Balividhan - By Rajarshi Nandy
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Extremely potent and valuable information about pashu Bali, it’s importance in worship of devatas that are Bali priyas 🙏🙏
The amount of confidence and clarity Rajarshy exudes while he speaks is inspirational
As usual it is a treat to listen to Rajarishi da.
Malayali? Tamil? Just asking.
@@Ragnar638 He is Bengali
@@Ragnar638 How come anyone deem "Nandy" as sOuTh or north or south east etc etc ( or incapable of differentiating among surnames ) I wonder 🤔😂
Nandy is cent percent Bengali surname ...I can even differentiate between a Russian or Polish / Serbian surname.. Spanish from Italian / Portuguese surname & these folks can't even do it among their own country 🥴
This man is simply brilliant - not just about what he knows, but how beautifully he explains them.
And HUMBLE above all🙌
Only Dada can talk like this . At least I haven’t met anyone in india . 🙏🙏🙏
This man is a powerhouse of knowledge :)
@X8 Z
"This man is a powerhouse of knowledge :)"
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Yes true.
I came across Sri Rajarshi Nandy's talk only recently.
The knowledge that he disseminates has helped me to gain a better understanding of different religions and different dharmic systems.
For instance, at 1:11:38, he says:
"Eat whatever you feel like, so long as you stay away from things which are banned like beef and all that"- as if cows (and bulls and their calves) are the only animals that feel pain when they are slaughtered.
It blatantly shows the sheer HYP0 ¢RI CY of Hinduism (i.e. SO-CALLED Sanatana Dharma), and that it is not very different from the hyp0çri¢y of those Abrahamic/Ibrahimic desert cults that Hindus love to b€ll!†le.
@@ex.hindu.now.atheist if you are eathist what are you doing here? U don't believe there is God, Bali or no Bali how does it matter to you.
@@charolinadutta2
"if you are eathist what [...] matter to you."
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It MATTERS because people of ALL religions (including people of ALL SO-CALLED dharmic systems) bring their UNFOUNDED beliefs into the public sphere, thereby affecting other people-including the people who do not subscribe to those beliefs.
If religious (and also SO-CALLED dharmic people) kept their UNFONDED beliefs within their mosques, their churches, their temples, their synagogues, their gurdwaras, their agiaries, etc., it would not matter to others like me.
I hope you can understand now.
@@ex.hindu.now.atheist you cant support illegal things online amd people will eat whatever they like its not like you'll stop doing something youve been doing for years just because someone on internet said so although it can effect however,what does it mean to you if we support bali or not you are just dumb and cant even understand basic things 🤡🤡🤡🤡😭😭😭😭
@@ex.hindu.now.atheist he even cleared that bali is however not the same😭😭😭😭 how you gotta be so ignorant,this is just pure foolishness.if you are going to argue then do it with more than one braincell
Nandi ji i am 100 percent agreement with u
Especially wrt the threat hindus are facing
We need to revive bali pratha especially the Shatriyas who have Kali as their kul devi
Om
Dharmo Rakshatih Rakshatah
He has the power of Bhagwati with him all the time, what a powerful upasak and teacher Rajashri sir is .
In my hometown in Assam there is a Devi temple where pashubali is widely practiced. Before the bali the animal is taken inside the sanctum where the priest whispers into the animal's ears. Immediately the animal becomes calm and stops making any noise. This always used to amaze me since I was a kid and to this day as well.
A Fan of Sir after watching podcast with beer biceps 💪
Thank you for this. Excellent talk by someone who has skin in the game. A request to the channel: please make the title more descriptive so that a Hindu interested in knowing more about bali can easily look this video up. For example, 'Balividhan: Sacrifice in Hindu rituals'.
Excellent suggestion.
I left Hinduism because of these reasons 👇
Only pornographer would do what Krishna did - watching young girls bathing naked at river. Kidnapping pre-puberty girl Rukmini.
Only a psychopath would do what Shiva did - be heading an innocent boy's head and replacing it with an innocent elephant's head.
Only an insecure person would do what ram did - ditching his wife suspecting her of sleeping with her kidnapper.
Only a petty criminal and rapist would do what vishnu did - Vishnu disguised himself as Jalandhara and took Vrinda's chastity.
I can't think of them as gods anymore.
This talk so important in terms of the debate of Pashubali... There are naive bhaktas & then there are adamant fools. For those who wish & care to listen, this is the talk they must listen to dispel all their misgivings about Shakta Tantra & Pashubali.
Why it is held in such high regard, 39:25 secs , it's reiterated that Bali has its finality. You screwup & you pay the price..
It's not mere Halal or Jhatka debate but more about our own Dharma..
Even the words used are so weighed. What an absolute delight.
There's no doubt that bali has a very scientific basis and is a powerful metaphysical technology. Having said that, there are other technologies widely available for connecting with and progressing to Divinity. More fundamental to the sciences is compassion and a binary choice - harm/cause pain or not. So while Bali is a powerful tool, there are more fundamental paths where we honour and bring forth the foundational principal of love and kindness instead of resorting to Bali
A fantastic talk. In-depth and logical. Many thanks for this talk.
Very nice and powerful talk.. My 2 cents...
Bali Vidhan is an integral part of Shakti Puja because is is sanctioned by the Shashtra. I fail to understand the mindset of people who are opposing it. First, you pay visit to the Mother Goddess (who has khadga (sword) in her hand, wears munda mala (garland made of freshly chopped heads)) and you expect her to be all kind, non violent and benevolent only (human standards) . No doubt she is kind and benevolent, however, that does not mean she does not like Bali.. In fact one of the names of of the mother goddess is balipriye (one who likes Bali).. To all those who oppose Bali Vidhan - 1. You are free to worship any other form of God who does not warrant Bali.. 2. Please don't peddle your weakness and try to impose your weakness on how the mother goddess's worship should be done 3. Get your concepts clear on Bali Vidhan before speaking on public forums..reveals how shallow you can think of. Joi Ma Kamakhya...
But what about the innocent creatures that are used for bali?Maha Kali had killed all the demons...she had drunk their blood...she didn't drink the blood of the innocent...so how can she find this sacrifice pleasing?
@@khushiparoha
"But what about the innocent creatures that are used for bali? [...] she didn't drink the blood of the innocent...so how can she find this sacrifice pleasing?"
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*I AGREE with the larger point that you are seeking to make-i.e., what about the innocent animals.*
The question that has ALWAYS arisen in my mind *(even when I was a Hindu)* is:
- WHY is it that there are deities-which are essentially aspects or forms of god-who like the k! LL !ng of innocent animals as sacrifices (i.e. Bali Priya)?
- Further, why is it that *human beings* (somehow have to) k!ll sentient innocent animals as an offering to those god(s)/deities if they want to please that deity (i.e. that specific aspect or form of god)?
- If god is omnipotent, why does that omnipotent god not take the life of the animal on his/her/its own? Why does god need/want a HUMAN BEING to k! LL the animal?
I have always felt that if human beings want to k! ll an animal, at least they should be honest about it.
They should NOT try to absolve themselves by using the excuse that god wants it.
Have you read the story of *Siruthonda Nayanar,* who is one of the 63 celebrated Saivite/Shaivite saints *(saints known as Naayanaar and also as Naayanmaar)* among *Tamilian Hindus?*
If you have not read it, please do read it, or see the videos on TH-cam.
You will find that it is NOT VERY DIFFERENT from the story of Abraham/Ibrahim (at least as far as a devotee being ready to k! LL even his own INNOCENT child in order to make god happy is concerned).
Thoughts on Pashubali
1st blunder: You think you and the deity are different.
2nd fact: You created an Ugra form for protection. Because you yourself became soft. So, you had to invoke the deity outside of yourself for protection.
3rd Fact: If you have invoked the Ugra form, you need to feed the deity your life force. Because that's what it is made of and that's what She or He feeds on(You literally used your life force for pran pratishtha when you made a stone into a high energy instrument with a specific purpose).
But then you didn't go deeper within yourself and did not figure out the technology (tantra) that can help you feed the deity, your own life force(which is the ideal way).
So, you choose a cheaper option. Which is feeding someone else life force(blood) to the deity.
Conclusion: It takes body aching sadhna to embody the deity, but you'd rather choose an easy way. Buy an animal, and feed his/ her blood to the deity for your own benefit(spiritual or material advancement).
Just because it is written in 100 books doesn't make it sanatan dharma. Unless you yourself haven't touched that sanatan(eternal) aspect within yourself, you will always create deities/books/systems outside of yourself to be fulfilled.
Something eternal and unlimited cannot be understood and performed through something limited (like a book). It will always be limited. Hence, it will always give temporary fulfilment.
Also, later in the path when you realise all this time, you were the deity that you were worshipping. All that Karm that you accumulated thinking that your deity will take care of it, will come back at you and then you'll have to deal with it.
So Good luck killing the innocents of other species to protect your own species.
@@Swaha.Shivangi
"Thoughts on Pashubali [...] protect your own species".
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You have your imagination of Tan-Tanaatanism running wild,
and
Shaktas have their imagination of Tan-Tanaatanism running wild.
How nice!! 😂😂
@@khushiparoha what about the innocent babies who are born in hospital and die within a week of being born with no chance of survival. is that not maa or whatever divine you choose doing this. your misconception arises out of atheism. do you believe the animal is killed? no its soul is elevated by the deity. remember just because you feel a certain way doesnt make that true.
For those protesting against bali on emotional/moral grounds, few logical points to think about:
1. Everyday BILLIONS (100s of crores) of animals are killed for human consumption. On top of that, a lot of that meat is wasted. Imagine an animal dying only to end up in trash.
2. Who says nature/God is compassionate all the time. Compassion is one of the attributes of God / Nature but not the only attribute. In this Nature itself animals kill and eat other animals including newborns, eggs, etc. Nature runs by rules, and violent deaths are part and parcel of that system.
3. For those jinse animals ki pleading eyes dekhi nahin jati - hey guys grow up. There are hundreds of pleading human/animal eyes all around you everyday. Pay attention to them as well. Most likely you are a soft urban cocooned child who has not been exposed to the harsh realities and cruelties of everyday life. You will faint if you see a surgery being performed.
4. Why all this gyan only for Sanatanis? Mulla ko bhi samjhao na eid par kaatna band karein!
5. Ugra devatas require ugra bhog. Some deities are pleased by fruits, but others require meat. Why should this be so shocking to understand?
And who are ugra devatas? For example, somebody you would worship for victory in a war. Wars are won when the fighter has killer animal instincts, naturally the devatas also have to be like that. To access their krupa for victory, you have to please them by offering what they want. Imagine pitting a khichri-eating waifish Indian football team against a meat-eating solid muscle European team! You get the idea!
6. Devatas have multiple roopas and manifestations. She can be a compassionate mother in one form and a fierce implacable destrouer in another form. Naturally, the offerings also have to be as per the swabhav of the deity.
These are purely logical arguments. In addition, bali is approved by numerous authoritative scriptures written by the most learned and wise rishis. To question or mock them and implying that we have become wiser or more civilised than them, is a laughable notion. If anything, humans of today are just a fraction of the ancients in every possible way.
None of our deities ask for Bali. It is only bad and aghori Shakti’s that ask for Bali and fools comply.
God does not require any offerings including flowers or any food. We offer them for our pleasure. In the case of pashubali, a living creature is involved.
When there are conflicting views based on scriptures; one has to go only by Vedas for authentic opinion. Vedas do not permit himsa of any sort and so pashubali is against scriptures.
Many tantrics believe in human sacrifice too. Should such practices be allowed?
Just because a large number of people eat meat; it does not give permission for pashubali.
Imagine aliens take over our earth and they believe in human sacrifice to please their deity. If someone close to us is taken away for sacrifice, how would we feel?
One should always aspire for a higher level of ethos and values. Not killing animals for food or sacrifice is one such path. May God and deities shower knowledge and kindness to killers and dissuade them from their wretched ways.
Even your body doesn't require an animal to eat essentially, if that is your promise. Most of the non-vegetarians eat it to satisfy their taste buds. @@bkchandrasekhar6240
Rajarshi Sir is definitely an old pure soul who’s been chosen by our Daivatas in this life to pass on and remind us of our Sanatana Dharmā and our Hindu rituals and culture. Thank you Sir for this extreme knowledge and reminder to continue our prayers. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌺🌺
Excellent discussion as always. Thank you Sir and the organisers .
Clarity and conviction as always.
@The Ramesh Venkatraman Podcast
"Clarity and conviction as always."
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Yes, Correct.
I came across Sri Rajarshi Nandy's talks of late.
The knowledge that he disseminates in a pretty much clear manner has helped me to gain a better understanding of different religions and different dharmic systems.
For instance, at 1:11:38, he says:
"Eat whatever you feel like, so long as you stay away from things which are banned like beef and all that."- as if cows (and bulls and their calves) are the only animals that feel pain when they are slaughtered.
It blatantly shows the sheer HYP0 ¢RI CY of Hinduism (i.e. SO-CALLED Sanatana Dharma), and that it is not very different from the hyp0çri¢y of those Abrahamic/Ibrahimic desert cults that Hindus love to b€ll!†le.
@@ex.hindu.now.atheist reply for few more times then only you will receive your payment
The crux of the issue is whether this ancient ritual is supported by the shastras or not. And scripture after scripture (very richly produced in multiple comments on this thread) unequivocally support balividhan. Once shastras sanction the ritual then personal opinion, fragile emotions and woke secular ideas are irrelevant. The hypocrisy couldn’t be brought to a starker contrast when these same woke seculars do not bat an eyelid at the streets awash with blood during Eid. The question becomes how is this tradition allowed to continue unbroken and undisturbed while Hindus have to bear the brunt and practice their rituals surreptitiously in their own land? This is further aggravated by Hindu meat eaters who love nothing better than a succulent meat biryani but become queasy at the thought or sight of bali. How did the meat end up on their plates? Good question to contemplate when they take a bite of the meat at their next meal.
Don't confuse Human Mother with Divine Mother 🔥 he further explains ... Powerful stuff ...
Although it appears to be powerful but is it not that Divine mother is expected to be more benevolent than any human mother? Divine mother is free from dualities of Attraction and Aversion or likes and dislikes.
This Bali bidhan may only bind us towards samsara that is cycle of karma and rebirth as some one has to take the karma that causes suffering to the animal and it apparently goes towards the person who does this Bali bidhan to fulfil his/her materialistic desire.
@@ExistenceConsciousnessBliss No No No. Materialistic mother do not put soul or Atma inside child's body. Or doesn't have power to liberate any soul. While divine mother decide what to do with the soul got freed from that body. To get enlightened , to get free from kama bandhan bali vidhan is necessary to reach to goddess. Actually bali is not offered to goddess but the 'Gan' who serves goddess. Hence you do not get tied in karma. I think you have not listened to the lecture propwrly
@@ExistenceConsciousnessBliss i don't understand from where you have derived this philosophy. If you did pay attention to the video, it's very clear that Pashubali is sanctioned by tantra shastras.
Goutam Roy's opinion is not required before BaliVidhan, that is certainly very clear.
@@ExistenceConsciousnessBliss and what exactly is the basis of your ‘expectation’ from the Divine mother ? Simple sentimentalism ? Shouldn’t shashtras, which contain the essence of the experiences and revelations to Devtas and Rishis reign supreme ? Should we base our thoughts based on cheap sentimentalism originating from Abrahamic propaganda that we have internalized, or mould those as per the Shastras ?
@@yogendraksharma1779 Please read Bhagbat Gita where a simple human being like us is expected to be free from dualities of attraction and aversion. And She is divine mother.
I understand people in this world has different goals. Balibidhan is suitable for some specially people having more tamasic temperament but that doesn't make my Divine mother selfish-having a special corner for human beings as they can provide her Bali and she doesn't care for the suffering of the poor animal.
No matter how hard you try, you can not deny the karmic repercussions (Our respected speaker didn't deny that). If you are a non vegetarian, than you do not consider your karmic repercussions at the first place and balibidhan is obviously suitable for you.
Finally your divine mother may be different from mine. There is a saying in Bengali "Jemon Bhab temon LaaV" which means you will get reciprocated only. For this you can refer Bhagbat Gita 4:11 also.
Very comprehensive and lucid discussion
Position of Brahma Sutras on Balividhan and commentaries on it by various acharyas from different sampradayas:
Vyasa discusses the issue of animal sacrifice near the end of Adhyaya 3 Pada 1 of the Brahma Sutras:
If it be argued that rites (invoking killing of animals) are unholy, we say, no, since they are sanctioned by scriptures.
Adi Shankaracharya says about animal sacrifice in his Advaita commentary on the Brahma Sutras:
We proceed to refute the remark made by the pûrvapakshin that sacrificial works are unholy because involving harm done to animals ... Now from scripture we derive the certain knowledge that the gyotishtoma-sacrifice, which involves harm done to animals (i.e. the animal sacrifice), &c., is an act of duty; how then can it be called unholy?--But does not the scriptural precept, 'Do not harm any creature,' intimate that to do harm to any being is an act contrary to duty?--True, but that is a general rule, while the precept, 'Let him offer an animal to Agnîshomau,' embodies an exception; and general rule and exception have different spheres of application.
Ramanujacharya says in the Sri Bhashya, his commentary on the Brahma Sutras:
it is not so, on account of scriptural statement. For Scripture declares that the killing of sacrificial animals makes them to go up to the heavenly world, and therefore is not of the nature of harm. This is declared in the text, 'The animal killed at the sacrifice having assumed a divine body goes to the heavenly world'; 'with a golden body it ascends to the heavenly world.' An action which is the means of supreme exaltation is not of the nature of harm, even if it involves some little pain; it rather is of beneficial nature.--With this the mantra also agrees: 'Thou dost not die, thou goest to the gods on easy paths; where virtuous men go, not evil-doers, there the divine Savitri may lead thee.' An act which has a healing tendency, although it may cause a transitory pain, men of insight declare to be preservative and beneficial.
Madhvacharya says in this excerpt from his Dvaita commentary on the Brahma Sutras:
It may be said that sacrificial work involves injury to life, and as such it is productive of sin and consequently of misery, and that, therefore, it is not to be performed. But this objection is to be refuted on the ground that the injury to life involved in holy duties is permitted by the word (scripture); for the Varahapurana says, "To do harm to any life except as enjoined by scripture is really productive of sin and evil consequences; on the other hand, no evil consequences possibly arise from the act of killing permitted by the Vedas."
Baladeva Vidyabhushana says in this excerpt from his Gaudiya Vaishnava commentary on the Brahma Sutras:
Because piety and impiety is known only from the Vedas’ statements, the Vedas’ order to commit violence must be understood to be actually kind and pious. Therefore the orders of the Vedas are never impure. The prohibitions “Never commit violence to anyone,” and “Violence is a sin,” are the general rules decreed by the Vedas; and the statement, “One should sacrifice an animal in an agnisomiya- yajña,” is an exception to that general rule. A general rule and a specific exception to that rule need not contradict each other. There is scope for each.
Beautifully explained. For all those who truly seek to know the Vidhans in our Shastras should read it and enrich themselves
Thanks for these Pramanas from Acharyas of different schools
Thank you very much Rajarshi sir, for giving this profound knowledge
I saw the pigeon bali in Kamakhya. After the temple was closed to public, i and my friend being upasakas were allowed to stay in the outer compound for our japa. I was doing pradakshinas to the sanctum sanctorum in the outer corridor. The compound was deserted except for the howling of the winds and the black carpeting night only to be lit by the fierce electic lights in the compound. As i was doing the pradakshina, i saw a piegon coming flying down at that time. and land on the way. I just moved away and continued my pradakshina. when i entered to the next round, the piegion was still there alive and seeing all sides but was sitting as if it was laying an egg. It did not move even though i was walking just next to it. When i entered the next round of pradakshina, it was fully on ground with its head leaning on the floor still alive. But when i entered the fourth round of pradakshina, i saw water on the floor which came out of its mouth and the piegion was completely lying dead on the floor. I told the same to a high level disciple of my guru, but got no response. Now after seeing this video, i understood what it was.
Can you please let me know how to find a guru for Kamakhya Sadhana?
Thanks for bringing out ancient knowledge to the fore.
Excellent, Excellent conversation…. And very much informative ( दिमाग़ के जाले साफ़ हो गये ) kind of ! Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Such a lovely session. Lots of my doubts got cleared. Thanks 🙏
Very enlightening and useful ! Very informative!🙏🏽💐
Thanks for this talk. Rajarshi so simply dispels misconceptions about rituals which are misunderstood due to lack of knowledge.
Excellent discourse on this topic.
uffff!!! mind blowing🤯🤯
Such deep knowledge benefits everybody...
Really really enlightening and superb
Brilliant lesson.
My father told me that the mahabharat books mention how kauravs offered a bali of a rakshas from their army to kaal bhairav and pandavs gave bali of khatu shyam aka veer barbarik (son of ghatotghach-grandson of bheem) to kali mata in order to win war. It has been a kshatriya practice. Even my Rajput ancestors had done so. Even more interesting, some future tellers that my great grandfather head of said in riddles that when bali pratha will stop in this specific Rajput kingdom, mlecchas will conquer and torture bharat varsh and the change of Bharat will begin.
I am takankar rajput (rathod)
i am from Maharashtra and i am am from Rajasthan origin my ancestors came in Maharashtra because of Haldighati war in my culture we worship वळेखण माता (valekhan mata) and to please or make her happy our mother goddess we give goat or sheep sacrifice not just cut the throat there is certain steps like firet we have to make the sheep have a quick bath and after that waer a garland and say some mantra in ear of the sheep or goat and we wait for our mother goddess to accept the sacrifice the signal of the acceptance on the sacrifice is the sheep sneez it means the goddess has accepted the sacrifice then we sacrifice by cutting throat it a certain step then we distribute it in our kul कुळ (linage) . This ritual is in my culture from many years . What hurts is so called WhatsApp sanatani's say it is not in sanatan dharma and you will go to hell . But i believe in my mother vadekhan and i am proud of my culture. If you wonder who is vadekhan वळेखण then i can tell you as per my knowledge she is durga . Jai. Valekhan
Excellent.
Sir please record some episodes in hindi too. For some like me hindi is very close to heart and listening to something like this in hindi takes the experience to next level
You can search his videos in Hindi on youtube and pls do subscribe his channel www.youtube.com/@Adhyatmikta
@@RajeShivrajeThakkar thanks
Many of my doubts are cleared in this one video
There is so much to say but I'm at a loss of words. All I can do now is 🙏🙏🙏
Rajarshi Sir 🙏❤️
Ms Ankita talked about kesaikhaiti gokhani thaan in sadiya actually there was a temple called Tambreshwari temple where human sacrifice was offered is located in Assam arunachal border sadiya.
Dhanyavaad 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you
that u guru ji i love ur videos i learn alot hari om
उद्दिश्य दुर्गा हन्यन्ते विधिना यत्र जन्तव:.....
भगवती दुर्गा के उद्देश्य से जहाँ विधिपूर्वक जन्तुओं की बलि दी जाती है, उनका हनन किया जाता है, वे सब स्वर्ग चले जाते हैं और इस प्रकार हनन करने में पाप नहीं होता.
Bali Is opposed but no one questions lakhs on animals killed to satisfy taste buds. Hypocrisy
Amen to that, so true ❤
People eat meat all the time and they don't have a problem with it but when it's offered to God and then it's being eaten then people suddenly start to have problems like " we have to stop animal sacrifices" but you are eating animals that's fine but you can't offer it, why?? The root cause for this seems like defamation you know
When Afzal Khan destroyed various temples in Maharashtra including tuljapur tuljabhawani Mandir. It is said that tulja bhavani came to dreams of Shivaji Maharaj and demanded bali of 32 teeth Goat i.e Afzal Khan. The bali vidhan in Maharashtra is still practiced and I can clearly see why Marathas later dominated Mughals despite of having every other disadvantages
Why couldn't the deity protect the Marathas from Ahmed Shah abdali in 3rd battle of panipat.why did Marathas loose in Anglo maratha war......?
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iq panipat is literally thousands miles away from Maharashtra. And was Britishers never threat for Dharma. We still so ours marriages 12 o'clock at noon unlike you bhaiyas who were too afraid to that sultan would kidnap the bride in day light 😂
@@gagadonim3354 Ahmed Shah abdali defeated the Marathas thousands of miles far...okay so deity has a range limit...tower nahi pakra deity ka....and Britishers enslaved for 200 years...looted destroyed the culture,made u poorest of the poor ,famines nothing even to eat...but okay yeah they were not threat to dharma
@@gagadonim3354 at least we bhaiyas recognise our weakness so that we can work hard and come out stronger ....not like you who blame the deity...or maybe u didn't do enough sacrifices....if u had killed 5000 more buffaloes maybe Marathas would not hv lost to abdali
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iq absolutely Marathas had no business fighting someone's else war. And Britishers actually ended the cruel peshwa rule and created equality among people. That's what binds us till this date. The money doesn't even matter during Mughal period India was the richest and Dharma suffered like anything.
Arun Kumar Sharma (a famous upasak) mentioned pashubali in his book,that goat is the creature of yaksha lok the only animal who mate to his mother goat so it's not the creature of earth ,if it dies again gets birth as a goat,so to free him from this goat yoni pashubali is given with rituals,so he goes back to yaksha lok.
Great talk on a very sensitive and important topic by our greatest Bengali tantrik 👏..sir only one thing that others point out is ... MANUSMRITI...WHICH CONDEMNS ANIMAL SACRIFICE...what to do to show them the real idea.. please enlighten me with this sir 🙏🕉️
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Jains & Arya Samaj ganged up and stopped bali
Normal people like us should not give Bali,only people who know real meaning should give Bali 😀
@Ronak Patel Everyone can give bali. But not individually because we are not trained and do not rituallistically purify ourselves. Only the tantra practitioner does it on our behalf. It is common enough throughout India in village festivals and for kuladevi and kuladevtas.
@@madhugreenleaf11 Right. Thats why its called Kaula. Kula is Kaula. Individual is Vama.
Even arya samaj dont believe in idol worshipp.They think that they are living in vedic age and should worship unmanifest god.They also dont believe in temples and puranas.
@@joydhromandal8551 Arya samaj are Brit bootlickers
Rajrishi is talking about Vishnukranta tantras. In Aswakranta, the tantras differ (even in parts of Bangladesh and Asom, south upto the Javanese)
It's Rajarshi ( pronounced : Raa - jor - shee ) not Rajrishi, Rajashri ( which is a feminine name ) whatever...
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In 28.30 who is the vegetarian person who gives bali.
There's no doubt that bali has a very scientific basis and is a powerful metaphysical technology. Having said that, there are other technologies widely available for connecting with and progressing to Divinity. More fundamental to the sciences is compassion and a binary choice - harm/cause pain or not. So while Bali is a powerful tool, there are more fundamental paths where we honour and bring forth the foundational principal of love and kindness instead of resorting to Bali
Please let me know how to contact Rajarshi sir.
Sir how can we contact you. Kindly share
Animal mummies were found alongwith mummies of pharoas in Egyptian pyramids. I dought if this existed in India.
How will I contact u Mr nandi? Really need your help..
Can we see or suppose to see the balli taking place
In our culture after death Bali is given compulsorily and also for pitra puja also Bali is given.
Very sad ,. for those animals
What abt human sacrifice? I would like to know why human sacrifice is practised?
I thing I want to ask is that how and why Devi gets happy with Bali?
You have told it's written in shastra and vidhana, but I want to know is there any reason how Devi being Bali Priya?
That is like asking your gf how she knew you wanted Biriyani when you have specifically told her to bring biriyani.
Yesterday the news came. Back in 2019, Shanti Sau, a 64 year old woman was tricked into and then sacrificed on the steps of Jay Durga temple. A special investigation team was formed to find out the perpetrators. Well, they finally got caught a day back, 5 of them caught and others are still absconding. In HT, the detailed description was given how the act was carried out. Probably whoever read this news, they must have been shaken to the very core. Many says in Kamakhya temple Narabali continued through the 19th century. Even today there happen to be some low key demands to reinstate it. Rajarshi Sir can put across his views best on this topic. 🙏🙏🙏
Tantra bullshit is not part of Hinduism. It's created to oppose Vedic dharma. Tantra isn't part of Vedic Hindu dharma. Yes, Animal sacrifice is sanctioned on Vedas but the tantra practice is not there
In Sanatan dharma, we sacrifice male animals only, whether it's a goat, a pigeon, a lamb, a Buffalo or somewhat like this. Sacrificing females or even eunuchs is considered a grave sin in our dharma, so whoever did this didn't do it to offer a tribute to the mother. They are like goats and should be sacrificed to provide blood to Maa Kamakhya. And FYI, the temple was bono durga mandir, within a few meters of Maa Kamakhya temple.
@rajarshi Nandy...if you are seeing my comment,please create your own youtube channel which can have all the information you have with you..its really amazing to hear things which you tell us but very unfortunate we dont have a dedicated channel.
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It goes by the name Adhyatmikta
@@liliesandtulips2000 thanks a lot .got his channel.
I want to be Rajarshi Student. Is there any way to contact him plz help
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I want to know how to do shiva upasana. Kindly give any link of books for reference. Need clear guidance.
th-cam.com/video/8QrL-4qHdmI/w-d-xo.html check this video. Shiva Upasana is best done with Abhiseka 🙏
How can i contact with nandy sir pls guide me
You can subscribe Rajarshi ji's channel link www.youtube.com/@Adhyatmikta
sir can you please explain why one would choose to worship ugra devatha over soumya devatha please.
He explained that urga devta will give help to project the power outword whereas Soumya devta will give internal power. You can't kill the enemy with mediation could you?
@@gagadonim3354I wonder why the ugra devtas didn't give the Indians power when needed....when the muslims just ran over the temples and broke the idols ,pissed over the deities,raped women in masse ..deity seems to have slept
Some may worship a deity for material gains and desires. But the worship of a specific deity depends on a persons nature. You worship the deity you most connect with and have complete devotion for. An upasaka or sadhaka doesn't worship the deity for any material gains but for devotion and reverence for the deity. If one's kuldevata is a deity of mild nature, one doesn't follow such rules. Krishna, maa laxmi, lord Ram are worshipped in saatvik way.
People need to sacrifice their homes and cars, phones, clothes these days. Too much consumerism.
Pashu bali is necessary, I gave 11 goats bali when I was 18, It is a Part of our culture in the Mountains,
If you take the Paurash out of Dharma then it can easily be attacked, If you don't learn from your History, You'll become History.
Warrior spirit is necessary to Defend when needed.
You think killing animals who can’t defend themselves is a matter of “Paurush” and insinuates warrior spirit in you…. Go Get some Vedic education.
So you are going to gain warrior spirit by killing a defenceless animal
@@Fearless0063 This must be the most idiotic reply I have ever seen in youtube .... Parashuram is considered as prime example of having Shastra with Shaastra, how many Bakras did he sacrificed?..... If the sanatanis also sacrifice bakra the what would be the difference between us the and the Mullahs
@@Fearless0063 keep it up mate, in a world where more and more people are eating chicken because of taste and where they allow millions of goats slaughtered in a single day, it only makes sense to give these people a cold shoulder. Jai Mahasu mahaaraj.
@@Fearless0063 If you want to be delusional... then what can I do
Not sure if I understood correctly, but Brahman, by definition, cannot have a form and therefore it is moot to talk about a temple for Brahman. Also, it is of the nature of SatChitAnand, so how can we say it is unmoved or not reactive, when Chit is its essential aspect? Also, how can its contemplation be limited to Sanyasis, when we have the tradition of Vedanta gurus such as Ramana Maharishi who had disciples from all walks of life?
Sir can u guide me about Vishnu upasana
@Sunny Suresh th-cam.com/video/8QrL-4qHdmI/w-d-xo.html check this video... How to carry out simple anushtana...
Check out his channel www.youtube.com/@Adhyatmikta
Maybe this is obvious, but the deity helping transcend the animal to a rebirth into a higher yoni essentially is a way to short circuit the Karmana of the subject of bali, and as a consequence elevate the upasaka's Karmana. Not sure if this really is the case.
It is ..... Both the giver of bali and the pashu will get higher benefits
Read the shastras you'll get to know
I have heard there’s human sacrifices too
Is that true??
Yupp used to happen in earlier times not anymore....only kings were allowed to do so and the human that is to be sacrificed should not be a Brahmin or Shudra (By Profession, DOnt Think Of Nowadays Caste System)
How can I contact #Rajarshi_Nandi Sir..?
His TH-cam channel link is www.youtube.com/@Adhyatmikta
@@RajeShivrajeThakkar Thank You..! God Blesses You with Abundance and Prosperity..!
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Please do not make very long videos . Talk precise and concise . But explanation is superb . Thank you
Don't watch it if you can't invest time. This should be 3 hrs
Nandyji, can a women read Hanuman Chalisa knowing that Hanumanji is a brahmachari. It is said that he is still there close to this plane and he comes if you prayer and take Lord Ram's name?
This question has been answered by Rajeshwaranandji. Short answer is yes. HC itself says 'Jo yeh padhe Hanuman Chalisa...' , without restricting who can read it.
A woman can read Hanuman chalisa but she should approach Hanuman ji as if he is her son. It is so because he is Akhand brahmachari. You can refer to a talk given by Rohit Arya (Yogi) who is friend of Rajarshi ji.
I believe that diety who Swamy Rajarshi Nandy was speaking about is Pratyangira Devi. The lion headed diety. Cant we give Kooshmanda bali instead of pashubali
If an anukalpa is used, the result is not what is expected. One cannot replace real blood with any other ingredient. Even. In our advanced civilizations, artificial blood has not been made. Nothing can replace the power of real live blood. I hope you get what i am trying to say.
what is kooshmanda?
Rajashri Sir how to reach you for learning on Tantra
Pranam Guruji.. What are the authorised vegetables are recommended instead of pashubali? Please answer.. Namaskar..
I have very very limited knowledge but I heard it from Rajarshi dada himself in a podcast , the vegetables are Sugarcane and 'Chalkumro' a type of pumpkin that grows on people's roof.... I don't know the exact English term.
Sugarcane, Pumpkin, lemon
@@mahaswetaghosh4091 Thank you very much..
@@puranaya403 Thank you very much
Ash gourd
But the rishis in vedanta always talked about knowing the Brahman
Yes, they are also right. Don't confuse them. Vedantic practices are hard and they consider everything as Brahman. You can't be a householder and get spirituality by following vedantic path.
Why does one practise such worships to please Deities? Is it to gain material power or obtain Mukti from cycle of life and death.
In simple terms, genuine practitioners who are not doing any avichara for personal benefit only want communion with the deity. They want the deity to talk to them like a regular person
@@arijitdhar2926 Intentions are noble. But why sacrifice a mute and innocent animal to meet our personal objective ? Why should an all powerful deity require a creature to be killed to be appeased? Frankly it defies logic.
@@sundeepgupta1 because it does not follow your logic. Deities do not follow our definition of morality. And appeasing the deity doesn't have anything to do with personal benefit. The deity reveals gyaan that is beneficial for humanity which is why the kaula parampara is so important. So that this knowledge can be added and passed on to the next generation of upasakas. The goddess is nature herself. Our morality doesn't apply to her at all
@@sundeepgupta1 Just one question….why should you be cagey about offering something to Devi that she likes ? If you don’t want to give it, why question those who wish to do so ?
@@sundeepgupta1tujhe nahi karna to mat kar!!!!
Hum to karenge
Chal nikal
Bali is the tamsik way of doing sadhana..... It's not for satvik people, and satwik way is the supreme way...... And Vishnu is the param satvik God, that's why I consider him supereme....
Om krishnay namh
Om namo narayanaya
So much ego
@@iminthejar
These are facts 😃
Don't mistake facts for ego, or you are a buffoon 😂😂
At 1:11:38
"Eat whatever you feel like, so long as you stay away from things which are banned like beef and all that."- as if cows (and bulls and their calves) are the only animals that feel pain when they are slaughtered.
Sheer HYP0 CRI CY.
You are an atheist. Why do you want to interfere with whats the religious people are doing? It's not illegal
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"You are an atheist. Why do you want to interfere with whats the religious people are doing? It's not illegal"
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Why do theists-Hindus (i.e. SELF-LABELLED Sanatanists), in this case-make it illegal for non-Hindus to eat beef?
Why do Hindus interfere in the food habits of non-Hindus?
At least in this one aspect Hindus' behaviour is THE SAME as that of Muslims interfering in the food habits of non-Muslims.
Eating or not eating is not decided based on whether the animal feels pain. Understand this. Choosing not to eat cow is not because the cow feels pain.
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"Eating or not eating is not decided [...] Choosing not to eat cow is not because the cow feels pain."
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So for Hindus,
compassion towards innocent living beings is NOT the criterion for abstaining from meat (of ANY kind).
I *DO* understand this fully now, even better than when I used to adhere to Hinduism.
In case you are a person who adheres to Hinduism, I must say that it is NICE to see the true colours of Hinduism (i.e. so-called Sanatana Dharma) being revealed by Hindus themselves-this is indeed a WELCOME CHANGE.
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@@ex.hindu.now.atheist actually there are vaishnavaits who don't kill or eat animals out of compassion and other beliefs. Here we follow a different path of hindusim. We offer bali because the deity likes it and we too consume it as food. There is no one book under which hindusim is governed
Is Nara Bali (Human) sacrifice considered highest kind of Bali?
Not necessarily. Only a king can offer Nara Bali during war time. Even then, the bali pashu (human) shouldn't be forced. He should give his life by his own will.
@@ShubhamKumar-cm2zb what about the force inflicted upon non human animal
@@xripz6899 it's the deity's requirement as mentioned. Those who work with that deity got to give it. I tell you what, more people are getting enticed with KFC and starting chicken and egg consumption in the name of protein, why don't you go and scream there in their slaughterhouses called poultry farms first rather than annoying people elsewhere.
@@apotk95 don't compare humans with soomeone whom we address as divine loving compassionate mother
@@xripz6899 your perception of compassion and love is wrong. For economic prosperity countries have to go down the path of consumption based growth- that consumption drives exploitation and destruction of nature at an unprecedented scale, but knowing this would you still not say economic prosperity to be right? Same way the compassion of the divine mother exists just like the rules for her worship do. And since Prosperity is right with exploitation due to consumption same way pashubali is right for the pleasing of the divine mother.
Please make videos in our own language Hindi
Let's plant a tree instead. It's thr need of the hour.
Sir, with due respect I want to know why should a god or goddess will be pleased by taking away life of an innocent animal?? What pleasure does this barbaric act give to a divine entity? It is so confounding. Kindly educate.
Maybe because it’s not a divine entity but an evil one…
Gupta ji aapko nahi pasand to mat kijiye nobody is forcing you
@@gagadonim3354agar pasand na pasand ki baat hai to mujhe to narbali pasand h..kya mai aapki bali de sakta hu ?
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iqtumhara narbali dene ka haq bhi nahi hai...kya tum raja ho aur wo tumhare shatru? Toh bekar ke kutark na karo
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iq try we will see
Audio is so bad. Most Indic channels doesn't have good presentation. Even if one is curious to know more about culture and traditions, the presentation is just off putting. Only one or two Indic channels are good with everything, content and quality.
Why only male animals are sacrificed?
Because killing female animal means finishing the lineage... creation must never be stopped
@@mahaswetaghosh4091 why not male family member
Itnahi hai naa toh Devi ko khudki Bali chadhavo , swarg aur Achha pavitra janma dono milega 😅😄.
Tumhare jaise Shastro ke against kutark karne walo ki baate seriously nahi liya jata
Why female animals are not offered higher yoni
Because female ko maar denge to aage animal kaise paida honge...it's all carefully planned to suit themselves
Because they are not sacrificed at first place.
Please give more knowledge to coman people who wants to walk on spiritual path but cought up in the situation where so called guru use them for their own purposes and ruine the life of the people in the name of bhakti, yoga etc.
Correct
Krishna says in thr Bhagvat gita that even if you offer me water with love and devotion, I will accept it.
That's for krishna not for all gyani baba 🤡
Its about maa kamakhya not krishna read all shastras bro
The Virtue of a Mother of a Human Mother like love care etc and anything Beautiful in this world come from Devine Mother. Not the other way around. So he is wrong in many ways.
You better read Anna Freud to see the depths to which the human parent can exhibit vile characteristics. Love , care? Far from it
@@sinyuv you didn’t understood what I said. You need Kripa of Maa to reproduce as well as to become Good Parent. She is the source of all Daya, maya, Prem, Yash etc. nothing you can achieve without her permission
@@swarupambhattacharjee5296 Maa is everything. It is her power/shakti which sustains the universe. She is the mother of everything. In Sri Chandi, did she not kill all the rakshashas? She can take whatever she wants.
@@kvamsikiranify exactly she shines in every human mother. Even for Moksha you need her permission otherwise can’t leave this world of maya.
I dont think death could be justified with any logic or scriptures
Nonsense. Vedas do not approve violence on animals. Sacrifice of animals for any reasons including for deities is a deviation from the correct path and is condemnable,
Okay now put all that BS up in your a@s
The commentaries by every acharya including Vaishnav acharyas of the vedanta sutra based on those same vedas, all support pashubali
Please go by authentic scriptures and not by commentaries.
No Rishi will recommend animal sacrifice. Next someone will say human sacrifice will please some deity.
We should go only by righteous path. If a deity is not pleased by lack of sacrifice; reject that deity.
Finally look at the eyes of the animal about to be killed!!!
@@bkchandrasekhar6240 don't provide me loopholes provide me proofs not your emotional biases
Thanks for your offer to hear me out. Our civilization expects discussions/ debates with questioning to refine and improve our thought process.
One of the unique pillars of our land is the concept of "Dharma". This concept first espoused in the Vedas has been passed on for thousands of years as a foundation in Upanishads, Epics, Puranas and later by many seers all over India. Ahimsa or non- violence is an integral part of Dharma along with Truth, non- stealing, purity of mind (and body) and control of senses.
"Ahimsa is not causing pain to any living being through the action of one's mind, speech or body". " Ahimsa paramo dharma" is mentioned in Mahabharatha many times.
The Smruti state "Na Himsyat Sarvabhutani" meaning never kill any creature.
Such noble thoughts are unique to the oldest civilization and we should be proud of inheriting such heritage.
Finally, (Himsa) Violence is a consequence of greed, jealousy, anger/rage or a false presumption that you are doing the right thing. Pashubali is due to the last point.
Our scriptures state that one should strive for a higher level for our soul through our actions.
I pray to the Bramhan to transform people involved in Pashubali for the emancipation of their souls. After all, It is human nature to correct one's errors in judgement. Let innocent animals also have peace.
"Sarve bhadrani pashyantu" - Let goodness pervade everywhere
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