or fine gravel.
      And start the cycle.
      I have the doubt of when and how many to introduce to the aquarium

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You need to learn how to do this. discord.gg/G4fkAE6qNw

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      garras can be sensitive. I would never introduce sensitive fish in a newe tank.

    • @whitewolf5886
      @whitewolf5886 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FatherFish thank you very much Fater ✨🤝✨

  • @Slawsers
    @Slawsers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ammonia burned some of my plants and caused me to waste money. I payed $150 for a bunch of buce and 90% of it died rhizome and all while other 10% buce survived with no leafs and took 3 months to even grow some leafs. My other plant speices all survived bought from the same company so remeber some plants can be sensitive to ammonia, once all the ammonia left my tank and all the ammonia cycled out it started growing, ive had the same problem with some foreground plants. Im guessing due to it being a small tank 10 gallons and the buce and rhizome plants plus floaters couldnt take in all the ammonia

    • @otallono
      @otallono 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      people only reply to the obvious things, but when someone has a real problem with the method you just hear crickets. This is why people are skeptical. Not because of their lack of understanding. Because of lack of answers.

    • @barry8692
      @barry8692 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that doesnt make sense

    • @Slawsers
      @Slawsers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@barry8692 how so? Some plants are more ammonia resistant then others, I had the proper setup to be growing buce yet 90% of it died not just melted died while I had all the hardy plants like anubias, java fern, moss, swords and floaters that slightly melted then thrived from adjustment. I tested the water researched if the lights were to much seen if i had excess nutrients all those were in check besides ammonia which shred my buce like acid

  • @FloodedWithGems
    @FloodedWithGems 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wild timing. I just stocked my 1st dirted/planted tank and my ammonia test was off the charts toxic. All my fish are fine though…thoughts?

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      no thoughts. Stop paying attention to chemical testing.

  • @yordyr7061
    @yordyr7061 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How much substrate makes for deep enough substrate in a 29 gal

    • @swearingian
      @swearingian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      FF rules states 1- 1 1/2inches dirt and 2 inches of sand

    • @shineOn_75
      @shineOn_75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1 inch dirt with a 2" to 2 1/2" sand cap.

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lots of ball parking here. 1" of mixed dirt and 2" of sand.

    • @BlakeCunningham-tm6tn
      @BlakeCunningham-tm6tn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And when you guys refer to dirt you mean organic dirt you can buy from home depo??

    • @shineOn_75
      @shineOn_75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BlakeCunningham-tm6tn watch this FF video to get the entire formula: th-cam.com/video/hR6lp78cr4k/w-d-xo.html

  • @Slawsers
    @Slawsers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would a deep substate tank of aquasoil or fluval stratum 3-6 inch have anymore benifits then a 1-2 inches

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no. stratum has little long term value

    • @Slawsers
      @Slawsers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@FatherFishok thanks

  • @blackdragonwolve8317
    @blackdragonwolve8317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ammonia can be deadly and completely wipe out 3/4ths of someones fish when they havent set up a proper cycle yet. What you described is the nitrogen cycle its what all good aquariums need. Substrate like sand especially if its deep can form ammonia pockets when first setting up a tank (because new tanks don't have a working cycle yet some ammonia hangs around) these ammonia pockets when the sand is stirred can be DEADLY to your aquarium, you know when your fishtanks cycle is complete when there is zero presence of ammonia. Be careful what you're teaching people because even some basic petstores will refuse to sell to you if you say you don't have a cycle already established in a tank

    • @shineOn_75
      @shineOn_75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True - for tanks that don't have a deep substrate.
      You don't understand a dirted tank with a deep substrate. Read up and watch some FF videos.

    • @blackdragonwolve8317
      @blackdragonwolve8317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@shineOn_75 I was talking about sand. I've run deep substrate dirt aquariums but I'm only talking about ammonia pockets that form in deep sand. When I was a beginner I was told things like this video and more than half my fish died sadly due to ammonia pockets. Nobody even told me about this and actively told me not to worry about it and then it became too late. I know now after a decade the truth is to use half dirt and half sand and not too deep on the sand in a new aquarium, I'm just trying to spread this knowledge and hope it catches on because I really needed it back then.

    • @shineOn_75
      @shineOn_75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@blackdragonwolve8317 Understood. I do remember in a previous video and I think it's a recent release where FF addresses this very subject. Come to his Discord channel. You'll get almost instant responses/answers and lots of discussion. I am sorry I missed your point earlier.

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ammonia does not form pockets. It breaks down instantly based on the bacteria in the substrate. Any ammonia released into the water column is absorbed by plants. Deep substrate and heavy planting convert ammonia very quickly.

    • @blackdragonwolve8317
      @blackdragonwolve8317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@FatherFish There were deadly gas pockets in my sand before though which killed my fish rather quickly when I went in with a gravel vacuum attached to a chop stick for stirring, I was told these were ammonia pockets but if they weren't what type of gas could it have been?

  • @ryanrogers8211
    @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    th-cam.com/video/XPB_GDg9qnk/w-d-xo.html
    This movie had me in tears. Stay on the narrow path of life with Jesus Christ ❤

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you mispost your comment?

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FatherFish no Sir, I wanted to share this movie with you. It’s a much needed depiction in this day and time.

  • @oskee305
    @oskee305 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    simple solution, stop feeding your fish!

    • @FatherFish
      @FatherFish  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      stop OVER feeding