Does a $25.00 Sony Receiver Sound Better Than a Classic Marantz?

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  • @lindah6954
    @lindah6954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I had a Marantz 4 channel receiver. A friend offered me $400 for it. I thought he was joking. After he pulled out the money, he was not. Hell yeah I took the money. I went to Circuit City the next day and bought a new Sony 7.1 receiver and 2 new speakers. I still had $70 to buy some cd's. 2 years later and my Sony died. My old hand me down Marantz I sold was still working like new.
    12 years and 4 receivers later, the old Marantz is still working. The old shit was built to last.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I’ve done a similar thing. Live and learn. Thx.

    • @msbrownbeast
      @msbrownbeast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That same Marantz is probably worth more than what you sold it for! Your friend got a great deal!

    • @lindah6954
      @lindah6954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@msbrownbeast Yep. It still works.

    • @duroxkilo
      @duroxkilo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the capacitors need replacement, the tuner needs calibration, etc, on old equipment like that.. so while it's true that they were build to last, they do need maintenance..
      if one were to buy the top of the line of something that were build today, the quality is still there. you can't really compare top of the line w/ entry level stuffs... :}

    • @creation_nono
      @creation_nono 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Caps need replacing i am sure. Do it before they completley leak and damage the board.

  • @nickv4073
    @nickv4073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got hooked on vintage receivers and speakers in 1976 when I went away to college. I saw all this great stuff that other students had in their dorm rooms that I could not afford. Decades later, I started buying vintage Marantz, Pioneers, Sansuis, Kenwoods, etc for a song. You are correct. Nothing competes with the old gear.

  • @terrykilgore3712
    @terrykilgore3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a Marantz 2235 that I purchased in the mid 70's. I had the burned out lights replaced and the unit given a thorough cleaning. The tower speakers needed to be reconed an they are in good shape now. The setup I have also includes a Marantz turntable and a cassette deck. I still have all my vinyl records. I'm still happy with my Marantz equipment.

  • @paulrose6359
    @paulrose6359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In my very humble opinion the 2270 Marantz, in good condition, and up to factory specs, was the best sounding/working receiver of it's day.
    It still sounds as good as it looks and is head and shoulders above most of today's stuff. JMO of course, all ears are different.

    • @solice8844
      @solice8844 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the 1974 purchased 2270 and have tried using my late Marantz 5.1 surround sound receiver in its place to drive my JBL speakers. Not good because I think the 5.1 receiver is a different animal designed for small surround sound speakers only.

  • @tpc3416
    @tpc3416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just sold my 45lb mint Denon 4802R with a Bluetooth 5.0 adapter for $225. The toroid transformer was massive. It was made in Japan, and had 2 remotes. Perfect for a dedicated 2 channel set up. Buttery sound. They are out there.

  • @guitartisan
    @guitartisan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have one I bought at Best Buy for $75 a few years back. I hooked it up up to DYI passive reflex speakers that I had built way back in 1970, plus an unpowered subwoofer. Added a new $ 90 preamped turntable. Plus lots of options for other audio, including video. Better than any system I had been able cobble together in the past. Extremely satisfying!

  • @andrew.l.5493
    @andrew.l.5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's exactly what you said in your video. Budget quality. That said, Sony have always built good honest and reliable products. Sound wise one needs to look to their better models. However well bought for $25.00.

  • @trsmith581958
    @trsmith581958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhhhh the receiver wars. My old veteran from the end of that era is an Onkyo 8500 mkii . I have owned it from new purchased at a store called Listening Booth. It does have a fuller warmer sound. I'm glad I kept it. Thanks for the video. My buddy had deeper pockets at the time and was rocking Marantz hardware in the mid 70s

  • @RonsWorld5
    @RonsWorld5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish I kept my Marantz 2385. I purchased it new when I was in the USAF in the UK. I sold it because the left channel went out. Stupid me because it could have been repaired. It sounded better than anything I have now. A smooth rich dynamic range.

  • @bobbya8622
    @bobbya8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That Marantz is a beautiful receiver!

  • @steven3379
    @steven3379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep a Marantz 2230 was my first real stereo.... I wish I still had it.... 👍

  • @ldchappell1
    @ldchappell1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a 70s Marantz amp for $25 at The Goodwill in 1994. It was in mint condition and worked great until 2010.

  • @grahamserle7930
    @grahamserle7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Marantz 1070 that I bought new in the mid 70's. I have home theatre amps as well but I'm still using the Marantz in a living room space every day. This amp has never failed me in 45 years and it still sounds great with good speakers. It does say something for the quality of this amp because back then things were made to last.

    • @PA-Tammy
      @PA-Tammy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Recap the power supply and filter caps.

  • @Cashcrop54
    @Cashcrop54 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had an Accutrac turntable when it came out in the 70's. Programmable and had a remote. Loved everything about it. Rest of my system was Pioneer and a TEAC Reel to Reel. Today I have a Pioneer system with Surround Sound. I can rarely turn it up over half volume. Had it since 1985.

  • @dbreardon
    @dbreardon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really interesting that I came upon your video. My new neighbors bought their place already furnished. They offered me the stereo unit that was left by the previous owner.......the exact same Sony Receiver (without remote) you show here along with a pair of 26 year old Infinity Kappa 5.1 speakers (that I will be refoaming next week)......all for free!

  • @yeastpriest
    @yeastpriest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hit the thumbs up when you did the $25 out the door bit. Nice work.

  • @PA-Tammy
    @PA-Tammy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find and repair the old stuff Pioneer is my favorite. My SX-1080 SG-9500 CT-F1000 Akai GX-635D and HPM-100 are all mint and sound as good as they did 40+ yrs ago 😀 😄.
    In my Lab I have a SX-780 RT-1020L RT-707 CT-9191 and a RG-1 and NS-690s
    My 780 puts out a clean 59 watts before clipping but never really need to go over 10 watts.

  • @redstonesalat7293
    @redstonesalat7293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have A Old Matantz pm25 with a Dual 630Q(A German Recordplayer beacause i am From Germany) And the Sound is Fantastic. Specilly With Beyerdynamic Dt770 Pro Headphones. An i am 14 Years old Now... And Bought This Amp. When i was 12 and start to Putting my Hifi together...

  • @psychrocklive
    @psychrocklive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    cool video, id love to get my hands on one of those 2270's someday, it seems like the sony was still a pretty great deal though! At $25 I could hardly think of a receiver I could thrift for much cheaper, it would really seal the deal if it had a built-in phono stage, oh well. Great video! look forward to watching more.

  • @ItsaRomethingeveryday
    @ItsaRomethingeveryday 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have never even seen a marantz stereo in person, am 50 years old now, oddly I've owned pretty much every other brand tho, Still ride hard for my Pioneer 8500 series 2, everyone who has ever been to my place and listened to it said it was one of the most clearest defined sound they can recall having gotten the pleasure of hearing, I have a dual set of Sony 200 watt 10 inch connected it,
    Ps, Love your vids and the in Depth content of your vids, Have a Great day

  • @video99couk
    @video99couk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using one of these Sony amps in my studio (audio / video transfer business) for quite a few years now. I like the ability to rename the inputs. It's proven to be reliable and effective and didn't cost much.

  • @18000rpm
    @18000rpm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    To be fair that's a $150, current-model Sony receiver. You just got an amazing deal on it.

    • @michaelterry1000
      @michaelterry1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My guess, it was stolen merchendise.
      Remember, this was, "Come meet me in this parking lot and I will sell you a brand new receiver for $25"

    • @SinnerSince1962
      @SinnerSince1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michaelterry1000 I meet people in the parking lot, even when I'm selling. I don't want people in my house casing the joint.

    • @michaelterry1000
      @michaelterry1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SinnerSince1962 I would too, because often times (not always) criminals Buy & Sell merchandise in parking lots out of the trunk of their cars.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They were a nice married couple. Nothing illicit was going down.

    • @pault151
      @pault151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the 130 model manual has a copyright date 2012. However Sony still sells the -190, still 100W+100W, and I got a screaming deal at BestBuy for $100 on sale a year ago. Not quite as good as $25 though!
      I was looking for a separate amp to drive a subwoofer, and this receiver was way cheaper! And I could pick it up that day which was important to be able to test the rest of the system. Even has phono inputs though I won't be using those, and a remote, and radio presets. Worked for me.
      I would be interested in seeing his actual frequency response graph, not just a picture of a smiley spectrum with drawn-in lows and highs. I can't believe that Sony would put out a unit that has more than a dB or two of response error 20-20KHz, it's just too easy to do it right.

  • @EastMontana1
    @EastMontana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My friend, there is sound and there is MARANTZ.
    After you hear one. Nothing will sound like it.

    • @hi-fidude6670
      @hi-fidude6670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mr.V-e1w Marantz tube gear designed by Saul himself would just demolish those. Over 60 years old, still the best equipment ever made.

    • @hi-fidude6670
      @hi-fidude6670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.V-e1w You are a complete fool for even suggesting that. Marantz or nothing, made in America like a real tube amp should be.

    • @steeplejock
      @steeplejock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can vouch for the current Marantz 6007 Amp which is accurate, powerful and so sweet - whether analogue or digital, it does justice to all music.

  • @meanwhileinjapan2265
    @meanwhileinjapan2265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vintage for the win I still have a stereo turntable speakers and amplifier over 40 years old and working sounds amazing and looks beautiful.

    • @colanitower
      @colanitower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here.

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      $5000 for Vintage Marantz Amplifier! I can't believe scalper are doing this to audiophile! $5000 screw it and get a Pioneer amp

  • @Minitrucker231
    @Minitrucker231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nothing beats vintage stereos. Unlike the crap that's made nowadays, I'll pay the premium for vintage over modern any day. My current setup is a Kenwood KR-830 and a set of Bose Acoustimass 3 Series 2's. Paired with my computer, it's one of the better setups I've had.

  • @noturnleftunstoned72
    @noturnleftunstoned72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same love affair / good audio luck with Luxman. Every piece I have and have had has, knock on wood, worked amazingly.

  • @BubbafromSapperton
    @BubbafromSapperton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2250 for years, thing was built like a tank but had incandescent which were always burning-out and the pushbutton switches iffy over the 20 years I had it. A 2270 goes for about $1,000 where I live so you got a good deal... 🤗

  • @jimtalor7971
    @jimtalor7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in the early 80's use to have my "tower of power" as I call it...dbx..sansui..yamaha..technics..Bose etc. As I got old(er) easy listening was my goal. Kept my bose 901's, expansion dbx and my sansui au d9 this time hooked them up to my computer for music selection. Just love the old/new setup.

    • @jaydee6268
      @jaydee6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By DBX, do you mean the range expander? If do, how do you use it with your current setup? Just with your turn table?

    • @jimtalor7971
      @jimtalor7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydee6268 Its the 1bx series 2 which is hooked up to the Amp Aux,output signal from Amp to computer usb. For phono I still got it hooked straight to Amp, for me Lps have enough dynamic range,, no need for a single band
      Dbx.

  • @HerecomestheCalavera
    @HerecomestheCalavera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've gotten many receivers over the years from thrift stores. Anytime I see one for a good price I have to get it even if I already have 10 extra ones sitting around! I am wondering how you and other people who are in the know about audio equipment would rate my current setup I have for my PC audio. The receiver is a Sherwood RD-6106 that I got for $8. The speakers are Phillips model MX940SSS. The price for those was actually free. They are from a surround system my brother had in the late 90s. I believe the year they were produced is 1997. I think they sound pretty good. The subwoofer I have is an RCA SP0500AW which cost me either $5 or $10. I did have a really good Sony subwoofer but one day it wouldn't power on anymore. Imo the RCA isn't quite as good as the Sony but it still puts out some pretty good bass. So total for the whole setup is around $15-$20.
    I also have a classic setup in my backroom with record/cassette/8-track/CD and Minidisc. I don't have the model of the speakers on hand at the moment but the receiver is a JVC RX-701V. It is one of the more expensive receivers I've bought as it was $15. But it was in great condition and had an awesome look to it. If I'm remembering correctly it is from around 1987.
    I have several other receivers just sitting around unused. One of them I need to hook up and try out is a Pioneer VSX-818V. It looks like it is a fairly high end model and it was only $5. It is from 2008.
    I know this is a very long post but if you took the time to read it all thank you!

  • @MrJason9142002
    @MrJason9142002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the Yamaha version of that. It is well worth the money. It pushed a lot of speakers that needed more power

    • @robjones8733
      @robjones8733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love me some Yamaha!

  • @tf7274
    @tf7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I run a Marantz 2220b(20w) into a Kenwood Eleven iii(120w)...good way to get Marantz warmth into the monster Kenwood...then I run Technics SB-2766(12 inch) and SB-2744(10 inch) at the same time. Good Technics speakers were never sold with amps that could make them sing... now I have rumble and punch. I have stopped buying as nothing has sounded better.

  • @Audiorevue
    @Audiorevue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even need to watch your video but I will comment regardless and say that in my experience some of the best Hi-Fi sound that I've ever heard has come out of the cheapest components. And I'm not talking about things like soundstage or clarity or you felt like the musician was in the room. What I'm talking about is simply enjoying the music you're listening to. Because too often when you have all the subjective high-end audio things going on you tend to end up with this very technically impressive sound but not a very comfortable sound and certainly not a very enjoyable sound at least not to me. It very much reminds me of driving a really fancy sports car. A few years back I had a opportunity to test drive a Ferrari I forget which model but anyway I drove the thing and I was thinking man this thing is impressive on so many levels and the quality of workmanship and of the motor and and the interior and everything was just fantastic. But after about a mile where the tight rough suspension was beating me to death and I finally realized how cramped I was in the seat I couldn't help but think to myself that man this car sucks. Man give me a minivan any day and I'm a happy camper, just like give me a three or $400 integrated amp and I'm a happy camper

  • @gt-37guy6
    @gt-37guy6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I owned three similar vintage Sony Receivers, the nicest one failed a year ago, the other two still work great. An 80 watt on my desktop computer sound system, the other cheap 100 watt Sony I bought for $100 new from Best buy around 2006 is used to power a really cool old console stereo I found at Goodwill for $40 - a '64 RCA tube console with 12" 4 Way Alnico speaker system - it really sounds very good, the old tube amp powers up but needs work, the speakers were like new however. They seemed to finally break in by me really USING them - instead of the Lawrence Welk music and local radio they probably played in the day. Love old stereos....

  • @commonman317
    @commonman317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have my Kenwood KR-V6040 receiver from 1992. It has a "Discrete Power Amp", which I believe means it runs cooler. I've put it thru its paces. Even after cranking it up for a couple of hours at a time, it is barely warm to the touch. To me, they sure don't make things like this anymore. Very happy.

  • @gcb2home
    @gcb2home 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! This was my first viewing of one of your videos & I really enjoyed it! As a result I am now a subscriber. It appears that you & I share a similar interest in vintage audio gear. I too, have a small accumulation (collection?) of vintage audio gear. Most of my old gear is equipment I have either kept, from back-in-the-day, when I purchased it new or stuff I stumbled across at garage sales, in thrift stores, or were given by friends that were getting rid of it, in favor of the latest, greatest, & most-up-to-datest AV gear. I really enjoyed your comparison of your vintage Marantz vs. the much newer Sony using two relatively modern speaker systems. That is very much an apples vs. apples comparison & I really appreciated it! In my own case, I have several vintage speaker systems from the early '70's, most notably some Pioneer CS-R600, that are painfully bright & practically unlistenable to on modern electronics, but really sound good on the older gear that have enough power to adequately drive them. But colored sound? Oh boy, are they colored! But, they represented one of the best examples of the old "West Coast Sound" that was voiced to make Rock & Roll, Jazz, Blues, etc. sound great, but don't sound good at all on Classical Music. I have also found the same to be true of the vintage electronics. Some of my older '70's receivers sound kinda dull & lifeless when matched up with the wrong modern speaker. Another issue that I run into with my gear is, much of it is low-power, sometimes only 15-20 or maybe 30 w/ch. at the most. So, I have to be really conscience of what speakers I try to drive with them. But, all in all I love listening to my old gear & listen to most of it regularly while working out in garage. My garage seems to be a Jurassic Park of vintage audio gear, but I do try to keep my old gear in good shape & take my audio dinosaurs out for a regular gallop. Lots of fun for sure!
    Btw, I would love to hear more about the obviously digital source you were using in this video. Thank you again for such a great video! I really enjoyed it!

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska6542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the exact same sony receiver. I have a technics eq hooked up also. I have 2 sony surround speakers hooked to a powered suboofer and the sub is hooked to the sonys speaker A. Speakers B is still open . The amp is sounding really good with the equilizer. The subwoofer is a rca 12inch 200watt powered suboofer with a replaced 8ohm 12inch 300watt phoenix gold and it pumps alot of bass. Budget stereo but loud and powerful with the extra eq and sub . I love it.

  • @RedneckPunk
    @RedneckPunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I still have the pioneer sx 1250 I bought in 1987. It's better sounding than any of these crap receivers today.

    • @LarryCook1960
      @LarryCook1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the same model, an incredible beast of a receiver, but sold it, and other things not absolutely needed before moving. I kept a Hafler amp and Carver Pre-amp however :).

  • @hondomiljkovic1885
    @hondomiljkovic1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Marantz amplifier is older than 25 years and still works without any issues even with modern Philips devices (optical interfaces, one remote control for all devices, etc.). The more modern sound electronics I owned are broken and have had to be replaced. Maybe there are more advanced amplifiers on the market with a better sound, but I am not going to replace my ancient Marantz until it is broken. You just can't get the quality any more you got in the past. I hope my sound equipment will last until the end of all days. Enjoy your nice sound equipment and may your Marantz last forever!

  • @alibertylover
    @alibertylover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have all of my Tandberg equipment from the 70s

  • @YouTubeAIbot
    @YouTubeAIbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:18 you can adjust that in settings, I have this receiver

  • @VintageStereoCollectorChannel
    @VintageStereoCollectorChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dave,
    Super vid, I like your approach and delivery in presenting your topic. 2 thumbs up!
    The Sony unit looks like it’s brand new, great shape.
    I collect a lot of vintage Luxman separates from the late 70s, and late 80s. KEF 104/2 speakers from 1984. I would like a Marantz 2270 like yours, maybe someday.
    Nice work Dave!

  • @Badassvidsz
    @Badassvidsz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Marantz for me

  • @FortyTwoAnswerToEverything
    @FortyTwoAnswerToEverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a DE845 (if I remember correctly) and it was the most harshest sounding surround sound receiver I've ever had

  • @fabrizioriceputi4482
    @fabrizioriceputi4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2270 is one of the best amps in the world, often compared to $ 1000 amps, he has always won

    • @23chilled
      @23chilled 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bold statement. Personal preference in amplifiers. I’ve heard many. One of the sweetest sounding I’ve liked is the nad 3020e (slimline looking) and best built goes hands down the pioneer a91d. Overall sound im still on that quest. I’ve many amps, etc but I know there is a huge market of used or new amplifiers with their own unique signature

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch my Sansui vs Marantz video and see what I think: th-cam.com/video/pM_7EOfewQg/w-d-xo.html

  • @noahman27
    @noahman27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 1986 Kyocera 65Watts/ch...still works perfectly.

  • @Stonecones
    @Stonecones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually upgraded my pioneer sx-828 and got a sony strdh590 5.2, the ability to have surround sound is nice, and the sound seems cleaner to me, but my front speakers are just speakers now, when before they vibrated the whole house on own, klh model 23's.

  • @hennessy4666
    @hennessy4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a hifi entuziast which owns about 200 units , amps , deck , cd s , everything , for some reason i didnt own a vintage marantz until last week when i got a little 1515 receiver .........after one week of listening and testing , i wanna say MARANTZ OLD RECEIVERS WORTH EVERY PENNY , this is best sound i ever heard .

  • @davestevens4193
    @davestevens4193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my 2270. First receiver I bought.

  • @hagbard72
    @hagbard72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a veteran of the receiver wars. Still suffer PTSD from it.

  • @olvinyldude
    @olvinyldude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job, Dave ! I have used Technics for many, many, many years..(Still have a few put away, Belt Drive and they still work great ) I must say, I have been spoiled with my Technics 1200GLD's,
    they are so easy on the eyes, and so easy & forgiving to operate ! ( I keep a few MK's in coffin boxes for shows) I only use the Ortofon 2M Black in my videos, (Occasional 2M Blue or Bronze for certain effects) and am very happy with the sound qualities... Enjoy that set-up, you have some very good equipment there ! ! ! OH.... And KEEP PLAYING THE MUSIC ! ! ! I just subbed, for your future updates... Enjoy the Music! We own 46,000 + vinyl records, so we do all the time...Vinyl.. Only way to hear Music...😉🎶

  • @greydogmusic
    @greydogmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 6:55 “audiophile quality sound” please define that. What is it and how do I tell if my system has achieved it.

  • @SteveDave29
    @SteveDave29 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I would love to see a video comparing Marantz with Macintosh. I'm familiar with macintosh's sound. I can't get to anywhere to hear Mcintosh. Pricewise at for me right now even vintage, it's unobtanium...

  • @michaelgalanos981
    @michaelgalanos981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Marantz is 50x the price the law of deminising returns applies here.

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks scalper for making people have to buy a new, crappier electronic.

  • @artiehall7708
    @artiehall7708 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this is 3 years old, but I wonder if the previous owners of the Sony programmed in a "smiley face" EQ? It wouldn't have reset by being unplugged and moved to a new home. You'd have to dig through the menu's to find it.

  • @randytolen9531
    @randytolen9531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got the "bug"......decided I wanted to get a vintage late 70's receiver (not high end at all) from back in the High School days.....I've spent lots of time on ebay lately!

    • @PA-Tammy
      @PA-Tammy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SX-780 all day.

  • @trumjohannsmancave
    @trumjohannsmancave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fun channel! Cheers from Stockholm Sweden🇸🇪

  • @jorgbornefeld1689
    @jorgbornefeld1689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, why does the Sony boost bass and treble? Did you increase bass and treble? Normally it should sound neutral if bass and treble are in the middle!

  • @Vazhaspa
    @Vazhaspa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To play CD's I just got an old Pioneer for only $50. It works excellent in synergy with my DAC (iFi Pro iDSD) and amplifier (Parasound Halo 21) ...

  • @Megamanx305
    @Megamanx305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi , great video. Can you elaborate on the reason why it is not a good idea to buy A/V equipment? I never owned one. How is it “outdated” ? Thanks in advance.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AV receivers have been around for decades now and there are tons of them listed online for cheap. They are often not very user friendly and are useless without the remote. If you want a straightforward two channel system and do critical listening, stick with a dedicated stereo unit. However, for background music or a garage system, a $30 old Denon or Yamaha AV receiver may suit you fine.

  • @harbonip
    @harbonip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wondering if you remember the stores in the Midwest called ,Playback ? They use to sale there house brand receivers ,amp's and turners cassette player/records ? Those products where very nice for the price,with there warranty, quality was very nice,they almost looked like the Pioneer products, but better, check one of those receiver, amp,pre-amps, or tuners if tour into that stuff . Yeah Project-one receivers ,25,35,50,and 100 watt receivers. I made a hell of a lots of bonuses of those Project -one Products .I thought those receivers where better then ,Sony ,Technic's, Marantz, and those others , I use to compare it with Macintosh. Just an idea ?

  • @chuckfinley5206
    @chuckfinley5206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever heard of Sunfire audio equipment. I have a place that gives me all the electronics they get in. Got the Sunfire unit one day from them. It had a list price of around 4 grand when it came out.
    I do pick up a lot of junk too. Buts that's just part of the deal. I just take it all and sort through it.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sunfire is Bob Carvers brand since 1994.

    • @chuckfinley5206
      @chuckfinley5206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MODAC ya... I Googled it back when I got it. Kinda interesting the history behind it. Tried to find a remote for it but the only one I could find was 80 bucks. Kinda defeats the purpose of a free receiver paying 80 for a remote.

  • @AudioElectronicsChicago
    @AudioElectronicsChicago 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Marantz 2270 is a great, classic and sweet sounding and looking receiver but very pricy
    This Sony will be a great budget receiver with good entry level sound for the price

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you. Thanks.

  • @ronbradshaw7404
    @ronbradshaw7404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll take an old Soundesign low-fi, before any modern BPC piece-o-crap!

    • @DGMarceau
      @DGMarceau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry, Soundesign was pretty bad unless compared to York. I had one in the mid 70s and when I purchased Pioneer 9500II separates with HPM-100 speakers I could never look at a Soundesign the same way again. It was horrible. I think the Soundesign weight was around 25 lbs including speakers. The Pioneer amp, tuner and speakers was close to 200 lbs. As you can imagine, the upgrade was quite a mind blowing experience and well worth working all summer to save enough money to purchase it from my oldest brother. He owned it about 6 months and decided he had to have the SX-1980 monster receiver. I think I paid 1200 for it when I was 14 years old and it was worth every penny. Too bad it was destroyed in a house fire in 1990 or I would still have it today. Used that equipment to accompany drum practice and at many parties though out HS and college and never had a problem. Great memories.

    • @ronbradshaw7404
      @ronbradshaw7404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DGMarceau You know i was sarcastic right?! :)

  • @daveponder2754
    @daveponder2754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    NO! Plus by the time one replaces deteriorated components, and realigns the amp, and tuner the cost goes through the roof. I am an Electronics Engineer and paid performing musician. I want to hear MUSIC.

    • @teekay_1
      @teekay_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually refurbishing is much simpler than you imply I've completely recapped a receiver in under 8 hours total time, and generally most of the other components are just fine even 50 years later. There are transistors that are on a "replace" list but that's usually only to fix a weakness that was in the original design. Most guys will provide that service for $600 and when you add in the cost of an old Marantz/Sansui/Pioneer receiver/integrated amp is quite a bargain. There is a shop near me that specializes in refurbished gear and you can get a nice mid-range receiver for just over $1K, which is a bargain, even compared to the new price of these units.

  • @driverat8s
    @driverat8s ปีที่แล้ว

    My first, M91ED

  • @rwfrench66GenX
    @rwfrench66GenX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are so many things that go into "sound", but I presume you're going to use the same room, same speakers, same EQ settings, same audio signal, and same source (phono vs. CD). Marantz wasn't exactly state of the art. I mean, 70 watts per channel with .3% total harmonic distortion. I'm sure you're used to the Marantz sound and that has conditioned your ears for what you compare everything else to. I mean, lower model Sony's aren't known for good sound quality either and you have the STR-DH130 which is 100 watts per channel at 1% total harmonic distortion so it's twice the distortion and with only 30 watts more power you would get less than 1.5dB of extra sound because at 64 watts you'd need to go to 128 watts to get 3dB of more sound from your speakers. I personally wouldn't audition any amp that had more that .05% THD. Back in the 80's I had a Pioneer amp, the A-90 that was 200 watts per channel with .002% THD. This was the first integrated amp to eliminate switching distortion between the low and high voltage power supplies by using push-pull circuitry between the two supplie. I also had a 2/3rd octave 17 band per channel graphic EQ that went from 16Hz - 25KHz with .001% THD, the SG-90. I also had Pioneer S-910 speakers that used polymergraphite cones (12" for the woofers) with 4" midranges that had unlimited headroom! I also had the PL-88FS front loading programmable turntable where the turntable would pop out, you'd put the album on the platter, and you could either play it inside or outside. The cartridge also had a light and would detect the lines between songs so you could program what songs to play in what order in case you wanted to skip around. That stereo ruined me for sound quality! When I'd play Aja with the speaker grilles off the wind from the speaker ports when Steve Gadd starts doing those triplets would blow your hair back from 6 feet away! I'll have to admit I always wanted a pair of Polk SDA-SRS speakers but I had plenty of fun with those Pioneer speakers!

  • @AudiophileTubes
    @AudiophileTubes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The artwork in your video looks a lot like the artist on the album covers of The Beautiful South! Do you know who the artist is?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me! David Cutter.

    • @AudiophileTubes
      @AudiophileTubes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MODAC WOW, what a small world! My wife and I are huge fans of The Beautiful South and your amazing artwork! Amazing how I just randomly came across you, just because of my passion for audio gear! Cheers from Cleveland, Ohio!

  • @PioneerGuy581
    @PioneerGuy581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    rebuilding some pioneers sx828 - sx880 - sx737 right now.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed, the Marantz is a better machine. I too was surprised at the build quality of the Sony---I really thought it would have "amp on a chip" design at that price point, and a power supply of that size suggests there's at least a fair amount of current going to the rails

  • @arthurwatts1680
    @arthurwatts1680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Head over to Audiokarma - they've still got the 'scR0e' crowd allegedly finding vintage McIntosh and tubed Marantz amps on the kerbside. I'm guessing they pick them up in the vintage musclecar they found in a barn in South Carolina and drove away for a song ;)

  • @danielrhoden2973
    @danielrhoden2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great real world review.

  • @milroykoelmeyer
    @milroykoelmeyer ปีที่แล้ว

    To me in srilaka nothing like A Japanese "Sony (Beautiful Vgood Quality &durable )
    l Love Sony .

  • @erwintorsy6573
    @erwintorsy6573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have my Technics Su-7300K and Tuner ST-7300K whit the SL-3310 back from 1977-78, it blows a Onkyo home theater network receiver of the table whit music.
    It never has service in 40years only the lightbulbs replaced couple time also the record player still works fine after giving it some drops of oil now and then.
    In the "70 they made sound systems on high quality standards but when the "80 started.. oh my its getting junk and plastic whit cheap components, but they did it because of economical cost reducing otherwise the cost getting so high that normal people can not buy it anymore because of the high prices.
    The 90" omy more plastic junk and midi systems came along whit cheaper and cheaper components and there race stared whit PMPO power and the Remaster and loudness war whit CD's what a terrible time it was for music.
    Glad the loudness war is over and vinyl is still used by modern bands !

  • @sc0or
    @sc0or 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder will a Chinese $25 TPA D-class overplay $25 Sony in case you don't need all the features "in a garage"?

  • @LodianRB
    @LodianRB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do the belt drive and direct drive turntables compare to each other? Have a technics and Pioneer (DD) but can only connect one. Does it matter?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the different parts of the TT are important. I made a video called “The Golden Age of Turntables” a few months ago. You should watch it as I discuss the three different ways to spin a platter. You want steady speed and low noise. Which has a better tonearm and is more solidly built?

  • @huskypup3489
    @huskypup3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with those vintage receivers is that the potentiometers and selector knobs go bad, resulting in all manner of dropouts in the sound from one or both channels.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easily fixed. Clean with Deoxit.

    • @huskypup3489
      @huskypup3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MODAC That doesn’t always work.

  • @ooyginyardel4835
    @ooyginyardel4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You knew that before you started.

  • @JoseGarcia-oo4mc
    @JoseGarcia-oo4mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks .

  • @JoseGarcia-oo4mc
    @JoseGarcia-oo4mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Dave my name is Jose I yes saw your video on cheap receivers, the reason I’m looking for an inexpensive receiver do you have any idea which are good?

    • @robjones8733
      @robjones8733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jose, I am biased, but I respectfully suggest watching for a 5.1 Yamaha on craigslist or FB marketplace. Folks are dumping these for 7.1 or whatever the numbers are now. Just picked one up myself for the pending mancave 😸 good luck! Oh if you like Jazz watch for DCM Timeframe or CX27 speakers. I love my TF 600's.

  • @rwhealthy
    @rwhealthy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What music was used? Really like it

  • @festersuncle6298
    @festersuncle6298 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I was at the edge of my seat.....hahaha

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great for 25 bucks

  • @gman913
    @gman913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair a receiver valued at approximately 2650.00 would be required to match the 550.00 1975 price of the Marantz due to inflation.

  • @bobharley2814
    @bobharley2814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME

  • @jumpsuite
    @jumpsuite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    now for my next trick.

  • @AI-pu6zv
    @AI-pu6zv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old school always wins

  • @robertdavis5714
    @robertdavis5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have a couple of those new stereo receivers (Yamaha & HK) sitting in my closet, my opinion I have a Pioneer SX780 and SX980 and there is no comparison and why the new stuff sits in the closet.

    • @PA-Tammy
      @PA-Tammy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't beat the looks of the SX-xx80s.

  • @srilankatropicaltours1287
    @srilankatropicaltours1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking for genuine spareparts to repair my 1010G amp .here we are getting lots of bad stuff .there is no original parts to buy.please let me know how and where to buy original parts .thanks .you are doing great work .!!

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best place I know of for spare parts is eBay.

    • @kjetilvalde2788
      @kjetilvalde2788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For equipment i plan to keep running for a long time l usually buy from Digikey. I repair / restores a lot of audio equipment from late 70s to late 90s. Usually i get them going with parts from my stash (from eBay, reused or oter left over). When i got a good list of parts, i place an order at Digikey, and swap the parts. I need to put in orders above the free shipping limit, or else the shipping cost to me in Norway would be excessively high.

  • @R3TR0R4V3
    @R3TR0R4V3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Marantz! I'm rocking a 2230 myself. Awesome sounding, beautiful receivers. 👍👍
    Say, If you can track down a Pioneer RC-760, you can add remote capability (to a degree) to pretty much any vintage receiver.. At least power off/on & volume. ;-) Check 'em out! There's a similar Sansui unit as well, I bet can't recall the model off the top of my head. Cheers 🍻

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 2230 as well. Thanks

  • @joshuajhoyt
    @joshuajhoyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I have klipsch kg3.5 towers too

  • @richardjones4018
    @richardjones4018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That doesn't look 19" to me. Did you mean 17"?

  • @boddiesbuddy1380
    @boddiesbuddy1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would have been nice to compare the sound quality of the radio reception.

    • @MadScientistsLair
      @MadScientistsLair 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Marantz, assuming it has had a recent tuner alignment, would destroy it. Tuners in most new receivers, even quite a few top of the line AV receivers, are mere afterthoughts these days. The selectivity of modern "off the shelf" tuner modules is decent enough for many but the sensitivity leaves much to be desired if you're outside of an urban area.

  • @FabiusMaximus1000
    @FabiusMaximus1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew a guy that bought a VCR from someone in a parking lot once. It turned out to be a box with bricks in it.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happened to me! They were logs.

    • @FabiusMaximus1000
      @FabiusMaximus1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MODAC Oh no! I remember those Marantz receivers were plentiful and less expensive years back.

  • @Texan1048
    @Texan1048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can answer without watching this- no. Absolutely not. No modern receiver will sound like vintage receivers, let alone something in the Marantz class. They won't push large speakers, they won't have the volume, and they won't have the separation or clarity at 50-75% volume. Been there, tried that. A few in the ending days of phono inputs come within an acceptable range, but still won't do what the old receivers did.

  • @XARISAMENOS
    @XARISAMENOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a marantz 2238b and a sony str 6055...believe it or not but this sony its much better...

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the Marantz gets all aged and dried out electrolytics replaced with new low ESR Sanyo or Nichicon caps the machine will put any modern 10.000 Euro High End amp to a shame!

  • @1j007zm
    @1j007zm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When I 16 yrs old (1978), I saved enough money (part time jobs), to purchase a Marantz 2220B receiver, I liked it so much that when I was working full time (1981) I purchased a Marantz 2265B, to this day I still have them both and they still ROCK!. The sound quality on these things is amazing, many people tell me they like the sound better than their surround sound systems. p.s. the Bose 601's also help

    • @rianredfield5252
      @rianredfield5252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My advice is dump the Bose for some real speakers! Sure quality sound, but there's much better and similarly priced.

    • @1j007zm
      @1j007zm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rianredfield5252 Yeah I know Bose can be overrated, but they were a gift from my nephew and sounded better than my old Marantz's. I've been looking at some Klipsch RP 150's for my 2220B and some RP 600's for my 2265B. Come on stimulus!

    • @craigellsworth3952
      @craigellsworth3952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the little Marantz also. Was a good little unit.

    • @solice8844
      @solice8844 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hooked up my JBL speakers to my mid 2000s Marantz 5.1 surround sound receiver and it sounded like crap compared to my 70s Marantz 2270.

  • @fabrizioriceputi4482
    @fabrizioriceputi4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am a professional musician, violinist, passionate about different genres from classical to jazz to pop, my 2270 has surpassed in quality and sound amplifiers costing over 10.000 euros, detail, timbre of the instruments, deep bass, magnificent sound of the voices, the only ones that come close are the vintage Luxman L series

    • @buckethead84
      @buckethead84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      10k euros? Really? And I'm sure you heard everything in between.

    • @ChillToMusic87
      @ChillToMusic87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knobster

  • @iamtheoceanr
    @iamtheoceanr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I listen to my 2270 just about every evening. Paired with either sacd's or flac's or even spotify, it is my all time favorite stereo. The headphobe section sounds amazing too.

  • @michaelhubbell1260
    @michaelhubbell1260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I got one of those Sony receivers for $6 at a thrift store, sounds great!

    • @Kulumuli
      @Kulumuli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, for the money these are a steal.