Cut down jeans shorts are the best, and everyone wore them most of the time in the 80's. Today, some men think they're for women - they are only if they are very short!
Another cracking series, thanks, fellas. I realise that your intention was not to make a tutorial on the Capel build, but it would have been nice, to see different aspects of the build, like drilling the piles, pouring the slabs, putting together all the roof beams and installing them. I may be daft, but you mentioned the steel ring, in the old roof structure, when it was square. Anyway well done very interesting content none the less. Keep the coming..
I like fibreglass roofing covering - no welds or adhesive joints, its all one continuous piece! Any angle or corners etc are possible and neat, no stretching, or bowing around outside corners or shrinking - and they look good. Won't come 'unstuck' and less likely to puncture. Needs OSB over standard PIR though.
The Tessellater. Roger here. I have to say I agree that fibreglass is a good product if it is applied properly. The application is weather dependent so you have to make sure the OSB is bone dry and that can be a problem. The good thing about fibreglass is that you can recoat onto the existing in 15 years time and you have a new roof.
As a home owner who's planning an extension with a flat roof at the moment, all the SkillBuilder videos have been great to give me some context on what goes in to a build. So thanks for that. Although the flat roof systems seem to be the most contentious part of the build I've come across, which makes it extra confusing when each builder seems to have very strong views on what is better "EPDM systems are rubbish" or "GRP systems are no good for this type of build" etc etc. So, is the Alwitra system classed as an EPDM roof or something else entirely? And how does it differ to products from Firestone (which seem to be what most of the builders are quoting on). Cheers again for the videos. Andy
On our project the roofers had never used EPDM, I’m guessing because it’s an easy DIY job. So I did it myself. Built up a warm roof build up, spruce ply, firing strips, OSB, 150mm Kingspan, OSB all clamped together with long screws going through these clever plastic widgets to speed the load and allow the screw to get down deep. Then a single skin of EPDM across the lot. Made to measure, add on’s for corners and other shapes. I’d really recommend it if your happy to have a go. Loads of great videos on line and vendors selling kits.
Asphalt for a start or 3 layer high performance felt with hot bitumen or torch on if done properly , lead! Tell me can they take you to a property that has had it applied for at least 50 years and hasn’t had to be repaired at any point? If not I don’t believe a word of the 50 year life
Robin is fantastic, but like you, this stuff has not been through the mills, I am not a flat roofer but I inspect flat roofs every day, if you have more than decent falls and outlets as well as solid workmanship, felt will easily last 25 or more years, same as asphalt 40years or more
Would it be unfair to say the reason the insurance industry dislike flat roofs is the years of poor products and workmanship associated with felt? These newer methods seem a no brainer to me. We went for an EPDM roof which is a single piece so, in theory, no single point of failure whereas I’d have thought this system has many points of failure although I hear that you have never seen one leak.
no hard edge on the gutters, also the outlet is made to be put going down not through the wall, but you can warm the one side and bend it to make it to go out sideways.
I noted that you had box guttering in the middle of the roof and good slopes down to the outlets. Unfortunately i have a conservatory installed by Anglian 10 years ago which has two sides with aluminium box guttering and the slopes are non existent as well as only having two outlets. Now for the key information. It's nearly 16M long and 4M wide. Yes only two outlets for over 36M of guttering. My problem is that i've now got a leaking box gutter in several places and the ideal and correct solution would be to remove the apex roof to enable the replacement of the box gutter. As it's so big that's a huge cost. Is there anything that you would recommend in trying to resolve the problem? I have been advised to use Acrypol (Travis Perkins) to cover the surface of the box guttering. Any help/advice would be much appreciated.
Hi Robin Thank you for the great video as always. I was just wondering how this product stands against the rubber type roofing methods i.e Firestone and alike, one thing i noticed that the joints seem closer as opposed to a rubber roof that could be done in one piece, or maybe not considering your sizes. Just wondered on your thoughts on this product against the rubber type roofs. Dale @ DP Joinery
Hi Dave, this product is the next level up from the rubber, it has a really good guarantee if you use an approved contractor like Simon, there are more joins as you spotted but as long as the heat weld is consistent then it works a treat, I have been using Alwitra for 20 years and never had a leak! Good to hear from you
Yes it was 37 degrees day after day so the first thing you do every morning is slap on the sunscreen. If you spotted something untoward I suggest you spend far too long looking at Simon' s legs.
Skill Builder well I’ve been Roofing for over 15 years now have my own company and never use this stuff and like I say if you don’t get a leak in it it spreads much more than other products! In my opinion you still can’t beat a good 3 layer felt system using hot bitumen! Plus your already using a layer of hot felt underneath by the looks of it so why not go with the product that is actually gonna keep the water from coming through to your ceilings!
You can't beat torch on felt (If done properly) or Mastic Asphalt. I've been doing flat roofs for over 25 years and I'm a 4th generation flat roofer never had a leak due to my workmanship. I seem to be stripping up and renewing more and more of these new systems, fibreglass, epdm, liquid coatings etc they just are not practical with the English weather .Think they are being push as they are more environmental (as they are not oil based) and the heath and safety of not using a naked flame, but they do not come up to scratch.
Mate 721 subscribers!!! now look at ya 71 K !! well done fella. Well done skill builder for catapulting the UK's fav carpenter.
I think Simon's shorts are from '97 too 😉. Looking good Robin. It's good to hear the reasoning behind your choice of products.
Cut down jeans shorts are the best, and everyone wore them most of the time in the 80's. Today, some men think they're for women - they are only if they are very short!
Another cracking series, thanks, fellas. I realise that your intention was not to make a tutorial on the Capel build, but it would have been nice, to see different aspects of the build, like drilling the piles, pouring the slabs, putting together all the roof beams and installing them. I may be daft, but you mentioned the steel ring, in the old roof structure, when it was square. Anyway well done very interesting content none the less. Keep the coming..
Looking good Robin.
I'm always amazed at the small amount of leaves and moss that can block a standard size down pipe 🍀🇮🇪👍
I like fibreglass roofing covering - no welds or adhesive joints, its all one continuous piece!
Any angle or corners etc are possible and neat, no stretching, or bowing around outside corners or shrinking - and they look good.
Won't come 'unstuck' and less likely to puncture. Needs OSB over standard PIR though.
The Tessellater.
Roger here. I have to say I agree that fibreglass is a good product if it is applied properly. The application is weather dependent so you have to make sure the OSB is bone dry and that can be a problem. The good thing about fibreglass is that you can recoat onto the existing in 15 years time and you have a new roof.
@@SkillBuilder PU resin with polyester fleece seems like a modern version of GRP. It can be laid in slightly damp conditions and is flexible
Great weather for it lads keep up the great work
Im glad alwitra have got rid of the shiny membrane never liked it, its a much better finish now with the matte membrane
Great video robin. Simon is the man for alwitra. As we know. 🏛🏛
Sdmfsc
As a home owner who's planning an extension with a flat roof at the moment, all the SkillBuilder videos have been great to give me some context on what goes in to a build. So thanks for that.
Although the flat roof systems seem to be the most contentious part of the build I've come across, which makes it extra confusing when each builder seems to have very strong views on what is better "EPDM systems are rubbish" or "GRP systems are no good for this type of build" etc etc.
So, is the Alwitra system classed as an EPDM roof or something else entirely? And how does it differ to products from Firestone (which seem to be what most of the builders are quoting on).
Cheers again for the videos.
Andy
On our project the roofers had never used EPDM, I’m guessing because it’s an easy DIY job. So I did it myself. Built up a warm roof build up, spruce ply, firing strips, OSB, 150mm Kingspan, OSB all clamped together with long screws going through these clever plastic widgets to speed the load and allow the screw to get down deep. Then a single skin of EPDM across the lot. Made to measure, add on’s for corners and other shapes. I’d really recommend it if your happy to have a go. Loads of great videos on line and vendors selling kits.
Asphalt for a start or 3 layer high performance felt with hot bitumen or torch on if done properly , lead! Tell me can they take you to a property that has had it applied for at least 50 years and hasn’t had to be repaired at any point? If not I don’t believe a word of the 50 year life
Robin is fantastic, but like you, this stuff has not been through the mills, I am not a flat roofer but I inspect flat roofs every day, if you have more than decent falls and outlets as well as solid workmanship, felt will easily last 25 or more years, same as asphalt 40years or more
Would it be unfair to say the reason the insurance industry dislike flat roofs is the years of poor products and workmanship associated with felt? These newer methods seem a no brainer to me. We went for an EPDM roof which is a single piece so, in theory, no single point of failure whereas I’d have thought this system has many points of failure although I hear that you have never seen one leak.
no hard edge on the gutters, also the outlet is made to be put going down not through the wall, but you can warm the one side and bend it to make it to go out sideways.
I noted that you had box guttering in the middle of the roof and good slopes down to the outlets. Unfortunately i have a conservatory installed by Anglian 10 years ago which has two sides with aluminium box guttering and the slopes are non existent
as well as only having two outlets. Now for the key information. It's nearly 16M long and 4M wide. Yes only two outlets for over 36M of guttering. My problem is that i've now got a leaking box gutter in several places and the ideal and correct solution would be to remove the apex roof to enable the replacement of the box gutter. As it's so big that's a huge cost. Is there anything that you would recommend in trying to resolve the problem? I have been advised to use Acrypol (Travis Perkins) to cover the surface of the box guttering. Any help/advice would be much appreciated.
Whats it like rolling that roofing material and laying it in the rain?
Hi Robin
Thank you for the great video as always.
I was just wondering how this product stands against the rubber type roofing methods i.e Firestone and alike, one thing i noticed that the joints seem closer as opposed to a rubber roof that could be done in one piece, or maybe not considering your sizes.
Just wondered on your thoughts on this product against the rubber type roofs.
Dale @ DP Joinery
Hi Dave, this product is the next level up from the rubber, it has a really good guarantee if you use an approved contractor like Simon, there are more joins as you spotted but as long as the heat weld is consistent then it works a treat, I have been using Alwitra for 20 years and never had a leak! Good to hear from you
Hi can you get this product in New Zealand
How can I contact Simon the roofer
Any thing less that 80-100mm gutter drain pipes are pants imho, they will always get blocked with gunk.
1:23 I think theres a bit of false tan on those lower legs they look awful yellow! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes it was 37 degrees day after day so the first thing you do every morning is slap on the sunscreen. If you spotted something untoward I suggest you spend far too long looking at Simon' s legs.
2018 - 1997 = 19. Too old for multiplication. 🤓
The sun got to me!! Dunces cap for me!
@@ukconstruction Hardly a dunce with your skills Robin! ☺
Rubbish stuff especially when you get a hole in it had to repair so much of this stuff!!
It is very hard to puncture and easily repaired.
Skill Builder well I’ve been Roofing for over 15 years now have my own company and never use this stuff and like I say if you don’t get a leak in it it spreads much more than other products! In my opinion you still can’t beat a good 3 layer felt system using hot bitumen! Plus your already using a layer of hot felt underneath by the looks of it so why not go with the product that is actually gonna keep the water from coming through to your ceilings!
@@famtastic6367 so tell us what you do use on flat roofs It would help us to know what you think is a good membrane.
You can't beat torch on felt (If done properly) or Mastic Asphalt. I've been doing flat roofs for over 25 years and I'm a 4th generation flat roofer never had a leak due to my workmanship. I seem to be stripping up and renewing more and more of these new systems, fibreglass, epdm, liquid coatings etc they just are not practical with the English weather .Think they are being push as they are more environmental (as they are not oil based) and the heath and safety of not using a naked flame, but they do not come up to scratch.
Stephen Tyler exactly thank you someone else with some actual experience and knowledge 👍🏻
All flat roofs hold leafs they will not go a down pipe
I'm the first to comment ! You are not ! Ha! Ha!
nope you are 2nd today slowcoach xD