NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 - Microtransactions And Grind Edition
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 is slated for earlier this year however it was pushed back to October 16th after a partnership was announced with 2K games. Now that the game is out it's clear what their strategy was here adding microtransactions and a serious grind to get everything without paying actual money. This is a large turn around from the first game that provided cards quickly with no microtransactions.
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Man, i miss when you didn't have to worry about games having Day 1 DLC, Microtrsnsactions, Lootboxes and Season Passes....
Edit: Or Patches, games being unfinished, lack of local multiplayer, content or having to worry about Downloads at all really.
Skyrim master race
Also launch day must download updates.
i also miss when games would release with bugs you couldn't get fixed if you missed the release windows
@@gorkem8680 Even better when games like Skyrim have a game breaking bug day 1 and it still exists. Atronach Stone - Mages Guild 2nd quest - unable to complete. Huh , who would ever try going for the stone that absorbs 50% magic damage and try going to the mage's guild?? I play Bethesda games like crazy but crap like this keeps me from buying their DLC and games new.
well you are happy with fortnite and rocket league you got those for free and you didn't buy any dlc and still don't have to worry about getting updates ALSO FOR FREE XD
Remember when you use to be able to buy a game and unlock rewards and goodies naturally and without additional cost?....man, those were great times.
Pepperidge farms remembers
I remember WHEN US DAMN PEOPLE USED OUR MINDS AND WALLETS. And didn't buy microtransactions
Yeah but games were also much more expensive then. This is a good way of doing it. If you want it for $30 then you can buy it and grind to unlock things, or you can pay $40 and have everything.
Back in the 90s you would have no option but to pay $60 and thats that.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between DLC and microtransactions
@@Codemarla Umm so $80 is not expensive nowadays compared to back then? If anything games are much more expensive now.
Micro transactions are killing video games.
It's making game shittier, not killing. Games have become too big to die out now.
Only specific games, ea games especially so
@@Ozzianman Definitely killing them for me. Gaming isn't fun anymore when you have to watch out for day one intentionally fragmented games. Mind games created with the sole intent to drain more of your cash. I'll pass on this trash just like most of the pointless IP that attempts to emulate this business model.
Debatable
@@solidust573 thats why you just buy games that aren't going to charge you microtransactions like that...
People who buy the microtransactions are at fault
@SSAZU X it doesn't *really* matter if it's free, if somebody spends $200 or even $1000 in microtransactions on a free game doesn't make it ok...
@@sethkauffman9915 *cough* FORTNITE *cough*
Seth Kauffman it does make it ok it’s there money no one forced them to
@@MasterJazz09"Yeah but if it's their money, then it's ok" I see this a lot. The difference here is it impacts everyone. When the CEO at EA makes $32 million in compensation in 2018, and his company and die hard apologists claim this is the only way to stay afloat in the game's industry, then not only is it lying or very poor judgment, but also exploititive of their customers, AKA, you and me. When I see someone spend $1000 on microtransactions, I think, sure, it's not my money, but if it was, I'd rather have donated it to Doctors Without Borders, or another legit, credible, responsible not-for-profit organization or cause. When I see greedy human beings like Andrew Wilson make that kind of money and shoe horn microtransactions into full priced games, I think, huh.. why are their developers paid so little, and why they feel the need to employ lobbyists to bribe politicians, aka lobbying, with money that could go back into their staff or game development.
Point is, no, it's not my money, but I can still have an opinion how others spend their's, and better control my spending for it.
It was dead before it lived
Aborted
Shock.
Surprise.
No one could have see this coming.
These companies are to be avoided. Thank heavens I don't give a care about sports or shooting games. But for those who do -- you NEED to not buy or participate in this. This tat amount to price gouging!
erikholmysti I bought NHL 18 used and the old NHL games for my sports fix
erikholmysti casual gamers are the main costumers
@@rockvault3284 casual gamers don't buy these types of games though
MIcrotransactions stretch to far more than sports and shooting games.
Honestly, due to the backlash 2K received with NBA 2k18, I thought they would pull back the reigns on the microtransactions for 2K19, but considering they responded to the criticism by worsening character building grind, I skipped purchasing 2K19 this year and won't bother with Playgrounds either. I could forgive 2K if they listened and made changes requested from the community regarding how invasive their microtransaction system was in 2k18, but they basically gave critics (like myself) the middle finger and doubled down on this scummy practice. I won't be buying 2K basketball games until they make serious changes to the series that don't involve attempting to milk the consumer for every penny they have.
Were talking about the worst of game companies with 2k, they wont care unless their revenue starts dropping drastically, even then they may just start suing their fans for extra money back.
I don't just blame the developer. I also blame the consumer because a lot of people have accepted these shady practices.
I cussed them out on Twitter. I was going to get this game because I got the other game, but I decided to no longer follow this series because of the micro-transactions. Disgusting shits! They can keep that shit.
D'von Antonio its like ten extra bucks for all characters.. So it's not huge.. Or u can just grind.
@@brrnay nah. That's how they want you to look at it. "It's ONLY $10". Plus they made the grind in the regular game ridiculously time consuming. Most of the single player fun comes from unlocking players, so how fun would it be to have everyone from the start? Nothing to unlock. They can keep that bullshit.
D'von Antonio good call!!!!
@@DvonAntonio 2k is full of shit good call on your part.....now if other people would stop catering to this type of bullshit maybe these publishers would learn
I was Interested in last years game but it was a rushed crap game without online at launch so I skipped it. Now this year I have more reason to skip it. Big Lebron fan here too and NBA fan in general. But glad I’m skipping this shit.
You dont have to buy anything. Just play a Season. After reaching the Playoffs i had enough balls to buy 2 gold packs. After i won the season i got Magic Johnson and about 2000 balls as a reward. 3 gold packs in about 3 hours.I was so lucky to get Michael Jordan and LeBron James in my packs.No offense but maybe you should play more than about 1/2 hour reaching level 2 before making such videos.
No one plays the game, everyones talks. Im sick of reviewers crying about everything.
It’s actually easy to unlock players just by buying Bronze Packs. Increasing your player’s stats and making them diamond helps too. While it does take grinding, aren’t you already playing the game anyway? Reviewers should spend more time with the game before uploading their review.
Leolyon00 word
Years ago: Resident Evil 5 comes out with on disc DLC, a verses mode for $5 bucks. Internet loses it's mind
Today: Full priced game has microtransactions to unlock basic, features, that have been free for years. Which are basically tell a server to edit a text file in your game, effectively cheats and people defend it in comments sections.
What, happened?
nowonmetube, you defend it when you buy into those micro transactions. People stout out how they hate this crap, yet them buy into it. In my eyes, that’s defending it, and they’re hypocrite if they do it.
My family members have done it. My sister spent 50 extra bucks (AUD) on vc point. Called her an idiot cause she reinforcing companies on this this shit.
nowonmetube. Also, what the fuck wrong with you mate? Great way to respond to someone comment.
Very disappointing. Was going to buy this on Switch and now I’m definitely not even going to consider it anymore. Thanks 2K.
you suck anyway I would have kicked your ass
I used to like 2k games but then they got greedy and keep charging us to unlock stuff that are in the game. It's not even DLC.
I hate when companies try too get greedy smh like really was pumped for this GM,Before I seen that wow
Looks like a Smartphone game
No
Lol yea. This will most probably be ported to smartphones as well.
Almost everything on the switch is a mobile phone game
@@in0124 Yeah, all those shovelware type games on the Wii just "evolved" to smartphones. Now the Switch is getting a bunch of shovelware phone games.
It would probably be better as a smartphone game, the microtransations work better there and they'd just have to make it free so everyone downloads it and is open to spending money
Disappointing, loved the first but won’t be getting this
you don't know what you're missing, it's far better
@@DG-vb8up oh boi you must love pay to win
I just paid $7 for it. Totally worth THAT price
And IGN will give it an 8/10
They don't know what number 6 or below is
@@shuntarofurukawa5577 Thats because 2k pays them.
They did
The last one was grind-heavy too. The last one had you pay $10 to unlock the whole roster too.
Not sure why you think that this one is somehow worse.
I remember a few years back I gave my brothers step son a gift card for Microsoft store since he has an Xbox one. My brother said he is happy with that gift because now he can buy players for NBA. I was shocked to hear that a $60 game asks you to pay more for certain players. I was pretty upset I even gave him that gift because it's such a waste of money. Now fast forward and this is the new normal thing in video games.
Because of course it fucking does. It's Take-TwoK, why should I expect anything less?
The moment I found out 2K was publishing it I knew they were going to add microtransactions. I dont think anyone saw this coming.
Dude, you could buy the whole roster in that last game too. You and RGT are overblowing the micro transactions.
Yes you could but 2k made the grind alot worst this year just to make a quick buck.
I bought this game on the switch about a week ago for the sole purpose of playing somethin quick and that good ol 2-4 player couch mode game. Ive been playing it ever since. I like the grind, just like how it was when I was young. Play a season and unlock Dominique Wilson etc. While you play a season you gain points to unlock packs. If you don't like micro transactions don't use the feature.
This game is great every time you level up a player you get 1,5 k .Made 11k in first couple hrs play and got 3 silver and 1 gold pack ,3 legendary and half a dozen epics .Where's the grind ?
Brilliant game I wont be spending a penny and will enjoy every second of working my way thru it ,
True2022 Finally, a great comment that support my reasons on buying this game. Thanks fam
Assassins Creed, DMCV, this paying to avoid grind is not stopping. This is the future of gaming.
2K knows as soon as Switch online gets Double Dribble it is all over for their games.
Stick to NBA Playgrounds 1, people.
Giving 2K money is not worth it.
So basically, it's an extra $10 for the full unlocked game with all characters. That's actually a solid deal for a MTX game. My problem with MTX is they DONT give you an option like that. But I will gladly spend an extra $10 and not have to deal with the nonsense, especially being a $29.99 game ($22.75 with 20% off w/GCU and 5% back w/BBCC)
PSA : Do *NOT* support microtransactions.
Problem is without the game is not playable...
I like buying them
@Emelio : You may have become addicted to them.
@@igounfazed I only buy them when I know what I'm getting
@@EmelioSmoke lol... so do crackheads. jk. But you know what I mean.
Ban lootboxes. Bring back game manuals!
Game manuals are pointless and waste trees
Remember when you bought a game and you got all of the game you bought
Well actually the only time you have to pay for microtransactions in the game is when you need Golden Baller Bucks to get card packs that have clothing and court parts. You earn normal Baller Bucks by playing games (Exhibition, NBA Season, 3-Point Contest, Online Matches). I make an average 1,000 Baller Bucks per games.
Nba2k18 and 19 are made the same way. $60 game but takes 21 hours to grind to an 85 overall myplayer (good enough for online play). Forces you to pay another $50.
In the 90s game companies moved from cartridges to cds because they could fit more of the game in them. Present time look at them now.
A wise man once said, "Fuck this game".
Baller bucks are easy to earn, you dont need to use real world money, you can choose to buy all the characters if you want, OR you could grind and save all your gold points to unlock it. The game is fun and enjoyable with friends
More like NBA Plauge Grounds...
OR
More like NBA PAYgrounds.
Choose your snarky diss 😀
Both mate
@@shuntarofurukawa5577 You ain't wrong xD
You could buy the option to unlock everything in the first game too. The only downside I see is no packs rewarded for a level
Yep that seems to be the biggest issue here. In the first game they would give out packs constantly, it seems 2K may have pointed out that a grind will help sell that fast pass.
@@SpawnWave does championship mode or other modes not reward you with packs like the original did?
Got it for £14.86 on ShopTo.
Fun game, perfect for quick games on the go, especially on the underground.
I don't care about microtransactions, I don't even play online.
But I must say the available roster at the beginning should have included some more players.
2K: *Ladies and Gentlemen...WE GOT EM*
...waiting for Jason.S from Kotaku to defend NBA 2K Microtransactions.
How is a wide open 3 with no contest only 24%? it makes no sense, and it looks like you're timing it in the center too
The only two reasonable options and what I mean by reasonable is getting the game at a good price for what it is, you must buy the game when it’s on a really good sale and then either play a crap ton of it and grind it out or if you get it on a good enough sale and you spend the $10 in virtual currency, it’ll come out to $20 or less because $20 is the max that you should spend on this type of game. It’s a good game except for the micro transactions. As of today late May early June 2022, it’s on sale for less than eight dollars. That’s how I’m getting it because I’m in the mood for some basketball but I’m not willing to spend over $20 max on this game.
I wasn't shocked to learn that 2K decided to add microtransactions to the game.
I WAS VERY SHOCKED to see that the Seattle Supersonics were in there!
#BringThemBack!
This is too bad, I was really thinking about getting it but now I think I'll wait until it goes on sale.
If you play season mode you get a legendary person in the team that you choose and you gets tons of vc. If you haven't played the first one get it and see if you like it but this one is also really good. The grind in this one keeps you playing and you get your money's worth.
So if you pay ten dollars you unlock everything and then there is no more progression in the game?
The thing that sucks is I like having progression. I want to earn and unlock packs. But it’s so difficult in this you are forced to pay $10 and that ruins the progression.
I'm surprised they even added an unlock all for 10 dollars and didn't just make people pay VC to open packs to unlock the roster, well we will probably see that in nba playgrounds 3.
Thanks John
Damn you 2K.
I’m more ok with a buy everything option than if they were trying to make you buy packs over and over like Fifa. I definitely don’t like it, but it’s not as bad as some games
You guys seriousely didn't expect this. Its really no surprise.
Serious question...what is new/different from the 1st game besides micro-transactions?
Everything that 2K touches, it gets killed.
Its not that I defend EA, because I don't but micro transactions in FIFA is more "acceptable" than in this game because FIFA cost much more to produce than this. If 2k has all characters locked and suggest grind or pay...just make the game free to play
Is fifa 19 as bad as this? I was planning to get it on the switch but now I'm not sure.
Such a shame but still something compels me to try this game.. I guess i love street basketball.. Does the switch version have all the online modes of it's bigger cousins (PS4 etc)? IGN gave the PS4 one 8/10.
watching videos of nba street 2 (which I still own but currently don't have a console set up to play it) and it reminded me of the energy and excitement that offers.. I can just tell this doesn't have the "it" factor that Nba Street has.. I might give it a miss.
To be fair. They have a similar model in the first one. All roster pack (10usd). But grinding packs was faster. Which was kinda fun.. A lil reward after leveling up
Well that's decided it for me. I didn't put that much time into the first one because the switch release was handled so badly but this overview has made me want to revisit and give it a second chance, as on the surface there doesn't seem like much of the presentation has changed. Graphics don't seem to have improved much.
The moment they announced the delay we all knew it was to implement greedy transactions. So now you can basically get the first game with a link to the Eshop. Worth the wait...
This is the correct non Mario sport game. Reminds me of fifa street 3 on ps3 which was really fun as well.
Yuck! the switch doesn't need this kinda crap.
This is why I don’t pick up games anymore. I’d rather play the dragonball super card game. Makes sense to actually pay for packs
Greed caused the first crash in the videogame industry, perhaps it is time for a new one to purge all those companies looking for a quick buck.
@referral madness Not anytime soon I guess. But they are slowly ruining their business, products and company names.
What?? U mean 2k made a overly grindy game so they could make u spend real money???
Sounds about right
I'm confused as to why everyone is so upset about microtransactions in a game that you don't have to purchase them in. If you play the game you can earn baller and gold points to unlock packs. Yeah it will take awhile but that's how you keep ppl playing.
Same thing goes with this as with the situation with EA, until people start raising hell about these and stop throwing cash at 2K and these spots titles, this will continue.
It is a little confusing that there's two different currencies for unlocking stuff - basketballs and coins.
Its pretty obvious why they pulled the original one off the market. They knew there was going to be a certain segment of gamers (me) who would go and spite buy the original just because it was more fair. I actually went looking in the Switch store for it. Nope. Not there.
$10 isn't too crazy of a price, but the extreme grind, pretty much forces you into it. Getting a gold pack every 10 or so games would turn me off pretty quick. Getting one every 2 or 3 games, might actually incentivize people to buy in, after they get to sample 10 or 12 players for free in their first few play sessions.
Dang, was thinking of getting after missing the first... but I just can’t support this kind of practice for console games.. :(
I'm still playing the first one. I was thinking about getting Playgrounds 2, but with all this grinding and microtransactions, no way!
Bro I don’t know what u were doing wrong but I’m getting mad balls this is an easy grind. U obviously didn’t give the game enough of a chance lol
I’ll just buy the first one 😉
Switch owners keep buying shit games, then they say “oh why are there so many shit games in the eShop”
I'm pretty disappointed in the path this game went down towards. When the first NBA Playgrounds game came out, I got it on the Switch and was very supportive of it while Saber Interactive was having the issues of trying to get online onto the Switch version.
After that update eventually came out, I started to get some suspicion with Saber because of the lack of updates for NBA Playgrounds after the online update came out (NBA Playgrounds on the Switch still is missing the 3 Point contest mode that was featured on the other consoles). Should also mention something that the updates for Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn were very quiet considering the fact the game was originally scheduled to come out last Fall and that went silent for some time until it was given a release date in 2018. Doesn't help the fact that Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn is an incomplete game seeing as they failed to meet some of the game modes promised in the Indiegogo, like a Co-Op mode, tournament mode and create a fighter as a few examples.
When NBA Playgrounds 2 was announced, I started to lose faith with Saber because of how they're leaving NBA Playgrounds on the Switch especially as an unfinished game due to the fact they rushed its release originally and now wanted more money for a better version of the same game that came out a year prior. Then came the delay and eventually the announcement that 2K was helping with it and you can see where this had lead to today with the microtransactions. I think I will just go back to play NBA Jam: On Fire Edition seeing as that game is a lot more fun to enjoy and don't need to worry about having microtransactions shoved in my face to unlock a player
Tl;dr: Saber Interactive messed up the NBA Playground series ever since it started
Hating in game transactions obviously puts us into the minority. The business model works or they would pull the reigns back. Lets be realistic though, up-selling is a tale as old as time, and a completely legit way to make a fortune. Chevrolet advertises a $22K Camaro knowing that when you show up at the dealership you'll want the $40K RS version.
Just more games I gotta add to my shit list. If it has MTX and it has a retail price, I am not buying it.
how's the season mode? I remember in the first one it was only a few hours long then after that there's nothing to do in the game.
Nice vid Jon(SW). This is very disappointing and a shame and probably a big turn off now with the grindfest n microtransactions, our biggest fear with 2K taking over, so I think I will pass up on this game which is gutting cuz the first game was so much fun.
A shame as it's get the NBA Jam vibe. Just need to understand if you're still interested in buying it that the actual price is $10 higher than the ticket price.
I'm glad companies like Nintendo still exist who make real games
Sony is alright too. And I was really pleased with my Switch last year, all the games I bought were super satisfying. But this year, it's been kinda underwhelming... None of the games they released was worth the 60$ tag, imo. And the online ''services'' , god...
@@lewdpanties oh the online service is bullshit don't get me wrong. But I agree this year was kinda meh with Nintendo, other than Torna the Golden Country I don't remember much happening.
@PleaseDoNothingToTheCook Yea :< And it's sad because they could make Mario Tennis Aces something as good as Mario Kart if they just let you customize your characters with different clothes and rackets to have different stats and different special shots but nope :
I got the first one but I won’t be touching this with a 20 foot barge pole
It’s so easy to win exhibition plus u get so many basketballs when u level up
Almost bought this but saw v bucks and said no thanks
I don't mind microtransactions if the game is free but fuck, games are full retail and they still have the gall to put in microtransactions
This unlock all roster is not available anymore. Now that sucks.
I’ve pulled Jordan and Kobe from a bronze pack so I’m not to sure about the pricing structure
Please do more research than playing 1 exhibition match. I want to know how much currency you earn from Season play because that's the mode people will mostly play offline. I've already seen from other videos that you unlock players from Season mode too so please do more in-depth analysis on the game.
Schantzee RGT 85 played the game for an hour and found it to be pretty grindy.
RGT85 didn’t play season mode either.
I earned about 15600 pts from playing 2-3 exhibition games and 1 season on normal difficulty. That included about 2000 pts for winning the title. It seems to vary from game to game how many pts I earned, anywhere from 150 in a really bad game to close to 1000 for games that I did a lot in. I think you can earn more pts for doing tricks and getting power ups and stuff.
This is disappointing because I really wanted to get into this game. For $30 I thought It was a fair price but good old 2k throws in VC and ruins some of the game.
How are people saying the grind on the original was worse and harder?
I got a pack after nearly every single tortument match. What's so hard about that?
When I heard a newer Switch was coming out, I was more upset that a second version of this game was coming out (I know it makes no sense)... now I’m glad I don’t have to buy a (arguably inferior) sequel to playgrounds 1 :]
I reeeeally hope RDR2's story mode is completely free of microtransactions.
Are you guys REALLY surprised??? After what 2K did in NBA 2K18.... SMH won't get my hard earned money.
You get all the players for an extra 10 dollars it seems...Is that so unreasonable ?
But did you win that match though?
So buy the first one instead?
2K and EA are a cancer on the gaming industry. I've never said that before, but Jason Schreier inspired me. As well as 2K for quite literally infecting this game
I wonder if you can play online 2v2
Yeah I pay $10.00 no big deal the game still fun is up to you if want to grin or pay