How to Replace filter capacitors Dynaco PAS 3 Tube type Preamp amplifier D-lab Electronics

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  • Step by step procedure for the Dynaco PAS series tube preamp, utilizing the SDS Audio Labs Capacitor replacement board. Sometimes when you do this type work, modern components may be necessary. Others may have a difference of opinion. However, do as you see fit. The Dynaco's are sought after, great performers, well worth the effort of restoration. Taking a little poke at the social responses on TH-cam. Hope this is of value to you.
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  • @74dartman13
    @74dartman13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job as always Terry. I always learn something from your videos!

  • @orresearch007
    @orresearch007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing, I have a Beckman 310 exactly the one on your desk, and I used it when I was restoring my PAS a few years ago. Your video is detailed and excellent.

  • @allanjohnston8049
    @allanjohnston8049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have such an awesome way of making a repair look so easy!!!
    I know how to solder etc but knowing the right type of repair is so important
    You amaze me every time I see you in operation
    You make it look so easy
    Thanks for another great video!!

  • @keithnelson5605
    @keithnelson5605 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw that on the shelf about a week ago. Glad you made a video. I have one waiting for some love.

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore7785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That unit is in amazing condition, inside and out.

  • @barrychristiansen4579
    @barrychristiansen4579 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cool work Terry . well done @! Cheers!

  • @joeyvanostrand3655
    @joeyvanostrand3655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a kick ass set of Dynaco speakers. 2 2-10's and 2 1-8's w/ a tweeter. They are wonderful!

  • @jjiacobucci
    @jjiacobucci 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome demonstration, Terry!

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Great project, more to do before the final test

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video as always. I've updated a few Dynaco Pre-amps with parts from a place called UpdateMy Dynaco. I haven't restored my tube preamp yet. Too many irons in the fire for now. 73 NE5U Mike

  • @jcmcclain57
    @jcmcclain57 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Terry, thank you for the detail and explanations in this and your other instructional videos. Good job! 👍👍

  • @garysmith8455
    @garysmith8455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I kept ALL my Dynaco gear.... PAS-2 (those same original tubes still there too!) with all new caps and elimination of the selenium rectifier. Mark 3 amps have all new caps including quad cap with 650v. rating and new diode rectifier for filaments... All made at the factory assembled in 1965 as stamped by the same tech... These run into a pair of 1967 Klipschorns (UNaltered)... Heck of a sound considering the year.... (O:

    • @swinde
      @swinde 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You bastard ... I had four of the Dynaco Mark III amps, three Kits I built and one factory assembled. I foolishly traded them in for later models of Marantz equipment. The Marantz stuff still works great with some TLC from me, a tech, but I wish I had kept them. I still have a Dynakit PAT-4 and a Stereo 120, but I miss the tube amps.

  • @georgethomas9436
    @georgethomas9436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great how to video. I like it how you showed how to use upgrades. Again love your channel. Well worth subscibing.

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you my friend. Hopefully more this weekend

  • @johnbellas490
    @johnbellas490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those PAS units were real nice!! Had one myself and it was hooked up to 2 EICO 50 WATT amps with the EL34 output tubes.It was a real good system, wished I still had it today, but sold it about 20 years ago! John Bellas KC2UVN

  • @kane100574
    @kane100574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, man! I love your channel!

  • @edvaioli7340
    @edvaioli7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next PAS you do make sure to video. The board has been redesigned for right side up mounting and elimination of the rectifier tube if desired. Also no instruction sheet is included.

  • @crbielert
    @crbielert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 of these on my bench right now.

  • @LOLAAUM
    @LOLAAUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video!
    Thanks to you, I have done this upgrade and for the most part, everything is functioning properly.
    But now I have audible hum (which I did have before upgrade but it was very slight).
    Only connection is preamp to power amp. Not affected by volume. I don't experience it with other preamps that I have.
    Thanks in advance for any insight!

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If their board is priced competitively, it's a good solution. I'm sure you could also do the job manually with generic caps and fuse parts.

  • @willrobbinson1
    @willrobbinson1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Replacing the selenium rec with silicon is a must BUT it may increase the heater volts on tubes without correcting

  • @timothyharris7017
    @timothyharris7017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    terry you rock man........love your video........

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This certainly a very nice example of a PAS pre, looks almost new!!

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good thing Dynaco used the A instead of an O in that model, the reputation may have suffered

    • @RobertKohut
      @RobertKohut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL...too true!!

  • @harryconover289
    @harryconover289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you mount the replacement supply board I recommend a foam insulation tape on the chassis and have the board seal on that it would be a much stronger assembly one Screw mount for that size board is marginal at best by adding the support below it makes it easier to do and stronger to

  • @zipstuff
    @zipstuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Question, you did not show the wiring on how to get power to the board? Can you share how that was accomplished?

  • @jordanch68
    @jordanch68 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to get one of those boards from SDS for my PAS2. :)

  • @Dutchamp
    @Dutchamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terry, I admire your repair work. Real good work., but I have a little comment on one thing, I think your a more RF repair guy, no offense ment what criticism I make.
    I see you ground parts and wires where ever you can, normally and especially in RF it is required, a must have course of ossilation problems. But in audio it can be tricky try to lead all ground to a star point or even better to the input ground terminal. Then you never get 60hz hummm. I ones took a ground from point to point a lead from 2" underneath a pcb board and the Amp was bussing loud in my case 50hz (Holland) that's what I wanted to say.
    The rest you do top work I like it a lot.

  • @kanuckbrewero6118
    @kanuckbrewero6118 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work on the project. I see the new board uses 5% resistors.

  • @richardweinberger6302
    @richardweinberger6302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why did they put the fuse on the bottom?

  • @TheGalaxyhopper
    @TheGalaxyhopper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you rock, big daddy, you had me toe tappin, friend'

  • @treed873
    @treed873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what happens if you blow that fuse? Wouldn't have been better to mount that board right side up?

  • @kenhancock8931
    @kenhancock8931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first cheers terry ;-) thx 4 tha video

  • @gerardcarriera7052
    @gerardcarriera7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Years ago, my Dad gave me his PAS-3 as well as his ST-70. I have not been able to use it as the dual 750K balance control pot is seized and he broke it trying to use a pair of pliers trying to free it. I have searched everywhere and cannot find a replacement. Any ideas as to where I can find one? I replaced for him that exact same filter can back in '74 as the same thing happened. At the time, I got the same multisection one cheap. Of course if I can ever find that pot, I will install that new board.

  • @8xlaxx
    @8xlaxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a PAS -3X ?,....as I see the small black caps coming up to the tone controls from the board. Very nice! You should do an Eico vs Dynaco shootout!

  • @MikeTheGreatOne99
    @MikeTheGreatOne99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dammit your awesome!!

  • @scottonnob
    @scottonnob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instead of 13 ohms, I'm getting 7. Is something wrong? I don't want to put power to it if there's a problem.

  • @edvaioli7340
    @edvaioli7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, Terry. To be clear, does the board come populated or do I have to provide my own components? Thank you.

  • @TheCondoInRedondo
    @TheCondoInRedondo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait. That was you. I saw your lips move when the troll was talking.

  • @robertporter1429
    @robertporter1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Help Y'all - I just purchased and received a new SDS Pas Kit....one BIG question...there are 4 "diodes" in my kit...All the videos I see from Terry and others show this PAS kit exactly as I have BUT...his version clearly does not have any Diodes....I'm not totally smart about this...but can anyone explain what AND why they now send U the 4 diodes?? Many Thanks!!!!!!!!

  • @jefffree6990
    @jefffree6990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Terry! But Dick from the internet is saying He woulda left the original can in, for vintage cosmetics sake. What prevented the new board from being flipped to a more normal and convenient orientation?

  • @waynepollard6879
    @waynepollard6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see the work !

  • @kylenovak97
    @kylenovak97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m installing this exact same kit. I have a PAS2. My board is about 50% stuffed. I’m a solder newbie. The resistors I could bend the leads taught and then solder. The 4 large caps didn’t have much lead/prong to work with. They were short. I was a little queasy to have the 4 largest caps held in place by only solder. Am I just a worry wart? 🤖☠️

  • @zurdoremi
    @zurdoremi ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, do you.only work on amplifiers?? No Linear Tracking tturntables?? Thanks

  • @lawrencehudlin
    @lawrencehudlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video... and it's a thumbs up from me for sure...BUT... I would have left the large filter cap in place, snipped all wires and leave it covering that hole now left behind. And the fuse and holder would have to be moved from the top of the board to the bottom side facing up for easy access should it ever blow.

    • @dhpbear2
      @dhpbear2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would've flip the capacitor board so the components were on the top.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!! Glad I didn't 'Pas' on this vid!! Is this for your Dynaco mono blocks?

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This PAS is for a friends Dynaco set. I run a homebrew tube pre-amp on mine. Better that you watched the PAS rather that letting it blow in the wind!

  • @edvaioli7340
    @edvaioli7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered and received a board but not instructions with it, Do you have a link to yours?

  • @rciancia
    @rciancia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really nice job Terry. That board is perfect and is the only way to do it. Glad you sent Dick from the internet packing.... the motto for those who post TH-cam comments... don't be dick. Nice job as usual... Ron

  • @roberthurless4615
    @roberthurless4615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good vid, However, I noticed that the wire hole did not have a rubber grommet in it. Did that concern you at all? Also, at the start of the vid, what is that piece of gear behind the Dynaco? An old O'scope perhaps?

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, That instrument is my Wavetek audio generator.

  • @gonzo11213
    @gonzo11213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there, this is a great video! Thanks for that. I have what I believe is a PAS 3. The problem is when I turn it on, it does power up, the 12ax7's are very low but do light, the 12x4 is nice and bright...but no sound, through my Marantz. I tested the two transformer leads to the 12x4 with the AC side while plugged in, and nothing registers on my meter. There also is a weird low level crackling sound coming from the transformer, weird glue smell, but no smoke. The caps are original with no visible leakage. What is your assessment and thanks for saving my butt with this video by the way.

    • @swinde
      @swinde 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am going to go out on a limb and speculate that you have a bad power transformer. Be sure to add a fuse on the primary side.

    • @gonzo11213
      @gonzo11213 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swinde Right on! I did end up purchasing a new transformer, haven't put it in yet, the fuse is next then possibly a couple of tubes and the power supply caps there isn't any leakage but I may just change em out just to be safe not ro hurt the transformer.

    • @Barracuda48082
      @Barracuda48082 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A decent capacitor checker with value readout would help..

  • @motorheadbanger7720
    @motorheadbanger7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did not they include no fuse at all back in time?

  • @xmenken1
    @xmenken1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much did you charge for this pre-amp upgrade?

  • @dhpbear2
    @dhpbear2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    07:35 - HOLD IT! That sounded like many empty BEER CANS! Are you a 'closet' beer drinker, Terry? :)

    • @d-labelectronics
      @d-labelectronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, you caught that! Well, my wife only drinks beer out of a bottle, so I used La-criox sparkling water cans. Wanted some type of crash during the troll's forced exit. Maybe next time I will try a stack of bottles. TD

  • @Barracuda48082
    @Barracuda48082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nine thumbs down? Wth
    You are local to me..less postal. I have a fellow ham I gave a hb100, 200 10-80 m set to re cap..he could use some help..He has had it for a year but still not on the air..
    Kd8tbc Lee . He is on the Hazel Park 2m net 6.640 on Sunday. There is a echolink also. Surprise him..ha.
    73, KB8QLZ Gary

  • @remley8877
    @remley8877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool video as always. Totally wish i had chosen " Dick from the internet" for my TH-cam name. I'm still laughing at that.

  • @soupalex
    @soupalex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    [looking at the scope] so all in all, that's a really good _sine…_

    • @soupalex
      @soupalex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i must be the first person in the history of the world to make or notice a sign/sine gag when sending a test signal through an audio amplifier /s

  • @dhpbear2
    @dhpbear2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting that Dynaco had 2 different styles for this preamp (07:35)

    • @swinde
      @swinde 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the smaller picture is the PAS-2 which I think is very similar except for the new front panel and knobs.

    • @zulumax1
      @zulumax1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other one is a PAS-2 which had a different fascia and plastic knobs, other than that same innerds. Not sure if they were both were made at the same time, I think it was a cosmetic update.

  • @raimondoconcepcion6142
    @raimondoconcepcion6142 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey anyway or form of contacting you personally. Maybe an email or phone number. Interested with your videos.

  • @andershammer9307
    @andershammer9307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't change the tubes ! Unless you want to spend a ton of money on audiophile approved tubes. Those original tubes were Telefunkens and they last forever.

    • @FluxCondenser
      @FluxCondenser 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original tubes are all shot on the one I’m restoring now. Preamp must have gotten plenty of use so I’ll be replacing them.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice upgrade, thanks for sharing... hmmm dick on the internet.. I've seen those.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always referred to the PAS series as the "Piece A Sh*t" series by Dynaco. I mean no disrespect at all to your video, it's just that I've owned two of them, and they sound truly horrific. The best adjective I can use to describe the way they sound is "woolly"....no high end whatsoever

  • @johnsimms3957
    @johnsimms3957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah get rid of those old filer caps.

  • @edvaioli7340
    @edvaioli7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, I can't recommend this board. Board is poorly marked with zero documentation. look elsewhere.