They celebrate now, but when the union dues eat into your paycheck with little benefit in return and you see union officials with expensive cars and vacation homes, they'll realize the double-edged sword of unionizing.
I'll give you a couple. They are fear and habit. People need meat and potatoes on the table. With inflation as it stands today there has to be millions of people one or two paychecks away from homelessness. Employers know this and use it to their advantage. If you will notice you rarely hear a lot of bad press about worker cooperatives. With them unionization is not a problem. Why go out on strike against a company of which you are part owner? Whole Foods, Before Amazon purchased it, was a worker co-op. The largest worker cooperative in the world is in Mandragon, Spain. Last I read it was the seventh largest corporation in Spain. For some strange reason Americans tend to accept things as they are. It is what it is.
Nothing is ever wrong with having a voice and representation at a place that we spent a majority of our days, where we work hard to build these global brands only to be paid pennies yet invest millions to tell us No. Yes, unions require work to ensure they are an actual voice but that’s the work of any democratic practice. Proud of all those who are fighting for and who have joined a Union!
@@ocampbell1954 every work environment has lazy people. The presence of unions just require management to go through more paperwork to get rid of them.
Never been in a Union for the past 20+ years as an IT professional. More than 10+ years in six figures salary and retiring before 56 with 3 homes. I don't need no union.
@@JM-gg8ko my home and my rental properties are paid off as well. I'm also a six-figure earner. None of that matters. The statement I made about benefits and structure was based on the average worker. Every worker doesn't need a union. Many companies give their employees the compensation and benefits at market rate for their professions in order to keep unions out. Unions only exist because many companies are greedy.
@@JM-gg8ko you have good money, because IT is need many workers today. It's no work for enough professionas. I'm live in Russia and i have many money like you, i'm IT too.
@@paisan8766 Sure they do. It's literally their job. Look, social security is a joke. You will never have a decent lifestyle living on just social security. My brother in law lives on social security. $1,450 a month. That will just about make a house payment- if it's a very small house. So what is he supposed to do for food and utilities? The ONLY way you will survive is to work even after you collect social security OR you save money for retirement. If you save money then you end up investing in the stock market. That makes YOU a stockholder. A part owner in some "evil corporation." The corporations have ONE major responsibility. It make as much money as possible for their stockholders. As a stockholder the person who gets that money is YOU. The ONLY WAY to win is to invest in the market. Start investing 5% of your income right now. Every year increase that investment by 1 or 2 % a year up to a MINIMUM of 10% Better if you can do 20%. I started at 6%. Now I'm up to 15% Then one day you'll get a statement from your 401k that says you have $100,000 in the bank. (Trust me, it will feel really weird.) Keep saving and it will suddenly hit 1 million. After that life takes on a whole different meaning. It only takes saving a little bit out of every paycheck. It's all about saving SOMETING for a very long time. It honestly works.
Employees unionize because the company failed to resolve its own grievances. Simple as that. If you don't want a union and the hassles it can bring, treat your employees proper. Having worked for a several union jobs before I can say that some work issues remain, but the paycheck and medical is why I stayed with them for years.
Not a source but experience. We had a union drive in our plant. Management was smart enough to address the issues before the vote. They could do that because the union was so slow at getting the required cards to call the vote.@@ligondesenuts769
Why? Because the business community and their army of lobbyists have spent the last 40 years beating the working class to a pulp for the benefit of investors and executives. Unions bring balance between labor and management.
Many people get bogged down in the minutiae of union vs non union but miss the big picture; are we ok with a few people at the top making 7-8 figures per year while the average employee barely makes enough to scrape by? Somehow employees are the villains for wanting to have more than a studio apartment and subpar medical coverage.
Nah bro. The people who are anti-union are those who benefit from crushing unions. Nobody with half a brain cell would say no to improving your life standards
@@ballen8905 If that was the case there would be no GM's store managers or managers at all because it's transitioning. I mean what you said makes no sense. The stock market would collapse if there was wasn't working bees filling these jobs. And you're starting to see no one wants these jobs now because people like you. They feel like the job is menial and they won't go anywhere in life so now they aren't even filling these jobs. And no business wants a high turnover rate they want reliable people that will stick with the company and eventually get into managing positions. Why do you think companies are offering tuition reimbursement or flat out paying for college if you stay with them through our school? So yea you are very wrong.
@@ballen8905 Arguably, computer repair technicians at companies like Apple are skilled labors that deserve more appropriate pay. Besides, if you don't pay well and don't offer employee protection enough for a transition job, what motivates people to transition from said jobs to ""forever jobs"", whatever that term even means in 2022?
The apple thing makes perfect sense. Apple advertises the "genius bar" to their customers, implying that geniuses work at apple stores. Who pays a "genius" $20 an hour? Typical corporation, over promising to their customer and under supporting their staff who have to meet those promises made on their behalf. An apple employee is a "genius" in terms of marketing to the customer but just a retail hourly help in terms of negotiating their wages.
@Collen Flarity houses and cars were also multiple times cheaper considering inflation. Idk why someone can seriously not understand the concept of inflation after the last few years.
@Collen Flarity ah that's not really a factor considering the majority of America lives in 1000 square feet houses just like we did in the fifties. The only real major difference is that suburban houses newly constructed post 1980s are generally bigger. But the majority of individuals in America don't live in those kinds of homes. Even a house with the same dimensions as one built from the fifties would be significantly more expensive with inflation considered. Your talking about a multiple time increase. Housing is 30 times more expensive than the fifties yet the federal minimum wage in the fifties to current only increased by about 10 times. Also healthcare costs and commodity prices have outpaced wages. It's just kind of a fact that people were proportionally paid more even the lowest jobs in the 50s
They are paid well for the skills that the job requires. $20 is good pay for that job. I don't understand why they want a union. It seems more from greed than need.
My Company conveniently parted ways with anyone considering unionizing. Management roles were placed in a manager organization. Entry level staff was very replaceable at the end of the day.
Of course! The rich are PETRIFIED that the poor will unite against them. 💪😎🤟 Gotta keep the peons and plebs down. Else, the yachts, vacations, exploitation, and corruption will all go bye-bye.
Which is precisely why unions are so important - to bring balance and fairness to the labour market. Yeah, individual workers might be easily replaceable, but try operating with no entry level workers. Union representation equalizes what is otherwise an unconscionably unjust imbalance of power.
They were able to find people? All I see around here is "help wanted" signs. Even advertisements and announcements over store shop PAs are looking for people
I feel the most important aspect of a union is being protected. You have people who’ll go to battle for you. I’ve been fired from a job where my managers had ego’s and were used to pushing employees around.
Most manufacturing jobs have left America because of Unions and those jobs will never go back and in the meantime, Unions have done nothing to stop 85,000 H1B visas from China and India to come in and take the high paying jobs that should be going to Americans.
@@mattkennedy6115 nah the union and demanding more more and more when the economy time hit hard. that why some us manufacture just left. and some just let japanese car come to US. dont believe me. just look at detroit. overpowerd union, lemon car. etc etc.
@@cyranova9627 Chevy's board/CEO sabotaged the product ect also not the only company to do so chevy helped start Toyota and helped import finished car's to the 🇺🇸 without helping it probably would've failed and or just a support supplier for rubber parts aka thing's detroit can't cheaply make as it's not in the tropics
As a german I can tell you that unions are a good thing, even in terms of productivity. The aspect that is bad for economic growth and entreprenurial freedom is state intervention.
Banning child labour and slavery is also bad for entrepreneurial freedom. Business owners run their employee's lives, from their paycheck to what hours they can and can't be forced to work to earn a living
These companies acting like their workers being in a union is the end of the world. Yet this is the norm in many other countries in the world, where the worker benefits are superior to those commonly found in the USA.
I find it odd that the same people that will call "entry level" workers greedy for fighting for $15 an hour (basically the equivalent of the federal mimimun wage in the late 1960s) will never call $20,000,000 a year executives greedy. Very strange...................
A CEO runs a company. A cashier hits a few buttons. I'm not opposed to a $15 minium wage employees getting more money for work is what's great about capitalism.
@@mooseoperator27 so what would happen to the company if all those cashiers that just "push buttons" were not there? Would the CEO be pushing all those buttons? What a foolish argument
@@mooseoperator27 Keep bootlicking, CEOs don’t work any harder than you and I. Let alone 400x the average salary harder. The more money I’ve made, the less strenuous the work I’ve actually done.
@LegM... you're exactly correct. It's a huge fallacy to pretend that any human being works even 200x harder than anyone else. Especially when it all comes down to algorithms, computer code, marketing, etc.
Companies usually become abusive when there is no checks and balances. This isn't about workers doing something wrong when they create a union, it's about management creating an atmosphere that something is wrong with the company that promotes the formation of a union.
Simple but powerful truth: As soon as a company is publicly traded unionization will be vehemently opposed by management. In management's eyes, any profit that unions require to provide better conditions for employees would be better directed to earnings or stock buybacks or anything else to the benefit of the shareholder at the expense of the employee. Simple but powerful truth.
As a Teamster, I can say that being Union is life changing, I make $27 an hour, the company also puts $7.83 an hour into my Unions pension fund for my retirement, the company also has to put $11.73 an hour into my health plan through my union. My insurance has $0 deductible and I can pretty much go to any doctor or hospital I want. Unionize! You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor. #Teamsters #Local222 💪
Unions must exist...otherwise...we're Mexico...and we're "close now". No American company gives "a rats ass" about its people.. and this is world-wide...not just in America or China. If you don't run your own affairs...your affairs are "run for you. Period.
Well, here in Mexico we have govt. Subsidized healthcare for workers, public universities and some really strong unions. In that front we are ahead the US, only being hampered by corruption and low budgets.
They have RECORD PROFITS every single year... Yet, their fundamental level workers, that produce the MOST value in the company, doesn't get pay raise... HOW?
Investors decide whether or not its enough profit. If they don't produce adequate growth every single quarter then they are forced by the market to cut payroll. Its a perpetual cycle of loss for workers unionized or not.
These greedy cry babies fighting for the right to bully their company into paying them far beyond their skills, driving up inflation do NOT deserve praise. I make a lot less than my age group, but I made decisions in my life without a gun to my head. IE quitting school at 16, I always planned to go back but didnt, I also planned to take some college courses, you don't need a grade 12 diploma where I come from, but I never did. Personal responsibility seems to be a foreign concept to many people these days.
You know that if employees don’t feel valued, they can always look for another job? Unions just create a huge red-tape and corruption in terms of hiring/firing employees.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 and if you still don’t find your dream job, you are always welcome to set up your own business, unless you live in North Korea, Cuba or the like.
@@sak_5 how much does it cost to setup a lemonade stand legally 🤔. I would really want to see what would happen if workers would just stop working from all industries, I would really want to see if these fearless leaders will stepup to the plate and still provide products and services.
It seems you don’t own a company. Imagine having one in a free market, yet having to go through a huge red-tape when trying to fire someone you consider is not contributing to your company.
@@BarryPiper Walmart used to have times when they “needed to clear the house” to save payroll, not sure if they still do this since it was years ago. But they would have management walk out anyone with D-days or tardy records, or whatever reason they can be used to justified. A couple months later the employee can apply for the job again and if they get hired, they’ll start all over again at based pay.
More people don't do it because often companies have grey area policies that allow them to easily fire people who attempt to unionize. In the US there aren't nearly as many protections for workers as there are in the rest of the world. In Europe for example a company can literally be put under investigation if they fire workers for trying to unionize where as in the US companies are effectively allowed to do it with hardly anyone in our judicial system batting an eye.
I worked in the CWA (mentioned in the video) for several years. I know unions were hugely transformative in the 1800s-1900s but some of my CWA coworkers were some of the laziest bunch of people I ever worked with. When I suggested that some of my peers not sleep at their desks or not cut out 15 minutes early because they might get reprimanded for it, their response was usually "what are they gonna do, we're in a union!" Not everyone was like this, of course, but a good 30-40% of the floor I worked on seemed to be like that. I often felt like I was doing most of the heavy listing. I know that, without unions, it would be just as bad if not worse in the other direction - as it seems to be now in many mega-companies. I just wish there were a happy middle ground.
you sound like a teachers pet obnoxious person . who tells people to not nap at their desk when they are tired ? you don’t know what people are going through .
@@pudanielson1 in a union shop it is really hard to fire workers for merely perceived issues like laziness. It takes many instances of policy violations and meetings with the shop steward for "coaching" to give the employee a chance to turn themselves around. Most management teams won't waste the time and effort, instead they'll shift work over to reliable workers. "Let the babies have their bottles; we know who the productive workers are".
They suddenly closed the Starbucks near my work citing safety reasons read in the news they had Unionize a month earlier. This company is evil and I won’t give them my money any more
As a designer, Macintosh or now Apple always have a place in my heart. Over pass 23 years I grow from love to right down hate the company, it conduct and products. The quality of product and operating system has so much rubbish on them. And now they don’t even treat their employee properly. I rather do my design on pen and paper with water color than buy new iMac from company that so greedy. I still use iPhone I pray there better brand in the future
The corporate class has many methods to stop unionization. Thoughtful planning and perseverance will always win against them so please don't give up. It can change everything on this planet.
Quite funny coming from a company valued at almost 3 trillion and with more than 600 billion in liquid cash(apple) but they make gross amounts of money and don't pay much taxes with the idea of paying work which they don't. Also, the most prosperous time in the united states also had the highest percentages of unions. I hope they continue the fight
This is straight up wrong. Apple Paid 18bn in corporate taxes in 2021. apple has 48 Bn of cash and cash equivalents as as of 6/30. no idea where you get those numbers from.
Could a union for nurses put patients at risk? What if they go on strike and people are dying in hospitals? I think that some professions, like those in charge of people's health and life, should not have a union.
The one guy at the beginning is unknowingly 100% correct. The people who are working at these stores that are unionizing are over educated (and arguably unneedingly educated). Go to any fast food restaurant you're going to find more cash registers mean by robots than you are people. Starbucks and Apple is not actually a progressive company's, they are just trying to pander towards a demographic that they believe are willing to overpay for their products. The only reason these companies have not already in place more of their employees with robots is because their corporate boards have decided the high cost for a human workforce our negligible when you account for the clientele it allows them to pander to. These employees are simply adding to the numerous reasons to get rid of them. Also a lot of the Starbucks locations that have closed down and have cited numerous health problems such as drug use in the bathroom. A problem that only occurred because the corporate board decided to pander towards a progressive clientele a few years ago. I personally no longer go to Starbucks due to their overpriced coffee and the decrease in cleanliness of their stores. Something tells me that the people who want to unionize are not going to be the people who believe their stores will look better if they kick out the homeless people.
People don’t want robots. They don’t even want to talk on the phone when it comes to tech. Most want hands on help with purchases and trouble shooting. Apple couldn’t replace the people in store with “robots” even if they wanted to.
You have a good point, but you’re underestimating the work that these employees do if you think they’re replaceable by robots. You are correct on the front that a significant portion of these positions are replaceable: taking orders at the drive-thru, accepting payment at the cash register, selling a customer an iPad, etc. However, things like preparing a blended drink, troubleshooting a 2 hour technical problem, handling a warranty claim and convincing a customer to make a purchase cannot fully be replaced by robots. But yes, I do see major restructuring away from brick & mortar within these companies if unions gain more appeal. Personally, I think this should be a signal for Starbucks to make big company changes and possibly even rebrand, because their prominence in the coffee space is fading (at least I feel like it is as a mid-twenties coffee drinker lol, and I even used to work there in my late teens). I don’t see younger generations finding as much excitement in the brand as mine did. It’s evolved to have a very corporate feel, plus the product is just bad. Apple will be fine though. This may sound crazy, but I can picture Apple entering the ‘place to gather / coffee’ market that Starbucks is in. Their last retail head was pushing for something similar with ‘Today at Apple.’
@@D_Webb not necessarily robots what you do is you call it self-service and it's a luxury. So you know how you go to the supermarket and you grab a cart so that you can go and pick items off the shelves. So until Piggly wiggly opened that used to be something the store employees would do for you. Not only did his move reduce the number of employees required but they also sold it as a service as where you could personally choose which vegetables and fruits you buy. Starbucks could easily do this they only need about one or two people to make the drinks. Even then they figured out how to replace those humans with vending machines in both Italy and Japan.
@@D_Webb Yes, they do. Whilst not autonomous, self checkout has become the norm. Having an app or program to input your own order is quickly becoming a standard, and a series of machines can do pretty much anything and everything in a Starbucks without the necessity of human intervention. Would you even necessarily be aware that machines did the work; synthetic software voices were quite realistic with some moderate tweaks more than 15 years ago? If you were to hear a relatively generic voice calling out your name whilst your order is sitting on the counter, it's doubtful that you would ever be able to tell how much an actual human was involved in the entire process. Automation has been happening incrementally since the joints originally opened. You are simply unaware of most processes. Deep fat fried food can nearly go from start to finish these days. Robots are rarely in humanoid form. There are even full robot bands programmed to play exactly what is heard on an album. Live music will one day be maybe a singer with robots performing with real instruments on-site.
There are some like seniority is valued more than hard work but wages and benefits are far better in a union shop. I worked 20 years non union. It basically sucked. High insurance deductibles, Crappy 401K, and less vacation time. No thanks.
I worked in a Union a few years ago. I was hoping to go from Lot Associate to Cashier and busted my ass everyday to show that I was the best person for the job. When a position opened up I expressed my interest to the manager and he said no. He acknowledged that I worked hard and had a good head on my shoulders. However, he stated that tenure takes priority in any promotion opportunity and NOT ability. I then put in my two weeks.
And anyone supporting the megacorps' fight is a gullible tool. Record profits year over year, yet wages keep being slashed and hours get longer, and enployment stability scarcer. These corporstions are bo different than feudal nobility. They won't give you good conditions and wages out of kindness.
Of course. But employees have *WAY* less resources, lol! 😂🤣😂 That's why only the RICH can run for offices, political positions, etc. It's literally impossible (meaning: IMPOSSIBLE) for peons and "slaves" to run for office, let alone WIN an election. That's just how power and riches work. If you control the money, you control EVERYTHING. Rockefellers taught everyone that. 💪😎🤟 Bottom line: if you're poor, you're a nobody. A slave. A shadow. No one will know you exist, and no one will care when you die. It is what it is.
@@Hjernespreng Wages are growing and living conditions are improving. And even if it wasn't the case, they still have every right to do what their want with what they own. Nobody can harm you by doing what they want with what they own. You're mistaking harm with non-providing. You're mistaking something that was taken away from you with what in fact was just not given, and had no obligations to be given.
Unions are a "double edged sword". They give great power to the workers, but make things worse in areas that workers are not collectively and overwhelmingly in support of. Why have unions taken off? Because wages need to rise and employers want to reduce pay to save up for a possible financial storm in the near future. Employers want a "safe egg" that they can distribute to themselves if the storm never comes, but employees don't want to pay for a "safety net" that won't help them if things go wrong with lack of raises.
Problem was is wage never kept with inflation, there supposed to be an average of 2%-3% annual wage increase, majority of jobs that are in bottom 50% lives on minimum wage never saw a meaningful increase, 49% of upper jobs sustained at least 2% increase, 1% saw 100% plus increase.
Unions don't work well in tech manufacturing. I have worked in two tech manufacturing companies, both had a union. I've also worked in non union companies, but in production. You get to use alot more of your skills in non union production than union manufacturing. I attribute not using the skills to be more because of the union than whether it was production or manufacturing.
It’s all about how a company treats its employees. Unionization is the last resort of an exploited work force. Unionization represents a failure of company management to listen to the concerns of their employees. If all employees truly were greedy and lazy, every company would be unionized.
My dad said that if the employees wanted a union, that’s fine, but the next day he’d close the doors and auction everything. They did unionize, because they thought he was bluffing. Before everyone went home he handed out the final checks with vacation pay due to everyone. One week later all debts paid, taxes paid, W2’s sent, some orders shipped, those not shipped were reimbursed, equipment gone, not even a working phone number, there was nothing left of the business, it vanished. He started a totally new business six months later, the only thing that was the same was him. I asked if he would do it again. He said in a heartbeat, as many times as it takes. He was known to pay the best and have the best benefits in the valley. The company also produced the highest quality components.
There are two types of people. The one who create jobs and the ones who take those jobs. It’s easy to unionize and say pay me more because I think I deserve so. It’s not easy to create a business, start from scratch and take risks.
@@LuisPG92 But these people live in the same economic system as the business owners do however the owners seem to have more "life". It's absolutely not fair or just to pay them too little (despite their function/role in the business) in a system that requires the total sum of their income to get by which in turn leaves them bound to the company to survive. Wages and income have not kept up with costs of living at all, especially in housing.
I can guarantee that a united employee representation will be far better than any system where there is none. Plus governments should make it illegal for employers to have even a voice in anything and should be subjected to the mercy of their employees including their shareholders. Which means the term cutting cost would be outright made illegal without a very strong legitimate argument with at least 10 pages of facts. On top of that, instead of a centralized target I prefer if each store can independently set their own targets made by the employees as it makes it slightly more enjoyable and gives employees a more lighthearted competitive streak. Also, by allowing employees more power they can actually give suggestions to make businesses more efficient as a lot of things are still either inefficient or require a lot of manual repetition work.
It would be huge if Unions get donations of those companies shares large enough to have a seat in the BOD. That would be a game changer because Unions can vote C Suites golden compensation packages.
Be careful, automotive workers unionized, their jobs were outsourced abroad. With Starbucks, Amazon, Apple and Google, the nature of their jobs are more protected as they can only be done locally - but at the same time, they can be reduced e.g. less retail presence, automation.
in that sense we're lucky automation isn't there yet, if I went to Starbucks and a robot or machine made my coffee charged me $8 for it and it tasted like ass I would fling the coffee at the machine and never buy there again, there is value in human presence
@@oscarmendoza8393 Automation will get there sooner with high labor & material cost. Machine makes the coffee, worker passes it to you, tap your card and your gone. Tastes the same, same price, faster, half the staff. Its all going to happen either way but now probably sooner.
@@lov2cyanaked we're a ways off from that, how many people do you know make complex orders, that need a person and how many of those do humans make mistakes in? plus you're not just talking making the drinks in a cup, you're talking people to refill coffee grounds, load milk and ingredients when they run out, clean, be present when a machine malfunctions, prepare food and even there nothing is guaranteed, people thought self driving cars were here look at home many crashes have happened, all it takes is one mistake, or one accident from an automated service and people don't forget, they can't even get automted reply systems right for the phone
@@oscarmendoza8393 I didn't say no staff would be there, they slowly will start bringing in the automation eliminating whoever they can. Self driving isn't perfected yet thats obvious, (assuming this is tesla) people dont forget the accidents but they have no problems buying whatever they put out either. I remember when quality of things was good & someone helped you, those days are gone. Its self checkout now.
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Union member numbers have been steadily decreasing in this country because all the manufacturing jobs have been shipped to Mexico, and the ones that still remain here are done by robotics. A car manufacturing plant used to have 2000 employees all Union, now there's 3 to 400 employees and it's all automated.
@@markket1154 Yeah, but your argument is, that the jobs goes to Mexico, because of unions in the US. I'm just pointing out, that they have unions in Mexico as well. So that's not the reason.
28 an hour to work at an apple store lol. its literally a retail job. thats an insult to people who make 20 an hour working in a factory busting their butt.
The reason there is way less unions now that in the 50’s and 60’s and beyond is because unions get started with good intentions but they get corrupted, look at Ford and GM, Detroit is a sad example of it. We will see the stores being unionized how they fare in a few years compared to the ones that stay the same. 🤔
Unionize Boeing, and let's see Boeing planes crash all over America and see a Boeing 737 MAX crash in Japan to see Boeing being unionize and see that an unsafe plane is union made.
I mean it makes sense for those big name companies to fight back because they don't want to lose more money. However seeing as how Apple loves to charge $1k for each of their iPhones as well as iMacs/Macbooks, they should in turn offer higher wages, especially seeing as how their market cap is well over $1 trillion. On the flip side, each of these individuals who are fighting to unionize could choose a different career path, especially those at Amazon. However, when you choose to battle with a company who cares more about profit than working with a union company, then you only have yourself to blame for wanting to start the fight in the first place. This is why I choose not to support Starbucks, Apple or Amazon (still trying to find ways to not support Google either).
They eventually will. Unions are like comm unism. Eventually there is no incentive to be productive and the companies are no longer able to make a profit with all unproductive workers. Unions are also notorious for enriching those in power of the unions and caring very little for the average worker.
@@TMM-N Not unions, just higher wages! Companies are always looking for a country with cheaper labor. They don't give a flying F about countries, just profits. They go from the US to Mexico to Taiwan to Korea to Indonesia to Vietnam to China always running to another country when the workers want more money. None of those countries had unions but the wages naturally rise with the wealth of the population. I'm into guitars and the guitar market started in the US, then moved to Japan. Then Japan got too expensive so the companies went to Korea. Then the Korean standard of living went up and the workers started making more money so the companies went to China where it was cheaper. Now wages and the standard of living are getting higher in China and they will probably try to find a cheaper country, LOL! It's a nasty, nasty strategy. And it had nothing to do with unions.
As a shareholder of all of these companies I strongly support unionization for all of these companies and any that are large enough to pay for union-busting. If your big enough to afford those efforts you can come to the table and negotiate.
People need to wake up and form a union. Don't ever believe these greedy companies are going to pay you a wage to be able to support your family. It doesn't make sense for a CEO to make millions while paying workers pennies. PRO UNION!
CEO make millions because they are the one making directions and decisions to give all the employees a future . Without those CEO, there will be no companies and there will be no jobs for workers , Stop attacking those CEO, think about what they have done to all the employees - A job , and A Future
@@supadave422 unions are unnatural. they force owners to pay up more for absolutely nothing. Now days workers are already very well treated very well paid . "unions" demand EVEN MORE
@@JY-lg6ee Utter bollocks. CEO’s have no magical value or capabilities. They are ridiculously overpaid because they control where money is allocated in the company; i.e., conflict of interest. Shockingly, in this setup, they (and a few of their crony oligarch buddies in top management) all decide that they should be paid millions if not billions, while the people who do the actual work deserve next to nothing.
umm… it’s been known major companies, not just Apple, have manufacturing and production facilities in countries that cost less for employee wages and taxes.
Yeah - that statement cost her 90% of her credibility with me. Starbucks (or frankly any coffee, hot drink, or lunch you don't make at home before leaving for the day) is a luxury item.
Every time a business unionizes it tends to go downhill. I guarantee Starbucks will not be able to compete with a private coffee house selling cheaper coffee. I'm from Michigan. The unionized auto companies had a terrible time competing with foreign auto companies.
If your company is big enough it should be auto union Small companies wouldn't be able to afford to like mom and pop stores but large companies are pocketing more and more profit while pushing their employees to the wayside
Unions are effectively making positive changes to workers. Benfenfits, sick time, medical, vacation, discipline procedure, worker protection, representation, wages
I see future cutbacks.... Outsourcing. Yep it is possible. 3rd party... companies, etc. There is always a way around the union issues... Look at the past... manufacturing moved to other nations.
Unions are having a moment because people these days think relatively complex and nuanced issues have simplistic straight forward solutions. They'll unionize, they won't suddenly make 50% more money, the union will be taking a cut of the 3% bump in total comp they did get, and the moment will be over. At some point people will realize that standing up for yourself isn't something you can outsource.
@@pychang21 If by union buster you mean person that supports right to work laws that don't force people to become members of a union if they don't want to then guilty as charged.
You cant outsource standing up for yourself. But thats not what a union is. A union has more bargaining power than any individual. You wouldnt wanna sue Volkswagen individually if theres a class action law suits. Yes, the Union will cost you $100 a month, but as said in the video, youll gonna be earning up to $200 more a week
@@schnitzelsemmel Most companies will simply close their stores. Starbucks has already closed 16 stores and all of these employees who voted to unionized lost their jobs. Closed stores = no jobs. Most companies will simply move their businesses to a different location, overseas, or automations. Unionizing will simply push companies to add robots/automation at a more faster rate.
@@BTrain-is8ch yep, he's accurate then and you admit it, you're a union buster. Right to work laws, 🤣🤣🤣😂 what a joke. Good luck simping for the elites.
Record profits plus bailouts and rise in cost of living and salaries that are not keeping up with these cost , yes I am for union ,plus the micromanaging and micro tracking that these companies are employing
@@iliatebenkov473 they dont? they were begging for $15 an hour for years! Now it's way over $17 most jobs , yet the leftist new-Green-Dream skillless activist turds keep on crying. Entitled "Everything should be free" commies
@@jaehparrk Rising profits which come from finding better ways to do things and rising productivity are a good thing. Rising profits which come from declining real wages is just robbing Peter to pay Paul - or, more precisely, robbing the people who do the work to pay the people who don’t.
"The reason why we joined Starbucks is because of its progressive value" dude... You know that's crap. You joined Starbucks because you need to eat and pay your rent. If you could choose a better place you would do it. You're speculating the same way that companies does... The same way that everybody does... I think Unionizing is the same as Companies fixing prices... It's kind of violent. I prefer to think that in a really free economy that wouldn't be something to worry about because competition would destroy speculators that don't take care either of their employees nor the customers. Nowadays, especially since Microsoft 1998 supreme court case, big companies know that , Instead of an unregulated market, a much more regulated one is better for them... So that small competitors never grow :(
Basically, workers create an organization to represent them in the company they're working in. This might be needed because usually companies are a tyranny where workers have almost no say in the company's policies, especially in wages. A union adds some democracy to the system.
@@davidtitanium22 ok I’m understanding just a little of that. So that means workers have an input in pay, policies, schedules, etc? I’m still a bit confused.
My Dad, my Mom and I have all worked under unions. You give them money every month just so years later you can find out somebody was embezzling or misappropriating funds. Those unions did nothing for my Dad my Mom or me. And what happens when everybody gets higher wages, inflation! We think inflation is bad now, you think Starbucks is expensive now, just wait until everybody's unionized.
Yet wages are not rising and are pretty stagnant and inflation is global due to supply shocks. So I don't see the link between unions and inflation. Besides due to inflation many workers are taking a pay cut, which lowers discretionary income and will reduce demand which could worsen a recession.
Way back, I voluntarily did not join the union. I was the first one out of 20,000 employees to not join. They came threatening me saying that they will have me terminated if I didnt join. Also said that I would not get any of the bargained health benefits and such. Obviously I knew that was false. My benefits and pay were the same, obviously, and quickly after, the same union rep is still doing the same thing. Not working and just floating around trying to seem important. I focused on myself and my career growth instead of the nonsense. Union rep was still making $17 an hour and my pay became $90K within 1 year of employment. We started off the same, but mentally at a different place with different goals and ambitions. Three years after, I came across the same shop steward and he was still doing the same thing while complaining how the pay is unfair. Same thing as in avoiding his actual duties and avoiding anything that will have him go above and beyond. His pay increased to whatever the union dictated as an annual percentage increase but still around $18 - $19 an hour. My pay at that point was about $115K and bought a house. Anyway all this happened a long time ago but the moral of the story is to always work hard to improve yourself, by yourself. Dont go in expecting to be entitled to more than what you are already contributing on a dollar basis individually. Also, unions should thoroughly vet the members they decided to make shop stewards...because thats what initially turned me off.
I wonder after a few years how many of these retail stores will vote to dump the union. The reason that union membership has been dropping is high union fees and the unions not giving a damn about the avenge union member. I remember back decades ago most of the union grocery stores in the state went on strike do to an increase of $5 to their health care copay. What shocked me was when I learned that most grocery store workers make minimum wage or close to it and still have to pay very high union fees. The strike lasted a good part of a year and in the end the average worker was screwed over, but the union bosses made out like a bandit. The grocery stores held their ground because as long as the strike kept going they did not have to deal with union BS as they had plenty of people that where more than happy to cross the union line to have a job. I am a truck driver and I have talked to old timer truck drivers who are members of the Teamsters union. Without an exception every one of them told me if that they were not so heavily invested in the union for their retirement, they would tell the union where it could go and what it could do when it gets there. If they crossed the union line and quite working for the union, they would lose most if not all of their retirement pension. They told me to stay away from the teamsters as once they got you in their clutches, they will never let you go. They made it sound as if you were joining the Mob.
Teamsters is a haven compared to most non unionized places I've worked. They provided a decent wage, retirement, safe working space, multiple mandatory breaks, job security, medical, and good leadership(bosses). My coworker on the other hand was worked like a mule since he wasn't part of the union.
Unions are only good if you're In a good union. Worked within unionized Albertsons stores for 7 years of my life, only time I ever got raises were when the city or state voted for a higher minimum wage. On top of earning basically minimum wage, I had union dues taken out of my paychecks putting me in the extreme poverty income bracket. Yea, they give Health insurance, but it's vestigial as it basically covered nothing, not even antiviral treatment for hepc/hiv when I got stuck by a used syringe AT WORK. The environment also rewarded the lazy and punished hard workers as the hard workers were expected to take on more tasks while earning the same paycheck as someone that sits around on their phone. The union put on the facade that they cared, while not listening to employee concerns, only fought for wage increases for the highest income employees and the union committee members visited stores in luxry cars to hand out pins to workers that eat from the food bank and struggle to afford basic housing.
Salary is not solely base on education, supply and demand for that skill set has a big part to to do with Salary. Also, I would l like to enjoy my coffee without being asked for a tip for the workers to feed themselves and maybe loved ones.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 exactly. apple already pays them too much at over $20 per hour. absolute insanity , most college graduates who went thru incredibly tough times to get their degrees fairly makes about $26 or higher and these entitled turds are brazenly asking for same amount!? im angry
This is why those companies are saying they are having a highering freeze, cutting back on projects, etc and claiming it to be because of the economy.... Sounds like passive aggressive economic bullying
Unions aren't necessarily always great. Sometimes they take too much of the workers' pay for nothing in return, and way too often they prevent poor performers from being rightfully fired. It's also a bureaucratic nightmare, and it takes forever to get any changes implemented, vs. a company just increasing benefits on a whim. Also those representatives and bureaucrats don't push papers around for free. But Unions shouldn't be necessary, it's our failed government's job to regulate corporations and protect workers.
With decades of stagnant wages, I don’t see why one would vote against unionizing.
They celebrate now, but when the union dues eat into your paycheck with little benefit in return and you see union officials with expensive cars and vacation homes, they'll realize the double-edged sword of unionizing.
I would say even just the climate of employee abuse.
@@blacksquid270 found the amazon bot
I'll give you a couple. They are fear and habit. People need meat and potatoes on the table. With inflation as it stands today there has to be millions of people one or two paychecks away from homelessness. Employers know this and use it to their advantage. If you will notice you rarely hear a lot of bad press about worker cooperatives. With them unionization is not a problem. Why go out on strike against a company of which you are part owner? Whole Foods, Before Amazon purchased it, was a worker co-op. The largest worker cooperative in the world is in Mandragon, Spain. Last I read it was the seventh largest corporation in Spain.
For some strange reason Americans tend to accept things as they are. It is what it is.
"cUz iTs cOmUNizM"
Nothing is ever wrong with having a voice and representation at a place that we spent a majority of our days, where we work hard to build these global brands only to be paid pennies yet invest millions to tell us No. Yes, unions require work to ensure they are an actual voice but that’s the work of any democratic practice. Proud of all those who are fighting for and who have joined a Union!
@@khunopie9159 * CEOs unable to cope with unionizing, IMO
@@khunopie9159 Not the case here in germany
so go make ur own company and pay 1000/Hour to your employees......
@@pak3ton How is that at all a valid response to Stephanie's post?
Joint two different unions over the years.
Bad choices both times.
Now I'm much better off without the union holding me back.
I have been in a union for the last 21 years. It definitely makes a difference with benefits and structure.
Union workers are some of the laziest people I've ever seen. It promotes mediocrity.
@@ocampbell1954 every work environment has lazy people. The presence of unions just require management to go through more paperwork to get rid of them.
Never been in a Union for the past 20+ years as an IT professional. More than 10+ years in six figures salary and retiring before 56 with 3 homes. I don't need no union.
@@JM-gg8ko my home and my rental properties are paid off as well. I'm also a six-figure earner. None of that matters. The statement I made about benefits and structure was based on the average worker. Every worker doesn't need a union. Many companies give their employees the compensation and benefits at market rate for their professions in order to keep unions out. Unions only exist because many companies are greedy.
@@JM-gg8ko you have good money, because IT is need many workers today. It's no work for enough professionas. I'm live in Russia and i have many money like you, i'm IT too.
Big corporations wouldn’t union-bust if they weren’t scared of unionization
Union’s slow down the companies ability to be competent against nonunion companies. No company wants a union.
Unions have a long history of destroying companies. Most often leaving the members of the local shop unemployed.
@@windmillacres679 companies have a long history of being greedy
@@paisan8766 Sure they do. It's literally their job.
Look, social security is a joke. You will never have a decent lifestyle living on just social security.
My brother in law lives on social security.
$1,450 a month.
That will just about make a house payment- if it's a very small house.
So what is he supposed to do for food and utilities?
The ONLY way you will survive is to work even after you collect social security OR you save money for retirement.
If you save money then you end up investing in the stock market.
That makes YOU a stockholder. A part owner in some "evil corporation."
The corporations have ONE major responsibility. It make as much money as possible for their stockholders.
As a stockholder the person who gets that money is YOU.
The ONLY WAY to win is to invest in the market. Start investing 5% of your income right now. Every year increase that investment by 1 or 2 % a year up to a MINIMUM of 10%
Better if you can do 20%.
I started at 6%. Now I'm up to 15%
Then one day you'll get a statement from your 401k that says you have $100,000 in the bank. (Trust me, it will feel really weird.)
Keep saving and it will suddenly hit 1 million.
After that life takes on a whole different meaning.
It only takes saving a little bit out of every paycheck.
It's all about saving SOMETING for a very long time.
It honestly works.
@@paisan8766 Invest in a 491k and make those greedy corporations make money for YOU!
Employees unionize because the company failed to resolve its own grievances.
Simple as that. If you don't want a union and the hassles it can bring, treat your employees proper.
Having worked for a several union jobs before I can say that some work issues remain, but the paycheck and medical is why I stayed with them for years.
Employers have more control over if a company gets unionized than the unions.
@@terrybumpass4799
Source?
Not a source but experience. We had a union drive in our plant. Management was smart enough to address the issues before the vote. They could do that because the union was so slow at getting the required cards to call the vote.@@ligondesenuts769
Why? Because the business community and their army of lobbyists have spent the last 40 years beating the working class to a pulp for the benefit of investors and executives. Unions bring balance between labor and management.
Many people get bogged down in the minutiae of union vs non union but miss the big picture; are we ok with a few people at the top making 7-8 figures per year while the average employee barely makes enough to scrape by?
Somehow employees are the villains for wanting to have more than a studio apartment and subpar medical coverage.
Nah bro. The people who are anti-union are those who benefit from crushing unions. Nobody with half a brain cell would say no to improving your life standards
These are supposed to be transition jobs not forever jobs. This is the beginning of the end for American global dominance.
@@ballen8905 If that was the case there would be no GM's store managers or managers at all because it's transitioning. I mean what you said makes no sense. The stock market would collapse if there was wasn't working bees filling these jobs. And you're starting to see no one wants these jobs now because people like you. They feel like the job is menial and they won't go anywhere in life so now they aren't even filling these jobs. And no business wants a high turnover rate they want reliable people that will stick with the company and eventually get into managing positions. Why do you think companies are offering tuition reimbursement or flat out paying for college if you stay with them through our school? So yea you are very wrong.
@@ballen8905 Arguably, computer repair technicians at companies like Apple are skilled labors that deserve more appropriate pay. Besides, if you don't pay well and don't offer employee protection enough for a transition job, what motivates people to transition from said jobs to ""forever jobs"", whatever that term even means in 2022?
@@tylersouth4310 he probably heard that on FoxNews. Let him be. He’ll always have a job as a career bootlicker
The apple thing makes perfect sense. Apple advertises the "genius bar" to their customers, implying that geniuses work at apple stores. Who pays a "genius" $20 an hour? Typical corporation, over promising to their customer and under supporting their staff who have to meet those promises made on their behalf. An apple employee is a "genius" in terms of marketing to the customer but just a retail hourly help in terms of negotiating their wages.
@Collen Flarity houses and cars were also multiple times cheaper considering inflation.
Idk why someone can seriously not understand the concept of inflation after the last few years.
@Collen Flarity ah that's not really a factor considering the majority of America lives in 1000 square feet houses just like we did in the fifties.
The only real major difference is that suburban houses newly constructed post 1980s are generally bigger.
But the majority of individuals in America don't live in those kinds of homes.
Even a house with the same dimensions as one built from the fifties would be significantly more expensive with inflation considered.
Your talking about a multiple time increase.
Housing is 30 times more expensive than the fifties yet the federal minimum wage in the fifties to current only increased by about 10 times.
Also healthcare costs and commodity prices have outpaced wages.
It's just kind of a fact that people were proportionally paid more even the lowest jobs in the 50s
I mean $20USD an hour is pretty good… But still good for them
They are paid well for the skills that the job requires. $20 is good pay for that job. I don't understand why they want a union. It seems more from greed than need.
thw worst to me is that they got employee benefits in other countries, they value their employees more in other countries.
My Company conveniently parted ways with anyone considering unionizing. Management roles were placed in a manager organization. Entry level staff was very replaceable at the end of the day.
Of course! The rich are PETRIFIED that the poor will unite against them. 💪😎🤟
Gotta keep the peons and plebs down. Else, the yachts, vacations, exploitation, and corruption will all go bye-bye.
Sorry to hear that. Nobody should be fired for attempting to collectively bargain. What evil scum.
Yep let’s just hire the random crackhead on the street
Which is precisely why unions are so important - to bring balance and fairness to the labour market. Yeah, individual workers might be easily replaceable, but try operating with no entry level workers. Union representation equalizes what is otherwise an unconscionably unjust imbalance of power.
They were able to find people? All I see around here is "help wanted" signs. Even advertisements and announcements over store shop PAs are looking for people
I feel the most important aspect of a union is being protected. You have people who’ll go to battle for you. I’ve been fired from a job where my managers had ego’s and were used to pushing employees around.
Most manufacturing jobs have left America because of Unions and those jobs will never go back and in the meantime, Unions have done nothing to stop 85,000 H1B visas from China and India to come in and take the high paying jobs that should be going to Americans.
@@JM-gg8ko common bootlicker L
@@JM-gg8ko manufacturing left the US because the American Worker was forced to compete against people who makes pennies per hour in Mexico and Asia
@@mattkennedy6115 nah the union and demanding more more and more when the economy time hit hard. that why some us manufacture just left. and some just let japanese car come to US.
dont believe me. just look at detroit.
overpowerd union, lemon car. etc etc.
@@cyranova9627 Chevy's board/CEO sabotaged the product ect also not the only company to do so
chevy helped start Toyota and helped import finished car's to the 🇺🇸 without helping it probably would've failed and or just a support supplier for rubber parts aka thing's detroit can't cheaply make as it's not in the tropics
As a german I can tell you that unions are a good thing, even in terms of productivity.
The aspect that is bad for economic growth and entreprenurial freedom is state intervention.
Germany is a great example on how to communicate with employees
Banning child labour and slavery is also bad for entrepreneurial freedom. Business owners run their employee's lives, from their paycheck to what hours they can and can't be forced to work to earn a living
These companies acting like their workers being in a union is the end of the world.
Yet this is the norm in many other countries in the world, where the worker benefits are superior to those commonly found in the USA.
Be surprised how much money these companies make weather in U.S or foreign country they make money and don’t share with there employees
My union was organized in 1891. In IBEW local 595 and union is the way to go
I find it odd that the same people that will call "entry level" workers greedy for fighting for $15 an hour (basically the equivalent of the federal mimimun wage in the late 1960s) will never call $20,000,000 a year executives greedy. Very strange...................
Indeed. They are bootlickers
A CEO runs a company. A cashier hits a few buttons. I'm not opposed to a $15 minium wage employees getting more money for work is what's great about capitalism.
@@mooseoperator27 so what would happen to the company if all those cashiers that just "push buttons" were not there? Would the CEO be pushing all those buttons? What a foolish argument
@@mooseoperator27 Keep bootlicking, CEOs don’t work any harder than you and I. Let alone 400x the average salary harder. The more money I’ve made, the less strenuous the work I’ve actually done.
@LegM... you're exactly correct.
It's a huge fallacy to pretend that any human being works even 200x harder than anyone else. Especially when it all comes down to algorithms, computer code, marketing, etc.
Companies usually become abusive when there is no checks and balances. This isn't about workers doing something wrong when they create a union, it's about management creating an atmosphere that something is wrong with the company that promotes the formation of a union.
Simple but powerful truth: As soon as a company is publicly traded unionization will be vehemently opposed by management. In management's eyes, any profit that unions require to provide better conditions for employees would be better directed to earnings or stock buybacks or anything else to the benefit of the shareholder at the expense of the employee. Simple but powerful truth.
I have been apart of a union. I only left because I moved. I love the union. It was nothing but good. It felt fair for me.
Proud IBEW member. Makes a huge difference. Don't anyone lie to you. Benefits and wages are far better working in a union shop.
Im IBEW too. What local?
As a Teamster, I can say that being Union is life changing, I make $27 an hour, the company also puts $7.83 an hour into my Unions pension fund for my retirement, the company also has to put $11.73 an hour into my health plan through my union. My insurance has $0 deductible and I can pretty much go to any doctor or hospital I want. Unionize! You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor. #Teamsters #Local222 💪
I make $32/h with a cdl.
@@Q-gf8vb how are your benefits ?
Unions must exist...otherwise...we're Mexico...and we're "close now".
No American company gives "a rats ass" about its people.. and this is world-wide...not just in America or China.
If you don't run your own affairs...your affairs are "run for you. Period.
Well, here in Mexico we have govt. Subsidized healthcare for workers, public universities and some really strong unions. In that front we are ahead the US, only being hampered by corruption and low budgets.
They have RECORD PROFITS every single year...
Yet, their fundamental level workers, that produce the MOST value in the company, doesn't get pay raise... HOW?
It's called Management, lol. They got paid first; then, the crumbs went to the workers.
Not every company does this thought.
Investors decide whether or not its enough profit. If they don't produce adequate growth every single quarter then they are forced by the market to cut payroll. Its a perpetual cycle of loss for workers unionized or not.
Fact: if unions sucked, employers would not care.
100% they are scared, as they should be
Good for them man. I hope they can continue to make strides now that more union groups are being established.
These greedy cry babies fighting for the right to bully their company into paying them far beyond their skills, driving up inflation do NOT deserve praise. I make a lot less than my age group, but I made decisions in my life without a gun to my head. IE quitting school at 16, I always planned to go back but didnt, I also planned to take some college courses, you don't need a grade 12 diploma where I come from, but I never did. Personal responsibility seems to be a foreign concept to many people these days.
I'm proud of these workers. More of us need to follow their lead.
if big companies valued employees like they didn't their customers it would never happen.
I love when they workers family.
You know that if employees don’t feel valued, they can always look for another job? Unions just create a huge red-tape and corruption in terms of hiring/firing employees.
@@sak_5 you are right, I'm glad we aren't lacking well payed, interesting jobs.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 and if you still don’t find your dream job, you are always welcome to set up your own business, unless you live in North Korea, Cuba or the like.
@@sak_5 how much does it cost to setup a lemonade stand legally 🤔. I would really want to see what would happen if workers would just stop working from all industries, I would really want to see if these fearless leaders will stepup to the plate and still provide products and services.
Unionized jobs last longer & brings a low turnover rate. Also better wages. Otherwise they fire you over the smallest things.
It seems you don’t own a company. Imagine having one in a free market, yet having to go through a huge red-tape when trying to fire someone you consider is not contributing to your company.
Turnover is hugely expensive for companies. Why would a company want to fire somebody for a small thing?
@@BarryPiper ask McDonald's.
@@sak_5 i reference McDonald's.
@@BarryPiper Walmart used to have times when they “needed to clear the house” to save payroll, not sure if they still do this since it was years ago. But they would have management walk out anyone with D-days or tardy records, or whatever reason they can be used to justified. A couple months later the employee can apply for the job again and if they get hired, they’ll start all over again at based pay.
As a proud union member in the airline industry, I’m shocked more people don’t do it. Our union (ALPA) is probably one of the best in the globe.
More people don't do it because often companies have grey area policies that allow them to easily fire people who attempt to unionize. In the US there aren't nearly as many protections for workers as there are in the rest of the world. In Europe for example a company can literally be put under investigation if they fire workers for trying to unionize where as in the US companies are effectively allowed to do it with hardly anyone in our judicial system batting an eye.
I worked in the CWA (mentioned in the video) for several years. I know unions were hugely transformative in the 1800s-1900s but some of my CWA coworkers were some of the laziest bunch of people I ever worked with. When I suggested that some of my peers not sleep at their desks or not cut out 15 minutes early because they might get reprimanded for it, their response was usually "what are they gonna do, we're in a union!" Not everyone was like this, of course, but a good 30-40% of the floor I worked on seemed to be like that. I often felt like I was doing most of the heavy listing.
I know that, without unions, it would be just as bad if not worse in the other direction - as it seems to be now in many mega-companies. I just wish there were a happy middle ground.
Should've fired them if they were lazy, Union workers deserve hard working members. Also reform the union without destroying the union in the process
you sound like a teachers pet obnoxious person . who tells people to not nap at their desk when they are tired ? you don’t know what people are going through .
People are no longer slaving for giant companies 🤷🏽♀️
@@pudanielson1 in a union shop it is really hard to fire workers for merely perceived issues like laziness. It takes many instances of policy violations and meetings with the shop steward for "coaching" to give the employee a chance to turn themselves around. Most management teams won't waste the time and effort, instead they'll shift work over to reliable workers. "Let the babies have their bottles; we know who the productive workers are".
Eh, there are lazy NON-unionized workers out there.
They suddenly closed the Starbucks near my work citing safety reasons read in the news they had Unionize a month earlier. This company is evil and I won’t give them my money any more
As a designer, Macintosh or now Apple always have a place in my heart. Over pass 23 years I grow from love to right down hate the company, it conduct and products. The quality of product and operating system has so much rubbish on them. And now they don’t even treat their employee properly. I rather do my design on pen and paper with water color than buy new iMac from company that so greedy. I still use iPhone I pray there better brand in the future
The corporate class has many methods to stop unionization. Thoughtful planning and perseverance will always win against them so please don't give up. It can change everything on this planet.
I F**kin' love this development!!! Unionize people!
Quite funny coming from a company valued at almost 3 trillion and with more than 600 billion in liquid cash(apple) but they make gross amounts of money and don't pay much taxes with the idea of paying work which they don't. Also, the most prosperous time in the united states also had the highest percentages of unions. I hope they continue the fight
This is straight up wrong. Apple Paid 18bn in corporate taxes in 2021. apple has 48 Bn of cash and cash equivalents as as of 6/30. no idea where you get those numbers from.
Nurses are next. We definitely need a union nationally. Putting patients at risk giving Nurses more than they can handle. Great job workers
The fact nasty ass Cops have a union but nurses don't is disgusting to me
Could a union for nurses put patients at risk? What if they go on strike and people are dying in hospitals?
I think that some professions, like those in charge of people's health and life, should not have a union.
These CEO's are rich enough, they can afford it.
CEOs are greedy and will not give a dime to help. They just look out for themselves and their bonuses.
The one guy at the beginning is unknowingly 100% correct.
The people who are working at these stores that are unionizing are over educated (and arguably unneedingly educated).
Go to any fast food restaurant you're going to find more cash registers mean by robots than you are people.
Starbucks and Apple is not actually a progressive company's, they are just trying to pander towards a demographic that they believe are willing to overpay for their products.
The only reason these companies have not already in place more of their employees with robots is because their corporate boards have decided the high cost for a human workforce our negligible when you account for the clientele it allows them to pander to.
These employees are simply adding to the numerous reasons to get rid of them.
Also a lot of the Starbucks locations that have closed down and have cited numerous health problems such as drug use in the bathroom. A problem that only occurred because the corporate board decided to pander towards a progressive clientele a few years ago.
I personally no longer go to Starbucks due to their overpriced coffee and the decrease in cleanliness of their stores. Something tells me that the people who want to unionize are not going to be the people who believe their stores will look better if they kick out the homeless people.
People don’t want robots. They don’t even want to talk on the phone when it comes to tech. Most want hands on help with purchases and trouble shooting. Apple couldn’t replace the people in store with “robots” even if they wanted to.
You have a good point, but you’re underestimating the work that these employees do if you think they’re replaceable by robots.
You are correct on the front that a significant portion of these positions are replaceable: taking orders at the drive-thru, accepting payment at the cash register, selling a customer an iPad, etc. However, things like preparing a blended drink, troubleshooting a 2 hour technical problem, handling a warranty claim and convincing a customer to make a purchase cannot fully be replaced by robots. But yes, I do see major restructuring away from brick & mortar within these companies if unions gain more appeal.
Personally, I think this should be a signal for Starbucks to make big company changes and possibly even rebrand, because their prominence in the coffee space is fading (at least I feel like it is as a mid-twenties coffee drinker lol, and I even used to work there in my late teens). I don’t see younger generations finding as much excitement in the brand as mine did. It’s evolved to have a very corporate feel, plus the product is just bad. Apple will be fine though. This may sound crazy, but I can picture Apple entering the ‘place to gather / coffee’ market that Starbucks is in. Their last retail head was pushing for something similar with ‘Today at Apple.’
@@D_Webb not necessarily robots what you do is you call it self-service and it's a luxury.
So you know how you go to the supermarket and you grab a cart so that you can go and pick items off the shelves.
So until Piggly wiggly opened that used to be something the store employees would do for you. Not only did his move reduce the number of employees required but they also sold it as a service as where you could personally choose which vegetables and fruits you buy.
Starbucks could easily do this they only need about one or two people to make the drinks. Even then they figured out how to replace those humans with vending machines in both Italy and Japan.
@@D_Webb
Yes, they do. Whilst not autonomous, self checkout has become the norm. Having an app or program to input your own order is quickly becoming a standard, and a series of machines can do pretty much anything and everything in a Starbucks without the necessity of human intervention. Would you even necessarily be aware that machines did the work; synthetic software voices were quite realistic with some moderate tweaks more than 15 years ago? If you were to hear a relatively generic voice calling out your name whilst your order is sitting on the counter, it's doubtful that you would ever be able to tell how much an actual human was involved in the entire process. Automation has been happening incrementally since the joints originally opened. You are simply unaware of most processes.
Deep fat fried food can nearly go from start to finish these days.
Robots are rarely in humanoid form. There are even full robot bands programmed to play exactly what is heard on an album. Live music will one day be maybe a singer with robots performing with real instruments on-site.
Now let’s talk about the downside of unions
There are some like seniority is valued more than hard work but wages and benefits are far better in a union shop. I worked 20 years non union. It basically sucked. High insurance deductibles, Crappy 401K, and less vacation time. No thanks.
I guess that I have to pay 8 dollars per check hahah but then again we make 64 dollars an hour 😂 and that’s take home.
@@TRONMAGNUM2099 I get a month off paid
The downsides are nothing compared to the upsides
I worked in a Union a few years ago. I was hoping to go from Lot Associate to Cashier and busted my ass everyday to show that I was the best person for the job. When a position opened up I expressed my interest to the manager and he said no. He acknowledged that I worked hard and had a good head on my shoulders. However, he stated that tenure takes priority in any promotion opportunity and NOT ability. I then put in my two weeks.
And then what?
@@bazz6490 I went and found a job that would move me up based on how well I worked and not on how long I been employed.
@@ske-pho3049 cool. And what happen to the union you worked for did they regret not promoting you.?
@@bazz6490 probably not, last I heard they still exist doing their thing.
Exactly. You're ALWAYS replaceable. Always. All slaves are. 💪😎🤟
Workers have a right of unionizing, and employers have a right to fight that.
And anyone supporting the megacorps' fight is a gullible tool. Record profits year over year, yet wages keep being slashed and hours get longer, and enployment stability scarcer.
These corporstions are bo different than feudal nobility. They won't give you good conditions and wages out of kindness.
Of course. But employees have *WAY* less resources, lol! 😂🤣😂
That's why only the RICH can run for offices, political positions, etc. It's literally impossible (meaning: IMPOSSIBLE) for peons and "slaves" to run for office, let alone WIN an election.
That's just how power and riches work. If you control the money, you control EVERYTHING. Rockefellers taught everyone that. 💪😎🤟
Bottom line: if you're poor, you're a nobody. A slave. A shadow. No one will know you exist, and no one will care when you die. It is what it is.
@@Hjernespreng Wages are growing and living conditions are improving. And even if it wasn't the case, they still have every right to do what their want with what they own. Nobody can harm you by doing what they want with what they own. You're mistaking harm with non-providing. You're mistaking something that was taken away from you with what in fact was just not given, and had no obligations to be given.
Unions are a "double edged sword". They give great power to the workers, but make things worse in areas that workers are not collectively and overwhelmingly in support of.
Why have unions taken off? Because wages need to rise and employers want to reduce pay to save up for a possible financial storm in the near future. Employers want a "safe egg" that they can distribute to themselves if the storm never comes, but employees don't want to pay for a "safety net" that won't help them if things go wrong with lack of raises.
Problem was is wage never kept with inflation, there supposed to be an average of 2%-3% annual wage increase, majority of jobs that are in bottom 50% lives on minimum wage never saw a meaningful increase, 49% of upper jobs sustained at least 2% increase, 1% saw 100% plus increase.
Unions don't work well in tech manufacturing. I have worked in two tech manufacturing companies, both had a union. I've also worked in non union companies, but in production. You get to use alot more of your skills in non union production than union manufacturing.
I attribute not using the skills to be more because of the union than whether it was production or manufacturing.
It’s all about how a company treats its employees. Unionization is the last resort of an exploited work force. Unionization represents a failure of company management to listen to the concerns of their employees. If all employees truly were greedy and lazy, every company would be unionized.
Nice scab lies
Just having a union doesnt mean anything, hold off on celebrating until you have a contract lol
I don't buy apple products or go to Starbucks. However I am for a livable wage. However someone getting 27hr for coffee is crazy stupid.
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Most Americans want unions they just don't want to go through this scary union busting process
Union busting process = divide and conquer
amazon & starbucks & all these workers deserve to make better money it’s ridiculous how hard they over work these people
Sure, but I would not include Apple retail employees. They are being paid well, at least $20/hr.
Good job unionizing guys! 🎉😊 best wishes from Canada!
My dad said that if the employees wanted a union, that’s fine, but the next day he’d close the doors and auction everything. They did unionize, because they thought he was bluffing. Before everyone went home he handed out the final checks with vacation pay due to everyone. One week later all debts paid, taxes paid, W2’s sent, some orders shipped, those not shipped were reimbursed, equipment gone, not even a working phone number, there was nothing left of the business, it vanished. He started a totally new business six months later, the only thing that was the same was him. I asked if he would do it again. He said in a heartbeat, as many times as it takes. He was known to pay the best and have the best benefits in the valley. The company also produced the highest quality components.
There are two types of people. The one who create jobs and the ones who take those jobs. It’s easy to unionize and say pay me more because I think I deserve so. It’s not easy to create a business, start from scratch and take risks.
@@LuisPG92 But these people live in the same economic system as the business owners do however the owners seem to have more "life". It's absolutely not fair or just to pay them too little (despite their function/role in the business) in a system that requires the total sum of their income to get by which in turn leaves them bound to the company to survive. Wages and income have not kept up with costs of living at all, especially in housing.
Overeducated shouldn't be a thing
I can guarantee that a united employee representation will be far better than any system where there is none.
Plus governments should make it illegal for employers to have even a voice in anything and should be subjected to the mercy of their employees including their shareholders. Which means the term cutting cost would be outright made illegal without a very strong legitimate argument with at least 10 pages of facts.
On top of that, instead of a centralized target I prefer if each store can independently set their own targets made by the employees as it makes it slightly more enjoyable and gives employees a more lighthearted competitive streak. Also, by allowing employees more power they can actually give suggestions to make businesses more efficient as a lot of things are still either inefficient or require a lot of manual repetition work.
So you want to be a boss one Someone ele money
My union is useless xD. Takes money every week and can't negotiate for anything.
It would be huge if Unions get donations of those companies shares large enough to have a seat in the BOD. That would be a game changer because Unions can vote C Suites golden compensation packages.
@@Carlos_Alcaraz lol
In U.S. unions and management are considered adversarial, in Sweden they are partners who work together.
Be careful, automotive workers unionized, their jobs were outsourced abroad.
With Starbucks, Amazon, Apple and Google, the nature of their jobs are more protected as they can only be done locally - but at the same time, they can be reduced e.g. less retail presence, automation.
in that sense we're lucky automation isn't there yet, if I went to Starbucks and a robot or machine made my coffee charged me $8 for it and it tasted like ass I would fling the coffee at the machine and never buy there again, there is value in human presence
@@oscarmendoza8393 Automation will get there sooner with high labor & material cost. Machine makes the coffee, worker passes it to you, tap your card and your gone. Tastes the same, same price, faster, half the staff. Its all going to happen either way but now probably sooner.
@@lov2cyanaked we're a ways off from that, how many people do you know make complex orders, that need a person and how many of those do humans make mistakes in? plus you're not just talking making the drinks in a cup, you're talking people to refill coffee grounds, load milk and ingredients when they run out, clean, be present when a machine malfunctions, prepare food and even there nothing is guaranteed, people thought self driving cars were here look at home many crashes have happened, all it takes is one mistake, or one accident from an automated service and people don't forget, they can't even get automted reply systems right for the phone
@@oscarmendoza8393 I didn't say no staff would be there, they slowly will start bringing in the automation eliminating whoever they can. Self driving isn't perfected yet thats obvious, (assuming this is tesla) people dont forget the accidents but they have no problems buying whatever they put out either. I remember when quality of things was good & someone helped you, those days are gone. Its self checkout now.
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Union member numbers have been steadily decreasing in this country because all the manufacturing jobs have been shipped to Mexico, and the ones that still remain here are done by robotics. A car manufacturing plant used to have 2000 employees all Union, now there's 3 to 400 employees and it's all automated.
"Approximately 90% of Mexican production workers in industrial enterprises that employ at least twenty-five employees are unionized."
@@akyhne We were talking about Union workers in the USA not in Mexico
@@markket1154 Yeah, but your argument is, that the jobs goes to Mexico, because of unions in the US.
I'm just pointing out, that they have unions in Mexico as well. So that's not the reason.
@@akyhne The reason they sent the jobs to Mexico's goes to laborate down there's cheaper
@@akyhne That's what you call critical thinking skills. 👏👏👏
My union changed my life. They treat me very well
I'm sorry how can google's contracters unionize? Google can just find other contractors.
That is what they HAVE been doing. Now that it is a Union shop they cannot just do that.
👏👏👏👏👏The giant company that really needs a union is Walmart!!👏👏👏👏
28 an hour to work at an apple store lol. its literally a retail job. thats an insult to people who make 20 an hour working in a factory busting their butt.
They should unionize.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 I was about to type this too!
Congratulations from Sweden! Strong unions mean a strong working class.
That's really wrong ... Have you heard about Detroit ?
Same, Greetings from Germany. Unions are very important for the workers here!
Do you know how poor those European countries are ??
@@sesaba The Detroit auto-industry failed due to lack of demand as the Japanese made better cars, it wasn't due to unions.
@@JY-lg6ee Lmfao Sweden and Germany has a far higher living standard than the U.S. Turn off Fox News and see reality.
The reason there is way less unions now that in the 50’s and 60’s and beyond is because unions get started with good intentions but they get corrupted, look at Ford and GM, Detroit is a sad example of it. We will see the stores being unionized how they fare in a few years compared to the ones that stay the same. 🤔
Unionize Boeing, and let's see Boeing planes crash all over America and see a Boeing 737 MAX crash in Japan to see Boeing being unionize and see that an unsafe plane is union made.
I mean it makes sense for those big name companies to fight back because they don't want to lose more money. However seeing as how Apple loves to charge $1k for each of their iPhones as well as iMacs/Macbooks, they should in turn offer higher wages, especially seeing as how their market cap is well over $1 trillion. On the flip side, each of these individuals who are fighting to unionize could choose a different career path, especially those at Amazon. However, when you choose to battle with a company who cares more about profit than working with a union company, then you only have yourself to blame for wanting to start the fight in the first place. This is why I choose not to support Starbucks, Apple or Amazon (still trying to find ways to not support Google either).
I really hope all that woke greedy corporations get recked by unions.
What happens to the workers when the union wrecks their company?
They eventually will. Unions are like comm unism. Eventually there is no incentive to be productive and the companies are no longer able to make a profit with all unproductive workers. Unions are also notorious for enriching those in power of the unions and caring very little for the average worker.
how you are valued is how hard you are to replace. that's why companies i interview now ask what i want to do instead of what i know to do.
I'm glad to see unions making a comeback. That's what made the middle class.
One of the reason why manufacturers moved to asia due to unions pushing wages up
@@TMM-N Not unions, just higher wages! Companies are always looking for a country with cheaper labor. They don't give a flying F about countries, just profits. They go from the US to Mexico to Taiwan to Korea to Indonesia to Vietnam to China always running to another country when the workers want more money. None of those countries had unions but the wages naturally rise with the wealth of the population.
I'm into guitars and the guitar market started in the US, then moved to Japan. Then Japan got too expensive so the companies went to Korea. Then the Korean standard of living went up and the workers started making more money so the companies went to China where it was cheaper. Now wages and the standard of living are getting higher in China and they will probably try to find a cheaper country, LOL! It's a nasty, nasty strategy. And it had nothing to do with unions.
As a shareholder of all of these companies I strongly support unionization for all of these companies and any that are large enough to pay for union-busting. If your big enough to afford those efforts you can come to the table and negotiate.
Big enough ?? Do you know how many Starbuck Stores had closed and shut down in the past 10 years ??
Unions in theory support employees !
All power to the workers!
@@Carlos_Alcaraz keep dreaming.
@@el5880 lol keep dreaming. It's already happening. AI are coming next.
@@ocampbell1954 no it hasn’t and it never will.
@@el5880 lol at it hasn't. Your cellphone has AI. Tesla has AI in it's FSD. They're also building robots. What rock are you living under?
@@ocampbell1954 workers built the iPhone. Keep dreaming.
People need to wake up and form a union. Don't ever believe these greedy companies are going to pay you a wage to be able to support your family. It doesn't make sense for a CEO to make millions while paying workers pennies. PRO UNION!
i assume you dont hold stocks?
CEO make millions because they are the one making directions and decisions to give all the employees a future . Without those CEO, there will be no companies and there will be no jobs for workers , Stop attacking those CEO, think about what they have done to all the employees - A job , and A Future
@@jaehparrk Pro union here, We can screen shot our portfolios to see who owns more.
@@supadave422 unions are unnatural. they force owners to pay up more for absolutely nothing. Now days workers are already very well treated very well paid . "unions" demand EVEN MORE
@@JY-lg6ee Utter bollocks. CEO’s have no magical value or capabilities. They are ridiculously overpaid because they control where money is allocated in the company; i.e., conflict of interest. Shockingly, in this setup, they (and a few of their crony oligarch buddies in top management) all decide that they should be paid millions if not billions, while the people who do the actual work deserve next to nothing.
Now we know why apple won’t even dream about building iPhones in the US, makes sense now
Most countries have unions.
umm… it’s been known major companies, not just Apple, have manufacturing and production facilities in countries that cost less for employee wages and taxes.
They will once everything is automated. Selling iPhones made in the US must cost like 5k $
SUPPORT UNIONIZING!!!
Good for you guys!
when all the work is outsourced to china and other asian or eurasian countries where they die working, ask why not
How the hell is ANYONE at a Starbucks a "necessary" worker?
The world stops turning is certain people don't get their coffee?
Yeah - that statement cost her 90% of her credibility with me. Starbucks (or frankly any coffee, hot drink, or lunch you don't make at home before leaving for the day) is a luxury item.
Working class is waking up
Unions assume they are against the f company, and that's more stupid than ariana grande.
Every time a business unionizes it tends to go downhill. I guarantee Starbucks will not be able to compete with a private coffee house selling cheaper coffee. I'm from Michigan. The unionized auto companies had a terrible time competing with foreign auto companies.
All union workers required to use 50% wage to buy a company stocks.
If your company is big enough it should be auto union
Small companies wouldn't be able to afford to like mom and pop stores but large companies are pocketing more and more profit while pushing their employees to the wayside
Unions are effectively making positive changes to workers. Benfenfits, sick time, medical, vacation, discipline procedure, worker protection, representation, wages
I see future cutbacks....
Outsourcing. Yep it is possible. 3rd party... companies, etc.
There is always a way around the union issues...
Look at the past... manufacturing moved to other nations.
Bravo! Now, that's how to fight back against exploitation.
Unions are having a moment because people these days think relatively complex and nuanced issues have simplistic straight forward solutions. They'll unionize, they won't suddenly make 50% more money, the union will be taking a cut of the 3% bump in total comp they did get, and the moment will be over.
At some point people will realize that standing up for yourself isn't something you can outsource.
@@pychang21 If by union buster you mean person that supports right to work laws that don't force people to become members of a union if they don't want to then guilty as charged.
You cant outsource standing up for yourself. But thats not what a union is. A union has more bargaining power than any individual. You wouldnt wanna sue Volkswagen individually if theres a class action law suits. Yes, the Union will cost you $100 a month, but as said in the video, youll gonna be earning up to $200 more a week
@@schnitzelsemmel
Most companies will simply close their stores. Starbucks has already closed 16 stores and all of these employees who voted to unionized lost their jobs. Closed stores = no jobs.
Most companies will simply move their businesses to a different location, overseas, or automations. Unionizing will simply push companies to add robots/automation at a more faster rate.
@@terriesmith2616 the point is to go after the Starbucks leadership that is closing the stores… not the union members
@@BTrain-is8ch yep, he's accurate then and you admit it, you're a union buster. Right to work laws, 🤣🤣🤣😂 what a joke. Good luck simping for the elites.
They want to be paid more while they work for a business that sells a $10 coffee. LOL
Who do you think gets the lion's share of that 10$? certainly isnt the workers right now.
Record profits plus bailouts and rise in cost of living and salaries that are not keeping up with these cost , yes I am for union ,plus the micromanaging and micro tracking that these companies are employing
record profits is a bad thing because?
@@jaehparrk they didn't say profits are bad, they said that while profits are at an all time high, workers don't get their fair share.
@@iliatebenkov473 they dont? they were begging for $15 an hour for years! Now it's way over $17 most jobs , yet the leftist new-Green-Dream skillless activist turds keep on crying. Entitled "Everything should be free" commies
@@jaehparrk Rising profits which come from finding better ways to do things and rising productivity are a good thing. Rising profits which come from declining real wages is just robbing Peter to pay Paul - or, more precisely, robbing the people who do the work to pay the people who don’t.
@@JohnnyAmerique u didnt read my comment? we already gave them fair wage. they want more n more , entitledments keep sucking shareholders blood
A real union wage is a greater than a living. Why unions are essential to survival and living.
"The reason why we joined Starbucks is because of its progressive value" dude... You know that's crap. You joined Starbucks because you need to eat and pay your rent. If you could choose a better place you would do it. You're speculating the same way that companies does... The same way that everybody does... I think Unionizing is the same as Companies fixing prices... It's kind of violent. I prefer to think that in a really free economy that wouldn't be something to worry about because competition would destroy speculators that don't take care either of their employees nor the customers. Nowadays, especially since Microsoft 1998 supreme court case, big companies know that , Instead of an unregulated market, a much more regulated one is better for them... So that small competitors never grow :(
Big corporates like " YOU WANT TO DO UNION, FINE. WE WILL FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE LAWS TO SUPRESS UNIONISATION." Good Luck
Someone educate me. EXACTLY what does it mean to be unionized
Basically, workers create an organization to represent them in the company they're working in. This might be needed because usually companies are a tyranny where workers have almost no say in the company's policies, especially in wages. A union adds some democracy to the system.
@@davidtitanium22 ok I’m understanding just a little of that. So that means workers have an input in pay, policies, schedules, etc? I’m still a bit confused.
@@Reezy884 very indirectly, the same way you (a voter) have on local politician policy.
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 oooh ok I’m starting to understand now
@@Reezy884 just read the article 'trade union' in wikipedia
every company that was unionizing was a surprise EXCEPT FOR Activision-Blizzard. it was only a matter of time.
My Dad, my Mom and I have all worked under unions. You give them money every month just so years later you can find out somebody was embezzling or misappropriating funds. Those unions did nothing for my Dad my Mom or me. And what happens when everybody gets higher wages, inflation! We think inflation is bad now, you think Starbucks is expensive now, just wait until everybody's unionized.
Yet wages are not rising and are pretty stagnant and inflation is global due to supply shocks. So I don't see the link between unions and inflation. Besides due to inflation many workers are taking a pay cut, which lowers discretionary income and will reduce demand which could worsen a recession.
*Unions are just for being in Bed with Progressives* ......
Agreed
Way back, I voluntarily did not join the union. I was the first one out of 20,000 employees to not join. They came threatening me saying that they will have me terminated if I didnt join. Also said that I would not get any of the bargained health benefits and such. Obviously I knew that was false.
My benefits and pay were the same, obviously, and quickly after, the same union rep is still doing the same thing. Not working and just floating around trying to seem important. I focused on myself and my career growth instead of the nonsense. Union rep was still making $17 an hour and my pay became $90K within 1 year of employment. We started off the same, but mentally at a different place with different goals and ambitions. Three years after, I came across the same shop steward and he was still doing the same thing while complaining how the pay is unfair. Same thing as in avoiding his actual duties and avoiding anything that will have him go above and beyond. His pay increased to whatever the union dictated as an annual percentage increase but still around $18 - $19 an hour. My pay at that point was about $115K and bought a house.
Anyway all this happened a long time ago but the moral of the story is to always work hard to improve yourself, by yourself. Dont go in expecting to be entitled to more than what you are already contributing on a dollar basis individually. Also, unions should thoroughly vet the members they decided to make shop stewards...because thats what initially turned me off.
I wonder after a few years how many of these retail stores will vote to dump the union. The reason that union membership has been dropping is high union fees and the unions not giving a damn about the avenge union member.
I remember back decades ago most of the union grocery stores in the state went on strike do to an increase of $5 to their health care copay. What shocked me was when I learned that most grocery store workers make minimum wage or close to it and still have to pay very high union fees. The strike lasted a good part of a year and in the end the average worker was screwed over, but the union bosses made out like a bandit. The grocery stores held their ground because as long as the strike kept going they did not have to deal with union BS as they had plenty of people that where more than happy to cross the union line to have a job.
I am a truck driver and I have talked to old timer truck drivers who are members of the Teamsters union. Without an exception every one of them told me if that they were not so heavily invested in the union for their retirement, they would tell the union where it could go and what it could do when it gets there. If they crossed the union line and quite working for the union, they would lose most if not all of their retirement pension. They told me to stay away from the teamsters as once they got you in their clutches, they will never let you go. They made it sound as if you were joining the Mob.
Teamsters is a haven compared to most non unionized places I've worked. They provided a decent wage, retirement, safe working space, multiple mandatory breaks, job security, medical, and good leadership(bosses). My coworker on the other hand was worked like a mule since he wasn't part of the union.
@@SuperFang1 I have delt with union shops as a truck driver. Hell would freeze over before I would join a union.
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Im sure companies and their Union busting lawyers would love you.
Solidarity forever
God bless unions🇺🇸
Unions are only good if you're In a good union.
Worked within unionized Albertsons stores for 7 years of my life, only time I ever got raises were when the city or state voted for a higher minimum wage. On top of earning basically minimum wage, I had union dues taken out of my paychecks putting me in the extreme poverty income bracket. Yea, they give Health insurance, but it's vestigial as it basically covered nothing, not even antiviral treatment for hepc/hiv when I got stuck by a used syringe AT WORK. The environment also rewarded the lazy and punished hard workers as the hard workers were expected to take on more tasks while earning the same paycheck as someone that sits around on their phone. The union put on the facade that they cared, while not listening to employee concerns, only fought for wage increases for the highest income employees and the union committee members visited stores in luxry cars to hand out pins to workers that eat from the food bank and struggle to afford basic housing.
$26 BUCKS PER HOUR for low skill no-college-degree Apple worker!?
Doesn't matter.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 what do you mean?
Salary is not solely base on education, supply and demand for that skill set has a big part to to do with Salary. Also, I would l like to enjoy my coffee without being asked for a tip for the workers to feed themselves and maybe loved ones.
@@ledwysdelgado7304 exactly. apple already pays them too much at over $20 per hour. absolute insanity , most college graduates who went thru incredibly tough times to get their degrees fairly makes about $26 or higher and these entitled turds are brazenly asking for same amount!? im angry
@@jaehparrk thats not up to me or you, its up to the labor market.
This is why those companies are saying they are having a highering freeze, cutting back on projects, etc and claiming it to be because of the economy.... Sounds like passive aggressive economic bullying
CNBC should do a two sided story why unions don’t work in times.
That round building is an eyesore
Unions aren't necessarily always great. Sometimes they take too much of the workers' pay for nothing in return, and way too often they prevent poor performers from being rightfully fired. It's also a bureaucratic nightmare, and it takes forever to get any changes implemented, vs. a company just increasing benefits on a whim. Also those representatives and bureaucrats don't push papers around for free. But Unions shouldn't be necessary, it's our failed government's job to regulate corporations and protect workers.
CNBC employees next to unionize???