It's been a while since I hear "Demon Avenger" and "good" in one sentence. Glad to see that they became quite powerful! Good for all loyal mains of that class who suffered through all of these years.
Agree with the above two comments. They know the character is shit so they must give good link and legion to force player at least play him till 120. Or 210
I made this video before my holiday but had to make some adjustments which I couldnt do until I got home! I am back now and so this video is fixed and now live! Hope everyone is doing well and more content are coming soon! Streams will start up again next week as well!
First off, you got me back into maple after 7 years, so thanks for that. And also I got my DA to 200 last night and I'm having a ton of fun with it. Even snagged a really good arcane desperado for less than a bil and currently it can do normal Cygnus extremely easy. But that was before I got my 5th jobs skills and I still have to get used two actually using them. This is video came out at a perfect time so much appreciated!
As a Demon Avenger main, this brings me joy to play even though I don't play anymore... for now. Demon Avenger and Kaiser have always been my favorites because I just get a huge kick out of the like, action-man voice coming out of a tiny maple meeple on my screen.
I played a good amount of DA the past month and i've been having fun. The big thing that they still should add to it is making the shields an auto thing though
Unrelated but I really hope they rework DA's skill effects I feel like they are supposed to be blue & black in opposed to DS' red & black theme. The color scheme is all over the place for DA
I mean your statement can literally go with all the classes in Maplestory. It’s be nicer if you share a little bit more why you would think that. I know kms and gms are bit different but considering there are way bigger population in kms, and kms thinks DA is on top tier now, like in top 5. I think they are in a good place right now. Sure DA has been trashy after all those years but they are so much better now. If most of kms players think that, that’s gotta mean something
DA was the first class i fell in love with when they came out. It was my highest level for a long long time when i was just a very casual player. Now im leveling stuff for legion and link, but i still love the way it plays
Yea and its one of the easiest to build in scaling for HP% and Dmg scale to dmg ratio raises very well It's just sth that's easy to use and decently powerful unlike other classes that tend to suffer one aspect or another DA is just a you don't suffer anything much but you also don't really gain anything much
DA is somehow number 3 on the base dpm chart(if you want the chart link ask in comments 😁). Honestly it’s crazy how good DA is now. And with the new “lotd” DA got their mobbing is crazy, search up some EoTW mobbing videos and the rates are hella good. Ah edit, the tier list seems to be relative change, however da still went up a considerable amount almost a 50% increase in damage
@@sitalius7591 yeah sorry yt doesn’t like links uh Try searching on Reddit a post called “is there a post destiny dps list.” It should have an imgure link as the first comment and that’s the most recent one I could find
I am Main Demon Avenger in Luna. I think the character is a bit undervalued and compared to many other jobs he is overshadowed. I would like nexon to take it a little more into account and at least do a mini rework
I think 5th job skill Revenant is a , it will help u invincibility to almost bosses' skills because HP can't drop below 1 when this skill is activating during 30s (except some like gollux's pink breath)
Demonic frenzy makes you take 30% less damage. With level 30 frenzy, you heal enough to tank most one shots completely (eg. I can tank every one of lotus' lasers in P1)
anyone has any clue why i cant get the next legend medal now? I think it's for those who have at least one character over 200, and actually i have multiple characters over 200...
Demon Avenger has some issues still, but with the insanely high HP the DAs have, they're still a great class to have fun with if you like tactical approaches. They're actually one of the easier classes to grow, but the hardest to take to perfection. Honestly, I will say it... Out of all the classes it is still the most fun to play. Nether Shield is still very OP as it can still heal you even against Damage Reflect using enemies, and Demonic Frenzy is completely overpowering when you can manage your HP properly and paired with other 4th and 5th job skills. I really wish Nether Shield was automatic and just a toggle switch skill. It would help.
The high HP is barely a selling point. We have passive 30% damage reduction against all attacks including boss attacks. Toggle Nether Shield wouldn't fix majority of the issues they have. By far the most common complaint by non mains lol The tracking range is inconsistent and the idle time is trash. We also can't swap gear while shields are attacking in GMS so toggle wouldn't do that any favors.
@@Kerrfuffle I will agree on that. Have NS active and trying to gear swap is a nightmare, and yes the tracking range is all over the place. I find NS only useful in boss fights just to keep healing consistently whereas I spent more time using skills that bypass Damage Reflect. The class really needs a massive overhaul in DPS, but we need better bursting skills that can burst actually for longer duration periods. At 216 my DA should be able to solo bosses harder than CZak like CPB, but the DPS and bursting limitations ruin it. Plus some bosses just seem to have an insta-kill out of nowhere anymore. I'm not even talking Damage Reflect either.
@@chipskylark5500 You have no clue what you're talking about. Your experience with the class is leveling it to 210. Peep the bosses I'm killing on my channel with 17-18* equips.
Once your damage is high enough, you don’t need lunar slash anymore because you can just one shot mobs with demonic frenzy. I play on Reboot NA, and I could one shot lv249 mobs with frenzy when I was lv240. (With funding and symbols of course)
Use your best dojo record first and foremost, but if you really need to convert, it's HP/22.5 or HP/25 depending on your gear. 500k HP is equal to around 20k stat.
Behold the first class that made PE no longer heals you completely. Also man, I can't play on Global MS. its so sad. Region locked at my location. Tried VPN, game is not-surprisingly laggy (in SG, googled network latency and it seems i'll be bound to suffer at least 250ms latency) And my global account was banned 10 minutes into the game, claiming I have used 3rd party tool. and community just tell me to just play SEA. I cope, seeth, and mald.
Bro what VPN did you use. I literally started a week ago from the time of writing this. Have had no issues so far. Using free version of ProtoVPN, im also from SG. Hope it helps.
I stop grinding this class since it was level 190. instead, i use any lv up potions and exp from event to made it to 210. For me it was the right decision (lol) bc this class is kinda bad and not fun to play at all.
Isn't demonic frenzy still a terribly risky skill with basically all bosses hitting with %maxHP damage? Staying at 30% is basically a guarantee to die fast with bosses with a ton of stuff flying around like will and lucid and lotus...
Demonic Frenzy reduces all damage taken by 30%. If you can max it (lv30), the healing restriction becomes from 1% to 2% (doubled if you think about it), so your HP is pretty much always full if you stand closely to bosses I have absolutely 0 issues having this skill on all the time on Lucid both phases, Will phase 1 and 3, and all of Lotus fight. It's an on off skill too so just turn it off and recover if needed For Lucid, just pop Frenzy and stand close to her. If your HP ever dips low enough, just use Blast to recover. Blast also reduces incoming damage by 30% on activation, and its stackable with Frenzy 30% damage reduction making Lucid bombs feels like a scratch lol For Will, same thing, except try not to use it on phase 2 cause potion/healing lock can kill you so fast. If Phase 3 gets hectic enough, either use Reverant or Forbidden Contract to recover quick For Lotus, you can cheese phase 1 with Frenzy on and just tank lasers, and turn it off if things gets hectic on phase 2 and 3. It is extremely funny watching your friends screaming and running around to avoid lasers and you just tank them like nothing lol So yea, Frenzy is both cheese and damage if you know how to utilize it well lol. It certainly has its risks and drawbacks but it's not so bad anymore being an on/off skill
My man what a weird timing. Yesterday i decided to make a DA for the link skill. And i saw like 6 other DA and a few DS also tryina lvl. I usuallybsee nobody.
hmmm they rework demon blast already? Really? I didn't level up that skill when it debut, Charger - skill didn't suit on DA's kit. DA's kit is something like MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA hmmmm
they wont be revamping the entire resistance class as a whole like they did with explorers and cygnus knights but there should be some revamps coming to the individual jobs
ngl, this video far undervalues DA, looking at simply only very early game gameplay does not put a class truly on display, it barely shows the tutorial, DA is currently one of the top tier classes in bossing among all the other ones which will go down slightly in ignition but not a major amount
You need to turn of their frenzy to excede or pot really quick if you can't dodge. It makes DA a really fun change of pace, since you can easily tank chip damage attacks, but you have to pay extra attention to % attacks.
Demon frenzy makes you take 30% less damage from attacks, including one shots. With level 30 frenzy, your hp can very well be close to 100% if you're constantly hitting the boss, allowing you to ignore a lot of boss mechanics.
hey coppersan, can you make a video of new dps classes after the recents updates, its hard to find new dpm charts of classes after all the recent updates
If they would just give this job a better Mobbing attack and make Nether shield a toggle.. this class would be better.. also to have the thorns from the skill revenant appear more often
I love that this is a complaint that almost everyone uses. The damage of the skill gets boosted in 4th job. By this argument classes like BaM or DS are worse since they just keep upgrading the exact same attacking skills each job. DS doesn't even really have a good mobbing skill until 4th. No one cares about pre5th anymore. Hyper burning is going to have the average player getting to 0-250 in 2 months.
Just got mine to 200. Cant play them for more than 10 mins without my hand being in great pain from spamming skills so much and always having to jump on the air. And they just get oneshot by everything....
@@mZStarCraft it's so weird that they nerfed so many classes immediately after buffing them, especially since most of the classes ended up pretty on par with each other all with their own strengths (except some classes lagging behind in updates). I genuinely think they were more worried that late game players would progress faster than they can develop content rather than the class balance itself
I am a DA main and with the change in Ignition, the Frenzy's final damage reduction of 15% is not that much of a concern for me. But Revenant cooldown reduce by HALF? Thats a huge rotation buff, at least for me.
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It's been a while since I hear "Demon Avenger" and "good" in one sentence.
Glad to see that they became quite powerful! Good for all loyal mains of that class who suffered through all of these years.
False, Demon Avenger's link skill is good. Always has been
Indeed. His link skill. Not the character itself.
Agree with the above two comments. They know the character is shit so they must give good link and legion to force player at least play him till 120. Or 210
I made this video before my holiday but had to make some adjustments which I couldnt do until I got home! I am back now and so this video is fixed and now live! Hope everyone is doing well and more content are coming soon! Streams will start up again next week as well!
First off, you got me back into maple after 7 years, so thanks for that. And also I got my DA to 200 last night and I'm having a ton of fun with it. Even snagged a really good arcane desperado for less than a bil and currently it can do normal Cygnus extremely easy. But that was before I got my 5th jobs skills and I still have to get used two actually using them. This is video came out at a perfect time so much appreciated!
As a Demon Avenger main, this brings me joy to play even though I don't play anymore... for now. Demon Avenger and Kaiser have always been my favorites because I just get a huge kick out of the like, action-man voice coming out of a tiny maple meeple on my screen.
I played a good amount of DA the past month and i've been having fun. The big thing that they still should add to it is making the shields an auto thing though
Wish they'd add some mobility skills. Grinding is so linear
Unrelated but I really hope they rework DA's skill effects I feel like they are supposed to be blue & black in opposed to DS' red & black theme.
The color scheme is all over the place for DA
Demon avenger to me is the most half baked character the developers have ever made. It has the potential to be so much but it just isn’t.
Me looking at my phantom… He wants to contest for that spot
I mean your statement can literally go with all the classes in Maplestory.
It’s be nicer if you share a little bit more why you would think that. I know kms and gms are bit different but considering there are way bigger population in kms, and kms thinks DA is on top tier now, like in top 5. I think they are in a good place right now. Sure DA has been trashy after all those years but they are so much better now. If most of kms players think that, that’s gotta mean something
In KMS, DA has been #1 on dps chart for quite some time now
KMS is =/= GMS though
O shit my boi gettin sponsored by PUBG. Happy for you man, you’ve educated me in maple more than any of my friends ever could have.
DA was the first class i fell in love with when they came out. It was my highest level for a long long time when i was just a very casual player. Now im leveling stuff for legion and link, but i still love the way it plays
Yea and its one of the easiest to build in scaling for HP% and Dmg scale to dmg ratio raises very well
It's just sth that's easy to use and decently powerful unlike other classes that tend to suffer one aspect or another
DA is just a you don't suffer anything much but you also don't really gain anything much
DA does have an UP jump and a flash jump, just press forward or up twice
Is that theme of Prontera BGM?
Yes ;3
DA is somehow number 3 on the base dpm chart(if you want the chart link ask in comments 😁). Honestly it’s crazy how good DA is now. And with the new “lotd” DA got their mobbing is crazy, search up some EoTW mobbing videos and the rates are hella good.
Ah edit, the tier list seems to be relative change, however da still went up a considerable amount almost a 50% increase in damage
Where is the dpm chart
@@sitalius7591 yeah sorry yt doesn’t like links uh
Try searching on Reddit a post called “is there a post destiny dps list.” It should have an imgure link as the first comment and that’s the most recent one I could find
31 on the chart but yeah they good still
I am Main Demon Avenger in Luna. I think the character is a bit undervalued and compared to many other jobs he is overshadowed. I would like nexon to take it a little more into account and at least do a mini rework
love ya coppersan, but that damage skin is painful to look at xD
I've not reached lv 200 yet, but is there any way to counter boss one shots? Since i dont think they have an
I think 5th job skill Revenant is a , it will help u invincibility to almost bosses' skills because HP can't drop below 1 when this skill is activating during 30s (except some like gollux's pink breath)
Demonic frenzy makes you take 30% less damage. With level 30 frenzy, you heal enough to tank most one shots completely (eg. I can tank every one of lotus' lasers in P1)
anyone has any clue why i cant get the next legend medal now? I think it's for those who have at least one character over 200, and actually i have multiple characters over 200...
LUNAR SLASH
EXCEED
LIKE CUTTING MOONLIGHT
Demon Avenger has some issues still, but with the insanely high HP the DAs have, they're still a great class to have fun with if you like tactical approaches. They're actually one of the easier classes to grow, but the hardest to take to perfection.
Honestly, I will say it... Out of all the classes it is still the most fun to play. Nether Shield is still very OP as it can still heal you even against Damage Reflect using enemies, and Demonic Frenzy is completely overpowering when you can manage your HP properly and paired with other 4th and 5th job skills.
I really wish Nether Shield was automatic and just a toggle switch skill. It would help.
The high HP is barely a selling point. We have passive 30% damage reduction against all attacks including boss attacks.
Toggle Nether Shield wouldn't fix majority of the issues they have. By far the most common complaint by non mains lol
The tracking range is inconsistent and the idle time is trash. We also can't swap gear while shields are attacking in GMS so toggle wouldn't do that any favors.
But isn't his hp useless because bosses deals %maxhp damage?
@@Kerrfuffle I will agree on that. Have NS active and trying to gear swap is a nightmare, and yes the tracking range is all over the place. I find NS only useful in boss fights just to keep healing consistently whereas I spent more time using skills that bypass Damage Reflect.
The class really needs a massive overhaul in DPS, but we need better bursting skills that can burst actually for longer duration periods.
At 216 my DA should be able to solo bosses harder than CZak like CPB, but the DPS and bursting limitations ruin it. Plus some bosses just seem to have an insta-kill out of nowhere anymore. I'm not even talking Damage Reflect either.
I'm glad you like it, but this class fucking blows imo. Low aoe, low mobility, not that flashy, feels like a worse ds
@@chipskylark5500 You have no clue what you're talking about. Your experience with the class is leveling it to 210. Peep the bosses I'm killing on my channel with 17-18* equips.
Hi coppersan! Is this video showing DA in gms right now or is this coming in ignition
how i level this? i cant equip equipments because it requires str????
Once your damage is high enough, you don’t need lunar slash anymore because you can just one shot mobs with demonic frenzy. I play on Reboot NA, and I could one shot lv249 mobs with frenzy when I was lv240. (With funding and symbols of course)
Demon Avenger aside... the fact that you are using Ragnarok online OST is awesome. nonetheless Prontera OST!
How do I compare HP to main stat? Like if you recommend 10k+ main stat for a boss, how do I convert HP into a useful number for that?
Use your best dojo record first and foremost, but if you really need to convert, it's HP/22.5 or HP/25 depending on your gear. 500k HP is equal to around 20k stat.
How to maintain healing during demonic frenzy?
The healing while Frenzy is on at lv30 is twice what it is at lv1-29. See here: th-cam.com/video/Nhl7LDuyRb8/w-d-xo.html
"something new happened in maple? better check coppersan videos"
-me like every 5 days
Opened this video expecting DA discussion and instead got blasted by Mabinogi nostalgia.
Hmmm, I heard Ragnarok music from 5:57
The content I've been waiting for! Demon avenger is kinda tempting me, I want to make one as a bossing mule!!
Absolute chad! As a Demon Avenger main I, thank you for the video
Behold the first class that made PE no longer heals you completely.
Also man, I can't play on Global MS. its so sad.
Region locked at my location.
Tried VPN, game is not-surprisingly laggy (in SG, googled network latency and it seems i'll be bound to suffer at least 250ms latency)
And my global account was banned 10 minutes into the game, claiming I have used 3rd party tool.
and community just tell me to just play SEA.
I cope, seeth, and mald.
Bro what VPN did you use. I literally started a week ago from the time of writing this. Have had no issues so far.
Using free version of ProtoVPN, im also from SG.
Hope it helps.
I stop grinding this class since it was level 190. instead, i use any lv up potions and exp from event to made it to 210. For me it was the right decision (lol) bc this class is kinda bad and not fun to play at all.
Isn't demonic frenzy still a terribly risky skill with basically all bosses hitting with %maxHP damage? Staying at 30% is basically a guarantee to die fast with bosses with a ton of stuff flying around like will and lucid and lotus...
Demonic Frenzy reduces all damage taken by 30%. If you can max it (lv30), the healing restriction becomes from 1% to 2% (doubled if you think about it), so your HP is pretty much always full if you stand closely to bosses
I have absolutely 0 issues having this skill on all the time on Lucid both phases, Will phase 1 and 3, and all of Lotus fight. It's an on off skill too so just turn it off and recover if needed
For Lucid, just pop Frenzy and stand close to her. If your HP ever dips low enough, just use Blast to recover. Blast also reduces incoming damage by 30% on activation, and its stackable with Frenzy 30% damage reduction making Lucid bombs feels like a scratch lol
For Will, same thing, except try not to use it on phase 2 cause potion/healing lock can kill you so fast. If Phase 3 gets hectic enough, either use Reverant or Forbidden Contract to recover quick
For Lotus, you can cheese phase 1 with Frenzy on and just tank lasers, and turn it off if things gets hectic on phase 2 and 3. It is extremely funny watching your friends screaming and running around to avoid lasers and you just tank them like nothing lol
So yea, Frenzy is both cheese and damage if you know how to utilize it well lol. It certainly has its risks and drawbacks but it's not so bad anymore being an on/off skill
@@Tyreake I see, that's nice to know. Though maxing node is quite a long endevour.
Can you make an updated hayato video?
My man what a weird timing. Yesterday i decided to make a DA for the link skill. And i saw like 6 other DA and a few DS also tryina lvl. I usuallybsee nobody.
Interesting, I saw quite a few also. It was weird seeing like 2-3 seemingly synchronized DAs and DS travelling together, lol
DA is only good if you love the class. If not, it's trash (overall)
- DA lv 276 that lib December 2022
skill delay problem solve?
how about an up to date grind guide for new players?
How is that damage skin even in existance?
goated for the mabi music
hmmm they rework demon blast already? Really? I didn't level up that skill when it debut, Charger - skill didn't suit on DA's kit. DA's kit is something like MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA hmmmm
I've honestly hated the grind with Da so far def dropping him after 120 and coming back later for legiom
I heard Ragnarok prontera town BGM lol
I heard the dev is planning on revamping the resistances next after the cygnus knight, is this true?
they wont be revamping the entire resistance class as a whole like they did with explorers and cygnus knights but there should be some revamps coming to the individual jobs
ngl, this video far undervalues DA, looking at simply only very early game gameplay does not put a class truly on display, it barely shows the tutorial, DA is currently one of the top tier classes in bossing among all the other ones which will go down slightly in ignition but not a major amount
DA just turned into a nice class for me after I discovered he ignores stats requirement for equipments. It changed everything for me lmao
Equipment stopped having (relevant) stay requirements ages ago - ever since classes dropped their secondary stats
I do not know why I hate that class....so much...what level will the skills get better?
If Late game bosses do % HP attacks. How does DA deal with this being at 30 %hp?
You need to turn of their frenzy to excede or pot really quick if you can't dodge. It makes DA a really fun change of pace, since you can easily tank chip damage attacks, but you have to pay extra attention to % attacks.
Demon frenzy makes you take 30% less damage from attacks, including one shots. With level 30 frenzy, your hp can very well be close to 100% if you're constantly hitting the boss, allowing you to ignore a lot of boss mechanics.
@@GohYuheng so in terms of survability would you say DA is actually better than most classes?
@@marlondiaz4281 with 30 frenzy + 30 second revenant “I-frame” I would say yes, but I’ve only done up to lucid, so I can’t advice on beyond.
hey coppersan, can you make a video of new dps classes after the recents updates, its hard to find new dpm charts of classes after all the recent updates
Could returning player keep up?
If they would just give this job a better Mobbing attack and make Nether shield a toggle.. this class would be better.. also to have the thorns from the skill revenant appear more often
phantom?
unpopular opinion: Demon Avenger >>> Demon Slayer
Mobbing with 3rd job skill still sucks
I love that this is a complaint that almost everyone uses. The damage of the skill gets boosted in 4th job. By this argument classes like BaM or DS are worse since they just keep upgrading the exact same attacking skills each job. DS doesn't even really have a good mobbing skill until 4th. No one cares about pre5th anymore. Hyper burning is going to have the average player getting to 0-250 in 2 months.
They made it bigger in KMS recently for crybabies like you.
How good is Mercedes now??
Just got mine to 200. Cant play them for more than 10 mins without my hand being in great pain from spamming skills so much and always having to jump on the air. And they just get oneshot by everything....
Mercedes is one of the highest burst classes believe it or not. Considered really OP and it just keeps getting buffed.
Run away and never look back
DA getting nerfed soon tho LOL
Wdym
@@elitsoerrosenberg they got nerfed again in ignition
@@elitsoerrosenberg KMS players(probbably adele mains) whined that their class isn't #1 anymore so they nerfed frenzy's final dmg by 15%..
@@mZStarCraft it's so weird that they nerfed so many classes immediately after buffing them, especially since most of the classes ended up pretty on par with each other all with their own strengths (except some classes lagging behind in updates). I genuinely think they were more worried that late game players would progress faster than they can develop content rather than the class balance itself
I am a DA main and with the change in Ignition, the Frenzy's final damage reduction of 15% is not that much of a concern for me. But Revenant cooldown reduce by HALF? Thats a huge rotation buff, at least for me.
Wow pubg mama still lives?
“Dragon ball super hero” … lord my ears pls..
Prontera!
é exatamente o video que eu precisava. BRASIL
i play pubg mobile with my girl ^^