I've always liked these because they skirt the border between being understandable and being distorted by the radio. I feel like a lot of radios in games and movies are often too clear and easy to understand. They feel like tv programs as a result. These sound a lot more authentic.
That jack-in-the-box of the turret was scary to watch. The ammunition exploded outright. Blow-out panels failed. Their (Nihilanth's) air force is powerful when they engage air-ground.
This is one of the elements that the Black Mesa team just nailed perfectly. In the original Half-Life you didn't get much indication how bad things were going for the HECU, but they pull out anyways, rapidly. In Black Mesa you really understand how bad things are going for the HECU. The Xen aliens really start overwhelming them, their conventional weaponry isn't enough, and by the time they decide to Forget about Freeman, it's clear they've taken too many losses and are desperately trying to withdraw.
@@Brown-streak_studios Well, freeman was there when the whole ordeal started. In a way he was responsible for the incident, and considering no-one had any idea what was happening - well, in the eyes of HECU he was a possible alien sympathizer, or simply a person that is able to make it worse
0:57 that gave chills, imagine being one of the HECU and you hear your teammates shouting like that on the other side while you dont know is the end of the world
The Manta's power is horryfying. The M1A1 succesfully cooked off and blew up in ~1 second or so. It's scary. Even the blow-off panels failed. That Jack-in-the-box was scary to watch if you think about how might it have looked in real life.
@@voxel8960fr in this game the depiction of things can be very limited or tad cheesy but irl it wouldve been a hundred times more terrifying to actually see it happen not even fucking tanks and air vehicles can stop the nihilanth's hordes lol
Don't forget they're just marines, the government told them the scientist caused the resonance cascade on purpose. They were just average guys doing their jobs
Additionally, these guys are fighting all sorts of messed up creatures from whatever hell hole of a universe they came from. Theyre being vaporised, crushed, shot, eaten, abducted, burned and impaled. No wonder theyre scared
I am a big fan of the H.E.C.U but... I hate the ninja jerks (Black ops)I think the bms team should have made the hecu the good guys and ninja jerks the bad guys like Opposing force.
Calling the LAV-25 for backup in helipad 0:00 Freeman spotted.Preparing to snipe 0:30 Xen's Attack on the Abrams 0:49 Defending Launchpad from freeman 1:02 The injured Marine's final call 1:10 Forget about Freeman 1:53 Needing Ariel support 2:05
Apple User 2 What sells it is the tone. The guy sounds like he’s going into shock from his injuries and the sad part is he probably died from it before anyone could even find it. There’s no “sarge is dead, private milleni is dead, etc.” it’s just this poor guy, probably a recruit even, who got taken by surprise and is slowly dying from his injuries
@@someworkthings7311 actually, freeman only hit about 1% of the soldiers that were deployed he barely did anything to them, you can also see in some battles where if you don't even engage at all, they still manage to fail just the same
1:54 Now that’s a scary line right there. They’ve been spending pretty much the whole game going after a random scientist with a crowbar killing all of their guys, and now they’re saying that they need to retreat. Just shows how much shit was going sideways. (Please note: I never played the first Half-Life.)
you really should play HL1 when you get the time. there's quite a few interesting thing to compare between the two games. whether it's how the guns act/feel. to how the levels are structured.
I couldn't help but think about these guys while I was in the Marines (2012-2015). It's weird looking at how the situation played out once you've actually been in. Granted I was a tanker on M1a1s, there's still some things you learn about once you've worked with guys from other MOSs. The whole gun everyone down thing is a sortve hand wave IMO. The government knew about Black Mesa as did the HECU so it seems odd they'd employ people only to turn around and just gun em down. In the newest iteration it's even said on a billboard that Black Mesa hires people from different countries as well so there's a good chance other big wigs from those respective countries knew WHAT Black Mesa was (but probably not the fullest extent of what sortve testing was going on. In the old Blue Shift booklet it's implied that Black Mesa knew who the HECU were as well and there's even talk about contingencies, this means the HECU would've had to have trained there or ran rehearsals much like how MSG or FAST teams do with our embassies abroad. Consider how quickly they were able to take over the PA system and lock down key areas, that takes a sense of coordination and direction thoroughly rehearsed. The general public probably knew what Black Mesa was as well but probably not the extent of what went on over there. It'd be no different than people working high security clearance oriented jobs in any facility, you don't see them spilling the beans everywhere. But back on point, gunning down everyone including janitors and people working in who knows what menial department is just silly tbh lol and for what? They saw an alien? That's why I never understood the orders and doubly so now that I've been in and got out. Was it the government's fault the Cascade happened? Did they tell Breen to go overboard on the procedure? We don't know and truth be told were it so crucial to be a secret wouldn't it have been better to just send the black ops only? You know, guys trained to stay tight lipped? Expecting an entire Marine CBRN unit and dozens of other supporting units to stay quiet is just silly and even more so when the Black ops turn on the Marines. You'd be hard pressed to tell SEALs or any normal SOG to just open up on their fellow U.S. troops. They sent probably what amounted to an entire Marine expeditionary unit in. There's no way in hell you can keep ALL of them.quiet. What were they just gonna kill em upon RTB? An entire MEUs worth of Marine families suddenly get the word their husband died back at base? Pilots...tankers....all of em lol. The word about aliens was gonna get leaked out, there's no way in hell they could silence that reasonably. As for Freeman, truth be told we'd be more interested in getting him and figuring out how/if he caused the cascade and if he knew how to fix it. Any interrogation etc would come later after the situation had been stabilized. Do bare in mind he did come up the elevator heavily armed and in an armored suit. We re not trained to open up on everything that looks weird, but after seeing aliens n shit there's a good chance someone fucked up orders. Sorry for the wall of text, all in all the game universe is great but there's alot of loose ends or decisions made that make no sense and as a vet it feels so off putting gunning down entire squads of virtual "Marines" (they left their own behind, we would NEVER do that) over a situation that shouldn't and wouldn't have been handled like that.
Okay, so my understanding is this: The G-Man gave Mesa the Crystal that caused the cascade. In Opposing force, The marines mention training for an operation at Black Mesa, so my guess was they knew something would happen, but not what would which can explain why they got their asses kicked so bad. Plus it was probably a small task force that had reinforcements pour in slowly explain why they couldn't hold for very long. Plus the combine invasion complicated things afterwards
Amen to that, back then and today, I never got the "kill all witnesses" trope or plot handwavium thing. It's not really realistic and only really works in a movie or video game setting in my eyes. It is simply too flawed to me if I consider various aspects, many that you listed, too.
Thank you for your insight. I've always been fascinated by breakdowns of film/video game fictional/nonfictional military units given by current and former servicemen. They almost always provide a gem of knowledge and even when they don't, they're still fun to read regardless. Upon reading your comment, I became curious as to whether or not a dedicated a dedicated CBRN unit existed within the USMC. Lo and behold, I came across the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Biological_Incident_Response_Force ). Interesting stuff.
@FNGof2010 Amen to that. For years or over a decade I've been fascinated by such radio chatter or announcements (e.g. Deus Ex 2 local announcements of various kinds, from ads to warnings) from various games, like Doom 3, FEAR (Replicas), the HL series from HECU to Combine (OW/CP) radio chatter, from radio chatter in mods for those games, etc. It's fascinating and usually always adds to immersion while serving a purpose, of course.
The HECU was trained for CQB in the labs, and were only trained to fight mindless Xen creatures like Headcrabs and maybe Vorts. The straight up alien invasion was not planned for, and they weren't armed to fight a ground war outside of the Black Mesa facility.
you said they werent armed for ground war yet they had apaches , f-16 , m1 abrams , lav and bradleys , none of those vehicles were to enter the labs , they were more than equiped for ground war
I'm pretty certain they did in the original Half Life. Although, my memory also tells me there was more than one story such as Barney Calhoun and Adrian Shepherd. I'm not sure if their stories got the same treatment as Gordon's did but I would like to see if it did. This, of course, assuming I remembered things correctly; however, my memory is often unreliable so who knows?
Despite the unnecessary killings they were doing inside, i feel like the surface marines were just fighting their war, i felt bad for the IFAK guy and the Abrams crew.
@@metalc.s3170 the medics do however i belive the amount dropped is based on how many have been used to heal other marines. if more than 2 or 3 then i belive they don't drop any. i am unsure if it is affected by difficulty though.
They did mention in the start up about comm. systems. Sad they never sought the opportunity to hear your colleagues die and you would be more motivated to kill HECU/Alien
@@cj-3810 yeah It would have been interesting to hear security radio chatter towards the start of the game and listen as it goes to hell or hear scientists inform others via radio about things like hecu or Gordon's progress.
@@charple_ it would also make excellent world building too! i could imagine 2 soldiers over the radio expressing how they're not gonna make it out of the facility, even if an evac team comes to save them, so they just disable their radios and it's left up to your mind to imagine their fates
Yes, they were SEVERELY outnumbered. Black Mesa shows that even better then the original - grunts manage to take down aliens all the time, but there's just more and more teleporting. It's an entire dimension agaisnt like, few batallions of troops. Xenians would just throw a wall of meat at HECU.
+xxx xxx it's not just that they where outnumbered. the HECU was up against alien grunts. the homing projectile means no cover, they're stronger and can take more damage, and had no front line. Add the fact that they are manufactured, meaning you don't need an entire dimension, just a few assembly lines and time, and they where outnumbered, and outgunned by an enemy they would never have been able to train for, and they stood no chance. The only reason they took over black mesa by OAR is because there was a lull during which time nihilanth was likely preparing. once the counter-attack was launched, the HECU where driven off the base in a few hours. And that's not the worst part; Vorts can send back information up until the moment they die, so the initial attack was just a scouting mission. the nihilanth had enough info to know the weakest points to strike. The HECU weren't even able to make a coordinated effort to fight back. toward the end of surface tension, it really does feel like the end of the word. Humanity's feeble attempt to fend of an enemy that has every imaginable upper hand.
There is only the point of "they have no frontline" statement. And that really is very grim situation indeed, as if you can't not only form a line of defense, but all the entranchments and hardpoints also being rendered useless against the enemy that can teleport. It's even more evident in Black Mesa then the original game, when you can see damn xenians ambush armored convoys in tunnels and overcome heavilly entranched positions that would otherwise stop hundreds of them, if they'd attack it upfront. I wonder why xenians even bothered to send troops rather then teleport bombs everywhere. However, in any other element other then mobility, HECU had an upper hand. Their "bee guns" are quite pathetic in both game mechanics (players chose MP5s over them in multiplayer all the time) and even more "lore-wise". Guns have much greater kinetic power, than those things, and "bees" are slow. It seems that they must have some kind of instant poison to do damage at all, because you really can't "bite" hard enough to kill a person. Anyway it's ain't that hard to protect from such things (HEV suits should be immune to those at all, lore-wise), and they are useless against armored vehicles. And in fact the size of alien grunts make them easier targets. The fact they can suffer more damage only comes to play in a really close-quarters (VERY close - I mean, hand-to-hand close) combat situations. Actually, HECU guys win against those all the time in original HL1 (at least, game-mechanics wise), especially those armed with grenade launchers. In Black Mesa, HECU wins most of the time at distance, but they get killed if Agrunts come up close (and in BM they programmed to "rush" to close quarters). Manta rays are pathetic kind of air support, since they can only shoot their "lasers" in 90 degree angle, and at very short distances. Modern military engagements mostly have ranges in few miles or so. Jet fighters should have really easy time taking those down from stand-off ranges. And armor support. In Black Mesa Agrunts somehow manage to blow up LAVs with their "bare hands" but that's total bullshit (and ther was nothing like that in HL1). Nothing and i mean NOTHING that weights like 300-500 kgs can screw up an IFV with muscle strenght. It's physically impossible. And garaguntuas only effective once again up close. Abrams tanks engage targets at 4 km ranges. So if anyone was outgunned, it's the xenians.
Well, I'd say it like that; you can't possibly destroy something with durability over 7.5 x 10^5 joules per square meter with mass less then 10 tons and terminal velocity less then at least 700 metres per second. And Agrunts don't move or swing their arms faster then bullet fly, don't they? Let alone their mass, physical enhancements or not, are way less then 500 kg. They could try to pull the IFV over by turning sides, but that won't exactly render it ineffective. But in any conditions, it's physically impossible for such creature to BLOW it up by hitting it.
there's in game dialog stating that the soldiers stopped killing the scientists and even said they would make "whoever gave the order pay" you as Freeman keep getting attacked though because of the rules of engagement he's considered a legal combatant and more of a policing role comes into play they have to try to kill him on sight even if the 7 hour war never happened Freeman would have probably been charged through the court system the guys who made Half Life were really intelligent people so they know about warfare laws and operating domestically
Where was the dialog stating they stopped killing civillians? In Half Life they enjoyed killing scientists.I remember something like " these nerds die too fast"
You can hear the frustration and desperation in these soldiers voicelines, and even how bad its going for the H.E.C.U In this fight. Immaculate voice acting.
For me, this is what puts Black Mesa above Half Life. I've played Half Life and BM multiple times and I can say i'd prefer Black Mesa. The atmosphere of BM wasnt intended to be like Half Life's, it was supposed to be more realistic and scary. Black Mesa really captured the feeling of being stuck in the middle of a ground war between the people who were trained to protect you (HECU/Marines) and an alien force. Black Mesa captures the feeling of fear, confusion and the animal desperation of needing to survive. Half Life was more of an exciting adventure Sci Fi game. In Black Mesa, the marines arent depicted as faceless robot sounding soldiers, they arrive badass and ready to kill scientists they are convinced are terrorists, and by the end of the invasion of Black Mesa they are afraid, abandoning each other and doing anything to survive, just as human as everyone else. I really love what the Black Mesa team has done with this game and It's gameplay. I remember being so immersed listening to the marines calling for help over the radios, it made the game feel so real... Take notes Valve.
To further my point, when you listen to these voice clips ignore the marines talking and listen to the background voices... the voice acting Michael Tsarouhas does is so amazing :D
To be fair, Black Mesa does look like some kind of Bond terrorist organisation. I don't know how else you explain a diaganol elevator leading to a pool of water with rolling crushers at the bottom, pipes full of lasers, nuclear warheads all over the shop, vats of acid with pistons pumping into them and not one but two trash compacters ripped straight from Star Wars.
You can see that in Opposing Force: They started badass but at the end they are just normal humans left in the facility who can't understand anything and asking why the black ops are attacking them too.
Black Mesa had advantage of coming later when tech was cheaper and disc space was less premium. Black Mesa also didn't have to design entire game ground up, just update existing game to modern era (tough granted, they had to basically recreate the engine rather than just apply a coat of pain). They didn't need to design aesthetics or levels or plot or anything.
Any station! Any station! This is Goose 4! I have 16 wounded, 7 dead at LZ Sparrow! We have multiple "X-Rays" all around us! We cannot take off! We are grounded! Anyone there? We need support now! *Background Voices*
The first casualties of the Seven Hour War. Pretty sad to think about just how screwed these guys are, they're stuck between an alien invasion that will conquer the planet in a matter of hours, and an orange popsicle.
The Seven Hours War happened much later after the Black Mesa incident, as indicated by the newspaper in Black Mesa East that said "Portal storm continues". Also, the Xen aliens were a different group from the Combine.
Marc Laidlaw did confirm that the time between the Black Mesa Incident and the 7 Hour War was, "days": combineoverwiki.net/wiki/References:Marc_Laidlaw_emails#On_the_time_between_the_Black_Mesa_Incident_and_the_Seven_Hour_War
*_FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN! WE ARE CUTTING OUR LOSSES AND PULLING OUT. ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE NOW IS ON HIS OWN. REPEAT, IF YOU WEREN'T ALREADY- WHAT... OH SHIT! NO! NO, N-_*
I thibk thats kinda the point. The HECU felt kind of *too* efficent so when they suddenly pulled out it was like "wait what? Dude literally just one of your grunts could rip through a squad of vorts like crazy! Why tf are you pulling out?!" Where in this, they go from being the new big threat to another victim of how severe the situation is getting.
@@stankgangsta4105 True but they were still so fucking STRONG tho. They were outnumbered but they were running through the xen lifeforms like it was nothing. OF doesn't really fit cause while it does show the HECU side of things, they were also adding shit like the X forces and the spec ops which kinda felt a little silly lol
@@bingusshlingus1442 Also Opposing Force still shows the HECU as extremely effective. It's really just the opening where they appear desperate, but after that clears, they end up wiping out most of the Xen Forces until Race X shows up and like you said, it just gets silly after that.
I love the radio transmissions; they capture so much drama in the game and it is so fun. For those of you who don't know; The HECU were under equipped to fight the war they were fighting. They were sent in initially to silence the facility expecting little more than hazardous conditions; potentially armed scientists and security that might try to fight back. The gear issued to the Black Mesa security was nowhere near as tough as the HECU armor and MOPP gear; so they didn't really need anything bigger than shotguns; MP5 submachine guns and a few emplacements and grenades. If you pay attention Black Mesa takes place over a couple days in game time; so once Freeman began killing more Marines and more aliens began to appear; the Marines called in heavier firepower. However if you play Opposing Force; Shepard and his men had much greater firepower. Essentially Freeman was facing the least of the HECU; Shepard and his men were a much better equipped unit because they were going in just a few hours after the first HECU units made contact with Freeman and the major Xen aliens. Once Shepard began disobeying orders and HECU units began to panic; did the military start sending in Black ops units to finish the work of the initial HECU forces. So Freeman got off easy because he wasn't facing the forces Shepard and his men were when they were given their orders to kill him. The HECU began calling in tanks and armored vehicles because of the encounters with Gargantua and Xen warriors. So the only soldiers truly under equipped were the first wave HECU
man combat in black mesa is always so amusing for me for no reason i just sit behind a barrel for 30 minutes and some guy screams, at the top of his lungs, "HOLY SHIT!"
Yeah it's cool and realistic because Abrams has four crew members, it's not like GTA where one person only controls the tank, the ammunition and shoots without any problems
I think the Forget About Freeman radio transmission is coming from inside of a helicopter just because of the way he says, "Anyone left down there now..." and then it gets taken out either by friendly fire (artillery strike, rocket strike) or by one of the alien aircraft.
Why I say it's a helicopter too is that once you get up to the final fight with the HECU outside of the Lambda Bunker, outside of the map is a crashed Osprey. It's in an appropriate location for it to have been the cause for the explosion and death of the guy on the radio at the start of the chapter. It's on the sand and the parking garage is around that spot.
G4: Any station! Any station! This is Goose 4! I have 16 wounded, 7 dead at LZ Sparrow! We have multiple "X-Rays" all around us! We cannot take off! We are grounded! Anyone there? We need support now! BH3: Goose 4, This is Bloodhound 3, reading you loud and clear. ETA, one Mike, sit tight guys. TF3: This is Tree Frog 3, I have eyes on Freeman. I am engaging. O2P: Treefrog 3, this is Oscar 2 Papa, I read you, are you sure it's Freeman? TF3: He looks like an orange ice pop, sir O2P: Spetsparle... Understood, if you have a shot, take it. TF3: Copy M1: This is Mastiff-1, multiple targets in the open, three o' clock, fifty-meters, all the way M1: ENEMY AIR INCOMING M1: SON OF A BITCH, BACK UP, BACK UP, BACK THE FU- Unkown: Rocket team red, rocket team red be advised; Dr. Freeman may be in your sector, stay on high alert. Do not let him get onto that launch pad. E3J: Any station, any station this is echo three Juliet.. my team..*cough* ambushed..I am injured..im losing a lot of blood here..left leg. E5R: echo three Juliet this is echo five Romeo, I need you to tie a tourniquet above the wound. get one out of your I.F.A.K now. E3J: I.F.A.K's gone E5R: say again? E3j: my I.F.A.K's gone *unintelligible* im- E5R: ok you're going to have to find another pack and get a tourniquet out of it. E5R: are you still there? E5R echo three Juliet, can you hear me? Unknown: FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN WE ARE CUTTING ON LOSSES AND PULLING OUT, ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE NOW IS ON HIS OWN. REPEAT, IF YOU WERN'T ALREADY- OH SHIT NO, NO! E5B: Any station, any station this is echo five bravo, are there any air assets able to provide support in sector eight? E5B: Any station any station this is echo five bravo, are there any air assets able to provide support in sector eight, is anyone reading this?! TC1: this is thunder-clap one, no longer in a position to assist, we are moving to LZ thich TC1: push out to the nearest LZ and await further instructions E5Y: Thunder-clap one this is echo five Yankee, we need fire support, how-copy. THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE FREAKING SURROUNDED OUT HERE
I always feel bad for these guys. They enlisted to save lives, only to end up killing civies. In surprised there's any NCOs at this point. Most of them would've been fragged by their subordinates.
0:00 *Any station? Any station? This is Goose-4. I have 16 wounded and 7 dead at LZ-Sparrow. We have multiple X-rays all around us, we can not take off, we are grounded (Let’s get on)* *Is anyone there? We need support now(Why haven’t we taken off yet? Just go for it)*
I loved Treefrog-3 add up part in the game and it was a smart reference to HL-2. The snipers would blast a door to let zombies unleashed on you, crawling behind windows and getting a nice reward for your trouble was handsome.
Goose-4 Is Stuck At The Helipad In LZ Sparrow With X-Rays Surrounding Them = 0:00 Goose-4 Requires Help = 0:05 Bloodhound-3 Responses = 0:21 Treefrog-3 Spots Freeman And Engages = 0:30 Oscar-2 Papa Responses = 0:36 Mastiff-1 Arrives And Opens Fire To The X-Rays = 0:50 Mastiff-1 Detects A Air Enemy = 0:56 Mastiff-1 Gets Destroyed By The Manta Ray = 1:02 A Squad Leader Warns That Freeman Could Be In Their Sector = 1:03 Echo-3-Juliet Requires Help = 1:11 Echo-5-Romeo Responses = 1:25 1:54 FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN! WE ARE CUTTING OUR LOSSES AND PULLING OUT ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE IS ON HIS OWN I REPEAT IF YOU WERENT ALREADY- OH SHIT! NO NO NO.. Echo-5-Bravo Requires Air Assets At Sector 8 = 2:05 Thunderclap-1 Declines The Request And Tells That They Are Moving To LZ Finch = 2:23 Thunderclap Tells Them To Push Out To The Nearest LZ And Await Further Instruction = 2:30 Echo-5-Yankee Requires Fire Support = 2:34
The Ifak line makes me sad, Echo-3 Juliet is injured, delirious from Morohine probably and Fatigued from blood loss, and Echo-5 Romeo responds. Its Literally Romeo and Juliet.
At some point something like: "This Corporal Shephard speaking, I've been left behind with my squad, is someone here ? Someone copy ?" Would have been a nice easter egg and ref But this HECU radio chatter is one of the best, almost sounds like a true war chatter with Vietnam vibes
"Back up, back up! BACK THE FUCK-" R.I.P Mastiff 1, i wish you could actually save those marines during the late parts of Surface Tension, like Goose 4 for example.
Apparently at 0:35, he mentioned that his callsign is "Oscar-2 Papa". If I interpret this right, he's a First Lieutenant (O-2) with a surname starting with P (represented in NATO Phonetic Alphabet as Papa), we can assume it's like saying "First Lieutenant Perez" (or replace the surname with any other that starts with P) but only for the context of identifier in radio communication context. Normally, he should have an assigned callsign if he's a platoon leader but eh, military organization is complicated as is, considering HECU is a branch of the USMC. Edit 1: After so long, I have finally realized it meant the other way than I had first deduced, apparently, it just meant that the guy in question is from Oscar Company, 2nd Platoon, and has a surname starting with P, instead of rank/paygrade designation.
The Abrams Scene was actually not "Multiple Targets in the open, 50 meters, on the way" It was "Multiple Targets in the open, 50 meters, all the way" All the way is actually a military term as in loading a new shell into the turret.
Where's the line for the radio you hear when the Gargantua chases you outside to the tower with the airstrike equipment? Ya know, the one where the guy mentions "cooper, do you copy"?
@@Armin2012 It is they just changed it a lot from a Major instructing one of his soldiers to get out the base, to a soldier screaming to any surviving units to get the fuck out of Black Mesa. The audio file is labelled "radio_comeincooper01" And I found a video with both cooper messages The one in this vid and one closer to the original game, I dunno if both are heard in game from the same radio or at different times or if one of them was cut and the other was used but either way they sound awesome th-cam.com/video/PDFGkgqp1Vc/w-d-xo.html
everyone saying about how they feel bad for the HECU, fine im going to make my own comment! He looks like a orange ice pop sir ,lol even though someone already said that
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"Are you sure it's Freeman?"
"He looks like an orange ice pop, sir."
Gordon: I heard tha-OHSHIT!!!
*gunshots*
Gordon: your head will pop
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"Understood. If you have the shot, take it."
Its been six years man,how are ya doing?
0:41
"He looks like an orange ice-pop, sir."
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Unused dialogue? I have never heard those on that radio where those snipers are.
Freeman's suit looks like an orange Ice-pop
"I have eyes on freeman." "You sure it's freeman?" "Yeah,He looks like an orange ice-pop." "Yeah,That's about it."
Lol
"My IFAK is gone..." scary. You can hear him slowly fading into the dark
Radio: *static*
IFAK guy: *dead*
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twomad in that final overwatch game:
@@mako4134”Twomad, what are you doing? They are pushing us!”
Twomad:
most of these are voiced by the same guy,who did voices for insurgency.he is great at it
monstrs23 insurgency too? hes really good
he's also the lead dev for the new insurgency game
@@Xhardrocker Who is he????
@@Samu0205 u can find him in insurgency wiki
GUYS THEY'RE ON CHARLIE
I've always liked these because they skirt the border between being understandable and being distorted by the radio. I feel like a lot of radios in games and movies are often too clear and easy to understand. They feel like tv programs as a result. These sound a lot more authentic.
I mean, tv programs can be played through a radio in high quality
Well Half life is set either in the late 90s or early 2000s
to back that up some of the equipment they have is already present from the middle/late 90s
To be fair, Freeman’s suit is packed with tracking and communication devices.
0:50 you can really feel the sheer terror and shock in their voices and you genuinely feel bad for them then *boop* the manta ray kills them
That jack-in-the-box of the turret was scary to watch. The ammunition exploded outright. Blow-out panels failed.
Their (Nihilanth's) air force is powerful when they engage air-ground.
This is one of the elements that the Black Mesa team just nailed perfectly. In the original Half-Life you didn't get much indication how bad things were going for the HECU, but they pull out anyways, rapidly.
In Black Mesa you really understand how bad things are going for the HECU. The Xen aliens really start overwhelming them, their conventional weaponry isn't enough, and by the time they decide to Forget about Freeman, it's clear they've taken too many losses and are desperately trying to withdraw.
thats not technically true though, but the HECU of the original half life is much much better in combat and more tougher to beat
Why were they going after freeman in the first place?
@@Brown-streak_studios Revenge
@@TheFunniBaconMan Cleary it was to silence everyone involved in the incident and your probably talking about Hunt Down the Freeman which is so bad
@@Brown-streak_studios Well, freeman was there when the whole ordeal started. In a way he was responsible for the incident, and considering no-one had any idea what was happening - well, in the eyes of HECU he was a possible alien sympathizer, or simply a person that is able to make it worse
0:57 that gave chills, imagine being one of the HECU and you hear your teammates shouting like that on the other side while you dont know is the end of the world
My favourite is 0:59, I couldn’t be more shocked when I heard that on the radio while overlooking the tank exploding in the game. Very realistic.
samdersonvideos very epic and sad
T.A.R Gaming yeah....
The Manta's power is horryfying. The M1A1 succesfully cooked off and blew up in ~1 second or so. It's scary. Even the blow-off panels failed. That Jack-in-the-box was scary to watch if you think about how might it have looked in real life.
@@voxel8960fr in this game the depiction of things can be very limited or tad cheesy but irl it wouldve been a hundred times more terrifying to actually see it happen
not even fucking tanks and air vehicles can stop the nihilanth's hordes lol
Holy shit, some of those are so grim, I feel bad now for all the HECU I, so joyfully, killed...
Snaiper Suji Mayne BM has wonderful voice acting
Don't forget they're just marines, the government told them the scientist caused the resonance cascade on purpose. They were just average guys doing their jobs
Additionally, these guys are fighting all sorts of messed up creatures from whatever hell hole of a universe they came from. Theyre being vaporised, crushed, shot, eaten, abducted, burned and impaled. No wonder theyre scared
I am a big fan of the H.E.C.U but... I hate the ninja jerks (Black ops)I think the bms team should have made the hecu the good guys and ninja jerks the bad guys like Opposing force.
+just a guy you
that would be kinda cool if you could've encountered Marines that went AWOL and didn't murder all the scientists.
Calling the LAV-25 for backup in helipad 0:00
Freeman spotted.Preparing to snipe 0:30
Xen's Attack on the Abrams 0:49
Defending Launchpad from freeman 1:02
The injured Marine's final call 1:10
Forget about Freeman 1:53
Needing Ariel support 2:05
-Ariel- *Arial*
@@Nietabs *Aerial
@@EzekielDeLaCroix -Arial- *Aerial*
Apple User 2 What sells it is the tone. The guy sounds like he’s going into shock from his injuries and the sad part is he probably died from it before anyone could even find it. There’s no “sarge is dead, private milleni is dead, etc.” it’s just this poor guy, probably a recruit even, who got taken by surprise and is slowly dying from his injuries
0:26 why is this a osprey
1:37 "My I.F.A.K (Individual First Aid Kit) is gone..."
"My IFAK", his individual first aid kit.
HeadCrλbbed Ah, alright.
I'll just edit that
Oh, I thought he said eyesight.
i thought he said icepack
i thought he said "left leg" at first.
I feel sorry for for these marines, they didnt know that it was going to hell quickly
And after they got their asses kicked in Black Mesa, they went back to Albuquerque to have their asses kicked again in the Seven Hour War
*President Keemstar flashbacks intensify*
I only feel sorry for the ifak guy... I would have killed everyone else before the xen Aliens did #avengethedead
@@someworkthings7311 actually, freeman only hit about 1% of the soldiers that were deployed
he barely did anything to them, you can also see in some battles where if you don't even engage at all, they still manage to fail just the same
@@jockeyfield1954Jesus, how many marines got deployed?
*PTSD Intensifies*
wait Adrian did gman give you electronics while you are detained?
*INTENSITY INTENSIFIES*
Oh no run echo 6 is gone. Bloodhound 7 is nearby. But its to late for us. 😰🔫 *bang* 😵
Adrian Shephard oh god! Someone get Shephard his comfort companion cube
Adrian Shephard GET TO THE CHOPPER NOW!!!
Girls at voice call: hi, how are you?
Boys at voice call:
Lol nice
IFAK's gone...
*this is Mike Victor 7, we have visual on heavy enemy insurgents, we need sniper teams on the roof ASAP!*
*"THIS IS PAPA-ROMEO 2 WE NEED FIRE SUPPORT HERE,THEY PINNED US DOWN,WE CAN'T MOVE ANYWHERE!"*
As a girl I do this during voice calls ngl 💀💀
Remember these guys are screaming for their lives from a single guy with a crowbar
Hexa Dex Don’t forget aliens.
*a single guy with Rocket Launcher
If this was reality. the marines would kick the human combatant"s ass. the aliens is more of a debate.
well that single guy with a crowbar can jump like a fucking rabbit on steroids.
HECU : We will screw you up, freeman! You piece of shit!
Gordon : WHAT?! WHAT DID YOU SAY AGAIN?!?!
HECU : Retreat! Retreat!
1:54 Now that’s a scary line right there. They’ve been spending pretty much the whole game going after a random scientist with a crowbar killing all of their guys, and now they’re saying that they need to retreat. Just shows how much shit was going sideways.
(Please note: I never played the first Half-Life.)
you really should play HL1 when you get the time. there's quite a few interesting thing to compare between the two games. whether it's how the guns act/feel. to how the levels are structured.
To be honest, I reccomend both half life and Black Mesa, both are great.
0:21 you can slightly hear the engine under the radio static, the small details in this game are fascinating.
I couldn't help but think about these guys while I was in the Marines (2012-2015).
It's weird looking at how the situation played out once you've actually been in. Granted I was a tanker on M1a1s, there's still some things you learn about once you've worked with guys from other MOSs.
The whole gun everyone down thing is a sortve hand wave IMO. The government knew about Black Mesa as did the HECU so it seems odd they'd employ people only to turn around and just gun em down.
In the newest iteration it's even said on a billboard that Black Mesa hires people from different countries as well so there's a good chance other big wigs from those respective countries knew WHAT Black Mesa was (but probably not the fullest extent of what sortve testing was going on. In the old Blue Shift booklet it's implied that Black Mesa knew who the HECU were as well and there's even talk about contingencies, this means the HECU would've had to have trained there or ran rehearsals much like how MSG or FAST teams do with our embassies abroad. Consider how quickly they were able to take over the PA system and lock down key areas, that takes a sense of coordination and direction thoroughly rehearsed.
The general public probably knew what Black Mesa was as well but probably not the extent of what went on over there. It'd be no different than people working high security clearance oriented jobs in any facility, you don't see them spilling the beans everywhere.
But back on point, gunning down everyone including janitors and people working in who knows what menial department is just silly tbh lol and for what? They saw an alien?
That's why I never understood the orders and doubly so now that I've been in and got out. Was it the government's fault the Cascade happened? Did they tell Breen to go overboard on the procedure? We don't know and truth be told were it so crucial to be a secret wouldn't it have been better to just send the black ops only? You know, guys trained to stay tight lipped?
Expecting an entire Marine CBRN unit and dozens of other supporting units to stay quiet is just silly and even more so when the Black ops turn on the Marines. You'd be hard pressed to tell SEALs or any normal SOG to just open up on their fellow U.S. troops.
They sent probably what amounted to an entire Marine expeditionary unit in. There's no way in hell you can keep ALL of them.quiet. What were they just gonna kill em upon RTB? An entire MEUs worth of Marine families suddenly get the word their husband died back at base?
Pilots...tankers....all of em lol.
The word about aliens was gonna get leaked out, there's no way in hell they could silence that reasonably.
As for Freeman, truth be told we'd be more interested in getting him and figuring out how/if he caused the cascade and if he knew how to fix it. Any interrogation etc would come later after the situation had been stabilized. Do bare in mind he did come up the elevator heavily armed and in an armored suit. We re not trained to open up on everything that looks weird, but after seeing aliens n shit there's a good chance someone fucked up orders.
Sorry for the wall of text, all in all the game universe is great but there's alot of loose ends or decisions made that make no sense and as a vet it feels so off putting gunning down entire squads of virtual "Marines" (they left their own behind, we would NEVER do that) over a situation that shouldn't and wouldn't have been handled like that.
Okay, so my understanding is this: The G-Man gave Mesa the Crystal that caused the cascade. In Opposing force, The marines mention training for an operation at Black Mesa, so my guess was they knew something would happen, but not what would which can explain why they got their asses kicked so bad. Plus it was probably a small task force that had reinforcements pour in slowly explain why they couldn't hold for very long. Plus the combine invasion complicated things afterwards
Amen to that, back then and today, I never got the "kill all witnesses" trope or plot handwavium thing. It's not really realistic and only really works in a movie or video game setting in my eyes.
It is simply too flawed to me if I consider various aspects, many that you listed, too.
Commander Vex You can see G-Man talking with a official in the opposing force training camp...
Thank you for your insight. I've always been fascinated by breakdowns of film/video game fictional/nonfictional military units given by current and former servicemen. They almost always provide a gem of knowledge and even when they don't, they're still fun to read regardless.
Upon reading your comment, I became curious as to whether or not a dedicated a dedicated CBRN unit existed within the USMC. Lo and behold, I came across the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Biological_Incident_Response_Force ). Interesting stuff.
@FNGof2010
Amen to that. For years or over a decade I've been fascinated by such radio chatter or announcements (e.g. Deus Ex 2 local announcements of various kinds, from ads to warnings) from various games, like Doom 3, FEAR (Replicas), the HL series from HECU to Combine (OW/CP) radio chatter, from radio chatter in mods for those games, etc.
It's fascinating and usually always adds to immersion while serving a purpose, of course.
I remember doing an ARMA 3 op where we roleplayed as the HECU marines in black mesa, that was the most PTSD giving ARMA 3 OP I have ever done.
Maybe should have given them more than just MP5s.
budget cuts
The HECU was trained for CQB in the labs, and were only trained to fight mindless Xen creatures like Headcrabs and maybe Vorts. The straight up alien invasion was not planned for, and they weren't armed to fight a ground war outside of the Black Mesa facility.
you said they werent armed for ground war yet they had apaches , f-16 , m1 abrams , lav and bradleys , none of those vehicles were to enter the labs , they were more than equiped for ground war
I'm pretty certain they did in the original Half Life. Although, my memory also tells me there was more than one story such as Barney Calhoun and Adrian Shepherd. I'm not sure if their stories got the same treatment as Gordon's did but I would like to see if it did. This, of course, assuming I remembered things correctly; however, my memory is often unreliable so who knows?
Actually...
The normal models depict mp5s and the HD depict ARs but in my knowledge they were supposed to use ARs like the M16 and M4s
"Rocket team red, rocket team red be advised; Dr. Freeman may be in your sector, stay on high alert.
*Do not let him get onto that launch pad.*
orange ice pop
why he do be on the launchpad doe
goob guy cause hes vibin
@@dawatermelon2877 replay on a rail
Despite the unnecessary killings they were doing inside, i feel like the surface marines were just fighting their war, i felt bad for the IFAK guy and the Abrams crew.
consider this an ifak is held by a group medic in black mesa. and freeman is shown to gladly take the IFAK kits off the medic HECU's corpses in BM.
ghostboy1225@ wait the medics don’t drop ifak’s/first aid kits in game. And it sounds like this poor soul is at another part of the surface facility
@@metalc.s3170 the medics do however i belive the amount dropped is based on how many have been used to heal other marines. if more than 2 or 3 then i belive they don't drop any. i am unsure if it is affected by difficulty though.
@Falkrim they were experimenting on the aliens i dont think they were
i feel kinda bad for the ones in the osprey
Wow, this is pretty gut wrenching.
Wrench eh
The HECU who survived Black Mesa later died during the Seven Hour War. Even if IFAK guy made it, he had weeks to live at the most.
Yep , surviving Black Mesa was just delaying your death
either they were turned to a Conscript (A HL2 Cut Enemy and Friendly) or died, or became an OTA
@@Jeba_g. Or a Rebel
@@overwatchadvisor2127 i hardly believe they’d be a rebel, rebels are men, women with no little trainings chosen to be a rebel
@@Jeba_g. Actually If i remember correctly, Some hecu marines that survived became rebels in hl2
Freeman's suit should have intercepted all the HECU radio chatters, that would make it so people don't miss immersive momments like this.
They did mention in the start up about comm. systems. Sad they never sought the opportunity to hear your colleagues die and you would be more motivated to kill HECU/Alien
@@cj-3810 yeah It would have been interesting to hear security radio chatter towards the start of the game and listen as it goes to hell or hear scientists inform others via radio about things like hecu or Gordon's progress.
@@charple_ it would also make excellent world building too! i could imagine 2 soldiers over the radio expressing how they're not gonna make it out of the facility, even if an evac team comes to save them, so they just disable their radios and it's left up to your mind to imagine their fates
The real MVP of the black mess incident was the LAV rolling in to try and save the Osprey crew
I feel bad for the crew in the M1 and get annihilated by a flying manta
Scary shit
They didn't back the fuck in time.
@@Bacony_Cakes It's "back the f*** up!"
@@scottm8292 No, they say "Back the fuck".
@@Bacony_Cakes Dont reverse back the fuck
I think the HECU probably would have failed, regardless of Freeman's meddling.
Yes, they were SEVERELY outnumbered. Black Mesa shows that even better then the original - grunts manage to take down aliens all the time, but there's just more and more teleporting. It's an entire dimension agaisnt like, few batallions of troops. Xenians would just throw a wall of meat at HECU.
+xxx xxx it's not just that they where outnumbered. the HECU was up against alien grunts. the homing projectile means no cover, they're stronger and can take more damage, and had no front line. Add the fact that they are manufactured, meaning you don't need an entire dimension, just a few assembly lines and time, and they where outnumbered, and outgunned by an enemy they would never have been able to train for, and they stood no chance. The only reason they took over black mesa by OAR is because there was a lull during which time nihilanth was likely preparing. once the counter-attack was launched, the HECU where driven off the base in a few hours.
And that's not the worst part; Vorts can send back information up until the moment they die, so the initial attack was just a scouting mission. the nihilanth had enough info to know the weakest points to strike. The HECU weren't even able to make a coordinated effort to fight back. toward the end of surface tension, it really does feel like the end of the word. Humanity's feeble attempt to fend of an enemy that has every imaginable upper hand.
There is only the point of "they have no frontline" statement. And that really is very grim situation indeed, as if you can't not only form a line of defense, but all the entranchments and hardpoints also being rendered useless against the enemy that can teleport. It's even more evident in Black Mesa then the original game, when you can see damn xenians ambush armored convoys in tunnels and overcome heavilly entranched positions that would otherwise stop hundreds of them, if they'd attack it upfront. I wonder why xenians even bothered to send troops rather then teleport bombs everywhere.
However, in any other element other then mobility, HECU had an upper hand. Their "bee guns" are quite pathetic in both game mechanics (players chose MP5s over them in multiplayer all the time) and even more "lore-wise". Guns have much greater kinetic power, than those things, and "bees" are slow. It seems that they must have some kind of instant poison to do damage at all, because you really can't "bite" hard enough to kill a person. Anyway it's ain't that hard to protect from such things (HEV suits should be immune to those at all, lore-wise), and they are useless against armored vehicles. And in fact the size of alien grunts make them easier targets. The fact they can suffer more damage only comes to play in a really close-quarters (VERY close - I mean, hand-to-hand close) combat situations. Actually, HECU guys win against those all the time in original HL1 (at least, game-mechanics wise), especially those armed with grenade launchers. In Black Mesa, HECU wins most of the time at distance, but they get killed if Agrunts come up close (and in BM they programmed to "rush" to close quarters). Manta rays are pathetic kind of air support, since they can only shoot their "lasers" in 90 degree angle, and at very short distances. Modern military engagements mostly have ranges in few miles or so. Jet fighters should have really easy time taking those down from stand-off ranges.
And armor support. In Black Mesa Agrunts somehow manage to blow up LAVs with their "bare hands" but that's total bullshit (and ther was nothing like that in HL1). Nothing and i mean NOTHING that weights like 300-500 kgs can screw up an IFV with muscle strenght. It's physically impossible.
And garaguntuas only effective once again up close. Abrams tanks engage targets at 4 km ranges.
So if anyone was outgunned, it's the xenians.
The probably have some form of physical anhancements seeing as one pulls open two gigantic steel doors.
Well, I'd say it like that; you can't possibly destroy something with durability over 7.5 x 10^5 joules per square meter with mass less then 10 tons and terminal velocity less then at least 700 metres per second. And Agrunts don't move or swing their arms faster then bullet fly, don't they? Let alone their mass, physical enhancements or not, are way less then 500 kg. They could try to pull the IFV over by turning sides, but that won't exactly render it ineffective. But in any conditions, it's physically impossible for such creature to BLOW it up by hitting it.
1:11 This one is so sad.. I kinda feel bad for that guy. Oh well. They killed innocent scientists so..
lλmbda Reference in launch pad room "I didn't sign up for this shit! Aliens? Hell yeah! ...But civilians? Who ordered this damned operation anyway?!
they're just following orders
there's in game dialog stating that the soldiers stopped killing the scientists and even said they would make "whoever gave the order pay"
you as Freeman keep getting attacked though because of the rules of engagement he's considered a legal combatant and more of a policing role comes into play they have to try to kill him on sight
even if the 7 hour war never happened Freeman would have probably been charged through the court system the guys who made Half Life were really intelligent people so they know about warfare laws and operating domestically
Where was the dialog stating they stopped killing civillians? In Half Life they enjoyed killing scientists.I remember something like " these nerds die too fast"
They are soldiers and have to follow orders and they also were under pressure when aliens started to be outnumbered and also because of the pull out
0:59 When you go into a random thread and get welcomed by something extremely unsettling.
When you see that the flat earth discord you jokingly joined has an NSFW channel
Madness when you go to zen and find a alien strip club
@@madness1206 ...What? How? Why?
@@foxydash9992 damn i wanna see some headcrabs clapping cheeks lol
2:03 that is great acting. You can literally hear the fear in his voice,
"He looks like an orange ice-pop, sir."
You can hear the frustration and desperation in these soldiers voicelines, and even how bad its going for the H.E.C.U In this fight. Immaculate voice acting.
This is what I imagine the chatter from SCP MTF operatives is like.
1:02 gets annihilated by a flying Manta ray
The ifak guy is the saddest one.
Imagine seeing your life spraying out of your leg and you can't do anything about it.
This gives a lot of inmersion in the game :'D
Black Mesa HECU: "We need support NOW"
OG Half Life HECU: "MY ASS IS HEAVY"
Love the background voices, like the one at 1:51
For me, this is what puts Black Mesa above Half Life. I've played Half Life and BM multiple times and I can say i'd prefer Black Mesa. The atmosphere of BM wasnt intended to be like Half Life's, it was supposed to be more realistic and scary. Black Mesa really captured the feeling of being stuck in the middle of a ground war between the people who were trained to protect you (HECU/Marines) and an alien force. Black Mesa captures the feeling of fear, confusion and the animal desperation of needing to survive. Half Life was more of an exciting adventure Sci Fi game. In Black Mesa, the marines arent depicted as faceless robot sounding soldiers, they arrive badass and ready to kill scientists they are convinced are terrorists, and by the end of the invasion of Black Mesa they are afraid, abandoning each other and doing anything to survive, just as human as everyone else. I really love what the Black Mesa team has done with this game and It's gameplay. I remember being so immersed listening to the marines calling for help over the radios, it made the game feel so real...
Take notes Valve.
To further my point, when you listen to these voice clips ignore the marines talking and listen to the background voices... the voice acting Michael Tsarouhas does is so amazing :D
To be fair, Black Mesa does look like some kind of Bond terrorist organisation. I don't know how else you explain a diaganol elevator leading to a pool of water with rolling crushers at the bottom, pipes full of lasers, nuclear warheads all over the shop, vats of acid with pistons pumping into them and not one but two trash compacters ripped straight from Star Wars.
Well technically they're a military installation that develops weapons for the marines but... why do we need some of that shit?! lmao
You can see that in Opposing Force: They started badass but at the end they are just normal humans left in the facility who can't understand anything and asking why the black ops are attacking them too.
Black Mesa had advantage of coming later when tech was cheaper and disc space was less premium. Black Mesa also didn't have to design entire game ground up, just update existing game to modern era (tough granted, they had to basically recreate the engine rather than just apply a coat of pain). They didn't need to design aesthetics or levels or plot or anything.
Any station! Any station! This is Goose 4! I have 16 wounded, 7 dead at LZ Sparrow! We have multiple "X-Rays" all around us! We cannot take off! We are grounded! Anyone there? We need support now! *Background Voices*
Goose 4, This is Bloodhound 3, reading you loud and clear. ETA, one "Mike", sit tight guys.
This is Tree Frog 3, I have eyes on Freeman. I am engaging.
Treefrog 3, this is Oscar 2 Papa, I read you, are you sure it's Freeman?
He looks like an orange ice pop, sir
Spetsparle... Understood, if you have a shot, take it.
"my ifaks gone" holy shit dude
The Yellng Fatman that was depressing
I know really sad, makes me sympathize with the troop and see them as other people just trying to survive
1:38 You can hear him gulping, as he know hes not gonna make it...
"He looks like an Orange Icepop, sir."
That's an.. interesting comparison...
The first casualties of the Seven Hour War. Pretty sad to think about just how screwed these guys are, they're stuck between an alien invasion that will conquer the planet in a matter of hours, and an orange popsicle.
The Seven Hours War happened much later after the Black Mesa incident, as indicated by the newspaper in Black Mesa East that said "Portal storm continues". Also, the Xen aliens were a different group from the Combine.
well, i mean that orange popsicle has the ability to hop around in 500 mph with a super deadly rapid firing crowbar
Marc Laidlaw did confirm that the time between the Black Mesa Incident and the 7 Hour War was, "days": combineoverwiki.net/wiki/References:Marc_Laidlaw_emails#On_the_time_between_the_Black_Mesa_Incident_and_the_Seven_Hour_War
This wasn’t the seven hour war.
The best HECU voice acting ever
*BACK UP! BACK UP! BACK THE FU~*
Good work, someone needed to upload this
*_FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN! WE ARE CUTTING OUR LOSSES AND PULLING OUT. ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE NOW IS ON HIS OWN. REPEAT, IF YOU WEREN'T ALREADY- WHAT... OH SHIT! NO! NO, N-_*
0:21 *Goose-4 this is Bloodhound-3 reading you loud and clear ETA one Mike, sit tight guys*
These guy sounds like they've been thru more hell than Freeman did
Girls in capture the flag: “Ugh, this is so boring! Lets just stay here and talk!”
Boys: 0:00
*"ANY STATION, ANY STATION THIS IS HAMMER-3 LEADER WE NEED SUPPORT AT POINT C NOW!"*
Listening to this makes the game a LOT more brtual.
I like how they humanized them but in the Orginal the HECU was scarier than the Aliens in some ways. They sort of lost that
I thibk thats kinda the point. The HECU felt kind of *too* efficent so when they suddenly pulled out it was like "wait what? Dude literally just one of your grunts could rip through a squad of vorts like crazy! Why tf are you pulling out?!" Where in this, they go from being the new big threat to another victim of how severe the situation is getting.
@bingusshlingus1442 In the OG they also did a great job showing they were out numbered and spead thin.. Opposing added to this.
@@stankgangsta4105 True but they were still so fucking STRONG tho. They were outnumbered but they were running through the xen lifeforms like it was nothing. OF doesn't really fit cause while it does show the HECU side of things, they were also adding shit like the X forces and the spec ops which kinda felt a little silly lol
@@bingusshlingus1442 Also Opposing Force still shows the HECU as extremely effective. It's really just the opening where they appear desperate, but after that clears, they end up wiping out most of the Xen Forces until Race X shows up and like you said, it just gets silly after that.
I love the radio transmissions; they capture so much drama in the game and it is so fun.
For those of you who don't know; The HECU were under equipped to fight the war they were fighting. They were sent in initially to silence the facility expecting little more than hazardous conditions; potentially armed scientists and security that might try to fight back. The gear issued to the Black Mesa security was nowhere near as tough as the HECU armor and MOPP gear; so they didn't really need anything bigger than shotguns; MP5 submachine guns and a few emplacements and grenades.
If you pay attention Black Mesa takes place over a couple days in game time; so once Freeman began killing more Marines and more aliens began to appear; the Marines called in heavier firepower.
However if you play Opposing Force; Shepard and his men had much greater firepower. Essentially Freeman was facing the least of the HECU; Shepard and his men were a much better equipped unit because they were going in just a few hours after the first HECU units made contact with Freeman and the major Xen aliens.
Once Shepard began disobeying orders and HECU units began to panic; did the military start sending in Black ops units to finish the work of the initial HECU forces.
So Freeman got off easy because he wasn't facing the forces Shepard and his men were when they were given their orders to kill him.
The HECU began calling in tanks and armored vehicles because of the encounters with Gargantua and Xen warriors.
So the only soldiers truly under equipped were the first wave HECU
We need a Black Mesa movie ASAP and it has to be one of the best movies ever made.
I beginning to feel bad to those soldier. :(
1:55 would be a good horror game radio line
0:01, 0:18 0:21
0:31 0:37 0:41 0:47 0:48
1:03 0:50 0:56 0:59
1:10 1:23 1:33 1:35 1:37 1:43 1:47
2:33 2:22 2:39 2:29
1:50
1:54
2:04
2:22
2:12
2:30
2:35
There is reason you dont fight a man who can destroy the whole facility just under couple hours
I don't know why, but oar_radiolaunchpad gives me chills down my spine
How?
Perhaps it reminds you of the voices of the soldiers in SCP: Containment Breach? Because it does for me.
man combat in black mesa is always so amusing for me for no reason
i just sit behind a barrel for 30 minutes and some guy screams, at the top of his lungs, "HOLY SHIT!"
1:54 Literally anyone if they attempt to raid 4chan
Love how Abrams radio chatter have more than 1 person talking
Yeah it's cool and realistic because Abrams has four crew members, it's not like GTA where one person only controls the tank, the ammunition and shoots without any problems
I think the Forget About Freeman radio transmission is coming from inside of a helicopter just because of the way he says, "Anyone left down there now..." and then it gets taken out either by friendly fire (artillery strike, rocket strike) or by one of the alien aircraft.
Syrsa Fox I think the “Anyone left down there now...” means in the facility as many HECU teams were dispatched to the deepest parts of Black Mesa.
Why I say it's a helicopter too is that once you get up to the final fight with the HECU outside of the Lambda Bunker, outside of the map is a crashed Osprey. It's in an appropriate location for it to have been the cause for the explosion and death of the guy on the radio at the start of the chapter. It's on the sand and the parking garage is around that spot.
"BACK UP! BACK UP! BACK THE..." -The last words from Mastiff-1. Wow
"We Need Support!" Background : AHHHGGA AAH AHHH GET IT OFF
Da Epic Kawwala Guy probably a head crab
G4: Any station! Any station! This is Goose 4! I have 16 wounded, 7 dead at LZ Sparrow! We have multiple "X-Rays" all around us! We cannot take off! We are grounded! Anyone there? We need support now!
BH3: Goose 4, This is Bloodhound 3, reading you loud and clear. ETA, one Mike, sit tight guys.
TF3: This is Tree Frog 3, I have eyes on Freeman. I am engaging.
O2P: Treefrog 3, this is Oscar 2 Papa, I read you, are you sure it's Freeman?
TF3: He looks like an orange ice pop, sir
O2P: Spetsparle... Understood, if you have a shot, take it.
TF3: Copy
M1: This is Mastiff-1, multiple targets in the open, three o' clock, fifty-meters, all the way
M1: ENEMY AIR INCOMING
M1: SON OF A BITCH, BACK UP, BACK UP, BACK THE FU-
Unkown: Rocket team red, rocket team red be advised; Dr. Freeman may be in your sector, stay on high alert. Do not let him get onto that launch pad.
E3J: Any station, any station this is echo three Juliet.. my team..*cough* ambushed..I am injured..im losing a lot of blood here..left leg.
E5R: echo three Juliet this is echo five Romeo, I need you to tie a tourniquet above the wound. get one out of your I.F.A.K now.
E3J: I.F.A.K's gone
E5R: say again?
E3j: my I.F.A.K's gone *unintelligible* im-
E5R: ok you're going to have to find another pack and get a tourniquet out of it.
E5R: are you still there?
E5R echo three Juliet, can you hear me?
Unknown: FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN WE ARE CUTTING ON LOSSES AND PULLING OUT, ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE NOW IS ON HIS OWN. REPEAT, IF YOU WERN'T ALREADY- OH SHIT NO, NO!
E5B: Any station, any station this is echo five bravo, are there any air assets able to provide support in sector eight?
E5B: Any station any station this is echo five bravo, are there any air assets able to provide support in sector eight, is anyone reading this?!
TC1: this is thunder-clap one, no longer in a position to assist, we are moving to LZ thich
TC1: push out to the nearest LZ and await further instructions
E5Y: Thunder-clap one this is echo five Yankee, we need fire support, how-copy. THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE FREAKING SURROUNDED OUT HERE
1:00 my favorite radio chat. Ba-back up back up back the fu!.
I always feel bad for these guys. They enlisted to save lives, only to end up killing civies. In surprised there's any NCOs at this point. Most of them would've been fragged by their subordinates.
0:00 *Any station? Any station? This is Goose-4. I have 16 wounded and 7 dead at LZ-Sparrow. We have multiple X-rays all around us, we can not take off, we are grounded (Let’s get on)* *Is anyone there? We need support now(Why haven’t we taken off yet? Just go for it)*
Goose-4 this is Bloodhound-3, reading you loud and clear. ETA one mike. Sit tight guys.
I loved Treefrog-3 add up part in the game and it was a smart reference to HL-2. The snipers would blast a door to let zombies unleashed on you, crawling behind windows and getting a nice reward for your trouble was handsome.
The guy around 0:45. He sounds so young, around early to mid 20s. Jesus.
0:50 to 1:02 best ones
"Forget about about freeman! We are pulling out, Anyone out there now is gonna- Oh shit! NO, NO, NO, NO-"
Goose-4 Is Stuck At The Helipad In LZ Sparrow With X-Rays Surrounding Them = 0:00
Goose-4 Requires Help = 0:05
Bloodhound-3 Responses = 0:21
Treefrog-3 Spots Freeman And Engages = 0:30
Oscar-2 Papa Responses = 0:36
Mastiff-1 Arrives And Opens Fire To The X-Rays = 0:50
Mastiff-1 Detects A Air Enemy = 0:56
Mastiff-1 Gets Destroyed By The Manta Ray = 1:02
A Squad Leader Warns That Freeman Could Be In Their Sector = 1:03
Echo-3-Juliet Requires Help = 1:11
Echo-5-Romeo Responses = 1:25
1:54 FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN! WE ARE CUTTING OUR LOSSES AND PULLING OUT ANYONE LEFT DOWN THERE IS ON HIS OWN I REPEAT IF YOU WERENT ALREADY- OH SHIT! NO NO NO..
Echo-5-Bravo Requires Air Assets At Sector 8 = 2:05
Thunderclap-1 Declines The Request And Tells That They Are Moving To LZ
Finch = 2:23
Thunderclap Tells Them To Push Out To The Nearest LZ And Await Further Instruction = 2:30
Echo-5-Yankee Requires Fire Support = 2:34
The Ifak line makes me sad, Echo-3 Juliet is injured, delirious from Morohine probably and Fatigued from blood loss, and Echo-5 Romeo responds. Its Literally Romeo and Juliet.
1:38 - He saw the Gman!
What makes you say that.
At some point something like:
"This Corporal Shephard speaking, I've been left behind with my squad, is someone here ? Someone copy ?"
Would have been a nice easter egg and ref
But this HECU radio chatter is one of the best, almost sounds like a true war chatter with Vietnam vibes
"Back up, back up! BACK THE FUCK-"
R.I.P Mastiff 1, i wish you could actually save those marines during the late parts of Surface Tension, like Goose 4 for example.
"He looks like a orange ice pop sir."
2:00 Oh shit
This reminds me of the MW2 Radio Chatter, it tells a small story.
0:03 goose 4 is the osprey you ride at the beginning of opposing force!
Actually, it's goose 7, which crashlandedm
“My ifaks gone”
Jesus… that hit different
I like how the first person to respond to echo 3 juliet was echo 5 romeo.
Apparently at 0:35, he mentioned that his callsign is "Oscar-2 Papa". If I interpret this right, he's a First Lieutenant (O-2) with a surname starting with P (represented in NATO Phonetic Alphabet as Papa), we can assume it's like saying "First Lieutenant Perez" (or replace the surname with any other that starts with P) but only for the context of identifier in radio communication context.
Normally, he should have an assigned callsign if he's a platoon leader but eh, military organization is complicated as is, considering HECU is a branch of the USMC.
Edit 1: After so long, I have finally realized it meant the other way than I had first deduced, apparently, it just meant that the guy in question is from Oscar Company, 2nd Platoon, and has a surname starting with P, instead of rank/paygrade designation.
Eye for detail eh
Whole shit was out of control when Xen goes a full force invasion
0:26 *"o s p r e y"*
The Abrams Scene was actually not "Multiple Targets in the open, 50 meters, on the way"
It was "Multiple Targets in the open, 50 meters, all the way"
All the way is actually a military term as in loading a new shell into the turret.
fucking knew he said all the way. i was right all along
it's "On the way."
"All the way" isn't a thing.
back up, BACK UP, *BACK THE FUCK-*
Where's the line for the radio you hear when the Gargantua chases you outside to the tower with the airstrike equipment?
Ya know, the one where the guy mentions "cooper, do you copy"?
1:53
That’s not it
@@Armin2012 It is they just changed it a lot from a Major instructing one of his soldiers to get out the base, to a soldier screaming to any surviving units to get the fuck out of Black Mesa. The audio file is labelled "radio_comeincooper01"
And I found a video with both cooper messages
The one in this vid and one closer to the original game, I dunno if both are heard in game from the same radio or at different times or if one of them was cut and the other was used but either way they sound awesome
th-cam.com/video/PDFGkgqp1Vc/w-d-xo.html
@@TheArkman360 yeah that’s the one I was referring to in that clip. Thanks!
@@Armin2012 Ya welcome!
Morning doctor freeman
*giant orange popsicle turns and waves*
As much as I absolutely HATE the hecu.. I actually do feel bad for the IFAK guy.. that was both pretty horrific and sad to listen to
everyone saying about how they feel bad for the HECU,
fine im going to make my own comment!
He looks like a orange ice pop sir ,lol even though someone already said that
They should have added “my ass is heavy” as an Easter egg lmao
I wish we could've heard radio chatter from the Harrier jet pilots
the guy who tells everyone to forget about freeman sounds like he meets a terrible fate