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Is this the best neckline for your next sweater project?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Is the "staggered start" neckline shaping technique worth the hype? Here's a small pattern rundown that may have you itching to find out. Plus, I walk you through what to look for on Ravelry in order to find patterns that use this technique.
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Y’all, first of all I mistakenly typed Victoria when I meant Veronika Lindberg. 🥴
I'm super excited to knit my next sweater using the staggered start technique because I really do think there's something to the "better fit" argument...and there's really only one way to find out!
Also, I'll be going back to using studio lights more consistently. The weather has just been so inconsistent here lately that I simply cannot rely on the sun to provide me with even, natural light. ⛅
I know, this was me. -> 😯🙊🫣🤣
Ill second that. I am admiring the sweater all the time you sre talking. Thsnks for the info. I like v-neck sweaters and didn't realize they arent done with back short-rows. By the way, cast is an irregular verb. You do not add 'ed'. Cast is both future and past tense.
I’ve always wanted to mention casted, it drives me crazy! But otherwise, she is so beautifully literate, I didn’t want to mention it! I also cringe when someone says SKEEN instead of the correct SKANE, skein!
@@catofthecastle1681 pronunciation of that word is regional. Just because a pronunciation or even spelling is different that doesn't make it wrong. Different locations have different ways of speaking.
What is old is new again. See the Basic Design No. 1 - Classic Raglan Pullover of Barbara Walker’s Knitting from the Top. This was published in 1972. Ann Budd also uses this as her start for the Raglan in her third book in the “Handy Series,” The Knitter’s Handy Book of Top-Down Sweaters published 40 years later in 2012.
Was just coming here to say the same thing. :) This is the first top-down method I learned - from Barbara's book - and I loved the fit of everything I knit that way. Then I started knitting some of the super trendy top down raglans - this was in the late 00's, so we're talking the Wicked sweater, for example - and I was super annoyed by how they fit my neck and shoulders. All of them have a really wide, almost "portrait" neckline, and they ride up in front. At some point I went back to Walker's method. I've also used the short row method, and that works fine as well.
I'm knitting a raglan sweater right now from that book using the staggered shaping. It lays really nice across the shoulders.
I’m watching this video months after it was made, but I would like to suggest you look at the pattern Raglano. It is a pattern that utilizes a worksheet that you enter your gauge and such and the designer gives you the formula to knit your sweater. You can use this pattern to knit a sweater in any gauge and it also uses the staggered start method.
There are so many patterns written that way. One thing you didn't mention that is great about it is that you get 2 very sturdy "seams" at the collar, your cast on can be quite sturdy (like a long tail) and then you pick up and get to bind off and you can choose a not too loose bind off as well. There's less risks of a forever expending neckline.
Yes! Great point!
If you want a pretty basic pattern for lighter-weight yarns, Andrea Mowry's So Faded pullover starts this way. I made one years ago (that fits great), and recently used the neck shaping on it to modify another pattern.
Barbara Walker describes this method in her top down book.
Barbara Walker’s Knitting from the Top Down (first published 1972) is a great resource for the “staggered raglan neckline start”. I think contemporary patterns haven’t used this method as much because of the bigger open neckline styles. For a traditional closer fitting crew neck though worked from the top down this is the way to go for that front neckline drop that is essential for comfortable wearing.
I just got the cocknits sweater workshop book that contains all about this method well explained from the genius Julia Weisenberger. anyway..Absolutely lovely knitting patterns and so much useful info
I have this book and I need to revisit it! Julie is a knitwear genius. ❤️
I was coming to the comments to say the same thing. Cocoknits Sweater Workshop, aka English tailoring, is my very favorite shoulder construction.
This was so informative. I have been scared to try a v-neck construction, but now I think I will go for it. Thank you so much, I really do appreciate all of the knowledge you share!
I really enjoy your videos and even though I’ve knit for 20+ years, I always learn something.
That makes my day. Thank you!
I love your sweater you are wearing! I know we’ve seen it before, but it looks great on you!
Thank you so much! 😘
Hello from the UK 😊 Great to see you doing a video about ‘staggered start’. My favourite kind of construction as I can never quite get short rows right whatever method I use. In fact I’m knitting Bibliophile 2 at the moment!
Yup, polarizing. I staggered start is the bomb and the only way to go!
OMG! This is everything I have been trying to find on my own. Thank you! And I feel so much better knowing it's not me missing obvious
I’m so glad this was helpful Corrie!
Check out The Weekday Tee she uses the alternate neck shaping fit is good.
Tayler, you just continue to educate me. I'd not heard of this method of starting a sweater neckline this way. Thanks for sharing and introducing new techniques!
Super interesting! I think I’d really like the staggered start neckline, I need to hunt for a pattern. If it’s becoming popular perhaps Ravelry should look at making a specific category for this technique.
Curls and humidity are a dangerous combination! Add in static from trying on WIPs....😂 Fought with it all my life.
The struggle is real! It’s been over 20 years since I’ve had hair this long (🤯) and I’m still trying to figure this all out. 😂
Staggered start neckline is my favorite way to knit a neckline. I have actually changed a short row neckline to a staggered start for several sweaters. Also, I’ve been referencing your Improv: Basic Pattern for many years. I’m so glad I accidentally landed on your site today.
Exactly what I needed. What luck! Thanks.
I am knitting my second ever sweater right now called the Pure Fuzz by Skeindeer Knits, and was just admiring how pretty the neckline looks! Turns out, it’s using this method 🙂
You are amazing to watch. I keep learning so much from you. You continue to open up the world of knitting for me. I prefer learning things in the comfort of my home and space vs. knitting classes. Just finished the KAL and now understand in further depth what the next KAL will be providing. Wow! I feel so lucky to have found you. Thank you for all the time and devotion you provide to us.
V-neck sweaters are so flattering! Another great and very informative video! Thanks!
I think this is an important topic because its really about knitting exposure. "Shaped necklines" or "Shaping" the neck has been around for a very very long time. Its also most historically and most popular in other countries knitting flat pieced garments, shaping the neckline, shaping the arm holes sometimes and then simply seaming the garment. Its not a new method or concept its just not popular or as common in America. Its so much fun to learn and grow and evolve in knitting!
This is my favorite Ragland start. It just sits on the shoulders so well.
I learned a lot. Thank you !!
My pleasure! Glad this was informative Paula! ❤️
I just finished making my first raglan sweater using short rows at the back and found it a wee bit complicated 🥴, so this method (which I never knew existed!) is very interesting!!!!!
Thanks for sharing.
The second sweater I ever knit used the staggered start method, it was the Vanilla Fluff (also Vanilla Sweater) by Corinne Tomlinson.
I happened upon this fabulous method of knitting a sweater with the Bas-Relief Pullover by Turquoise Toque Designs. I saw it available as a test knit, threw myself into it, and found the process mesmerizing! If Ravelry did offer an official filter for the staggered start, I would absolutely use it.
I've knit the Autumn League Pullover 3 times and can confirm there are no short rows. The updated version of the pattern includes instructions for knitting the body in the round as the original was knit flat and seamed.
Ahhhh ok. Thank you so much for clarifying that! ❤️
This is so useful. I'm a fairly new knitter and want to make a top down sweater but prefer a vee neck.
Thanks for all this info on differences in neck shaping and for the info on how to search for patterns in Ravelry. Keep the info coming.
Just love construction content😊. Thanks for another great video!
GM Taylor
Thank you fir showing all these different patterns 🥰
I am just about done my Autumn League Pullover
My very first sweater top down and working in the round and love this construction
I like the men patterns also fir my hubby
Your great with all you show us ❤❤❤it
Thanks again and have a great day!!😊
I am working on Stripey Flannel by Alicia Plummer which uses this neckline method. I just checked her rav patterns and she uses that technique with the majority of her pullovers.
I always appreciate your careful research, Taylor!
Hi Tayler. I knitted the Autum League Pullover last year and LOVE it. I can’t remember it being staggered start but then I can’t really remember short rows either. 😂😂
I recently finished the Autumn League Pullover. LOVE the fit! I can't wait to make it again.
Ive made at least 4 Two of Wands sweaters, bar none, some of the best patterns around and the autumn and winter sweaters are just amazing and I agree, such a great fit. Thanks for the pattern suggestions and the tutuorial, again, on how to use Ravelry to get those results!
There is a pattern I’ve done called the “Daily Ritual Raglan” and it’s done with the staggered start. It is available on ravelry by Park Williams. I really enjoyed knitting the pattern.
I am currently knitting the Cosmo sweater 😆 Entirely missed the WS stitch reversal for the flat section until I'd already done a chart of the round but I'm just embracing it because I couldn't face the thought of frogging and starting again!
I’ve knit the Autumn League pullover. It was awesome as a first sweater pattern!
I just finished a test knit for Kolibri by Johanna, a sweater using this technique! First time ever doing this and I really love the result!!
The caramel color in your sweater is very flattering on you. Beautiful garment (and creator).
Thank you! That is such a nice thing to say. ❤
I just finished knitting the roadtripper tee by Ozetta, and it uses this method! It was my first time using this method and it was so fun and interesting to knit up! I'd recommend the pattern as well 😊
Thank you, I don't like the "normal" short row option to make the neckline in the round. I say that bc the Flare sweater by Veera Valimaki is a completely different construction using short rows in the round to build up the neckline, which has a lovely shape.
Currently working on a sweater build this way. Love the neck line it forms. ❤
The incredible custom knit raglan by Pamela Costello. You do the math based on your gauge to get your cast on numbers. Been using it for years! And it’s free
Would love an equivalent video on contiguous construction!
I was wondering how the v neck sweaters were created. And columnus is one I’ve been eyeing!😅
I loved your video, you are a sensational person, greetings from Mexico City.
Wow, thank you! Welcome to the channel! ❤️
You are just the best! I look forward to your podcasts, each one holds some new information for me! I’ve noticed you have a dressmakers mannequin. Since I live in Texas & my daughter & 2 grown granddaughters live in Massachusetts I wonder if investing in one would make fitting all the things I knit them easier? Could you give me advice on whether to go for a more costly adjustable one or can I benefit from one more budget friendly? The 3 are nearly the same size but very different body shape. I’m slinking into my 80’s but expect to knit till at least 100! Looking forward to your advice❣️Thanks for being my knit companion ever since my wonderful yarn store closed due to Covid.
The Nuuk by Jonna Hietala is a beautiful t-shirt pattern knit this way, I was working on it while watching this video lol
Thank you Tayler this was so interesting. Love the video.
Yet another technique: Yarnspirations published a TH-cam video by Mary Beth Temple about 3 years ago. Cast on the back and shoulders, work for several rows, and then cast on the front stitches. Seems pretty straightforward.
Beginner here. What is the difference between this construction and the short-row shaping? I only made one raglan sweater, and it looked like the construction you are showing here. It was the Little Cable Raglan by Andrea Yetman, which is FREE and SO cute.
If I understand how you described it, I just finished a Leontis Sweater by Pascuali Designs that uses a staggered start and it was perfect for me. I also added 3 inches of short row shaping to the bottom of the back panel before the ribbing and now I know a perfect template for sweaters for myself.
Yep. This is definitely a staggered start. What a great sweater! And way to go on modifying with the short rows at the bottom back!
@@WOOLNEEDLESHANDS it was one of those patterns that pulled me in and jumped to the top of my priorities when I found it, and I knit the whole thing in 13 days 😅 I also used filcolana arwetta sock yarn instead of what the pattern calls for, and a size larger needles for a slightly looser fit that I can wear a thin long sleeve shirt under. I think it worked out great! Now that it's done I'm finally getting on board with your last Patreon KAL, I'm doing a sweater in fishermans wool for that!
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My pleasure. Thank YOU. ❤️
I’m working on the Autumn League Pullover as I watch this.
Lots of great info! Many thanks.
Any thoughts on incorporating this method into all of the sweaters that are out there currently using the short row method? I also dislike the short row method for top down sweaters. For me, the sweater always ends up sliding down my back and choking me which forces me to constantly tug and adjust the way the sweater sits on my shoulders. Another issue is that so many of the short row sweaters have such huge necklines that are not really that comfortable or attractive. PS - love what you're doing!
Tayler- a correction about your Stype Hype sweater. The designer is Veronika Lindberg, not Victoria Lundberg
Ahhh! Yes of course! How did I not catch that. Ugh. Wow. Thank you! 🥴
Great podcast thank you
I love the sweater you are wearing in this video. Did you put what it is in the links? I’m really enjoying your channel.
I believe the pattern Moody Judy by Drops Garnstudio uses this technique.
I just had a look at the pattern and it doesn’t seem to be.
This is a great video! I had never heard of "staggered start" as a way to shape a neckline. As a 64-year-old, I am especially interested in this and only knew of the short row technique. Is this also good for a dowager's hump? (By the way, the word is "cast", not "casted". Casted is not a word and cast is already past tense.)
Interesting. I am knitting a pattern from Pickles with a V neck and German short row turns on a complete neck cast on. The turns are further along on each row until the centre front is reached.
Interesting! What is the name of the pattern?
@@WOOLNEEDLESHANDS Sun Set. It is my first top down and first GSR pattern, and I haven't knitted in probably 20 years. I'm struggling. 🤣
Interesting. Wonder why round yokes wher not mentioned, bc this method is not unique to raglans.
Then it works with shortrows too, sometimes I knit the edge, neckrib, first in a ring and then I do this kind of "knitting in the flat" on that ring, it also works.
It's kind of ironic that as I watch this podcast I'm working on short row neck shaping 😂
Not at all! I just finished designing a sweater with that very shaping. 😉
Another great pattern that uses this method is Anne Ventzel’s Spot Sweater. One issue that I have is that the body stitches rely on increasing the raglan stitches. Do you know if there is a way to make the body larger without make the raglan so extended?
I am pretty sure the ravelry search terms are “AND” not “OR” so be careful ticking so many as you basically said you want a pattern that includes ALL of those things, which will limit your results quite significantly.
I only knit continuous construction or v neck sweaters so I’ve never done short row shaping at the back before 😂. But figured I’d watch anyways.
Well in this case, I did want ALL of those things to be considered so I could narrow things down as much as possible. I wanted top down, in the round, seamless, raglan pullover sweaters that are knit. 😅
I'm knitting the Flax sweater as a sock yarn scrappy. It has the German short rows at the bottom of the yoke? What is the benefit of this?
Is every rectangle start a staggard start? Thank u great vid
Ms Taylor I’d like to ask a question needing a cardigan from the bottom up. How would you put the sleeves in start the sleeves could you please let me know thank you have a pleasant.
Sooooo looking forward to not doing short rows. 😅😆
Thanks Taylor-any idea how I might figure out deepening the front neckline other than trial and error? When I knit a top down short row raglan I’ve begun to add a few more pairs of shortrows depending on yarn weight and row gauge. Your thoughts? (I did knit the Jaiden last winter for my husband 👍🏻👍🏻)
Have a look at Barbara Walker’s sweater book. She explains this neckline.
Would Anne Ventzel spot sweater be and example of staggered start?
Why do you think you can't do short row shaping on a vneck raglan? (You can if you want it's just not often necessary, and fyi cumulus doesn't use them, but I honestly want to know why you think it's not possible. ie no sarcasm intended, actual question)
I read your question before I watched the video. I believe what she meant is that a v-neck is not created simply by doing short rows. There is more to it. I don't think she meant you can't use short rows on a v-neck sweater. But I'm not an experienced sweater knitter...so maybe someone else will have a more detailed answer. Lol
So you cannot use short rows alone to create a v-neck shaped collar. There is a maximum number of short rows you can add before the fabric buckles. This is why short rows are typically used to shape crewnecks. Here’s a great video that explains this: th-cam.com/video/cmw4sMG-JdQ/w-d-xo.html
Uhh, I'd love to participate in that KAL - but I cannot see it on the Patreon. Do i have to be a paying member to see it?
Can starting flat then swapping to in the round cause gauge or tension issues?
That largely depends on the pattern used. Flat stockinette stitch, no issues. Cable patterns and other tight patterns? Issues.
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I'm making one of these sweaters! Easy V by Caitlin Hunter starts like this. 😊