it needed more lanes. 2 lanes on each side for that "new bridge" for a potential for 3 lanes on each side is simply not enough. should've went with 4. you're going to run into the same issues as the old bridge with traffic.
ahah great footage. loved the music choice. I will miss the old Pattullo! grew up in surrey. worked in new west for ages and would cross all the time. sketchy but it has so much character. The new bridge still being only a 4 lane is such a stupid choice
Taking the existing Patullo bridge was interesting. Used to frequent that area when I was attending Dougie Daycare. That curved bottlenecked approach on the New West side was sometimes adventurous. Seen some cars do complete circles if their tires weren't up to par.
The Northside has always been a mess. From the first time I saw the roads they have changed it at least five times to try to make it better. I'm just not sure what will happen to the outfeed roads on the North. None of which are designed for more, or even the current level, of traffic. :(
It can be easily expanded to a 6 lane bridge when the roads on either side are capable of handling that traffic. Much of McBride and King George blvrds will need to be widened for that to have much benefit first.
@@robmyckatynit was originally supposed to be this year, but then it was pushed to 2025 with no set month listed on the construction website… seeing the state of it now I am also thinking 2026
In my mind, 6 lanes would not add "more" traffic entering New West... a 3rd outer lane northbound would exit onto East Columbia, so the inside 2 lanes would be status quo. A 3rd lane southbound would accommodate the traffic from the new ramp that will serve bridge-bound vehicles from East Columbia, eliminating the merging that will have to happen because we only get 4 lanes, which means that all of the bridge-bound traffic on Royal, McBride, and East Columbia will have to funnel into 2 lanes southbound. So... I'm really curious to see what traffic will be like when the new bridge finally opens.
It's 4 + 2 HOV so far as I have heard. 6 lanes is fine, considering Scott Road and KGB on the Surrey side, and Columbia both ways and McBride on the other. If they can make better approaches, it will smooth things out.
@@wyldhowl2821 I've heard all along that it will open with 4 lanes, at the insistence of New Westminster city hall. Personally, I think there should also be a tunnel built under New West to connect East Columbia to Stewardson... and a proper freeway connection solution for all of that clogged traffic at Braid St.
@@KOZMOGRAFX I head 4 lanes plus 2 HOV, but if that is at New West's insistence that is new information, and not the fault f the province then. I would have thought New West would want to have the extra traffic lane as it is Columbia, McBride, Royal Ave. that get clogged during rush hour, trying to squeeze what is (currently) 4 lanes of approaching traffic into just 2 lanes of bridge.
@@wyldhowl2821 New West (governance) is funny... historically, they refuse any notion of expanding roadways thru the city for fear of increased traffic, yet they seem to be quite content with all of the noise and spew with Royal Ave being clogged END TO END during rush hour. King George and McBride are not freeways... if it were up to me, I'd put a light at the north end of the Patullo so that both lanes of Royal and both lanes of McBride could alternate, which would eliminate all of that ridiculous merging that has to happen. It would be a heck of a lot more relaxing to be in either lane knowing that you will get on the bridge without having to change lanes.
@@KOZMOGRAFX Aye, it's a thought. Then there's Queensborough. Another nightmare. There is no getting around the fact that New West is smack in the middle of Metro Vancouver, like a hub between everywhere and everywhere else.
The new Massey TUNNEL needs to be built ASAP (to hell with that bridge nonsense down there). However, after these, they should already be planning for a new Queensborough bridge next (6 lanes at least much better approaches FFS). After that Knight, after that Oak, after that Arthur Laing. Sounds like a lot, but that is over a long term, probably something like 20 years. The population in Metro Vancouver (or Lower mainland anyway) has been jumping up by something like 100000 every year. These bridge improvements are needed, and much more mass transit too. Can't go wrong building what is needed. The worst sin is how elected officials fail to plan beyond their own little 4 or 5 years in power.
Yes, a newer safer bridge. But it should have been 6 lanes to avoid the traffic having to merge which slows down traffic in rush hour. No improvement over the current bridge for traffic flow.
Awesome video! I can't wait till it's done! As a Senior and a cyclist who likes to ride to the Quay from Surrey, that 'ole sidewalk on Pattulla is suicidal! This crossing is a Godsend ... for sure!
@@ModernProjectManager Dang! Sorry to hear that brother! It's really sad at how many accidents, fatalities and insurance claims were directly caused because of that old 1937 Patullo design, 87 years old! It really needed to be decommissioned and torn down way back in 1970 when we had our 'Muscle Cars' racing across it .... yikes, at least none of us lost it! lol
This is for all you negative naysayers who don't have a clue about this bridge! Surrey, insisted to have 6 lanes .... BUT .... _'Liberal'_ New Westminster said; _"No"_ ....so. the planning and designing came to a compromise which was _'magically'_ negotiated and approved! This bridge is special because what it has is this! It will be a 4-lane bridge ... FOR NOW ... the bridge also includes a safe pedestrian/cyclist pathway where this makes it special! The width of this great bridge is WIDER than what the eye can see! What this means is that *WHEN* it comes to overwhelming vehicular traffic, and it will happen, then the so-call _'Rabbit-is-pulled-out-of-the-hat'_ magic trick happens! As mentioned, the widening is in the engineering of the design that when time comes, the pedestrian/cyclist pathway will be incorporated on both sides making for the 6-car lanes .... got that? So, about the pathway, well that's also in the special design feature which will simply be outwardly extended as _'wings'_ so-to-speak, being built on to the sides add-ons making for a FULL 6-lane modern bridge and a FULL pedestrian/cyclist pathway (on both sides!) So, for the naysayers with negative comments .... DROP IT ..... everything is in place which was DECIDED LONG BEFORE the drafted drawings even had their pencils sharpened.
Hmmm.....are there 6 lane roads leading up to and off the bridge at both ends....no. So that explains the design. If you've ever been to a concert and noticed 400 people trying to go through a single turn-style....that is what would happen coming off a 6 lane bridge to a 4 lane roadway.
Any project on infrastructure is welcoming. Soon we will have a new bridge, that's great. Ottawa should focus more on improving our country, look at nearby Hwy 17 which is major commercial transport corridor, that is crumbling and insufficient to handle today's traffic. What leaders are elected for, is to use people hard earned money wisely to make Canada a better country, this should always come first. Rather than diverting time and money on other agenda
The Pattullo bridge project is slow but its getting there at least. COVID delayed it, but I bet you the 2021 floods delayed it more, when suddenly every railway and highway had bridges destroyed between the Lower Mainland and interior of BC. That was a true emergency, so how much do you think had to be suddenly diverted to rebuild highways 99, 1, 5, 3, and 8 ? Probably lost a year of labour & money just from that, plus the supply/inflation crisis globally.
It’s because New Westminster didn’t want it to be more than 4 lanes. They worry they won’t be able to handle everyone going through that bridge if they make it wider since most of their roads are 2 lanes.
@@jazzizz1509 The bridge leads onto McBride Blvd, which is 4 lanes. New Westminster uses that to rationalize the size of the bridge. In reality the offramps lead onto McBride and Royal Ave. There's no reason other than cost to not have two lanes onto McBride and two onto Royal.
I’ve been watching the construction of the Gordie Howe bridge out east(similar drone channel), and it is built with nice white painted steel girders etc. Why would they not prepaint/epoxy this one’s components ? Or is it simply painted a rusty metal colour ? Nice flights once again.👍👍
It is likely a Corten steel, which requires no painting - which makes sense for a water crossing. Otherwise, it would have to be painted every 20 years, which is a major undertaking. Corten is designed to produce a 'protective' layer of oxidation, and not impact the structural integrity of the steel, and does not require painting.
Yup, 30 years late, 1.3 billion and it’s…….. wait for it….. four lanes wide. With bike lanes on either side and an option to expand to 6 vehicle lanes. We need 8 lanes right now. Leave it to the inept loser government to do everything to late and impractical. Oh and that 1.3 billion is going to triple.
We need 8 lane roads in New Westminster and Surrey then. City after city has played the game of widening roads to fix their traffic problems and it never works. You want to cut down on traffic? Upgrade public transit.
8 lanes to go to where? to New westminster and surrey? that wont solve any problem, that bridge is going to Cities with traffic light on less of a mile after you crossed, not to high ways.
The bridge is holding with the huge guidewires which standings in the middle of the Fraser River. Check out at 3:48 and you will notice there are holes along the upper section and each hole holds one guidewire.
a 4 lane replacing a 4 lane bridge....yep.....hey wheres that tunnel replacement, oh right still doing a enviro study, i guess the bridge one wasn't good enough.
@@roberthowell7095 ...which means there that the new bridge will have to be torn down and replaced in 30 years with a 6-lane one, which *_*will*_* make *_this_* new bridge a *_HUGE_* waste of taxpayers' money!!! 🙄😑😠😠😠😤😤😤😮💨😮💨😮💨👎👎👎🙄😑
@@StevenVillman Apparently they can add the extra lanes on the bike and pedestrian lanes and move those to the outside of the bridge. The point being they planned the bridge for 6 lanes. Why not do it now, now matter what New West wanted. Read all the comments from your average citizen and we can see the folly in this 4 lane bridge.
Brooklyn bridge built in 1867 and going strong ; Pattullo bridge built in 1937, lets replace a 4 lane bridge with a NEW 4 lane bridge in 2024 for the GVRD, while population has more than tripled since 1937 we are STILL building a 4 lane bridge. yes studies say that's the way to go ????? 🤔🤔 DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE this 😂😂😂😂 ; think we would learn from past cable bridges and our winters ; i will have a good laugh when lanes close due to weather conditions ; we now have a 2 lane bridge ; 1 lane each way 😂😂 tax dollars wasted !! yes yours ... and mine
@@ModernProjectManager YEAH but not filling in between super structure.? i see they have to have a barrier btween raw iron and concrete. LIKE a foundation seal plate plastic used in houses btwn foundation concrete and wood plate. !!! What is the inbetween connection is what i am interested in.
Nice video. But I think this new bridge design is a definitely a waste of time and effort and energy and of course money more importantly, it should have been 4 lanes or 5 or 6 lanes on either side of this new bridge!!!!!!
"The Mayors’ Council approved a four-lane bridge designed not to preclude a potential future expansion to six lanes. The Province will monitor the new bridge’s traffic performance and will consult with the municipalities and the Mayors’ Council to develop an appropriate response to the bridge’s traffic performance. Expansion to six lanes would be put into place only after consultation among the Province, Indigenous groups, the cities of New Westminster and Surrey and the Mayors’ Council. If the bridge were to be expanded, the walking and cycling lanes would become vehicle lanes, and new walking and cycling paths would be added to the outside of the bridge, cantilevered from the existing structure."
Tax payers: why won't you add more lanes? Also tax payers after adding more lanes: Why can't you allocate those funds elsewhere? Traffic hasn't improved with the added lanes.
@@chrislippingwell3587 it’s actually speeding up! looking back at my early footage, there is lots of progress! I am publishing new video soon that is a recap of this week. Thank you for the support!
Bikes and emergency vehicles would be great. But there are costs to maintain it. It is being replaced not because it is inadequate for traffic, but because it is dangerously narrow and at the end of it's lifespan. Two bridges leading into the same area would just move the congestion from the bridge to wherever the dual-bridge traffic merges.
@@troygach9228 when the iron within the steels undergoes oxidation, it rusts. It’s beautiful. The rust does not penetrate deeply, so it’s okay and beautiful.
Yes it does look pretty sweet and yes you are right, it does rust faster in some areas than other's 👍 Cool video and thank you so much for taking the time to share with us all
This one can be turned into a 6 lane once the demand is there. The road systems on either side, in New Westminster and Surrey, will need to be widened to make use of the at many lanes. What's the point of adding another in each direction if cars are just going to be bottlenecked not too far up the road and back it up anyways?
The joke to me is that we built an entirely separate bridge for skytrain when we could have replaced the 4 lane road and included skytrain on one bridge at the same time. Probably saving hundreds of millions in the process.
You can blame new west for the size of the new bridge. New west is a horrendous bottle neck that refuses to adapt and change with our growing population because they have in in their heads that they are somehow an important historical landmark. Their disdain for traffic dispite having horrible transit is what brought about this decision. However, I take the pattulo sometimes in the morning. With the amount of commercial vehicles that need to take up two lanes when they cross, i would hardly call the current bridge a 4 lane bridge. Ill happily accept the upgrade if it means we wont be stuck behind a dumptruck taking booth lanes crossing at 20km/h.
Can anyone shed light on which politician in charge of the 4 lane design criteria? We need accountability record here. I know Horgen cancelled the bridges over massey tunnel.
@@TheIn2world Johnstone said the current four-lane design was selected after extensive community consultation and in an agreement between the cities of Surrey and New Westminster along with TransLink.Feb 15, 2023
WHAT is taking so long to build this bridge. It looks like nothing has changed in the last 9 months. I think I counted about 8 guys actually on the bridge.. And the same amount of lanes as the old bridge.....? Painful. How many bureaucrats' did it take to approve THAT brilliant design?
They are using an old-school construction method of steel beams with concrete deck. Most of these huge river-crossing bridges today use precast, prestressed concrete sections in order to save time and money. Is this a steel-mill area that would have lobbied for this type of construction?
@@danlowe8684 as far as I know this is not old school, it's the same way the new Port Mann bridge was done; they use cable stays to extend the bridge sections out from the tower(s), and the approaching road deck opposite the cables is always built with steel beams spanning between concrete columns with precast concrete to form the deck. But I can tell you the Port Mann's two towers and 10 lanes were built in about 4.5 years, almost the same time they've been building this bridge with 1 tower and just 4 lanes!
They are planning the same stupid thing with the Massey Tunnel replacement. Planning six lanes (the others are dedicated bus and bicycle/pedestrian lanes), with no counterflow capability, so there will still be only three lanes for rush hour .. same as now. Go figure! No thought for future traffic increase.
so what are the numbers on this bridge? - it's being compared to the (now) $4 billion sewage plant in Vancouver....double the budget and behind schedule...taxpayers in BC are richer than they think -
They are a year behind schedule on this bridge, I seriously hope the contractor building this bridge getting some hefty penalties. Construction in this country is a joke.
Agreed. In the moment this bridge is ready to use, the traffic has again increased. Minimum would be 8 lanes! 4 in each direction. Weird why they spending so much money and not going bigger in the first place!
You read my mind! I live in New West and read the spec build: 2 lanes each way?! 🤦🏽♂️ with the potential of more in the future. Surrey side didn’t want more lanes apparently. Dumb dumb. 🤐
Nearly 5 minutes of footage and not one single thing was done to further the bridges' construction in that time. No wonder it's taking so long to build. Disgusting.
New westminister mayor and council members would not allow any larger. They are just one group of people over the last 45 years to ruin my great city of New Westminister BC Canada.
Absolutely awesome Jack, thanks so much.😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you for a lovely video fly over of the new Pattullo Bridge. Very much enjoyed it.
Fantastic footage and nice choice in classical overlay. I enjoyed watching it and anticipate the completion of the bridge. Thanks Jack.
Thank you! I am trying to get more action shots now.
Really love the image quality. Keep em coming
@@keeboxcamera4509 Thanks, I try to film on sunny days for the photography aspect of it, but it looks like the weather will be cloudy going into fall.
holy shit about time!! the old bridge was falling apart and had crazy narrow lanes.
Thanks for the vid! Read recently that the project is slightly behind schedule. Will have to find a rendering of the new layout for the approaches! 👍
Nice to see all three of the road bridges. The railway bridge that had an automobile lane up above the track, the current bridge, and the new bridge.
Nice vid. Good choice of music.
Loved the classical music . 💞
4 lanes bridge. Really thinking about today and the future. Salute to these smart politicians.
Which politicians?
From my understanding its difficult to get a 6 lane bridge to work with the NewWest side being exclusively 4 lanes at the most.
Cool, you caught the train bridge mid-swing!
That's some VIP porta potty at 0:40. Imagine shitting there with an open door 😂
@@Kr4vis 🤣🤣🤣
Pretty cool footage. Hopefully this is done soonish! The current bridge is a nightmare.
If you have the time, go walk over the old Patullo Bridge. You will never forget the experience. It is absolutely dangerous as it is.
@@JanetLClark Thanks for the suggestion! Stay tuned by being subscribed, for an upcoming drone contest giveaway!
I took a step on it recently... and WOW, does it rumble! Really freaky.
@@KOZMOGRAFX interesting!
Great video, I moved away as they started building the bridge I hope to see more video updates. Thanks
Great video! I drive by everyday to work on the New Westminster side
it needed more lanes. 2 lanes on each side for that "new bridge" for a potential for 3 lanes on each side is simply not enough. should've went with 4. you're going to run into the same issues as the old bridge with traffic.
Thanks for posting, would be great to hear the traffic/river noise too.
ahah great footage. loved the music choice. I will miss the old Pattullo! grew up in surrey. worked in new west for ages and would cross all the time. sketchy but it has so much character. The new bridge still being only a 4 lane is such a stupid choice
Taking the existing Patullo bridge was interesting. Used to frequent that area when I was attending Dougie Daycare. That curved bottlenecked approach on the New West side was sometimes adventurous. Seen some cars do complete circles if their tires weren't up to par.
@@RUmlas yeah, I had a childhood friend whose tires slipped right at that spot too. It cost him his life. Happened about 15 years ago.
The Northside has always been a mess. From the first time I saw the roads they have changed it at least five times to try to make it better. I'm just not sure what will happen to the outfeed roads on the North. None of which are designed for more, or even the current level, of traffic. :(
The curve at the end will be great in winter conditions no accidents at all 😂
wouldnt be a Vancouver bridge otherwise
Replacing a 4 lane bridge with a 4 lane bridge. This is how intelligent our government officials are
I've been saying this since it was announced.
It can be easily expanded to a 6 lane bridge when the roads on either side are capable of handling that traffic. Much of McBride and King George blvrds will need to be widened for that to have much benefit first.
At the rate they are going it’s going to be 2026 before this bridge opens.
was that not the original lime line?
@@robmyckatynit was originally supposed to be this year, but then it was pushed to 2025 with no set month listed on the construction website… seeing the state of it now I am also thinking 2026
Pretty cool footage👌👍
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In my mind, 6 lanes would not add "more" traffic entering New West... a 3rd outer lane northbound would exit onto East Columbia, so the inside 2 lanes would be status quo. A 3rd lane southbound would accommodate the traffic from the new ramp that will serve bridge-bound vehicles from East Columbia, eliminating the merging that will have to happen because we only get 4 lanes, which means that all of the bridge-bound traffic on Royal, McBride, and East Columbia will have to funnel into 2 lanes southbound. So... I'm really curious to see what traffic will be like when the new bridge finally opens.
It's 4 + 2 HOV so far as I have heard. 6 lanes is fine, considering Scott Road and KGB on the Surrey side, and Columbia both ways and McBride on the other. If they can make better approaches, it will smooth things out.
@@wyldhowl2821 I've heard all along that it will open with 4 lanes, at the insistence of New Westminster city hall. Personally, I think there should also be a tunnel built under New West to connect East Columbia to Stewardson... and a proper freeway connection solution for all of that clogged traffic at Braid St.
@@KOZMOGRAFX I head 4 lanes plus 2 HOV, but if that is at New West's insistence that is new information, and not the fault f the province then. I would have thought New West would want to have the extra traffic lane as it is Columbia, McBride, Royal Ave. that get clogged during rush hour, trying to squeeze what is (currently) 4 lanes of approaching traffic into just 2 lanes of bridge.
@@wyldhowl2821 New West (governance) is funny... historically, they refuse any notion of expanding roadways thru the city for fear of increased traffic, yet they seem to be quite content with all of the noise and spew with Royal Ave being clogged END TO END during rush hour. King George and McBride are not freeways... if it were up to me, I'd put a light at the north end of the Patullo so that both lanes of Royal and both lanes of McBride could alternate, which would eliminate all of that ridiculous merging that has to happen. It would be a heck of a lot more relaxing to be in either lane knowing that you will get on the bridge without having to change lanes.
@@KOZMOGRAFX Aye, it's a thought. Then there's Queensborough. Another nightmare.
There is no getting around the fact that New West is smack in the middle of Metro Vancouver, like a hub between everywhere and everywhere else.
The new Massey TUNNEL needs to be built ASAP (to hell with that bridge nonsense down there).
However, after these, they should already be planning for a new Queensborough bridge next (6 lanes at least much better approaches FFS).
After that Knight, after that Oak, after that Arthur Laing. Sounds like a lot, but that is over a long term, probably something like 20 years. The population in Metro Vancouver (or Lower mainland anyway) has been jumping up by something like 100000 every year. These bridge improvements are needed, and much more mass transit too.
Can't go wrong building what is needed. The worst sin is how elected officials fail to plan beyond their own little 4 or 5 years in power.
Yes, a newer safer bridge. But it should have been 6 lanes to avoid the traffic having to merge which slows down traffic in rush hour. No improvement over the current bridge for traffic flow.
Good progress
Awesome video!
I can't wait till it's done!
As a Senior and a cyclist who likes to ride to the Quay from Surrey, that 'ole sidewalk on Pattulla is suicidal! This crossing is a Godsend ... for sure!
@@Johnny_Guitar I too like the bike and scooter lane. I love scooters!
@@ModernProjectManager
....and it's going to be on both sides, and SAFE from the wacky drivers unlike the 'ole suicide lane! 🤪
@@Johnny_Guitar I actually lost a friend to the morning frost on the old Patullo Bridge.
@@ModernProjectManager
Dang! Sorry to hear that brother! It's really sad at how many accidents, fatalities and insurance claims were directly caused because of that old 1937 Patullo design, 87 years old! It really needed to be decommissioned and torn down way back in 1970 when we had our 'Muscle Cars' racing across it .... yikes, at least none of us lost it! lol
They figure out how to deal with cable de-icing or will all the Surrey bridges be closed at once in winter?
This is for all you negative naysayers who don't have a clue about this bridge! Surrey, insisted to have 6 lanes .... BUT .... _'Liberal'_ New Westminster said; _"No"_ ....so. the planning and designing came to a compromise which was _'magically'_ negotiated and approved! This bridge is special because what it has is this! It will be a 4-lane bridge ... FOR NOW ... the bridge also includes a safe pedestrian/cyclist pathway where this makes it special! The width of this great bridge is WIDER than what the eye can see!
What this means is that *WHEN* it comes to overwhelming vehicular traffic, and it will happen, then the so-call _'Rabbit-is-pulled-out-of-the-hat'_ magic trick happens! As mentioned, the widening is in the engineering of the design that when time comes, the pedestrian/cyclist pathway will be incorporated on both sides making for the 6-car lanes .... got that?
So, about the pathway, well that's also in the special design feature which will simply be outwardly extended as _'wings'_ so-to-speak, being built on to the sides add-ons making for a FULL 6-lane modern bridge and a FULL pedestrian/cyclist pathway (on both sides!)
So, for the naysayers with negative comments .... DROP IT ..... everything is in place which was DECIDED LONG BEFORE the drafted drawings even had their pencils sharpened.
Thank you good Sir! The politics of Megaprojects are the fun part!
@@ModernProjectManager
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@@Johnny_Guitar your “illuminated” insight into power is respected.
The same was done for the Alex Fraser bridge... it opened with 4 lanes!
What a great job, thanks for sharing!
They can’t stop Jack now……..he’s got to fly!!
This TH-cam video wouldn't be possible without the existence of drone technology.
A nice fly over. bless them NDP'rs in Surrey getting a bridge replacement and those non NDP'ers in Delta being ignored!
Idiot
Replace a 4 lane bridge with a 4 lane bridge smart??
The old one is very narrow. This one would be upto modern lane code
We don't need more than four lanes.
As long as they are wider lanes would make a huge difference, so the big trucks crossing the bridge don't take up 2 lanes as they do now.
Hmmm.....are there 6 lane roads leading up to and off the bridge at both ends....no. So that explains the design. If you've ever been to a concert and noticed 400 people trying to go through a single turn-style....that is what would happen coming off a 6 lane bridge to a 4 lane roadway.
Should keep both bridges until the old one fails.
Is it really only 4 lanes ? Wow the government is that stupid
It's 6 lanes but people are complaining so they are calling it 4 until the complaining stops then they'll paint the other 2 lines.
Do you know what induced demand is?
@@TheRecurrence No, it requires a physical reconfiguration to become six lanes.
@@TheRecurrence the "four lane only" gaslighting will continue until moral improves 🤣
Any project on infrastructure is welcoming. Soon we will have a new bridge, that's great. Ottawa should focus more on improving our country, look at nearby Hwy 17 which is major commercial transport corridor, that is crumbling and insufficient to handle today's traffic. What leaders are elected for, is to use people hard earned money wisely to make Canada a better country, this should always come first. Rather than diverting time and money on other agenda
Highway 17 was a project of the previous provincial government. Not a great design IMHO, even if something like that concept was needed.
The Pattullo bridge project is slow but its getting there at least. COVID delayed it, but I bet you the 2021 floods delayed it more, when suddenly every railway and highway had bridges destroyed between the Lower Mainland and interior of BC. That was a true emergency, so how much do you think had to be suddenly diverted to rebuild highways 99, 1, 5, 3, and 8 ? Probably lost a year of labour & money just from that, plus the supply/inflation crisis globally.
Thankyou.
A 10 project for China.
Replacing a 4 lane bridge with a 4 lane bridge.
It's almost whimsical, isn't it?
It’s because New Westminster didn’t want it to be more than 4 lanes. They worry they won’t be able to handle everyone going through that bridge if they make it wider since most of their roads are 2 lanes.
Actually it is currently a 2 lane bridge since only 2 can go in any direction.
@@jazzizz1509 The bridge leads onto McBride Blvd, which is 4 lanes. New Westminster uses that to rationalize the size of the bridge. In reality the offramps lead onto McBride and Royal Ave. There's no reason other than cost to not have two lanes onto McBride and two onto Royal.
I’ve been watching the construction of the Gordie Howe bridge out east(similar drone channel), and it is built with nice white painted steel girders etc. Why would they not prepaint/epoxy this one’s components ? Or is it simply painted a rusty metal colour ? Nice flights once again.👍👍
@@blueman5924 I would assume the steel would be painted at some point. Does seem funky, maybe it will be one hell of a paint job?
It is likely a Corten steel, which requires no painting - which makes sense for a water crossing. Otherwise, it would have to be painted every 20 years, which is a major undertaking. Corten is designed to produce a 'protective' layer of oxidation, and not impact the structural integrity of the steel, and does not require painting.
Yup, 30 years late, 1.3 billion and it’s…….. wait for it….. four lanes wide. With bike lanes on either side and an option to expand to 6 vehicle lanes. We need 8 lanes right now. Leave it to the inept loser government to do everything to late and impractical. Oh and that 1.3 billion is going to triple.
@@thebobloblawshow8832 I think it will turn out fine either way, the old Pattullo Bridge is dangerous, so the safety upgrade is a good modern point.
Better late than never … Massy Tunnel is another on on the waiting list for over 40 years and still on the wait list …
We need 8 lane roads in New Westminster and Surrey then. City after city has played the game of widening roads to fix their traffic problems and it never works. You want to cut down on traffic? Upgrade public transit.
8 lanes to go to where? to New westminster and surrey? that wont solve any problem, that bridge is going to Cities with traffic light on less of a mile after you crossed, not to high ways.
Can someone explain please why this bridge has significantly higher towers than other bridges of comparable length and width?
@@rafichapanian3544 Navigation over Fraser River, improved standards, and structural requirements.
The bridge is holding with the huge guidewires which standings in the middle of the Fraser River. Check out at 3:48 and you will notice there are holes along the upper section and each hole holds one guidewire.
Fewer piers in the water to help distribute the load.
Cable stayed bridges are preferred over the kind the old Patullo is, more stable vs. earthquakes and so on.
there's still time to turn it into the world's biggest teeter-totter instead.
a 4 lane replacing a 4 lane bridge....yep.....hey wheres that tunnel replacement, oh right still doing a enviro study, i guess the bridge one wasn't good enough.
thats progress under fed. liberals and NDP
Better a tunnel than the bridge that Christy Clark had wanted.
Wow 😮 💖💖💖
It doesnt look wide enough.
Will just have the same traffice issues.
@@ModernProjectManager Short sighted New West council only wanted 4 lanes. Surrey wanted 6.
@@roberthowell7095 ...which means there that the new bridge will have to be torn down and replaced in 30 years with a 6-lane one, which *_*will*_* make *_this_* new bridge a *_HUGE_* waste of taxpayers' money!!! 🙄😑😠😠😠😤😤😤😮💨😮💨😮💨👎👎👎🙄😑
@@StevenVillman Apparently they can add the extra lanes on the bike and pedestrian lanes and move those to the outside of the bridge. The point being they planned the bridge for 6 lanes. Why not do it now, now matter what New West wanted. Read all the comments from your average citizen and we can see the folly in this 4 lane bridge.
Brooklyn bridge built in 1867 and going strong ; Pattullo bridge built in 1937, lets replace a 4 lane bridge with a NEW 4 lane bridge in 2024 for the GVRD, while population has more than tripled since 1937 we are STILL building a 4 lane bridge. yes studies say that's the way to go ????? 🤔🤔 DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE this 😂😂😂😂 ; think we would learn from past cable bridges and our winters ; i will have a good laugh when lanes close due to weather conditions ; we now have a 2 lane bridge ; 1 lane each way 😂😂 tax dollars wasted !! yes yours ... and mine
@@GeorgeLayneTV we will see what it brings. Stay tuned!
omg is the new one really only 4 lanes? wtf
@@haarlembrando Expandable to 6 when the roads on either side allow for it to be utilized.
Any plans for that rail bridge, tatty old thing.
@@grahamkearnon6682 No plans that I know of. But there is a bridge operator managing the tilt between ships and train passage.
I work on the tower section
@@luckluc8627 cool! I’ll becoming to film you work like a rock star! Next I’m going to have to time a beam flying into place.
@@luckluc8627 Sir, is there any way you could help me coordinate the time beams fly and cables installed?
how much u get paid per hour
Thank You're.
@@Anticipat0r
More like, how much are you getting paid HERE to post ???
I guess the pre fab concrete road pieces fit together, covering and laying on top of steel road support. ?
@@JohnInDaHouse2015 Yes. I would assume concrete would fill the roadway, once the floor slabs are in.
@@ModernProjectManager YEAH but not filling in between super structure.? i see they have to have a barrier btween raw iron and concrete. LIKE a foundation seal plate plastic used in houses btwn foundation concrete and wood plate. !!! What is the inbetween connection is what i am interested in.
@@JohnInDaHouse2015 you are correct, I guess the shiny thing on the road in the south is a plastic barrier.
Its a damn shame that Acciona is the contractor on this.....but at least its getting built. Nice video. Thanks for sharing
Is this still on budget or has it also gone to hell too 😤
Yup, we North Shore folks have a $3 billion bone to pick with them.
Now i dont have to wonder when the second tower is going up when observing from n surrey
What about the old bridge?
@@sandyfung2535 the old bridge will be demolished, once the new bridge is complete.
Going to be tight going around new Westminster the building in the way
@@angelodaconceicao6815 good point, we will see how it turns out! Please subscribe to stay tuned!
Nice video. But I think this new bridge design is a definitely a waste of time and effort and energy and of course money more importantly, it should have been 4 lanes or 5 or 6 lanes on either side of this new bridge!!!!!!
Is the Pattulo being taken down?
@@DUGDOORyup, just like the old port Mann bridge when the new one was completed 👍
Why build a bridge that has only wider lanes, not more lanes?
@@MCowie oh god! I know! **shaking head**
Building more lanes doesn't solve gridlock. We all know that.
"The Mayors’ Council approved a four-lane bridge designed not to preclude a potential future expansion to six lanes.
The Province will monitor the new bridge’s traffic performance and will consult with the municipalities and the Mayors’ Council to develop an appropriate response to the bridge’s traffic performance.
Expansion to six lanes would be put into place only after consultation among the Province, Indigenous groups, the cities of New Westminster and Surrey and the Mayors’ Council.
If the bridge were to be expanded, the walking and cycling lanes would become vehicle lanes, and new walking and cycling paths would be added to the outside of the bridge, cantilevered from the existing structure."
Tax payers: why won't you add more lanes?
Also tax payers after adding more lanes: Why can't you allocate those funds elsewhere? Traffic hasn't improved with the added lanes.
@@RUmlas Thanks!
Pattulo Bridge 4 lane bridge, defunct!
Wait, do you know what we can do with a 4 lane bridge TODAY?
wow what drone and camera do you use?
@@hobe7262 DJI Mini 4 Pro
And to not leave the old bridge up for non vehicle traffic
Why can’t both bridges operate concurrently?
@@1.thomasalmeida Maybe they are building as if a cruise ship will go down the Fraser River! Please Stay Tuned for the Demolition!
That old bridge is ready to fall apart
@@nillermatic18 the old bridge also has a history of accidents.
Great video ! But damn why is it taking so long to build ??
@@chrislippingwell3587 it’s actually speeding up! looking back at my early footage, there is lots of progress! I am publishing new video soon that is a recap of this week. Thank you for the support!
Lobbyist and politics and corruption. Expected price also went up to 10x the initial plan.
At least make the lanes alternating like Lion's gate in Vancouver so it will be 3 - 1 depending on traffic
@@EA_47_ That’s a good idea.
The government should save the old bridge for cars and bikes only and emergency vehicles as well.
Bikes and emergency vehicles would be great. But there are costs to maintain it. It is being replaced not because it is inadequate for traffic, but because it is dangerously narrow and at the end of it's lifespan. Two bridges leading into the same area would just move the congestion from the bridge to wherever the dual-bridge traffic merges.
Why does most of the steal look old?
@@troygach9228 when the iron within the steels undergoes oxidation, it rusts. It’s beautiful. The rust does not penetrate deeply, so it’s okay and beautiful.
Yes it does look pretty sweet and yes you are right, it does rust faster in some areas than other's 👍
Cool video and thank you so much for taking the time to share with us all
It’s weathering steel which is designed to form a protective coat of rust.
@@ModernProjectManager Have you ever watched
"Hydraulic Press Channel"
Old steel way stronger than new steel!!
Better late than never 😂
LOL yeah really. Maybe they can do something about the tunnel before it collapses when I am in it.
A train bridge, then a sky train bridge, then a new car bridge to replace an old car bridge😅
This is such a joke and waste of money, replacing a 4 lane bridge with a 4 lane bridge.
@@saldougie69 Thanks for being interested. Please join the channel :)
are they demo'ing the old bridge? wtf??
@@ghostrider-be9ekthe old one is falling apart, dangerously narrow, and desperately needs to be replaced.
This one can be turned into a 6 lane once the demand is there. The road systems on either side, in New Westminster and Surrey, will need to be widened to make use of the at many lanes. What's the point of adding another in each direction if cars are just going to be bottlenecked not too far up the road and back it up anyways?
The joke to me is that we built an entirely separate bridge for skytrain when we could have replaced the 4 lane road and included skytrain on one bridge at the same time. Probably saving hundreds of millions in the process.
Even seeing it in real life I still don't believe their actually building it.
You can blame new west for the size of the new bridge. New west is a horrendous bottle neck that refuses to adapt and change with our growing population because they have in in their heads that they are somehow an important historical landmark. Their disdain for traffic dispite having horrible transit is what brought about this decision. However, I take the pattulo sometimes in the morning. With the amount of commercial vehicles that need to take up two lanes when they cross, i would hardly call the current bridge a 4 lane bridge. Ill happily accept the upgrade if it means we wont be stuck behind a dumptruck taking booth lanes crossing at 20km/h.
What's with the music?
@@SkyLehman just try’in to make it enjoyable!
What a joke the new bridge doesn't address the capacity shortfall of the old bridge it will still be under the needed capacity.
@@Nicklan1961 the choice was to not over capacity the city. Maybe I’ll try to vlog that aspect some point.
And how much capacity would that be? Ten lanes?
@@AlCatSplat the bridge has the same capacity as the old one what a joke
@@AlCatSplat atleat 8 lanes but 10 would be best considering it connects the two fastest growing cities in BC.
30 years late
BC
I live on Hastings St New Westminster
@@Deafjustin Hello Neighbor! Stay tuned for the drone giveaway contest!
Need another bridge between port Mann and Pattulo OR this needed to be 6 lanes.
@@somap8380 I think the bike lanes could be switched into car lanes if needed in the future.
Can anyone shed light on which politician in charge of the 4 lane design criteria? We need accountability record here. I know Horgen cancelled the bridges over massey tunnel.
@@TheIn2world Johnstone said the current four-lane design was selected after extensive community consultation and in an agreement between the cities of Surrey and New Westminster along with TransLink.Feb 15, 2023
@@ModernProjectManagermost of time, consultations are like creative accounting.
WHAT is taking so long to build this bridge.
It looks like nothing has changed in the last 9 months.
I think I counted about 8 guys actually on the bridge..
And the same amount of lanes as the old bridge.....?
Painful.
How many bureaucrats' did it take to approve THAT brilliant design?
@@derekcourt425 just about to upload a video showing that some progress has happened. The start of 4th cable set
Just one more lane bro!
They are using an old-school construction method of steel beams with concrete deck. Most of these huge river-crossing bridges today use precast, prestressed concrete sections in order to save time and money. Is this a steel-mill area that would have lobbied for this type of construction?
@@danlowe8684 as far as I know this is not old school, it's the same way the new Port Mann bridge was done; they use cable stays to extend the bridge sections out from the tower(s), and the approaching road deck opposite the cables is always built with steel beams spanning between concrete columns with precast concrete to form the deck. But I can tell you the Port Mann's two towers and 10 lanes were built in about 4.5 years, almost the same time they've been building this bridge with 1 tower and just 4 lanes!
Why only 4 lanes not 6?
@@SUPERFLUID88 it was a decision that everyone complains about. I guess that’s why it’s simply a replacement of the existing bridge.
@@ModernProjectManager with the population growth we’ve been experiencing that bridge should be a 6 lane bridge it’s a waste of money
They are planning the same stupid thing with the Massey Tunnel replacement. Planning six lanes (the others are dedicated bus and bicycle/pedestrian lanes), with no counterflow capability, so there will still be only three lanes for rush hour .. same as now. Go figure! No thought for future traffic increase.
Where would the extra traffic go? You’ve got cities on each side that can’t change their road networks.
Because the other side if the river (New Westminster) doesn’t have the capacity. Duh!
so what are the numbers on this bridge? - it's being compared to the (now) $4 billion sewage plant in Vancouver....double the budget and behind schedule...taxpayers in BC are richer than they think -
@@dondercole7763 1.4 Billion for the replacement bridge.
WHAT!! THAT MONEY COULD HAVE WENT TO UKRAINE 😅
Shh! Don't say it...
But It didn't and your English is poor
Pretty dumb to land the bridge in the same spot on the new west side. Should of went directly up McBride Blvd.
They are a year behind schedule on this bridge, I seriously hope the contractor building this bridge getting some hefty penalties. Construction in this country is a joke.
Yup compared to how fast they used to build things.
Should you be flying your drone over an active construction site?
@@wp272 I stay my distance away.
@ModernProjectManager nah at 3:54 you fly directly overhead of an active work crew
@@wp272 Report it then, if not then just stop complaining.
You are whats wrong with the world. Crying like a baby over everything. You have absolutely no joy in your miserable life
That bridge is already too small.
@@flyingleaf8929 the 100 year old documentary talk about the uproar that people wanted a 6 lane bridge. Didn’t learn anything in 100 years, lol
TOO SMALL!
Agreed. In the moment this bridge is ready to use, the traffic has again increased. Minimum would be 8 lanes! 4 in each direction. Weird why they spending so much money and not going bigger in the first place!
nah, we need a bridge for bike, ebike, modpadbridge, and scooter.
They are still building that thing? I thought they just gave up like 2 years ago
Only in BC - the land of NIBYism would you build a bridge with the same # of lanes it’s replacing. Huge waste of taxpayer $ 🤬
You read my mind!
I live in New West and read the spec build: 2 lanes each way?! 🤦🏽♂️ with the potential of more in the future. Surrey side didn’t want more lanes apparently.
Dumb dumb. 🤐
Brand new and already 50 years behind what it should be.
just one more lane bro!
@@jonaspareja Name one city that ended traffic by building more lanes.
@@garnet4846 Please look up "induced demand".
Nearly 5 minutes of footage and not one single thing was done to further the bridges' construction in that time. No wonder it's taking so long to build. Disgusting.
@@laid07 subscribe for more ;)
Just imagine the tolls on this project you all must love it
The comsertive govenment just might do that.
Half the bridge lanes will be reserved for bicycles if the greens get their way
@@elypevets5633 it is quite the distance to travel, even for scooter people.
Give us a break on the music, like it's already in the death throws , and all the rust. Creepy stuff.
Hope that steel is not from China
@@lyndonfish6229 I have not checked yet, but like 90% of the products around me, it probably is. Contractors still say it’s cheaper.
yes all our cars and scrap steel is sent to Japan not China to make new cars.
The music suck but ok footage 😅😅😅
@@marcgrondin5836 Thank you for the feedback!
@@ModernProjectManagergreat music
@@ModernProjectManagerI enjoyed it
nah mate, the music was EPIC!
New westminister mayor and council members would not allow any larger. They are just one group of people over the last 45 years to ruin my great city of New Westminister BC Canada.
Loose the music.
@@zululeppard interesting how some people love it, some people hate it? I will try a few formats. Thank you!
@@ModernProjectManager I think it's great. I doubt anyone just wants to hear the drone motors, and if people want silence they can just mute.
Not a good choice of music, doesn't fit the slow advance of drone
Nice video when muted.
great music! dafuk you talking bout!?
that music suck for that kind of video !
@@65choco I’m upgrading music style, flying style. More to come, please subscribe!
@@ModernProjectManager the music choice was great, loved it