Archery In the upcoming Robin Hood Movie
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- Usually movie archery is a combination of computer animation and limited knowledge about historical archery, the new Robin Hood movie is different!!
The upcoming Robin Hood movie starring Taron Egerton has been underway for some years now. For me, the journey started in 2015, when Otto Bathurst, the director of the movie, traveled to Denmark to get instruction in the art of historical archery.
I’ve since trained several of the actors in the film, and a couple of them became very good with the bow and arrow. Taron, who plays Robin Hood, might not be able to shoot as well as the legendary archer, but he’s not too far behind.
During the process, I was fortunate enough to be allowed to develop some of the archery tricks that are seen in the movie - something which I’m both proud of, and humbled by.
Together with the researcher Bede Dwyer (the person I know with the most comprehensive knowledge about archery) and Nick “Bigbowbrum” Birmingham, I got the opportunity to influence how archery was portrayed in the film.
( • Robin Hood Origins ) video where Nick Birmingham tells of the long longbow draw)
In order to train the actors, I needed a whole new training system. Taron Egerton especially proved to be a challenge here, since I needed to train him to be able to do amazing shots himself right from the start. The saying was “The less CGI arrows the better”.
Taron worked hard over the course of 2016-2017 to be able to play the part of this “historic super archer”. From the very beginning I had hoped it would be possible to teach him how to shoot incredibly fast, since speed is an essential component of several of the historic archery “expert” systems.
I have made a page about the three historical texts, that allow us to do calculations on speed here: 23.dk/9historis...
As I wanted to document this process, I’ve put together two videos - one that’s fast and dirty and to the point, and the other (much longer!), where we get to geek out and get technical and nerdy about historical archery.
Obviously, even a Hollywood movie has its limitations on budget and what’s possible, but in the end, a lot of what we wanted to do, ended up in the final film.
I hope you’ll enjoy watching this behind-the-scenes footage as much as I enjoyed being there for the making of it.
FINAL WORDS
Thank you for watching my videos and for reading.
I will remove rude and dumb comments.
I will also remove dumb “archery experts” comments.
Lars Andersen 2018
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Took my time and read some comments of people who seem to be pros, as they have 0 subs. What Lars shows is historically correct, you might simply have to research better sources and not only copy paste some trolls opinion - ofc that is the easiest way. You can find a ton of information about all the shown shooting styles. And then you have the one telling you that all this needs to be performed with only warbows... well. Mostly that comes from people who draw a fifty pounder... Do you guys really think that bow and arrow, the major weapon for thousands of years in all cultures, is only the little you know? Why not simply sit back and enjoy some insane and good archery in the movie?
What Lars does is 'trick shooting' no doubt. But that doesn't make it any less rooted in historically accurate archery traditions. Yes some of his videos make wild claims. But turn off the audio and watch, and his skill is quite amazing.
You won't see him hunting down Buffalo or Elk with the bow he shoots, no. But Archery is more than just hunting.
Well said Armin! It must boil down to the less capable being threatened by the display of real archery skill. haha! Message to the haters out there : Instead why not work to become proficient with varied draw weight bows, and multiple styles of shooting then see what you think??. ...It's incredibly rewarding and fun! Archery in a whole should be supported all around, the rewards of an archery lifestyle are amazing...the negative comments below are ridiculous and cannot be from a true archer in my opinion. Myself and my family will be enjoying this movie! Thank you Lars for opening this up!
Yes, it's enjoyable. Especially as the film does not set out to represent an authentic Mediaeval England , and they do explain that their Robin converts to Eastern archery where such speed shooting was described (though how genuinely common it was I don't know). So there's no question that Lars is good at this type of archery, or that it is genuinely described in old texts. Some archers (including me) have had reservations (still not 'haters' though) because there were claims in the first video that this style is not only authentic but that it is the only authentic style, and things like stationary shooting at round targets, arrow on the left of the bow, back quiver are modern inventions or myths. Lars himself has rightly backed off from those claims since, but some fans still keep that nonsense alive.
No one has a problem with the archery. The story and the style is completely wrong for Robin Hood. Its frankly, cheap, dumb and offensive. Yes the Robin Hood film with Russell Crowe was bollocks too. lol
Of course I haven't seen the film, only some clips on TH-cam, so I don't want to be too definite, but I too wonder why it's called 'Robin Hood'? Of course the legend has developed over time, is always changing (for instance the idea of Robin Hood as a crusader is a quite recent addition), but surely the core of it is always a Mediaeval English forest-dwelling outlaw, fighting unjust authority. As is said on this clip it doesn't try to be historically authentic, it certainly doesn't look much like Mediaeval England, the costumes don't either, the archery (while skilful and dramatic) is inspired by a variety of Eastern archery rather than European, and it actually looks quite urban. Not desperately important, it still looks like it could be fun and quite exciting, just a thought.
I agree about the Russell Crowe film in a way, of fairly recent films I prefer the Patrick Bergin one (and the Errol Flynn for sheer style, and good archery, thanks to Howard Hill's contribution).
That's honestly the best behind-the-scenes of Lars' training and methods.
omg you do watched him. I watched your vids but didn't actually expect you to watch lars as well lol.
@@Prideace93 I saw a video of him making a review of Lars' archery. It was years ago though. Not sure if it's still there.
I really didn't expect to see this.
NUSensei dry fire on 7:39
@@blueslee1I think people might be overreacted to this. It's not a full, long draw and doesn't impart much energy. Target shooters routinely do this when setting up the bow to settle the string.
Respect to Taron for being willing to learn, instead of half-assing.
Well Lars is trick shooter (aka circus monkey) so its perfect for movie stuns and shit like that. But when it comes to real archery last advice I need will be from Lars.
@@01Gens Your comment reeks of jealousy lmao
@@01Gens Haha tell that to a historical archer before three arrows find the base of your skull lmao
@@danvella1104 You people really have no clue of archery do you :) sitting front the computer watching some guy doing few tricks and think this is what archery is :)
@@01Gens What makes you the expert hm? Do you main Hanzo Overwatch?
0:32 “and he started firing arrows at me”
Archers don't fire arrows, they shoot or loose them. Firing didn't start until the advent of guns.
meh, better than playing Russian roulette using a minigun
@@razgriss5882 Wth is wrong with people these days
@@di3yus459 don't ask me, I'm as clueless as you
@@razgriss5882 lmao
Some archers ask why not powerful bows in the movie??
Good question but archery in film sets natural limitations.
We recognized from the beginning that the actors will not be allowed to shoot powerful bows in
movie recording it is too dangerous !! and it's also not possible because movie recording consists of making the same movements again and again for hours.
For example. to stand very long with the bow pulled all the way, while the camera and actor moves around and at the same time the actors must remember to say their replies and everything else,
So filming can probably not be done with powerful bows.
Most actors trained with different strength bows and had different for film recordings
The strongest training bows were 80 pound longbows but all the others were less powerful
A war bow is about 80 -160 pounds. Should one be critical is everything less wrong!
A 30 pound is wrong but also a 60 pound is also wrong.
Should the actors have learned to use historical power bows, they would spend at least one year extra just on strength training
and yet they could not use it during movie recording.
Sincerely
Lars
I should think anyone who has shot a bow would realise why heavy bows aren't used, but certainly my issue with this video isn't that heavy historical bows aren't used, it's that the director tries to talk up the historical archery angle to sell his movie.
You have always been very honest about your shooting and what you do (which is very much appreciated and endearing), but I don't believe realistic draw weight bows could be shot in the manner seen in the movie, as fast as they do. It's one thing firing off an easy to draw 30lb bow, quite another to believe a 60-90lb bow (that would stand any chance of stopping armoured guards) could be shot twice while spinning in mid air.
However if you would like to make a video showing a heavy draw weight being shot very fast and penetrating different armoured targets in quick succession, I'd watch that over and over, I'd believe that would be more real than this movie make believe.
Just to be clear, what you personally do I find amazing feats of skill, this movie however feels a little cynical, I don't believe you have ever claimed to be an accomplished war archery.
Thanks for the suggestion it's a good idea !
I should show fast shooting with powerful bows and iron armor.
There will be a new series of new short videos coming after these about the Robin Hood movie, but short videos do not allow me to tell.
So maybe I should after the short videos, make a long video afterwards
Lars answers questions (and show some things)
Im glad they came to you for advice Lars, it makes sense from Watching most of your vids about the history of archery that you clearly were the man for the job. I can only aspire to be as good as you. Also on the comment above, i would be very interested in seeing how fast a heavy draw bow can be shot in your multiple fire skill. Great job.
When it comes to War Archery, look at this documentation of Korean Traditional Archery. It shows, that the original Korean War Bow was much bigger and stronger than the present Korean Traditional Bow. When they had to produce larger amounts of laminated horn bows in the past, they came out probably more rugged, bigger, bulkier, somewhat stronger and durable.
So, i am looking forward to see you making this video with heavy bow and armory.
This said, thank you for existing, Lars. You brought me to archery! (Kaya KTB, thumbring)
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How many months / years did they train for ?
Finally our Lars is getting some recognition
Joe H, and I suppose that's why you're here watching this video?
Ah, so you're just having a bad day and wanted to belittle people you see as lesser than yourself to try and make yourself feel more important.
Understandable. Have a nice day!
There, your ego is back to normal! You're welcome!
Joe H
I'm not sure whether to laugh at you or cry for you honestly, but you're being rude so I think for the time being I'll laugh.
so do you practice archery at all? lars is all about being "flashy" he is not historically acurate.
Robin Hood?
*Medieval John Wick*
Keanu❤️❤️
Technically correct on movie context, since Reeves also trained himself shooting really fast and accurate and a bit of CQC
Wtf
Lars Andersen? Modern Medieval John Wick.
John Wick?
Modern Robin Hood
Finally they started to collaborate with experts
3:29 - 4:14 Having used a longbow with the Mediterranean draw for years, I can't accurately express how grateful I am for seeing ya breaking down the details there, and here at 4:31 - 4:51
Now I've read pieces of that book Saracen Archery and use the Slavic draw all the time (been just less than a year now), just tearing my bullseye to pieces lol it's great. Finally learned faster/smoother shooting that I'll be grateful for, for a LOOOONG time
Good to see Lars getting the attention and respect he deserves. His commitment to deep research and training should be recognized and celebrated by all archers and historians. Thank you Lars for your hard work and bringing to the world.
Lars has been an inspiration to me and the guys for years. His earlier video was life and form changing. We built a 120 ft range inside of our factory where we only shoot traditional bows.
whoa, much respect Lars !!! Thats my dream :))
hi Adam
Adam Celadin is here! Wow!
You should be in this movie Adam ! You have the looks and extraordinary knife throwing skills .
Oh look it's the knife guy again
Which part was your dream?
I just saw Robin Hood last night, and while watching I thought "this is Lars Andersen's style!" So thrilled to know that you trained them. It was freaking amazing!
Wait, how did you see a movie that isn't out till November?
@@EricHamm You know, people on youtube, they just love making shit up. At least this one didn't claim "his dad" was an elite archer or whatever the fuck these people tend to invent to get attention and likes...
The hair of Lars in the final shot was almost more amazing than the archery.
Green Ninja Pro
Wow.. 😂
I was thinking the same thing
Wow I’m so incredibly proud of you Lars.. you took on the archery world and now you’re method recognised is historically correct, now you train actors for movies! You’re a legend, thank you for bringing us this information 🙌🏽
Soon as I seen the previews I was like ain't none of em real life good like my boy Lars. Now I see you trained the actors this might actually be a good movie then good work you getting recognized for ya craft in Hollywood
Literally the same thought I had haha
Yes, of course. His craft is only ever useful for Hollywood.
+SwordTune Who Are You To Judge?? Go And Sip Your Hot Chocolate My Good Sir.
@@maxplaysgamez-sharesgaming1756 Me, alone? I am not one to judge. As someone part of an entire community who know what they're talking about when it comes to historical arms and armour, that's different.
+So Hing Lun
Can't reply directly to your comment, looks like it was deleted or TH-cam fucked up, but I think this is where the comment was posted. To answer your question: HEMA. A community of historians and practitioners of historical martial arts.
To the people saying every midevil archer only shot 200+ yards, take a minute to think about what happened when the enemies got close? Did the archers run away? Just set their bows down and scream asking for a sword? No they used the bows at whatever range they needed to survive, being 5 or 100 yards away. Or maybe they stood there and just died to prove your point who knows?
nice, well explained. Should calm down the hard core Robin Hood fans :D
You should play in one of those movies someday, Armin! XD
You should have been in it Armin ;)
Yeah this actually made me want to watch the movie.
I am a hardcore Robin Hood fan, playing this character myself on medieval festivals - but I am real looking forward to watching this movie!!! Robin Hood is not only a person in history, he is a legend and the legend lives on.....
Armin if you say it's good, than I say it's good :)
After watching this I have more of an appreciation for the movie. I honestly didn't think they could be that good at archery. Mind is blown.
I feel so bad for Taron, like he trained so freaking hard for this role, and after all that, for some reason, people just hated the movie. That just sucks man. Well regardless, I loved the movie and thought he did an awesome job!!
So much effort went into learning archery for the film. Let's just hope it doesn't suck.
same but we know the archery wont be accurate due to Lars and his trick shooting.
@@ccleadge it is not trick shooting i seen the books myself they are real.
thats debatable, seeing as how he is self taught from "books". his techniques would not be appropriate for battle or hunting. which has been proven MANY times. the only people who seem to dissagree are those who dont practice archery, or dont care for expert archers opinions.
@@ccleadge that is quite a bit of assuming. For starters i do believe that this style of shooting can be practical but he has never really done that to that extent. Also it is not ment for hunting this type of style. It is ment for killing other men at close range.
@@ccleadge p.s. i do actually practice the bow, and i have tried lars style as well. To tell the truth it was quite hard lol.
Crazy how Otto Bathurst got this movie. He only has don't TV shows before. His passion speak volumes and I really hope this movie is financially successful so he can get more movies to direct.
Now that I know that you (Lars) are involved i’m going to buy a couple of tickets to go see that movie. Love your work
It turns me away from it, honestly.
The director is straight up telling you the truth , all robin hood history and movies and books have set a tone for robin hood. But this is the worlds best in archery involved so this is the best archery and robin hood movie ever made. Thank you Lars you made it real even the actors are now supper archers thanks to you. I saw the movie before I found out Lars was involved now I'm going to really appreciate watching it again
This channel is deadset the best channel I've ever subbed to. Never missed a video, and always excited to see one come up in my sub box
Hit the like when I saw him in the movie jumping forward and while falling doing a 180 and getting a shot off... EPIC, EPIC, EPIC, Mr. Anderson you are amazing. Thankyou for bringing real archery to the table!
"Together with the researcher Bede Dwyer (the person I know with the most comprehensive knowledge about archery) and Nick “Bigbowbrum” Birmingham, I got the opportunity to influence how archery was portrayed in the film."
If this proves to be successful, I would love to see it happening with other weapons as well. Especially longsword, sword and shield and axes of all kind. Historian analysts, both academic and decent youtubers (such as knight errant for example), working with the best reachable athletes of longsword (e.g. winners of the swordfish competition and the such) and making actors really good at fighting. That would mean a total new level of historical accuracy as well as much more believable battles.
The problem is that somehow a lot of it was lost especially medieval European swordfighting only little can be found which in my eyes is super sad.
This is one of the more heartwarming comment sections I have seen in awhile. Keep up the positivity! Even if the story is no good this should be a treat!
Happy for you Lars. You’re doing what you love and people recognized you for it.
I will definitely go see the hood movie. Regardless of any story, cinematography or costume design flaws; I’m sure I’ll enjoy watching the hard work put into training the actors and doing something real and different.
Cheers!
andersen is a champion archerand researcher, his mindful insights have given a new turn to our understanding of archery, i wish him great luck.
This is beyond amazing! I discovered your channel literally 10 minutes ago and then this video was recommended. I can't believe how much I underestimated that movie. This goes to show that nothing is what it really seems. Congratulations and respect for all those involved, especially for recognizing your talent, using actual research and historical references. The film director also deserves huge credit for participating in this. I am so glad to discover I was an idiot! Will rewatch the movie after I binge your channel :D Cheers!
You are the archer God Lars and no one else could ever come close to your magnificence.
its sad that the movie wasn't that great. I am for sure tho impressed with that stunts, that deserves something.
I agree it's way underrated. Ex. I'm a much better shot now 'cause this video, plus the movie, is how I was able to learn how to use the right side of my bow without a thumb ring/guard. I just use the Slavic as shown here (looking between the limb and the string for it---internal sighting---lets you see the arc it'll fly in and keep ur aim sharp) and have been able to get three arrows touching! Surprising at first how much variety using the right-hand side gives you
Omg, this is best possible advertisement for the archer movie possible.
When i first saw the Trailer of the movie, I knew Lars was involved ^^
I referred to your video a while back when the trailer came out, and I was showing my friends that there were differences between the way arrows were handled before and after Hood leaned how to shoot, sure enough you were actually involved. Can't wait to watch the film, and very glad you were part of it.
Finally Lars getting (well) paid and acknowledged for his expertise!!!
"I wanted archery to feel real" the funny thing is it's so good it doesn't look real to the average moviegoer, especially with so much CGI in Hollywood today.
5:44 - 5:53
5:57 - 6:02
and 8:29
Ok how badass is that? :D
Edit: I practice with the same finger hold typically with two or three arrows, my personal best would have to be an arrow per second, and I've only managed that speed shooting accurately a few times. I managed once to pincushion a Deer Park water bottle with three arrows in JUST less than three seconds, so I'll be forever grateful for this stuff being introduced.
THANK YOU LARS!
So much time and effort going into what is a subpar movie. Once the training is complete, there's only so much you can do.
the archery is dumb
"War of arrows" is an amazing archery action movie.
That is Korean archery. The source of "Instant Legolas"
Friggin' loved that movie. Fantastic action scenes, and a decent story, too.
Ah it's about time that Lars's speed archery style made it into a movie. Great job Lars! Hope to see more movie producers knock on your door!
I thought I recognized that technique in the trailers. I'm excited for the film.
Robin Hood: *never exists*
Everybody: Why isn't this a historically accurate representation of Robin Hood?!
I can't believe idiot like you actually exist,lol
Just saw the trailer and thought... hmm i recorgnise this style of shooting? Came here and whst do you know 😂 absolutely brilliant. Will be watching.
I feel like it's about time they did a Robin Hood film that goes this deep into the archery and uses methods of speed shooting that exist and isn't 100% CGI; Taron being trained to hit two targets in less than an second, etc. and all. It's thanks to THIS behind the scenes video (and the film), getting me started, that I can now shoot off the right side of the bow with the Slavic draw and gotten good at it.
7:37 NEVER dry fire your bow!
Why?
@@user-zg5jd2yd9n Because limbs are design for specific amount of stress, that you can put on it, and if you dry fire your bow, limbs don't give their energy to the arrow and all energy what your bow produce act on limbs and that can after few shots cause damage to them. If you want to know more about this topic watch NUsensei video about it, it is pretty good.
@@vojtadanda5932 Thanks for the knowledge, bro...
Modern fiberglass laminated bows can actually withstand being dry fired repeatedly , it isn't recommended though . All wood bows on the other hand can and do break when being dry fired
Приятно удивили. Думал, там была не настоящая стрельба, а спецэффекты, а оказалось, что вы мастера. Молодцы!
I Love This Accent That LarsAnderson has
Of course he’s Danish
I loooove the Robin Hood movie and now I see how much the actors train for it.
6:45 hes shooting his bow like an assault rifle
Lars, this is fucking awesome that you were part of this.
I am interested in the Saracene Bow Robin is using in this movie. Who built the bow and is this bow available somewhere?
Try this one th-cam.com/video/-X9b_atc27Y/w-d-xo.html
Very nice bows for the price www.tradinagyijak.hu/hun-ij.html
if interested in the real deal check out mead longbows, he's native american and his bows are all natural, historic, affordable and not plastic. i know he shoots in similar styles with the bows he makes, spoke to him a lot about it he just doesn't show it much becuase of the naysayers..but this archery is real, and there are alot out there that practice it. he can build you a bow to meet your needs. I love mine its the only one i use
The most expensive bow on the website comes out to about $140.00.
www.tradinagyijak.hu/szkita-ij.html
Sorry, but this all does not answer my question! I have a collection of high-quality longbows and horsebows from well known companies, but I am looking for THE bow, that was used in the movie. What company made it, and are these bows somewhere available?
i will finally be looking forward to a newer movie because of you thank you to everyone involved for not making totally unrealistic movies
Im Danish and when you hear Lars talk you Can really hear he is a dane
When someone is an expert, and looks like Bede, you can never call it a sport.
They should fire the costume artist, why are they dressed in biker gang leathers?
Sometimes the costume department is only executing the vision of the director or the production designer. In a movie its never smart to blame one person for a flaw since its always a collaborative piece of art. That said the costumes still look very cheap and cheesy.
I think they look great
In my experience in most of the Behind the Scenes-Videos dresses and props always look cheap. Take look at other historical Making-Of-Stuff or maybe "the Viking"-Series. Later in the movie with the correct lightning an colorcorrection its perfect. Plus especially this movie (as the director explain) is not a historical movie - except for the bow-shooting.
Abis, exactly, it's always the director/producer's fault for hiring a historical advisor, then keeping them on the side never asking anything or taking advice. They're just there to say in the credits "We had an advisor, see, it's right!", but Hollywood genuinely doesn't care.
mazaisvilijs because it fits the theme of the movie? They said the setting is not a historical setting, they just made the archery as accurate as possible
Lars Andersen, Legendary Master Archer! When he first appeared on TH-cam a lot of people (mainly archers, new and old) criticized and ridiculed him with such anger and contempt, but now they are all quiet. LMAO!!! Haters are gonna hate!
the subtitles had me dead lol
"can BUY 2 arrows a second"
6:46
edit: holy sh!t it's "can buy 2 hours a second" lol wtf
I like that randon "I can fire two arrows a second" 6:46.
Lars showed a lot of archery fans what was possible.How true or realistic does not really matter.If someone can hit say three targets with three arrows at once(trick shot),it is also possible(with training,practice etc>)to do it while walking,then running,on horseback etc.The inventor of gunpowder was not the best shot or the Wright brothers the best pilots.Only crazy people are crazy enough to think they can change the world.Much respect and admiration for showing us new moves.Now we must just practice.
Quite right, he performed new and entertaining trick shooting (trick is not a pejorative term, it's used for others doing similar things).
The question of 'realistic' only arises because, firstly, the director while saying that the film is not historically realistic (it certainly isn't) does claim some authenticity for the archery.
Also, of course, Lars in his first video claimed to be restoring historical war archery, he has backed off from those inaccurate claims rather since (to his credit), but some followers still repeat them, even to the foolish extent of saying that this is the only real, authentic, archery.
@@johnminnitt8101 I was thinking that Lars was restoring historical war archery as much(maybe not as much) as any other expert.My point being that even an "Archery Professor"can only give the facts he knows. Therefore he attempts to restore it,same as Lars.Everybody theorizes,and i sometimes wonder how much we know versus knowledge lost.For example i think the best archer in Genghis Khan army would beat our current world champion very easily.We so easily underestimate the skills our people once had
@@jasonbrand6256 You're right about our lack of knowledge in some areas, especially it's hard to judge how good (accurate) past archers were. I suppose the main people one can say are 'restoring war archery' are the warbow shooters (English Warbow Society eg), using the actual equipment and technique, also probably some of the horse archery people. As far as I can see though the main things that are distinctive (and entertaining and skillful) about Lars have little to do with historical war archery. He is very acrobatic, yet war archery was generally done on a horse or standing, not leaping about (I doubt that anyone could shoot properly a bow heavy enough to be useful in war while doing that|), he is good at hitting moving targets but at closer range that was probably usual in war, and he can shoot very very quickly, which seems to result in the bow being only part drawn when a very long draw was characteristic of most war archery in order to get maximum energy into the arrow for range and penetration.
It is what has been said many times, what he does is fine (apart from the recent 'William Tell' thing), the historical claims are much more dubious.
@@johnminnitt8101 I have to agree with you.My first instinct was to say you are biased towards the longbow(Horsebow fan myself)but I suppose it is the style with the most written records.Therefore also the most historically correct.I have read stories of mongol accuracy that simply seems ludicrous but the more I learn the less I know.Thanks for dropping some knowledge on me
@@jasonbrand6256 I suppose I am 'biased' to the longbow in the sense that that is what I know, what I have shot, made and studied. Not in the sense that I have any low opinion of other traditions. There may be people in China or Mongolia recreating real war archery (as the warbow people are in England, Wales, Canada etc), I would be interested to hear of them if so. (The 'Way of Archery' channel seems something similar in China, I must look at it more). I don't know that we have more sources for the longbow, considering the old manuals on Saracen, Chinese etc archery. I don't think we know how accurate the best longbow archers were either, there are unlikely stories here too.
A few weeks ago on social media I broke down almost exactly what y'all went over in this video! I've studied archery a lot, and was really impressed by the Robin Hood trailer and the things I noticed in it about his shooting. I thought they must have put in a lot of work to pull it off, and am really excited to see the film. Just wanted y'all to know that you have fans who noticed those kinds of things and really appreciate them!
OK, this film doesn't claim historical realism (it's more like comic books or gaming than the Middle Ages), but I think the director did claim some sort of authenticity for the archery.
So - Hood is a crusader (why is RH always a crusader nowadays?), presumably the 3rd crusade as that was the main one with English forces (and is the most popular film period for RH). The main battle of that crusade was Arsuf, but the Saracen archery there was pretty ineffective against western armour (mail and padded armour rather than plate at that date). A Saracen writer (Baha al-Din) described crusader infantry marching, unharmed, with up to 10 arrows sticking in their armour.
(Around the same period Giraldus describes arrows from Welsh elm bows effectively piercing English mail armour).
Yet in this film arrows from a (part-drawn) Saracen bow easily pierce plate armour.
Fine, it's not a realistic film, but that applies to the archery too - which doesn't mean it's not skilful and entertaining.
(This is not to criticise all Eastern/composite bow archery. If it had been Mongol or Manchu or Samurai archers at Arsuf maybe it would have been different, but that's not the scenario here).
Manchu warriors would have been legendary
@@isaiahjoseph8502 I assume you mean they would have done better, rather than been 'legendary' in the sense of exaggerated stories. I agree they would probably have had more chance of penetrating the crusaders' mail, that's because they were shooting heavy bows with heavy arrows and a very long draw - not much like the archery in this film.
My wife is Native American and is Comanche. I've read some history books on the Comanche's and there's testimony from Union army members and Texas Rangers and other reliable sources that Comanche's could fire arrows back to back to back to back to back in a rapid fire motion, the first arrow not yet hitting a target the size of an orange, while the last arrow was released, and all arrows would hit the target. They were phenomenal archers and were even more deadly because of their horseback riding skills. They made their bows from the Bois D'arc tree (aka Osage, aka Horse Apple), which is an extremely durable and long lasting wood. I would love to see a movie made that depicted the clash between the Comanches and the early American Texas Rangers - the only force to finally beat the Comanches, only because of two things: 1., to fight exactly like they did and 2., the first rapid fire hand gun, the original Colt Revolver.
This is really cool, Lars! Excited to check out the movie when it comes out it November!
The fact that you were a consultant on this film makes me really want to see it now
The Persian grip helped a lot with speed shooting
oh yeah so glad it's brought up this way; I was using it with LARP arrows today and managed to shoot an accurate shot per second
This looks like the game my brother and I use to play. One of us would stand in front of a net while the other about 20-25 feet out would take slap shots (hockey) at you. the game was, you had to bat the puck down or deflect it into the net and not get hit. If you jumped out of the way or missed, the person shoot got a point. If you blocked the shot with your stick or deflected it with your stick, you got a point. When we got to adults and could crank our shots over 85 mph - 90 mph, people thought it was insane how good we were at deflecting or batting down incoming shots. Yes, there were times, we tried to kill each other and put everything we had into those shots and drill it through the other brother.
My main concern is still butted mail instead of riveted.
Butted mail is rubbish, and historically they knew that which is why they didn't use it.
or u could use the mongol plate i cant remember the name but their armor was built as an arrow repellant
Edit:its lamellar my bad
The first time I saw the preview I recognized some of Lars' tricks, and thought he must be involved with it, can't wait for the movie!
This is so awesome! Unfortunate that the only "archery expert" in the crew info at IMDB is Stephen Ralphs. I'm looking forward to its premiere in theaters so see you in the credits. Cheers!
Was not interested at all in watching this movie... then I found out you are involved. Now I'm definitely watching it and I'm excited to do so.
Wow people who see this film are going to be REALLY disappointed when they turn up for their first day at an archery club.
Perhaps archery clubs need to change a little
Kelkschiz I know right? Fuck learning proper form and technique, hitting tiny targets at long distance, I want to half draw my bow and jump about shooting something 3feet in front of me, you know like they do in the olympics or how bow hunters do it.
Maybe Archery Clubs should do whats more inclusive and fun? Rather than being pretentious and spiteful.
mrTHEsoccerGeeK I mean if you want to shoot like this there’s always archery tag. The problem with trying to something like this at an archery club is that shooting like this is dangerous, and people who have never shot a bow before trying to imitate this is dangerous and poses a risk to both the people on the range and the property itself. You would be surprised how many people miss an 80 cm target face from 9 meters away on their first day while standing still and shooting at a still target.
mrTHEsoccerGeeK implying that learning a functional skill in a safe and internationally recognise way isn’t fun or inclusive? I know when I go to archery it’s always a massive chore and I hate it. One of the things I really hate is knowing I’m not going to take an arrow to the back of the head because someone is trying the spinny jump shot, how boring is it knowing your going to make it home after practice? I’m sorry if people’s health and safety is “pretentious” to you, when you aren’t half drawing a low poundage bow, they are really dangerous.
I really wasn’t in the mood for another Robin Hood film, but after seeing this I think I might have to watch it. I prefer Taron in this kind of roll, especially when he’s trained like an absolute boss.
Darn.😤 I had no idea Lars was involved and the actors were really shooting the bows.😱 So much stuff is fakey-fake CGI these days that to learn and see it was done practically, through training and acquired skill, has greatly heightened my interest in now seeing this film.👍 I wish I had known this when it was in theaters.😕 I would've definitely gone and seen it then.😉 I only saw 1 trailer during previews and I thought 🤔 it was gonna be a CGI fest of unrealistic proportions(yeah, yeah, I know this is trick-shot archery and not practical archery).🤗 Man I feel dumb.🤦🏻♂️ Now I gotta go watch this.🤷♂️
Chill with the emojis
Chris Aww c'mon, it's not that bad.🤷♂️🤣
Yes, I saw another RH film coming & thought "Great!", then saw the modern cotumes & dismissed it.
I liked the movie ! Plenty of cool archery scenes . Taron Egerton really did well to learn so quickly , talented fellow . Thanks for posting
When i saw a trailer for the new movie I told my wife the archery reminded me of Lars and then i saw this, he literally trained my him. The training really paid off!
The fact that you actually hit arrows with a staff
Incase zombie's are here ill find lars anderson as my partner
Being totally ignorant about medieval archery, I still find it logical that forest-dwelling outlaws in would NOT have been using War Longbows in the forest. That would have been like bringing a small cannon to a fast-draw gunfight. A certain way to lose the fight. Fast, nimble, shorter-range archery seems far more appropriate.
Nice man, that is awesome
Thank you, Lars, for your talented work!
Seeing the effort put into movies makes them all the more better
When I saw the trailer I thought "Wait, THE QUIVER IS ON THE HIPS!"
I pray that in the movie Robin will turn a arrow.
Historically accurate.....you don’t fire arrows, you loose or shoot them....jeeez
While this is pretty cool and makes me wanna check out the movie... they still talk about historical accuracy, yet I watched the trailer again and they're all wearing fancy modern jackets and stuff
I noticed onr scene with robin holding multiple arrows in hand while firing and wondered if Lars had helped with the film, the archery in it was so well done i often wondered how they couldve done it and im glad to see how it was achieved
But its soo unrealistic and dumb
@@Jow2002 he... Literally did it
Lol the movies not historically accurate.... Except for the over the top archery tricks, thats real
Correct! :D
@Penmanship Is Dead he is not english duh
Mister Turk Turkle hol up
@@ULTRAOutdoorsman so? It's not historically accurate in nothing except archery. Does it matter If there is a black guy teaching archery?
Penmanship Is Dead that setting did not look like england to me
First time I saw the trailer I thought the archery looked very similar to Lars' Arab archery. Now I know it is. Can't wait to see it.
where did you order that beautiful bow?
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When I saw the trailer I instantly thought about you Lars, this explains a lot about the movie! :) Can't wait to watch it! I hope this gives the recognition you deserve
Oliver Queen heard laughing in the far corner.
Congratulations, you have earned a place in movie history!
Unfortunately, the trailers I have seen seem to indicate this place will be located somewhere between "Gigli" and "The Last Airbender"
Lars, where do you buy you bows? I tried to search on the internet but it is kinda hard to find a reliable website. Could you share a link whit us?
Amazing video :)
capitanrex 3 Go to the website Grozer Archery.
Ty very much!
I would try toy's R'Us if you are looking for bows of this draw weight...
try internature bows, we've sold them for years and never got one back.
Enjoyed the movie :D I been binge watching robinhood ever since I found your channel yesterday XDDDD
Lars youre the best !!!
If the goal of this video is to make want to watch the movie, the goal has been achieved: I will definitely go to the cinema to watch the best archery applied into a fiction.
Well done Lars !
taron dry bowing killed my sould lmao
Well done to the effort and commitment to being at least able to do an action in a movie capably! I hate seeing an actor playing the piano when they clearly weren’t!! I can’t wait to see if the rest of the film lives up to the archery skill!
This is amazing. From the dedication to historical accuracy and practice to the skill showed behind these shots, it's just simply amazing. Just wow
When i was little, i never really liked movies, because a lot of the time, they felt fake, and i hated the actors for it, with all my 6 year old childhood hatred...
But in the last few years, after learning time and time again what kind of extreme effort actors put into their roles... Honestly, respect man.
Especially action movies, especially when played by borderline-suicidal actors like Tom Cruise, holy shit.
If you don't know some of the insane stunts Tom Cruise has done just for the sake of "fuck it, it'll look better", google them, because half of them pretty much weren't even stunts anymore.