What’s so frustrating is when you critique a doctrine in SDA but the person always defends their personal belief(which usually doesn’t align) instead of addressing the doctrine.
Start by addressing the doctrines from the church you worship from,or Post them everywhere online like the way seventh day Adventist's do it Stop mascrading
@@okwijames947You’re missing the point. Yes, it is good to be transparent. And no I wouldn't become a Presbytarian. But this channel’s purpose is to point out the errors of SDAsm and it’s cultish grasp on unsuspecting Christians in her. Myles is doing that well. And one doesn't have to agree with everything in his own religious views to see that.
@@okwijames947 this channel is not an apologetic channel for the presbyterian faith. Many that watch this channel don't fall into that bucket and it's fine. We are Protestant.
I was born into an Adventist family and God is leading me away from their divisive craziness. I can testify that most of their pastors are not empathetic to the members and exhibit arrogance and authority anytime they are questioned about anything. They've been taught really well how to bully people into silence. So sad but true.
@@Enockbeckbrown-hf6xx i have a KJV version of the Bible and your adulterated versions will not confuse me NIV, New living translations etc those are versions for critic's, so for get about leading me away because God laid the foundation in Genesis 2:1-3 and the promise of the Messiah in Genesis 3:15 so your gospel of Christ coming to clean pigs meat, nailing Sabbath on the cross, that Christ died to permit you sin in New testament is all invalid I am a seventh day Adventist's and that's all
I grew up being taught that the "catholic" trinity is pagan and false and the adventist trinity is the true biblical one. Also talked with adventists online that describe the trinity as 3 seperate brings.
@@answeringadventismyou who has nothing else to focus in life apart from criticizing SDAS has something real to point out , then I would rather join illuminati 😅😅
@@Bredrin90 you can't fight what God spoke in Genesis 2 1-3 and Jesus confirms it in Mark 2:27,28 that it's made for man THEN the group which fights conscience comes to say ohhhh men Paul changed it hahahahaha 😂😂😂 my conscience is clear and accurate I am only trying to fight into the critics context
Sda leaders know exactly what you said but they also know that all they have to do is make an argument agaisnt any point regardless of if it's pertaining to the points made or if it's completely off subject and or slandering the content maker. it doesn't matter if it's weak. All they need is some kind of response and they know that sda listeners will be satisfied with that.
@@truthingrace3594 this is unfortunately true. And I mentioned that in the full stream. That these “responses” are about keeping SDAs content and unquestioning, not about meaningfully engaging.
Adventists don’t know what Adventists believe. This is a fact. Coming from a former Adventist too, I can’t tell you how many Adventists I’ve tried to talk about what they believe and they have no clue what I’m talking about. Being nominal is killing them from even being educated on their errors. I thank God daily, for revealing the truth about Adventism to me.
"I thought I believed in the trinity, surprising to find out I don't actually believe in that" Welcome to the first step in your journey out of Adventism. THATS exactly the point, sir. You think you believe in the trinity but you have not been taught what the trinity is. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.
“As fundamental errors, we might class with this counterfeit Sabbath other errors which Protestants have brought away from the Catholic church, such as sprinkling for baptism, *the trinity,* the consciousness of the dead, and eternal life in misery.... can it be supposed that the church of Christ will carry along with her these errors till the judgment scenes burst upon the world? We think not.” -James White, Sep. 12 1854, Review & Herald, Vol. 6, No. 5, p. 36, Par. 8 “To assert that the sayings of the Son and his apostles are the commandments of the Father, *is as wide from the truth as the old Trinitarian absurdity that Jesus Christ is the very and eternal God.”* -James White, Aug. 5, 1852, Review & Herald, Vol. 3, No. 7, p. 52 Par. 42
@@kimartist The SDA pioneers did. The movement officially has pivoted away from the pioneers based on visions from Ellen White later in her life wherein they developed their own unique view called the "heavenly trio." It's not Trinitarianism. They like to use the word "Trinity," but it isn't the Trinity. It's three different beings that are united in a mission, they all have physical, tangible forms like you and I (so three of those) and their "unity in love" is what makes them one "god."
It always throws me seeing Sadventist quotes by "James White", since I typically associate the name with the modern "Reformed Baptist" who is known for doing a lot of debates. Same name, very different guy!
Myles is doing a great job. God bless your ministry and life. Watching from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 . I share a lot of your TH-cam in Facebook page especially to SDA group. Great Watching.
Tomorrow is October 22, 2024, 180 years after the “Great Disappointment”. They came up with the face saving idea of the “Investigative Judgement” to explain the failed prophecy of the second coming on October 22, 1844. Have a VegeLink and celebrate.
@@AndyBriggman777 right😎 in 180 years God hasn’t been able to accomplish (reviewing the lives of people) what a simple computer could today in a very short time.
So a cult is defined by a group of people following a man made religion with usually a human leader at the head dictating to the group. Do you know who is the biggest cult on the planet? Its the Roman Catholic church. Do you accept sunday worship, a man made tradition that the RCC claims is their invention, in place of Gods 4th commandment? then you are following a man made tradition and a follower of that cult indirectly, every single doctrine of the SDA church is founded on scripture alone, all 28 fundamentals 🙂
Keep holding their feet to the Fire Myles! The ping pong positioning of Adventism drives me nuts. They jump around erratically to radically different positions and radically different ways of marketing those positions to the public, using almost Neuolinguistic Programming methods to choose the right buzzwards to gain as much acceptance to whatever Christian or Christian group they happen to be talking to. They can be very charming and seemingly open minded when suits their purposes, but Lord help you when you end up the wrong side of Sabbath Judaizing.
It's gaslighting ("These aren't the droids you're looking for") + NLP/redefining/"deconstructing" words ("Truth is whatever we say it is & is subject to change") + restricting/dumbing down language ("1984's" Newspeak).
On the 22/10/22 I heard a pastor from Dalby or Oakey qld Australia saying at the Springwood SDA church in Brisbane saying that the difference between them and other denominations is that they believe in three God Persons united in one goal. Paraphrased cause they took the video down and I can't quote verbatim but that is what they meant. Also he said that if anyone comes up with a different interruption of scripture to go to a pastor or elder to find out what it means. 'Good Grief' The pastor was someone prominent I believe in the Australian SDA circle, so not some Joe Smoe.
I wonder if that group of Sadventists would do rebuttals against a channel that focused on the false teachings of the Branch Davidians. David Koresh started out Sadventist, so if these guys were consistent they would feel the need to defend themselves against criticism directed at Koresh...
this is simple, yet made complicated. Clearly these guys have enough time to sit and criticise your videos. Why not just come onto your channel and set the record straight?
@@chesswith_luthomfazwe or on another neutral platform for that matter. They don’t want pressed on the hard questions so it’s easier to try and do drive by engagement to keep SDAs from listening. They know most Adventists don’t think for themselves and will see them “respond” and that will be good enough.
people be sure and hit the( like) on the video ...he is actually showing that they don't.. have the Jesus of the Bible).. by their own confession of faith.. which is not Faith ,at all. that really is the major topic ..and everything that creates them.. he went right to the core of it ..that's what we all should be doing ..showing they do not have Jesus of the Bible!
Sanctification does not function in the history of the SDA’s movement. Sanctification is individual and immediate. It is a waist of time to engage this panel. They are not spirit led Christians. Defending is historically done. There is no sanctification in their history. Perpetual wrangling is sin. Stop it.
Yes, laughing is bad. Shame on me. It’s amazing how some of you are apparently able to deduce things like peoples hearts. All from a thumbnail. Incredible
@@answeringadventism come on bro, lets grow up a little. Laughing at others because you disagree with them? Is this a sport for you? Did Jesus laugh at those that opposed Him?
@@ericfolks1503 He called them things like "whited sepulchers" and "a brood of vipers". He also made a whip out of cords, used it to clear the temple courts and flipped tables...
@@ericfolks1503 eric, this is rich coming from someone whining and crying because of a picture of someone laughing. Grow up? Yeah, I’d say. Grow up, dude. You just tried to assess the heart of a total stranger based on a picture of them laughing. The Bible tells you not to judge based on appearances. You don’t know my heart. Take your own advice and don’t try and lecture us on Jesus and the Bible when you can’t even follow his most basic commands (John 7:24) But this is what you guys do. You ignore what’s said to cry about other things because you can’t stand having your beliefs critically examined.
Was Jesus laughing as He did and said those things? No. Jesus also will say this to people at the end who professed a belief in Him but were actually lawless people… “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’” Matthew 7:23 NKJV And Jesus will not be laughing as He says those words,
Anyone can make that claim about any church. You provide no evidence to support your assertion. Assertions - Evidence = Empty Words! As evidence for my own claim... "The only true church in this world is the Roman Catholic Church - I am proud of being a Roman Catholic!" "The only true church in this world is the Eastern Orthodox Church - I am proud of being Eastern Orthodox!" "The only true church in this world is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- I am proud of being a Latter-Day Saint!" "The only true church in this world is the Watchtower Society - I am proud of being a Jehovah's Witness!!" "The only true church in this world is the Presbyterian Church - I am proud of being a Presbyterian!" "The only true church in this world is the United Methodist Church - I am proud of being United Methodist!" "The only true church in this world is the Reformed Baptist Church - I am proud of being Reformed Baptist!" "The only true church in this world is the Free Will Baptist Church - I am proud of being Free Will Baptist!" "The only true church in this world is the Primitive Baptist Church - I am proud of being Primitive Baptist!!" All these claims have just as much support for them. Can you prove they are wrong and you are right? Where's the beef?
@@DamonNomad82 I don't have to prove anything dear. In this information age, ALL the evidence we need is there for honest seekers of truth to see. Beware of keeping yourself blind-something that will eventually prove to be disastrous for you!
@@Enockbeckbrown-hf6xx Yet more assertions without evidence on your part, thus more empty words. You ought to listen to your own warning, as the false beliefs you are following are leading you down the path to destruction.
u just play part of it and plenty comment .go and play the whole clip and refute it and let's see😂and let's check if they are really saying they don't believe in trinity.mercy
You have gone over your head. You are sure of things you were initiated to believe but are wrong. 1) Orthodoxy is an impostor religion. 2) Creeds have no authority over anyone. God's truth in Scripture does. 3) Sola Scripture and the Holy Spirit are the only Factors when it comes to Church doctrine. 4) The more you deny Sola Scripture, the more it will deny you and you will be kept in the impostor's darkness and doing harm to the Church through this channel. 5) The Trinity as a doctrine does not determine someone's salvation. The Trinity is a perspective one can come to after very much study and understanding. God never named Himself a Trinity and that is not a coincidence; as much as you would like to think it is, its not. He wanted us to glance at the mystery and marvel but not make it a doctrine to determine who is His and who is not. 6) SDA are deceived eve on huge issues, but so are catholics, orthodox, and Protestants. At least most SDA and Protestants are saved and have the Spirit. You are on the wrong path. I am Greek and I was a Greek Orthodox. God saved me, and I have an apologetic website where among other things I debate Greek orthodox believers that are not able to do anything against the truth of Scripture,
SDAS's aside, the topic of the nature of God is and will always be, difficult for mere mortals to comprehend. Yes, we can try and come up with models based on scripture, but the truths of his nature will always pose a problem. Jeshua stated that he and the Father are one. Good enough for me.
Very true. It just frustrates me that so much effort is put into things like this. Why go around preaching salvation by everything else, except by the words and actions of Jeshua
I am an Adventist, AND INDIVIDUALLY, I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, my studies (i study the bible not history but i use history to see why others believe what others do). Godhead (Elohim) is one, i dont call them gods, but Jesus is God, and The FAHTER is God and the Holy Spirit is God but they have different personalities and are different persons but God (Elohim) is one. In authority God the Father is greater and i have concluded Jesus is greater than the Holy Spirit because of the Jesus Christ said so. And finally, just because a lot of people believe it doesnt make it right . We may use the same language,but we do not define them the same, and we may have the same targets but we believe the different forms. And this i believe, for many of us who have gotten such lights may have a lot to answer to God, this is why i study alone, i have never trusted my salvation in hands of man theology and understanding and majority of acdeptance. The road to heaven is narrow. Not the majority rule in Christianity. Churches will argue over and over,, Adventist has non-trinitarian and trinitarians, Christianity have trinity in so many forms. There is a lot of confusion. But with the Bible, i wont have confusion in my self whike watching Many people argue and want to be right.
@@answeringadventism you mean me believing that Jesus is not the Father,nor the Holy Spirit but they constitute the the Godhead but with different levels of Authority is called mornachianism?.
True Historic Seventh-day Adventism is not Trinitarian. It is Non-Trinitarian. That is why there is a huge movement of Non-Trinitarian SDAs. The bottom line is, Ellen White, James White and all the Pioneers were not Trinitarian. And the Trinity doctrine is clearly not biblical. It is a false teaching. This does not deny the divinity of Christ as many think. In fact, the Non-Trinitarian understanding of God UPHOLDS the Divinity of Christ even more firmly than the Trinity does.
@@VibrantMarcos right, you guys are a divided mess of confusion. Babylon based on your own definition. The non-trinitarian understanding of God isn’t even real. It’s an idol. “Clearly not biblical” Says you. This is a nice assertion but based on the other remedial errors in your comment, it’s obvious why you are off on this as well.
@@answeringadventism being divided is not a good reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Remember Israel? They became divided and wondered after false gods. Even some kings sacrificing their own children unto gods. Does that remove the original oracles committed to Israel? Does the original truths deposited to them to disperse to the world? Even Ellen White herself history will repeat itself within Adventism. The SDA Conference structure is in deep apostasy, but Ellen White herself said there will be a true remnant of Adventists who will be “little known to the Catholics.” Is not the structural system well known to the Catholics? Most certainly. God is the Father of Christ, and Christ is the Son of God. Not based on some eternal perpetual generation as Catholicism teaches, but a real divine Son was begotten or born from himself. Once from eternity. His goings forth (origins) are from everlasting. (Micah 5:2). That is, it cannot be calculated, and happened before anything was created, before any time could be measured. And the third person of the Godhead is the very divine life of Christ, spiritually manifested. That’s why the Bible and SoP say the Holy Spirit is “breathed”. You don’t go “breathing” another individual out of yourself. Catholics see a constant proceeding of a third being. Which is ridiculous. We must allow inspiration to explain inspiration on who the third person of the Godhead is. Christ had two divine natures. Human and divine. The third person of the Godhead is the divine nature of Christ, spiritually manifested-the unseen personality of Christ. The Bible supports this. There are endless texts to support this historic truth.
5:47 This thinking is why a lot of so-called Protestants oppressed Christ, as Ellen G. White said, lol. Creeds have said things unbiblical that they've claimed were infallible: Idol Worship, Sunday Law, Unclean foods, and Blasphemy. You wouldn't know what is "God Breathed" unless you're a prophet. The Bible and the Bible alone is our way to know what's God-breathed, not the traditions of the creeds/men.
@@1stMikeWhite irrelevant to the point being made. But expected from most Adventists at this point. I think some of you are immune to paying attention. You guys can’t think outside of your fairytale.
@ Claiming infallibility yet not knowing the truth is what lead to hating Jesus. He said it himself that the Jews chose to follow their own traditions. Mark 7:7. Jesus said it’ll happen again in the future; “If the world hated you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you” “I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world” John 15 & 17 It’s the same message Ellen G White is referring to, and that same spirit of persecution lives today even in the Protestantism.
@@1stMikeWhite literally no one is persecuting Adventists. You live in a daydream if you think this. I’ll never understand why some of you ramble about things completely irrelevant to what’s in focus. Aside from the fact that you’re brainwashed into a cultic way of thinking. No one cares what Ellen white said.
@@answeringadventism Well you should know about the dark ages already. At least some of it right? Yes, the majority of Americans enjoy religious liberty, but think of it like this; at what point does a lamb not fear a wolf? unless the wolf disguises himself. A child of God should be aware of this truth. You understand this is common sense, and it's Biblical. If God taught us to be ready for persecution and that we'll be hated, if you don't see that then you're the one doing it. Mathew 5:10-12
Jesus' words are taught to this New Earth (in Christ) by Jesus ALONE in the Holy Ghost and NOT by men anymore as it was in the Old Testament. When we stop all bible bashings/arguements and faithfully think while Jesus himself: OUR ONLY GOD and FATHER in heaven TEACH us as he did his disciples, he promised the Holy Ghost would BRING to our memories ALL the words that He himself had spoken. Men are men and as it is: 🤔they rib the scriptures in pieces and OH what a mess! All are still confused and so blinded as they daily preach adding to and taking from the WORD and so adding the plagues/curses upon their own heads never to be ONE as Jesus wills to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Like his disciples; we had and have been warned to beware of FALSE christs etc., who would come in his name ....😮What name? Christians?😢 It is time to heed the WARNINGS and ALL the words that were spoken by the mouth of our Saviour Jesus Christ the Son and God INCARNATE who ROSE and now has been REIGNING forever as our ONLY God and Father in the new Jerusalem in the new heaven and is with men in the new Jerusalem on this new earth in Christ 👉UNSEEN in us in the Holy Ghost never to be seen in the flesh again. Why? Because Jesus said that the WORK he came to earth to do is proof that he is indeed the Only God of heaven and earth and that ONLY work he came to do is "FINISHED" on the cross and is "DONE" at the END of his Apostles commission in the year of the Lord 70 A.D. Read Revelation 21.❤❤❤
My advice to u the bible didn't say go and critizes people and if they believe u baptize them no .just pray and go with the word for the spirit is capable of doing it on work.the very thing u critizes you dont have time to teach
Margaret: Read Galatians. Would you have objected to Paul writing an entire epistle to point out a false gospel? Sometimes error must be constantly rebuffed so people won’t fall to deceptions like SDAsm. I wish there had been people like Myles around me when I was young in SDAsm. I wasted over three decades in the cultish wasteland of SDAsm! And the LORD brought me out without needing people like Myles. But Myles affirm what any who have left SDAsm know.
@@Bredrin90 I won't object it bro it's our duty as christains to correct, rebuke, rebuild and put things in place and through this we ourselves are growing.I like what Myles does to correct but is he ready to grow through this .I have being noticing something let's use this clip I watched it 3 days before seeing his respond and actually this video they made it clear the church as whole believe in Trinity but Myles cut the clip somewhere and and made a comment that if you didn't watch the first clip u will think otherwise
“Ye shall know them by their fruits”. Can anyone really imagine Jesus or any of the apostles acting like snickering clowns when they rebuke falsehood? And what is the great commission of Jesus? To preach the gospel of the kingdom, not to attempt prove everyone else wrong. The spirit and mission of this channel is totally contrary to the spirit of Jesus and His commission.
The same Jesus that told the disciples to shake off the dust off their feet when people rejected the gospel? The same Jesus that called the Pharisees a brood of vipers? The same Jesus that made a whip to cast people out of the Temple for desecrating it? That Jesus???
False. The Bible is the only INFALLIBLE authority. But the Bible says the church has a level of authority. So your argument falls apart even if we dismiss the creeds. Which is why biblicism (Bible is the only authority outright) is a self refuting view.
So why does the Bible tell me that "the Church is the Pillar and Ground of truth" (1 Tim 3:15), why does the bible tell me to "hold fast to the TRADITIONS taught by WORD or epistle" (1 Thes 2:15) and why does Jesus tell his apostles that he's given them authority over His Church (Matt 16:18-19). But im assuming you believe that the "Church" has been corrupted, so im happy to discuss that too
@@answeringadventismI will disagree the Council is also Infallible because in Acts 15, it’s the Council that Bind the church on doctrine.. The Orthodox Church has the Bible as Primary Authority and Tradition second in Authority.
I'm very sorry for those people, who actually watches and believes the distorted views put forward by this man. Answering adventism, was invented and pushed forward, by people who were possessed by demons... May God help them. U see, adventism is far more significant than just what's obvious to the natural eyes. The truth, will be found by honest seekers. May God continue to bless the SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH, despite the oppositions. Respect
@@narryhudson74 and we fell sorry for people like you who have been deceived and given over to Satan for the destruction of your soul. May God have mercy on you before it’s too late. All your gnostic “Adventism is far more significant than just what’s obvious to the natural eyes” won’t save your soul.
If one wants to understand Myles, it may be helpful to do this: every time he says "Christian" insert the word "Catholic" because he thinks the Creeds have authority. Even though he correctly says they're not canon. He says SDAs are "out of sync with 'Christian Orthodoxy'" by which he means Catholic Orthodoxy - the Nicene Creed. Both Myles and SDAs are out of sync with Biblical Orthodoxy - if one defines orthodox as adhering to the accepted faith of Jesus and the Apostles as opposed to the so-called early church "fathers" ( responsible for the Creeds). Myles is as blind a leader as EGW and the bible tells us what happens when the blind lead the blind.
@@answeringadventism Wow real mature and not lazy reply 🙄🤣 2 Tim 3:16 says scripture is profitable for doctrine. John 17:17 says God's word is truth. The bible has God's authority. The ecumenical creeds only have man's authority - papal authority . Rome's protesting daughters adhere to a majority of Catholic doctrine. They are "controlled opposition." History attests to the fact that people who seek to obey scripture, when it contradicts the edicts of Rome, have been treated very harshly, to put it mildly. I understand why Myles left adventism. Its mostly a cult based on the person of Ellen G White. But to leap from that frying pan into the fire of Roman Catholicism (even if one thinks they're protestant) is NOT returning to God and scripture. Pray that, as Rome tightens its grip on world religion, people in them all will turn to scripture to learn and live God's true way through biblical doctrine and not the tradition and commandments of men. Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2 Tim 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
@cindiloowhoo1166 Hi Cindi. I believe the bible teaches the church of God, or "ekklēsia of theos" in the Greek language, is Jesus Christ and all those in whom His Holy Spirit dwells no matter which, if any, kind of the thousands of incorporated organizations, denominations, or other groups people have named that one may associate themselves with. I believe those people drawn or called by God will have an unusual thirst to discover and follow the teachings or doctrine revealed in the pages of the bible - as opposed to those who want to merely appear righteous with no desire for obedience. Perhaps to "fit in" or gain some social, political or employment advantage or to be in a "club" etc. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. One cannot get through the first few books in the bible without learning about God's commandments and laws that bring blessings to those who obey them. God gave mankind appointed times, or moedim in Hebrew, called feasts in English that include the weekly sabbath as well as seven annual sabbaths. Each appointment has prophetic significance and pictures steps in God's redemptive plan for mankind. They're also memorials of events in that plan from creation through to the new heavens and earth. I know that's a long answer. The short answer is the church of God and any manmade organization that teaches and follows God's laws, commandments and appointed times. I have learned from many denominations and have fellowshipped with several. Even Catholic and SDA have some biblical teachings but their unbiblical doctrines far outweigh those grounded in scripture. The reason is simple. They put the writings of men and women who did not contribute to biblical canon on or above the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. The "bible" was completed by the apostle John by the end of the first century. If one is looking for a congregation that stick most closely to the bible here is a good place to start. These too will have some error as all are human. churchofgodnetwork.org/congregation-map/
What’s so frustrating is when you critique a doctrine in SDA but the person always defends their personal belief(which usually doesn’t align) instead of addressing the doctrine.
@@BexD3090 never fails and becomes insufferable
☝️🙄 That's it in a nutshell.
AKA: intellectual dishonesty for some, intellectual inability for the rest (Dunning Kruger effect).
Start by addressing the doctrines from the church you worship from,or Post them everywhere online like the way seventh day Adventist's do it Stop mascrading
@@okwijames947You’re missing the point. Yes, it is good to be transparent. And no I wouldn't become a Presbytarian. But this channel’s purpose is to point out the errors of SDAsm and it’s cultish grasp on unsuspecting Christians in her. Myles is doing that well. And one doesn't have to agree with everything in his own religious views to see that.
@@okwijames947 this channel is not an apologetic channel for the presbyterian faith. Many that watch this channel don't fall into that bucket and it's fine. We are Protestant.
I was born into an Adventist family and God is leading me away from their divisive craziness. I can testify that most of their pastors are not empathetic to the members and exhibit arrogance and authority anytime they are questioned about anything. They've been taught really well how to bully people into silence. So sad but true.
Satan is leading you away slowly and we thank God for that because you were not part of us😅
It's amazing how childish you are. @@okwijames947
The Devil is leading you away from Adventism and you are praising Satan and his apostates!
@@Enockbeckbrown-hf6xx i have a KJV version of the Bible and your adulterated versions will not confuse me NIV, New living translations etc those are versions for critic's, so for get about leading me away because God laid the foundation in Genesis 2:1-3 and the promise of the Messiah in Genesis 3:15 so your gospel of Christ coming to clean pigs meat, nailing Sabbath on the cross, that Christ died to permit you sin in New testament is all invalid I am a seventh day Adventist's and that's all
@@okwijames947 I am a SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST and will stay an Adventist to my last breath.
I grew up being taught that the "catholic" trinity is pagan and false and the adventist trinity is the true biblical one. Also talked with adventists online that describe the trinity as 3 seperate brings.
@@SolaScriptura21 yes-they comment here all the time saying God is three beings. Their website said as much until I pointed it out.
@@answeringadventismyou who has nothing else to focus in life apart from criticizing SDAS has something real to point out , then I would rather join illuminati 😅😅
@@okwijames947Family, stop fighting your conscience, lest you fight against the Holy Spirit instead of embracing truth (see John 16:13).
@@Bredrin90 you can't fight what God spoke in Genesis 2 1-3 and Jesus confirms it in Mark 2:27,28 that it's made for man THEN the group which fights conscience comes to say ohhhh men Paul changed it hahahahaha 😂😂😂 my conscience is clear and accurate I am only trying to fight into the critics context
The Catholic trinity also composed of the pope calling himself equal to God…
I just left the adventist because of the hypocrisy and the fear and legalism. But now im learning from this myles and thanks for opening my eyes
The same dude adventist defence league exposed lies? Okay😂
@@SkrttWesside24 are you sure your responding to the right person
@@mattmc9812 yes you
@@SkrttWesside24yeah I'm sure they really exposed him objectively 😏😏😏😏
Sda leaders know exactly what you said but they also know that all they have to do is make an argument agaisnt any point regardless of if it's pertaining to the points made or if it's completely off subject and or slandering the content maker. it doesn't matter if it's weak. All they need is some kind of response and they know that sda listeners will be satisfied with that.
@@truthingrace3594 this is unfortunately true. And I mentioned that in the full stream. That these “responses” are about keeping SDAs content and unquestioning, not about meaningfully engaging.
Adventists don’t know what Adventists believe. This is a fact. Coming from a former Adventist too, I can’t tell you how many Adventists I’ve tried to talk about what they believe and they have no clue what I’m talking about.
Being nominal is killing them from even being educated on their errors.
I thank God daily, for revealing the truth about Adventism to me.
I know what I believe.
@@theministryoflight5462 are you an Adventist my friend?
Yes I am.
@@theministryoflight5462 ok, who changed the day of worship from Saturday sabbath to Sunday Lord’s day?
@@kneeltojesus8600good one
"I thought I believed in the trinity, surprising to find out I don't actually believe in that"
Welcome to the first step in your journey out of Adventism.
THATS exactly the point, sir.
You think you believe in the trinity but you have not been taught what the trinity is.
Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.
@@bbsvchic right-he said that rhetorically and sarcastically yet its actually true.
Accidentally/inadvertently projecting truth is a hallmark of SDAism I've discovered...
“As fundamental errors, we might class with this counterfeit Sabbath other errors which Protestants have brought away from the Catholic church, such as sprinkling for baptism, *the trinity,* the consciousness of the dead, and eternal life in misery.... can it be supposed that the church of Christ will carry along with her these errors till the judgment scenes burst upon the world? We think not.”
-James White, Sep. 12 1854, Review & Herald, Vol. 6, No. 5, p. 36, Par. 8
“To assert that the sayings of the Son and his apostles are the commandments of the Father, *is as wide from the truth as the old Trinitarian absurdity that Jesus Christ is the very and eternal God.”*
-James White, Aug. 5, 1852, Review & Herald, Vol. 3, No. 7, p. 52 Par. 42
So they outright reject the Trinity? 🤔
Sounds like modern Adventists disagree with their founders then.
@@kimartist The SDA pioneers did. The movement officially has pivoted away from the pioneers based on visions from Ellen White later in her life wherein they developed their own unique view called the "heavenly trio." It's not Trinitarianism. They like to use the word "Trinity," but it isn't the Trinity. It's three different beings that are united in a mission, they all have physical, tangible forms like you and I (so three of those) and their "unity in love" is what makes them one "god."
@@answeringadventismso the Same as Mormons
It always throws me seeing Sadventist quotes by "James White", since I typically associate the name with the modern "Reformed Baptist" who is known for doing a lot of debates. Same name, very different guy!
Myles is doing a great job. God bless your ministry and life. Watching from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 . I share a lot of your TH-cam in Facebook page especially to SDA group. Great Watching.
Tomorrow is October 22, 2024, 180 years after the “Great Disappointment”. They came up with the face saving idea of the “Investigative Judgement” to explain the failed prophecy of the second coming on October 22, 1844.
Have a VegeLink and celebrate.
I'd prefer to celebrate with actual food, not a poor imitation made of what food eats! Maybe some bacon...
That would be the Millerite’s btw
@@AndyBriggman7771844, Millerites, correct. Investigative Judgement, SDA face saving, unbiblical doctrine.
@@livehealthyfinishstrong Investigative judgement makes total sense
@@AndyBriggman777 right😎 in 180 years God hasn’t been able to accomplish (reviewing the lives of people) what a simple computer could today in a very short time.
SDA scholars instead of trying to defend their theology they should correct it and throw out EGW
However they want to defend their beliefs, bottom line, they are a cult.
Not a cult. All religion could be termed a cult.
So a cult is defined by a group of people following a man made religion with usually a human leader at the head dictating to the group. Do you know who is the biggest cult on the planet? Its the Roman Catholic church. Do you accept sunday worship, a man made tradition that the RCC claims is their invention, in place of Gods 4th commandment? then you are following a man made tradition and a follower of that cult indirectly,
every single doctrine of the SDA church is founded on scripture alone, all 28 fundamentals 🙂
Do you follow tradition above the Bible? If so you belong to a cult
@@ericfolks1503I.E. Catholic Church….
They celebrate tradition
I love being in this cult ❤
Keep holding their feet to the Fire Myles! The ping pong positioning of Adventism drives me nuts. They jump around erratically to radically different positions and radically different ways of marketing those positions to the public, using almost Neuolinguistic Programming methods to choose the right buzzwards to gain as much acceptance to whatever Christian or Christian group they happen to be talking to. They can be very charming and seemingly open minded when suits their purposes, but Lord help you when you end up the wrong side of Sabbath Judaizing.
It's gaslighting ("These aren't the droids you're looking for") + NLP/redefining/"deconstructing" words ("Truth is whatever we say it is & is subject to change") + restricting/dumbing down language ("1984's" Newspeak).
On the 22/10/22 I heard a pastor from Dalby or Oakey qld Australia saying at the Springwood SDA church in Brisbane saying that the difference between them and other denominations is that they believe in three God Persons united in one goal. Paraphrased cause they took the video down and I can't quote verbatim but that is what they meant. Also he said that if anyone comes up with a different interruption of scripture to go to a pastor or elder to find out what it means. 'Good Grief'
The pastor was someone prominent I believe in the Australian SDA circle, so not some Joe Smoe.
@@RosalieScott-du5jn this is what they always do. They downplay this serious reality and claim those types are “fringe” fanatics.
It is!!! You do not, have you read EGW!!!
You guys are funny!!!
These 4 guys are having a hurricane party, and that's about it.
I wonder if that group of Sadventists would do rebuttals against a channel that focused on the false teachings of the Branch Davidians. David Koresh started out Sadventist, so if these guys were consistent they would feel the need to defend themselves against criticism directed at Koresh...
this is simple, yet made complicated. Clearly these guys have enough time to sit and criticise your videos. Why not just come onto your channel and set the record straight?
@@chesswith_luthomfazwe or on another neutral platform for that matter. They don’t want pressed on the hard questions so it’s easier to try and do drive by engagement to keep SDAs from listening. They know most Adventists don’t think for themselves and will see them “respond” and that will be good enough.
@@answeringadventism Yes AKA "damage control" & "controlling the narrative."
people be sure and hit the( like) on the video ...he is actually showing that they don't.. have the Jesus of the Bible).. by their own confession of faith.. which is not Faith ,at all. that really is the major topic ..and everything that creates them.. he went right to the core of it ..that's what we all should be doing ..showing they do not have Jesus of the Bible!
Taking from a slim shady would the real SDA please stand up
I love how you have pope hat on the Ellen g white lol
Did you guys knew EGW said that?
Sanctification does not function in the history of the SDA’s movement. Sanctification is individual and immediate.
It is a waist of time to engage this panel. They are not spirit led Christians. Defending is historically done. There is no sanctification in their history. Perpetual wrangling is sin. Stop it.
Myles, the way you put a picture of yourself laughing on the front of your video says a lot about your intentions and spiritual maturity
Yes, laughing is bad. Shame on me. It’s amazing how some of you are apparently able to deduce things like peoples hearts. All from a thumbnail. Incredible
@@answeringadventism come on bro, lets grow up a little. Laughing at others because you disagree with them? Is this a sport for you? Did Jesus laugh at those that opposed Him?
@@ericfolks1503 He called them things like "whited sepulchers" and "a brood of vipers". He also made a whip out of cords, used it to clear the temple courts and flipped tables...
@@ericfolks1503 eric, this is rich coming from someone whining and crying because of a picture of someone laughing. Grow up? Yeah, I’d say. Grow up, dude.
You just tried to assess the heart of a total stranger based on a picture of them laughing. The Bible tells you not to judge based on appearances. You don’t know my heart. Take your own advice and don’t try and lecture us on Jesus and the Bible when you can’t even follow his most basic commands (John 7:24)
But this is what you guys do. You ignore what’s said to cry about other things because you can’t stand having your beliefs critically examined.
Was Jesus laughing as He did and said those things? No.
Jesus also will say this to people at the end who professed a belief in Him but were actually lawless people…
“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’”
Matthew 7:23 NKJV
And Jesus will not be laughing as He says those words,
Pope Ellen lol
Ellie's visceral hatred of Catholicism fascinates me ~~~
Sure! The SDA church is DIFFERENT! We can't have the same definition and be different!
SDA "scholars" can flop 99 out of 100 but it has no bearing on my relationship with the Godhead.
THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH IN THIS WORLD IS THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH- I AM PROUD OF BEING AN ADVENTIST
Anyone can make that claim about any church. You provide no evidence to support your assertion. Assertions - Evidence = Empty Words!
As evidence for my own claim...
"The only true church in this world is the Roman Catholic Church - I am proud of being a Roman Catholic!"
"The only true church in this world is the Eastern Orthodox Church - I am proud of being Eastern Orthodox!"
"The only true church in this world is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- I am proud of being a Latter-Day Saint!"
"The only true church in this world is the Watchtower Society - I am proud of being a Jehovah's Witness!!"
"The only true church in this world is the Presbyterian Church - I am proud of being a Presbyterian!"
"The only true church in this world is the United Methodist Church - I am proud of being United Methodist!"
"The only true church in this world is the Reformed Baptist Church - I am proud of being Reformed Baptist!"
"The only true church in this world is the Free Will Baptist Church - I am proud of being Free Will Baptist!"
"The only true church in this world is the Primitive Baptist Church - I am proud of being Primitive Baptist!!"
All these claims have just as much support for them. Can you prove they are wrong and you are right? Where's the beef?
@@DamonNomad82Doctrine primarily…
@@DamonNomad82 I don't have to prove anything dear. In this information age, ALL the evidence we need is there for honest seekers of truth to see. Beware of keeping yourself blind-something that will eventually prove to be disastrous for you!
@@Enockbeckbrown-hf6xx Yet more assertions without evidence on your part, thus more empty words. You ought to listen to your own warning, as the false beliefs you are following are leading you down the path to destruction.
Assertions without substance.
This is the SDA way.
we need to amswer to God by ourself in everything which we done against Godm
u just play part of it and plenty comment .go and play the whole clip and refute it and let's see😂and let's check if they are really saying they don't believe in trinity.mercy
They did very well.🏅
WHAT DOES THE HOLY BIBLE KJB SAY ? The Father Son and the Holy Spirit Amen 🙏
You have gone over your head. You are sure of things you were initiated to believe but are wrong.
1) Orthodoxy is an impostor religion.
2) Creeds have no authority over anyone. God's truth in Scripture does.
3) Sola Scripture and the Holy Spirit are the only Factors when it comes to Church doctrine.
4) The more you deny Sola Scripture, the more it will deny you and you will be kept in the impostor's darkness and doing harm to the Church through this channel.
5) The Trinity as a doctrine does not determine someone's salvation. The Trinity is a perspective one can come to after very much study and understanding. God never named Himself a Trinity and that is not a coincidence; as much as you would like to think it is, its not. He wanted us to glance at the mystery and marvel but not make it a doctrine to determine who is His and who is not.
6) SDA are deceived eve on huge issues, but so are catholics, orthodox, and Protestants. At least most SDA and Protestants are saved and have the Spirit.
You are on the wrong path. I am Greek and I was a Greek Orthodox. God saved me, and I have an apologetic website where among other things I debate Greek orthodox believers that are not able to do anything against the truth of Scripture,
But, we have an ADVENTIST TRINITY. Anybody running away from that is not sincere!
SDAS's aside, the topic of the nature of God is and will always be, difficult for mere mortals to comprehend. Yes, we can try and come up with models based on scripture, but the truths of his nature will always pose a problem. Jeshua stated that he and the Father are one. Good enough for me.
@@richardtite8469 no one denies this. That’s very different than claiming to agree with Christian orthodoxy in this area when they don’t.
Very true. It just frustrates me that so much effort is put into things like this. Why go around preaching salvation by everything else, except by the words and actions of Jeshua
I am an Adventist, AND INDIVIDUALLY, I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT, my studies (i study the bible not history but i use history to see why others believe what others do). Godhead (Elohim) is one, i dont call them gods, but Jesus is God, and The FAHTER is God and the Holy Spirit is God but they have different personalities and are different persons but God (Elohim) is one. In authority God the Father is greater and i have concluded Jesus is greater than the Holy Spirit because of the Jesus Christ said so.
And finally, just because a lot of people believe it doesnt make it right .
We may use the same language,but we do not define them the same, and we may have the same targets but we believe the different forms.
And this i believe, for many of us who have gotten such lights may have a lot to answer to God, this is why i study alone, i have never trusted my salvation in hands of man theology and understanding and majority of acdeptance. The road to heaven is narrow. Not the majority rule in Christianity.
Churches will argue over and over,, Adventist has non-trinitarian and trinitarians, Christianity have trinity in so many forms. There is a lot of confusion. But with the Bible, i wont have confusion in my self whike watching Many people argue and want to be right.
@@Ndagijimana-zm trinitarians don’t believe the father is the son or the spirit. You are a monarchian. What you described is called monarchianism.
@@answeringadventism you mean me believing that Jesus is not the Father,nor the Holy Spirit but they constitute the the Godhead but with different levels of Authority is called mornachianism?.
True Historic Seventh-day Adventism is not Trinitarian. It is Non-Trinitarian. That is why there is a huge movement of Non-Trinitarian SDAs. The bottom line is, Ellen White, James White and all the Pioneers were not Trinitarian. And the Trinity doctrine is clearly not biblical. It is a false teaching. This does not deny the divinity of Christ as many think. In fact, the Non-Trinitarian understanding of God UPHOLDS the Divinity of Christ even more firmly than the Trinity does.
@@VibrantMarcos right, you guys are a divided mess of confusion. Babylon based on your own definition. The non-trinitarian understanding of God isn’t even real. It’s an idol.
“Clearly not biblical”
Says you. This is a nice assertion but based on the other remedial errors in your comment, it’s obvious why you are off on this as well.
@@answeringadventism being divided is not a good reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Remember Israel? They became divided and wondered after false gods. Even some kings sacrificing their own children unto gods. Does that remove the original oracles committed to Israel? Does the original truths deposited to them to disperse to the world? Even Ellen White herself history will repeat itself within Adventism. The SDA Conference structure is in deep apostasy, but Ellen White herself said there will be a true remnant of Adventists who will be “little known to the Catholics.” Is not the structural system well known to the Catholics? Most certainly.
God is the Father of Christ, and Christ is the Son of God. Not based on some eternal perpetual generation as Catholicism teaches, but a real divine Son was begotten or born from himself. Once from eternity. His goings forth (origins) are from everlasting. (Micah 5:2). That is, it cannot be calculated, and happened before anything was created, before any time could be measured. And the third person of the Godhead is the very divine life of Christ, spiritually manifested. That’s why the Bible and SoP say the Holy Spirit is “breathed”. You don’t go “breathing” another individual out of yourself. Catholics see a constant proceeding of a third being. Which is ridiculous. We must allow inspiration to explain inspiration on who the third person of the Godhead is. Christ had two divine natures. Human and divine. The third person of the Godhead is the divine nature of Christ, spiritually manifested-the unseen personality of Christ. The Bible supports this. There are endless texts to support this historic truth.
5:47 This thinking is why a lot of so-called Protestants oppressed Christ, as Ellen G. White said, lol. Creeds have said things unbiblical that they've claimed were infallible: Idol Worship, Sunday Law, Unclean foods, and Blasphemy. You wouldn't know what is "God Breathed" unless you're a prophet. The Bible and the Bible alone is our way to know what's God-breathed, not the traditions of the creeds/men.
@@1stMikeWhite irrelevant to the point being made. But expected from most Adventists at this point. I think some of you are immune to paying attention. You guys can’t think outside of your fairytale.
@ Claiming infallibility yet not knowing the truth is what lead to hating Jesus. He said it himself that the Jews chose to follow their own traditions. Mark 7:7.
Jesus said it’ll happen again in the future; “If the world hated you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you”
“I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world” John 15 & 17
It’s the same message Ellen G White is referring to, and that same spirit of persecution lives today even in the Protestantism.
@@1stMikeWhite literally no one is persecuting Adventists. You live in a daydream if you think this.
I’ll never understand why some of you ramble about things completely irrelevant to what’s in focus. Aside from the fact that you’re brainwashed into a cultic way of thinking. No one cares what Ellen white said.
@@answeringadventism Well you should know about the dark ages already. At least some of it right?
Yes, the majority of Americans enjoy religious liberty, but think of it like this; at what point does a lamb not fear a wolf? unless the wolf disguises himself.
A child of God should be aware of this truth. You understand this is common sense, and it's Biblical. If God taught us to be ready for persecution and that we'll be hated, if you don't see that then you're the one doing it. Mathew 5:10-12
Jesus' words are taught to this New Earth (in Christ) by Jesus ALONE in the Holy Ghost and NOT by men anymore as it was in the Old Testament. When we stop all bible bashings/arguements and faithfully think while Jesus himself: OUR ONLY GOD and FATHER in heaven TEACH us as he did his disciples, he promised the Holy Ghost would BRING to our memories ALL the words that He himself had spoken. Men are men and as it is: 🤔they rib the scriptures in pieces and OH what a mess! All are still confused and so blinded as they daily preach adding to and taking from the WORD and so adding the plagues/curses upon their own heads never to be ONE as Jesus wills to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Like his disciples; we had and have been warned to beware of FALSE christs etc., who would come in his name ....😮What name? Christians?😢 It is time to heed the WARNINGS and ALL the words that were spoken by the mouth of our Saviour Jesus Christ the Son and God INCARNATE who ROSE and now has been REIGNING forever as our ONLY God and Father in the new Jerusalem in the new heaven and is with men in the new Jerusalem on this new earth in Christ 👉UNSEEN in us in the Holy Ghost never to be seen in the flesh again. Why? Because Jesus said that the WORK he came to earth to do is proof that he is indeed the Only God of heaven and earth and that ONLY work he came to do is "FINISHED" on the cross and is "DONE" at the END of his Apostles commission in the year of the Lord 70 A.D.
Read Revelation 21.❤❤❤
My advice to u the bible didn't say go and critizes people and if they believe u baptize them no .just pray and go with the word for the spirit is capable of doing it on work.the very thing u critizes you dont have time to teach
Margaret: Read Galatians. Would you have objected to Paul writing an entire epistle to point out a false gospel? Sometimes error must be constantly rebuffed so people won’t fall to deceptions like SDAsm. I wish there had been people like Myles around me when I was young in SDAsm. I wasted over three decades in the cultish wasteland of SDAsm! And the LORD brought me out without needing people like Myles. But Myles affirm what any who have left SDAsm know.
@@Bredrin90 I won't object it bro it's our duty as christains to correct, rebuke, rebuild and put things in place and through this we ourselves are growing.I like what Myles does to correct but is he ready to grow through this .I have being noticing something let's use this clip I watched it 3 days before seeing his respond and actually this video they made it clear the church as whole believe in Trinity but Myles cut the clip somewhere and and made a comment that if you didn't watch the first clip u will think otherwise
“Ye shall know them by their fruits”. Can anyone really imagine Jesus or any of the apostles acting like snickering clowns when they rebuke falsehood? And what is the great commission of Jesus? To preach the gospel of the kingdom, not to attempt prove everyone else wrong. The spirit and mission of this channel is totally contrary to the spirit of Jesus and His commission.
Maybe someday you should read the New Testament cover to cover?
The same Jesus that told the disciples to shake off the dust off their feet when people rejected the gospel? The same Jesus that called the Pharisees a brood of vipers? The same Jesus that made a whip to cast people out of the Temple for desecrating it? That Jesus???
The creeds have no authority. The Bible is the authority.
False. The Bible is the only INFALLIBLE authority. But the Bible says the church has a level of authority. So your argument falls apart even if we dismiss the creeds. Which is why biblicism (Bible is the only authority outright) is a self refuting view.
So why does the Bible tell me that "the Church is the Pillar and Ground of truth" (1 Tim 3:15), why does the bible tell me to "hold fast to the TRADITIONS taught by WORD or epistle" (1 Thes 2:15) and why does Jesus tell his apostles that he's given them authority over His Church (Matt 16:18-19). But im assuming you believe that the "Church" has been corrupted, so im happy to discuss that too
@@answeringadventismI will disagree the Council is also Infallible because in Acts 15, it’s the Council that Bind the church on doctrine..
The Orthodox Church has the Bible as Primary Authority and Tradition second in Authority.
Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on me a sinner. Amin. 🙏☦️🙏
@@answeringadventismSo you say Sola Scriptura false?
I'm very sorry for those people, who actually watches and believes the distorted views put forward by this man. Answering adventism, was invented and pushed forward, by people who were possessed by demons... May God help them. U see, adventism is far more significant than just what's obvious to the natural eyes. The truth, will be found by honest seekers. May God continue to bless the SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH, despite the oppositions. Respect
@@narryhudson74 and we fell sorry for people like you who have been deceived and given over to Satan for the destruction of your soul. May God have mercy on you before it’s too late. All your gnostic “Adventism is far more significant than just what’s obvious to the natural eyes” won’t save your soul.
If one wants to understand Myles, it may be helpful to do this: every time he says "Christian" insert the word "Catholic" because he thinks the Creeds have authority. Even though he correctly says they're not canon.
He says SDAs are "out of sync with 'Christian Orthodoxy'" by which he means Catholic Orthodoxy - the Nicene Creed. Both Myles and SDAs are out of sync with Biblical Orthodoxy - if one defines orthodox as adhering to the accepted faith of Jesus and the Apostles as opposed to the so-called early church "fathers" ( responsible for the Creeds).
Myles is as blind a leader as EGW and the bible tells us what happens when the blind lead the blind.
@@johnnytangent2849 “hE’s a CaThoLic!!!1!!!”
Yeah, good one. Such lazy engagement.
Why do SDAs reject the Nicene Creed? What does it lay out that they disagree with?
@@answeringadventism Wow real mature and not lazy reply 🙄🤣
2 Tim 3:16 says scripture is profitable for doctrine. John 17:17 says God's word is truth. The bible has God's authority. The ecumenical creeds only have man's authority - papal authority .
Rome's protesting daughters adhere to a majority of Catholic doctrine. They are "controlled opposition." History attests to the fact that people who seek to obey scripture, when it contradicts the edicts of Rome, have been treated very harshly, to put it mildly.
I understand why Myles left adventism. Its mostly a cult based on the person of Ellen G White. But to leap from that frying pan into the fire of Roman Catholicism (even if one thinks they're protestant) is NOT returning to God and scripture.
Pray that, as Rome tightens its grip on world religion, people in them all will turn to scripture to learn and live God's true way through biblical doctrine and not the tradition and commandments of men.
Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
2 Tim 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
@@johnnytangent2849 Hello, nice to meet you. May I ask which church/teaching you follow please? Apparently not SDA nor Catholic. Blessed Be.
@cindiloowhoo1166 Hi Cindi. I believe the bible teaches the church of God, or "ekklēsia of theos" in the Greek language, is Jesus Christ and all those in whom His Holy Spirit dwells no matter which, if any, kind of the thousands of incorporated organizations, denominations, or other groups people have named that one may associate themselves with.
I believe those people drawn or called by God will have an unusual thirst to discover and follow the teachings or doctrine revealed in the pages of the bible - as opposed to those who want to merely appear righteous with no desire for obedience. Perhaps to "fit in" or gain some social, political or employment advantage or to be in a "club" etc.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
One cannot get through the first few books in the bible without learning about God's commandments and laws that bring blessings to those who obey them. God gave mankind appointed times, or moedim in Hebrew, called feasts in English that include the weekly sabbath as well as seven annual sabbaths.
Each appointment has prophetic significance and pictures steps in God's redemptive plan for mankind. They're also memorials of events in that plan from creation through to the new heavens and earth.
I know that's a long answer. The short answer is the church of God and any manmade organization that teaches and follows God's laws, commandments and appointed times.
I have learned from many denominations and have fellowshipped with several. Even Catholic and SDA have some biblical teachings but their unbiblical doctrines far outweigh those grounded in scripture. The reason is simple.
They put the writings of men and women who did not contribute to biblical canon on or above the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. The "bible" was completed by the apostle John by the end of the first century.
If one is looking for a congregation that stick most closely to the bible here is a good place to start. These too will have some error as all are human.
churchofgodnetwork.org/congregation-map/
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