It begs noting: A fully manned capped ram is faster than a tuetonic knight-even if it's tuetonic knights manning it. Remember, always travel in style, with ironclad taxis.
Unfortunate that they miss the siege ram upgrade. I know the capped ram is iron clad because of the unique tech but they miss out on style points. Plus I'm sure there's a damage difference between the two.
@@AhaanM there is a fair difference. Iron clad boosts the armor of capped rams so they have positive armor[think it starts at negative three hack armor] but their ram choice is somewhat wanting duento lacking siege rams. However, the main point is that the ram filled with tuetonic knights is faster than the tuetonic knigts themselves, and archer resistance. This allows you to quickly close the gap and get your knights into melee to do their bussiness.
Yup. Obviously not top tier meta, but in the mid tier I play at, its often both fun and effective to send 3, 4 rams stuffed with TKs into my opponents base. Awesome anti building/followed by great avenging anti infantry when the ram is destroyed.
Tbh i don't play them and I forget that research all the time xd. But tbh i don't play a lot of castle oriented civ's. Most games i make one castle for techs and sell the rest of my stone for gold :P
I agree, his use math with the game really puts math into a different perspective for me. Instead of larger sums you get larger eco and a larger army with which to dominate the enemy. 😁 thankyou spirit youre the man bro
When Spirit talked about that quiz on which civ plays best with your strategy, I thought: "Gee, I mostly played Teutons, I wonder if there's a better fit." Took the quiz, got Teutons with an overwhelming margin... ╮(╯▽╰)╭
Teutons make a really good ally in team games because while their comp is very expensive, it's really hard to kill. So if they get going it's just one giant death ball just coming at you and you cannot really do anything about it.
You can shove Teutonics in Medieval APCs (Rams and Towers) which makes them a good deal faster, and also gives a good arrow sponge via the Ram if you're rushing them at Archers. This is also worth noting as the sole use for the Siege Tower.
Oh - and btw a bit historical stuff: The teutons are more designed to the early german state. If you look on history the germans had many problems with invading eastern clans. Like the Magyars. So the germans to that time spend building very very much castles and wall their villages. To avoid getting raided each year.
Of course they would massively buff the Teutons about a year after this re-upload. Now barracks units get +1 armor in castle age and another +1 in imperial age, so they've got some really OP halberdiers now.
@@hahaureadmyname Makes them stronger against Cavalry, so they survive longer, so they can do more of the really high bonusdmg against them. Also better at Trashwars. Helps also really good against Elephants, to negate their trample dmg.
1:15 There's a couple things I'd like to mention here: - The teuton bonus does three things: It increases minimum conversion time by 1 interval (about 1.25 seconds), maximum conversion time by 2 intervals and roughly halves the conversion chance per interval. For the record, the standard values for these are 4-10 intervals with a 25-28% chance (The latter is what I got in testing, though in the data files it seems to be 25 - not sure if the discrepancy is only down to randomness or if there's some extra effect that slightly improves chances for some reason) - Again for the record, faith increases minimum conversion time by 2 intervals, maximum by 4 and lowers the conversion chance to about 9%. - What you said about buildings not being affected by the teuton bonus (1:58) is not correct. It's less noticeable because they take such a long time to convert from the start (15-25 intervals) but both the min/max times as well as the conversion chance are affect. You can e.g. test the min time by having 40 monks convert one building - enough that it will basically always be converted at the minimum interval. For teutons, that's consistenly a second more. However, this doesn't matter much in-game for the same reason you probably missed it - the conversion times are so long that the percentual change isn't very big. So instead of saying buildings are not affected, "not affected in a very relevant way" would be a bit more accurate :P For some additional explanations on these mechanics anyone interested can have a look at www.aoe2sheet.info/knowledge_base.html#monk-mechanics
One thing to note about Ironclad is that it makes your rams basically immune to Chu Ko Nus, which normally hard counter rams. Chu Ko Nu do 0 melee damage with every arrow, meaning they deal an effective 15 extra damage against rams per salvo. With Ironclad that's negated completely.
I have watched the old Teutons overview this morning, thinking how much I would like to see a rework of it. Now, this is a welcome surprise. Keep up the great work!
How it feels like when a Teutonic Knight closes in on you: "Oh? You are approaching me? Instead of running away, you are coming right to me?" ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
Well, I thought Teutons is a top tier tower rush civ. Cheaper farms work wonders for such a scarce-eco strategy. Also, a Persian style TC rush is still a thing on a map like Socotra and Inner Circle.
This video made me realize of something. Spirit does better by giving all-round civ overviews rather than "playthroughs" or "easy way". We can analyze the civ in every aspect and make use of the information Spirit provides us so that we can improve on our matches on that particular civ. Thanks a lot Spirit for showing us the right way to play AoE2!
Always been one of my favorite factions since the olden times. The Teutonic Knight pain train is always hilarious, especially when your opponent has an abundance of cavalry and too few archers.
First off wanna say I love these kinds of videos and am hoping for another aoe game with new civs or changes to cover. Now to the point, I fell in love with the Teutons after playing with them for a match. I’ll admit I am at beginner level aoe, barely beating standard AI under an 1 hour. However I am improving and the Teutons respect my playstyle of choice, building a massive economy, defend, then spend it all on a carefully planned military. I really like the farm discount and bonuses to build my economy faster than other civs that specialize in offense. I hate the quick game and don’t mind taking 20 - 30 minutes to castle age. I still like speed, but prefer to take my time then strike. Well good luck with future uploads and thank you for helping me improve at this really hard game.
Teutons was my favorite civ of all time when I was a child, so this vid hit me in the feels. Now the only thing I feel is the need to see the Overviews of DE's civilizations. (Fall come now!)
I still remember that was 2009 i was playing aoe2 pirated version and my mom caught me ( because I am too afraid to tell me mom ) And now after 10 years I played many games but Aoe2 is still my favourite 😊 and This channel too Because I never won a game playing with hard AI but this channel helped me to win a game against computer And I am very thankful to Spirit of the law Thanks buddy ❤
Well done. A good one, Thanks a lot. Good civilization including a big variety which includes Monks, Halberds, Paladins with bloodlines, Bombard cannons, Hand cannoneers and even extremely rare Siege Onagers.
Thanks. I think it would have been worth mentioning how fighting early, and delaying the enemy castle time makes the farm bonus even better though. Farms are bad because they cost wood, and gathering wood early sucks hard, because there's a cap on villager production, and only 1 upgrade. As teutons, it's always good to hit the opponent hard enough to force him into as late a castle time as possible, to force him onto inefficient farming. The bonus kicks in after local food drys up, and that's not based on how far up the tree everyone is, so if you drag all their food out into units, you have this huge advantage. drushing and killing enemy boar is a very effective method for accentuating their bonus. Have you thought about making a video on tower rushing? I see too many people making towers and then not protecting them with palisades or stone walls. They are cheap, and make such a huge difference. You can wall in your villagers before beginning a tower to protect them from vills and other melee units. There's a whole tactical layer to making forward tower bases and most people dont even know about it.
Spirit, I wish you streamed on Twitch! I would definitely like to watch you play this while somewhat interacting with chat. You seem like the kind of guy that would have a really well put together stream. Anyone else??
SOTL isn't really an active player... super casual at best. He also isn't a huge fan of showing his standard games (see his comments under his road to 1800 series). If you want good gameplay, there are plenty of top players streaming on Twitch :)
@@Naverb I am a very causal player myself. I enjoy his gameplay regardless of skill. I just think it would be cool to see him stream on Twitch and interact with a live audience. Doesn't necessarily have to be competitive. Also, it's another avenue to branch out and show more people how cool this game is and how awesome he is as a content creator. Just my opinion👍🏼
I don't know if I'm remembering correctly, but back in the AoK days, not only did Teutons get +5 range on their Town Centers, but they would also benefit from Fletching and Bodkin Arrow for even more range. Scorpions too, ending up with 11 range with Seige Engineers for civs with Bracer. Gotta love the older days!
I thought Spirit of the Law was going to mention how the Teutons benefit from having Siege Towers because they are great transporters for Teutonic Knights due to their fast speed.
Filling rams with TK is an absolutely amazing strategy, since it counters to some extent archer spam against your slow units who are also made a lot faster.
Really waited for this. This re-overview was really needed. I kinda hoped for a mention of the siege tower taxi for teutonic knights though. Thanks Spotl!
Hey Spirit at 8:49 you stated that the Elite Teutonic Knight's only melee counter is the Elite Cataphract, but by the looks of it you tested it in equal numbers. I'm curious, how do the two fair with equal resources?
Done some testings, the cataphracts still win, though their value seems to skyrocket as the numbers go up. In battles with more than 35-40 units involved, the Teutonic Knights get melted, which shows the stacking strength of trample damage. Finally, I've tried a "post-imp simulation/testing", where I add up the total amount of "trash resources" and then add the gold cost in the mix, as if it was converted via the market at the lowest rate, meaning, 100 "trash res" = 14 gold (or 17 in this case, since both civs get Guilds). This way, the Cats cost around 511 resources (75 gold/0.17 + 70 food) and T.Knights 320 resources (40 gold/0.17 + 85 food. If I use this analogy, and put equal resources, the teutonic knights might win, if the overall numbers on both sides are low. In mass battles (for instance, 30 cats vs 47 knights), the trample damage kicks in heavily, and the byzantine mounted goliaths prevail.
An expensive unit like the Teutonic Knight won't win a battle with equal resources that it lost with equal numbers. The question is, though: why would anyone launch a TK army without any support units? That just shouts for a disaster. You meet 3 Mangonels and you're doomed.
Hey man, I just wanted to tune in and tell you that you got this. I, and many others know you are strong and rock solid. We are here for you. You will kick ass!! Good luck Luis!
Thanks to both of you! Thanks to God my operation for the brain tumor went 10/10 , and I could watch all of SotL videos in that 2 week stay in the hospital! His voice is really soothing.
@@exoduslight Awesome! I am glad the brain surgery went well. I wish you many fortunate and awesome days man. Prayers are in for you. Stay positive and stay strong friendo! :D
I am so excited... My comment got valued... Slavs (Farming updated, grades not given in last one) and Franks (having an unbiased overview 😅😅 after aoestats.io's discovery of their 1vs1 stat)
Instant liked, I've been waiting for the Teutons remake since you have improved dramatically since the first time you made it. Thank you, this is my 2nd favorite civ
So I tried to play as the Teutons for the first time yesterday when I saw this vid off your Patreon, when I have been playing as the Goths for the last week. And HOLY CRAP you were not lying when you said they are slow and “amble” toward their enemies. Because I am such a slow decision maker I just sent so many pointlessly to their deaths because I thought they already made it to their target when they were actually still walking toward them. Was playing against Korean civ and was demolished. 😭✨ #noob
T-Knights in rams? Iirc what is in the ram doesn't matter for the speed boost, so you get a speed boost and protection from ranged, then when the enemy closes to melee SURPRISE!
back in the day (extra town center arrow range), i used to make nothing but peasants, DEVOUR all rock nodes, rush to castle age and power build (like 60+ peasants) town centers just out of range of the enemy. it was surprisingly effective.
There is one thing I would've loved to see mentioned. Garrison rams with Teutonic Knights and suddenly you can deliver your otherwise very slow juggernauts. It's also delightful thing to sit in the room next to your friend and hear the stream of profanity as 60 Teutonic Knights pop out of capped rams in the middle of their base.
I'm so tempted to consider Teutons for my favorite strategy of pikes + gunpowder, but Goths and Byzantines are just so much more cost efficient and flexible.
I would argue that the Teutons deserve an A- for cavalry. The Krush (knight rush) is even more deadly because of basically getting free Faith even before imp. age, which I was hoping you'd bring up in the "Strategies" part of the video. This probably gives the Teutons a strong early-game strategy as well as arguably one of the best Krushes in the game
I will give them a solid C or at best B-. In consideration of all the ages. The "deadly" knight rush can be easily countered with pikes. Even WORSE considering they DON'T have husbandry. so much for efficient raiding/hit and run tactics. Wait till you have camels chasing after you for free hits.
Teutons have a rather unimpressive krush compared to other civs. Their only bonus is the farm bonus. The budget Faith I agree is (in general) huge because it shuts down monks, but every other existing krush counter is super-effective against teutons because they don't have husbandry. I'm okay with with a slightly more positive score for teuton cavs, but not because of a not-so-deadly knight rush.
Teutons don't have as good defenses as Byzantines. You don't want to be falling back to towers with your defenders, you need their mobility to kill the enemy siege that are flattening your buildings. Most players don't research Murder Holes anyway because it doesn't make an impact in a real game (infantry usually don't hack away at a tower continuously and rams are too sturdy anyway). Teutons' only advantage in defense over Byzantines is that their castles are a bit better at sniping enemy artillery, and that their siege have more range.
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It begs noting: A fully manned capped ram is faster than a tuetonic knight-even if it's tuetonic knights manning it. Remember, always travel in style, with ironclad taxis.
Unfortunate that they miss the siege ram upgrade. I know the capped ram is iron clad because of the unique tech but they miss out on style points. Plus I'm sure there's a damage difference between the two.
@@AhaanM there is a fair difference. Iron clad boosts the armor of capped rams so they have positive armor[think it starts at negative three hack armor] but their ram choice is somewhat wanting duento lacking siege rams. However, the main point is that the ram filled with tuetonic knights is faster than the tuetonic knigts themselves, and archer resistance. This allows you to quickly close the gap and get your knights into melee to do their bussiness.
Yup. Obviously not top tier meta, but in the mid tier I play at, its often both fun and effective to send 3, 4 rams stuffed with TKs into my opponents base. Awesome anti building/followed by great avenging anti infantry when the ram is destroyed.
@@OriginalSoulbourne Like putting Terminators in Land Raiders.
Wait I thought this was common knowledge? I always used Teutonic knights in rams as a kid
"In addittion to being the only unit to wear a cape..."
Berserk: Am I joke to you?
And then he goes berserk
Radidahh!
and King
And the woof woof super dog cheat
TK: yes, yes you are.
"I say virtually because it's a video game". I cannot deal with these puns
I actually died.
@@benny7555 who wrote this then?
@@ADCFproductions his ghost
i allways loved the teutons because the teutonic knight looks like a penguin when i was young and they still kinda do
Lmfao
th-cam.com/video/uOFEm90kACA/w-d-xo.html
So I'm not the only one.
I loved them because of their voice lines. I'm german, and they sound like germans with a learning disability.
Ya?
Des Var.
Das ist Soll.
@@momon969 too good.. Hahaha🤣🤣 I'll think of this comment every time I play from now on 😅
Only 1 draw back of getting murder holes for free, whenever I play with another civ, I forget to research that ALL THE TIME.
Tbh i don't play them and I forget that research all the time xd. But tbh i don't play a lot of castle oriented civ's. Most games i make one castle for techs and sell the rest of my stone for gold :P
Well you only need to research it of you are under siege
Who needs Towers when you have GOTH?
I mean there is a reason why you only see murder holes researched in like 5% of pro games or something like that
It's like when you play a lot of Huns in a row and then switch to another civ and forget to build houses.
At 7:21 I noticed the knight taking the Trebuchet shot for his town center.... what a hero
Haha what are the odds of that xd
so they have like teutons of armor...
I see what you did there
Lol
nice
lkcgaming123 teutons of armour = two tons of armour
That joke is teutally not funny
Teutons: _known for having heavy armor_
also Teutons: _never invented bracers_
*Lion rushes Teutonic Knight*
Teuton Knight: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Lol i saw that
Mistakes were made.
Rando Magyar villager: Watch and learn, my friend!
My day gets 10x better when Spirit uploads
How true.
It's fair to assume that today we all 've got a little more resistant to conversion & free Murder holes.
you must live a very sad life then
I agree, his use math with the game really puts math into a different perspective for me. Instead of larger sums you get larger eco and a larger army with which to dominate the enemy. 😁 thankyou spirit youre the man bro
0 x 10 = 0
A redo of my favorite civilization to play as? Thank you so much Spirit, you are doing gods work.
Same!
When Spirit talked about that quiz on which civ plays best with your strategy, I thought: "Gee, I mostly played Teutons, I wonder if there's a better fit."
Took the quiz, got Teutons with an overwhelming margin... ╮(╯▽╰)╭
It's the worst civilization ever
Biggest buff to teutons would be fix to the pathfinding
@@salildeshpande7 Not even close
I have been waiting for this one a long time. Thank you fir finally making this.
*SoTL re-does an old civ review*
A surprise, sure. But a welcome one.
*SotL makes a second civ review for the same civ*
This is getting out of hand. Now, there are _two_ of them!
The Teutonic Knights remind me of the Nazgúl ponderously marching on the Hobbits at Weathertop
Teutons make a really good ally in team games because while their comp is very expensive, it's really hard to kill. So if they get going it's just one giant death ball just coming at you and you cannot really do anything about it.
So excited that Spirit is gonna have a ton of new material to cover this fall with AOE2 DE
You can shove Teutonics in Medieval APCs (Rams and Towers) which makes them a good deal faster, and also gives a good arrow sponge via the Ram if you're rushing them at Archers. This is also worth noting as the sole use for the Siege Tower.
Oh - and btw a bit historical stuff:
The teutons are more designed to the early german state.
If you look on history the germans had many problems with invading eastern clans. Like the Magyars.
So the germans to that time spend building very very much castles and wall their villages. To avoid getting raided each year.
Thats is why they are a defensive civ in the Game that make sense
@@klavier0875 also early mediaeval times. look into the teutonic order... its insane what they did between 1300-1400.
@@klavier0875 early german state would be post 1450
Here in Germany we had many civil wars back then. The castles were also a protection against for example peasant uprisinhs
Wasnt Germany called East Francia back then?And later the holy roman Empire?
Looking forward to the overviews of the new civs as soon as the DE gets released.
not before a remake of the Britons and Huns, the only 2 Civs that do not have the A-F scoring system we love.
Same!
Don't forget the Slavs though. :))
Well +1/(castle) +2(imperial) melee armor for Barracs and Stable units is nice bonus thou,...
Of course they would massively buff the Teutons about a year after this re-upload. Now barracks units get +1 armor in castle age and another +1 in imperial age, so they've got some really OP halberdiers now.
What makes halberdiers having a couple extra armor do for them, exactly? Honest question.
@@hahaureadmyname Makes them stronger against Cavalry, so they survive longer, so they can do more of the really high bonusdmg against them. Also better at Trashwars. Helps also really good against Elephants, to negate their trample dmg.
@@matzematze4397 I just checked. Trample damage ignores armor.
@@hahaureadmyname This only counts for trample dmg from Cataphract and Slaws Inf, not for Elephants.
@@matzematze4397 I see.
1:15 There's a couple things I'd like to mention here:
- The teuton bonus does three things: It increases minimum conversion time by 1 interval (about 1.25 seconds), maximum conversion time by 2 intervals and roughly halves the conversion chance per interval. For the record, the standard values for these are 4-10 intervals with a 25-28% chance (The latter is what I got in testing, though in the data files it seems to be 25 - not sure if the discrepancy is only down to randomness or if there's some extra effect that slightly improves chances for some reason)
- Again for the record, faith increases minimum conversion time by 2 intervals, maximum by 4 and lowers the conversion chance to about 9%.
- What you said about buildings not being affected by the teuton bonus (1:58) is not correct. It's less noticeable because they take such a long time to convert from the start (15-25 intervals) but both the min/max times as well as the conversion chance are affect. You can e.g. test the min time by having 40 monks convert one building - enough that it will basically always be converted at the minimum interval. For teutons, that's consistenly a second more.
However, this doesn't matter much in-game for the same reason you probably missed it - the conversion times are so long that the percentual change isn't very big. So instead of saying buildings are not affected, "not affected in a very relevant way" would be a bit more accurate :P
For some additional explanations on these mechanics anyone interested can have a look at www.aoe2sheet.info/knowledge_base.html#monk-mechanics
Long healing range? I can picture monks just screaming at the distance.
* "Don't worry, the blessing of Jesus will come to you!" *
With a british accent for some reason 😂
Sounds like a Monty python skit
No it's
"Gepriesen sei Jesus Christus, möge er diesen tapferen Ritter beschützen"
@@tada-kun982 Hahahaha. Hiermit bestätige ich das ich der Daumen des Kommentares um eins erhöht wird!
@@HandsomeGamerGuy XD danke
They just walked towards us "MENACINGLY!!"
0:05 this is the notification sound I have for my phone. What a happy coincidence to hear that just before seeing a Teutons overview
Storm Raider that's actually cool as hell
Fuck I was thinking of doing the same thing
One thing to note about Ironclad is that it makes your rams basically immune to Chu Ko Nus, which normally hard counter rams. Chu Ko Nu do 0 melee damage with every arrow, meaning they deal an effective 15 extra damage against rams per salvo. With Ironclad that's negated completely.
I have watched the old Teutons overview this morning, thinking how much I would like to see a rework of it.
Now, this is a welcome surprise. Keep up the great work!
Teutons trush is so underrated. The only civ with feudal towers that can't be countered by towers
How it feels like when a Teutonic Knight closes in on you:
"Oh? You are approaching me? Instead of running away, you are coming right to me?"
ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
You feel safe with your ton of Arbalests when suddenly a full capped ram appears yelling *"ROAD ROLLER DA"*
Teutonic Knight= Jotaro confirmed
@@1stshockarmy Me: "Archers! LOOSE!!"
Teutonics: "Muda muda muDA MUDA MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA... *MUDAAAAAAA!!!"*
*Aztecs joined the game*
AYYAYYAAAYYAAAAAAAAAAA
Well, I thought Teutons is a top tier tower rush civ.
Cheaper farms work wonders for such a scarce-eco strategy.
Also, a Persian style TC rush is still a thing on a map like Socotra and Inner Circle.
I'm so happy that you're going back to remake some of these!
Ahhh....the Teuton Town Centre Rush when the game was first released, had to wait for the expansion for a patch.
"Goth game plan" never gets old no matter how many times I see it.
(explain pls?)
@@SpaceMissile in the intro you can see 2 images that show the goth battle plan, wich is charge like a maniac with huscarles
@@SpaceMissile 1:05
@@matiasclark7840 lmao I see it now
I need to try them
“Average barracks”?
They have the entire champion line, halberdiers, and every blacksmith upgrade. What more could you want?
True
Fr tho
I am guessing he is aiming for some civilisation bonuses that directly target the Barracks, like faster production.
A- is fine, consider the civs with strong bonuses for infantry, like japaneses, aztecs and goths.
No Garland wars.
This video made me realize of something. Spirit does better by giving all-round civ overviews rather than "playthroughs" or "easy way". We can analyze the civ in every aspect and make use of the information Spirit provides us so that we can improve on our matches on that particular civ.
Thanks a lot Spirit for showing us the right way to play AoE2!
Always been one of my favorite factions since the olden times. The Teutonic Knight pain train is always hilarious, especially when your opponent has an abundance of cavalry and too few archers.
I fall asleep to these reviews at least once a week.
Such calming....
I am always waiting to hear, "Hey guys Spirit of the Law here..."
First off wanna say I love these kinds of videos and am hoping for another aoe game with new civs or changes to cover. Now to the point, I fell in love with the Teutons after playing with them for a match. I’ll admit I am at beginner level aoe, barely beating standard AI under an 1 hour. However I am improving and the Teutons respect my playstyle of choice, building a massive economy, defend, then spend it all on a carefully planned military. I really like the farm discount and bonuses to build my economy faster than other civs that specialize in offense. I hate the quick game and don’t mind taking 20 - 30 minutes to castle age. I still like speed, but prefer to take my time then strike. Well good luck with future uploads and thank you for helping me improve at this really hard game.
Tutonic knights the most badass units..... never stop walking till their last breath😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
XD
*_The Leiçiai send their regards._*
This channel has more passion than some if not most of the "popular" channel combined
Spirit uploads
*everyone liked that*
Teutons was my favorite civ of all time when I was a child, so this vid hit me in the feels.
Now the only thing I feel is the need to see the Overviews of DE's civilizations.
(Fall come now!)
I still remember that was 2009 i was playing aoe2 pirated version and my mom caught me ( because I am too afraid to tell me mom )
And now after 10 years I played many games but Aoe2 is still my favourite 😊 and This channel too
Because I never won a game playing with hard AI but this channel helped me to win a game against computer
And I am very thankful to Spirit of the law
Thanks buddy ❤
One does not simply fight a Teutonic Knight.
@Arielle Fenix wait for it
@@najeeb6834 THE MONGOLS!
@@bloodraven2537 *insert mongoltage here*
We're the exception!
@@bloodraven2537 it actually makes sense
A group of mangudai can hit and run
Well done. A good one, Thanks a lot. Good civilization including a big variety which includes Monks, Halberds, Paladins with bloodlines, Bombard cannons, Hand cannoneers and even extremely rare Siege Onagers.
Nice! A rework of some of the old reviews is what I was hoping for!
Fast castle knight rush backed up by Teutonic knights with a nice and close castle drop is a pretty devastating strategy if you can pull it off
Thanks. I think it would have been worth mentioning how fighting early, and delaying the enemy castle time makes the farm bonus even better though. Farms are bad because they cost wood, and gathering wood early sucks hard, because there's a cap on villager production, and only 1 upgrade. As teutons, it's always good to hit the opponent hard enough to force him into as late a castle time as possible, to force him onto inefficient farming. The bonus kicks in after local food drys up, and that's not based on how far up the tree everyone is, so if you drag all their food out into units, you have this huge advantage. drushing and killing enemy boar is a very effective method for accentuating their bonus.
Have you thought about making a video on tower rushing? I see too many people making towers and then not protecting them with palisades or stone walls. They are cheap, and make such a huge difference. You can wall in your villagers before beginning a tower to protect them from vills and other melee units. There's a whole tactical layer to making forward tower bases and most people dont even know about it.
Spirit, I wish you streamed on Twitch! I would definitely like to watch you play this while somewhat interacting with chat. You seem like the kind of guy that would have a really well put together stream. Anyone else??
SOTL isn't really an active player... super casual at best. He also isn't a huge fan of showing his standard games (see his comments under his road to 1800 series). If you want good gameplay, there are plenty of top players streaming on Twitch :)
@@Naverb I am a very causal player myself. I enjoy his gameplay regardless of skill. I just think it would be cool to see him stream on Twitch and interact with a live audience. Doesn't necessarily have to be competitive. Also, it's another avenue to branch out and show more people how cool this game is and how awesome he is as a content creator. Just my opinion👍🏼
The Daut of all civilizations
How to world dominate with Teuton Knights:
1) Buy siege towers
2) Garrison TKs into STs
3) ????
4) Domination!
GGEZ
Mongol Siege Ram or STs are better but they still get wrecked by hand cannons or cataphract
Blitzkrieg intensifies
First I thought this was just the old Teutons overview
I almost had a heart attack when I saw the word 'remake'
Keep these up mr Spirit!
I don't know if I'm remembering correctly, but back in the AoK days, not only did Teutons get +5 range on their Town Centers, but they would also benefit from Fletching and Bodkin Arrow for even more range. Scorpions too, ending up with 11 range with Seige Engineers for civs with Bracer. Gotta love the older days!
Coming Home from a 12-hour-shift this video made my day :)
Thanks, Spirit!
I thought Spirit of the Law was going to mention how the Teutons benefit from having Siege Towers because they are great transporters for Teutonic Knights due to their fast speed.
Filling rams with TK is an absolutely amazing strategy, since it counters to some extent archer spam against your slow units who are also made a lot faster.
Yes but that's a lot of gold to spend :/
The strategy I developed in my first few games was Tutonic Knights in some Siege Towers. Easily beats their low pierce armor and speed.
Really waited for this. This re-overview was really needed.
I kinda hoped for a mention of the siege tower taxi for teutonic knights though.
Thanks Spotl!
Hey Spirit at 8:49 you stated that the Elite Teutonic Knight's only melee counter is the Elite Cataphract, but by the looks of it you tested it in equal numbers. I'm curious, how do the two fair with equal resources?
Done some testings, the cataphracts still win, though their value seems to skyrocket as the numbers go up.
In battles with more than 35-40 units involved, the Teutonic Knights get melted, which shows the stacking strength of trample damage.
Finally, I've tried a "post-imp simulation/testing", where I add up the total amount of "trash resources" and then add the gold cost in the mix, as if it was converted via the market at the lowest rate, meaning, 100 "trash res" = 14 gold (or 17 in this case, since both civs get Guilds). This way, the Cats cost around 511 resources (75 gold/0.17 + 70 food) and T.Knights 320 resources (40 gold/0.17 + 85 food.
If I use this analogy, and put equal resources, the teutonic knights might win, if the overall numbers on both sides are low. In mass battles (for instance, 30 cats vs 47 knights), the trample damage kicks in heavily, and the byzantine mounted goliaths prevail.
An expensive unit like the Teutonic Knight won't win a battle with equal resources that it lost with equal numbers.
The question is, though: why would anyone launch a TK army without any support units? That just shouts for a disaster. You meet 3 Mangonels and you're doomed.
@@leventebardossy5962 the only unit that magonel can hit and run XD
You’ve got to be kidding me, spirit! The wait is over❤️
I don't even play AoE 2.
But i love watching n' listening to your videos anyway
Ikr they are so we'll written
Ive been rewatching all the civ reviews for fifth time and this is a God send
Spirit : re do a civ overview
Me : a surprise sure but a welcome one
Today is rather scary, going to start chemo, but it feels better with a new civ overview.
Hey man, I just wanted to tune in and tell you that you got this. I, and many others know you are strong and rock solid. We are here for you. You will kick ass!! Good luck Luis!
Thanks to both of you! Thanks to God my operation for the brain tumor went 10/10 , and I could watch all of SotL videos in that 2 week stay in the hospital! His voice is really soothing.
@@exoduslight Awesome! I am glad the brain surgery went well. I wish you many fortunate and awesome days man. Prayers are in for you. Stay positive and stay strong friendo! :D
I am so excited... My comment got valued... Slavs (Farming updated, grades not given in last one) and Franks (having an unbiased overview 😅😅 after aoestats.io's discovery of their 1vs1 stat)
I just can't wait until spirit uploads a video
Spirit of the law : Remake of Teutons Overview
*CRUSADE INTENSIFIES*
I love Teutons. Especially their unique unit Teutonic Knight.
Ah there's such a charm to these old Spirit of the Law videos... Wait what?
i love the quality of production of your videos! you are the greatest underrated youtubers!
Teutons review rework?
Alright boys, time for the crusade, to reclaim the holy land.
Do it.
Gott will es! :-D
Instant liked, I've been waiting for the Teutons remake since you have improved dramatically since the first time you made it. Thank you, this is my 2nd favorite civ
Time to drop all my other games and start playing AOE2 again
Same
Dito
Last time I touched age of empires was a little under 20 years ago but there's something about these videos man...
hey SOTL, I took the 'best civ for you' quiz and got the teutons. so, i play a game against japanese, twice, and get hammered, twice. hope ur happy
So I tried to play as the Teutons for the first time yesterday when I saw this vid off your Patreon, when I have been playing as the Goths for the last week. And HOLY CRAP you were not lying when you said they are slow and “amble” toward their enemies. Because I am such a slow decision maker I just sent so many pointlessly to their deaths because I thought they already made it to their target when they were actually still walking toward them. Was playing against Korean civ and was demolished. 😭✨ #noob
T-Knights in rams? Iirc what is in the ram doesn't matter for the speed boost, so you get a speed boost and protection from ranged, then when the enemy closes to melee SURPRISE!
back in the day (extra town center arrow range), i used to make nothing but peasants, DEVOUR all rock nodes, rush to castle age and power build (like 60+ peasants) town centers just out of range of the enemy. it was surprisingly effective.
3:30
"A small civ bonus to pay for salvation"
Teutons old TC bonus gets replaced
" *reality* *is* *often* *dissapointing* "
I consider you the GeneralKidd of this game. That is a compliment of the highest order
Back in AOK, the Teutons were appropriately labelled a Defencive Civilisation. Why the hell are they now an "Infantry Civ"?
How did this age with DE now that cavalry has more armor and Teutonic Knights are even faster?
10:40 I see spirit of the law giving amore to teutonic knights! :)
Love the revisit of the teutonic video
Hey ! Spirit of the law can you make a new Teutons civ review ? The Teutons has changed a lot in Definitive edition.
There is one thing I would've loved to see mentioned. Garrison rams with Teutonic Knights and suddenly you can deliver your otherwise very slow juggernauts. It's also delightful thing to sit in the room next to your friend and hear the stream of profanity as 60 Teutonic Knights pop out of capped rams in the middle of their base.
I wonder if you'll have to redo all of them again with AOE 2 DE
I guess
I hope
I'm so tempted to consider Teutons for my favorite strategy of pikes + gunpowder, but Goths and Byzantines are just so much more cost efficient and flexible.
honestly they should increase the movement speed of Teutonic Knights to make them at least somewhat useful
Teutons are my top fav. civ. since AoE2 was released.
"To the point it's sometimes easy to forget about military at all"
All things in moderation..
I would argue that the Teutons deserve an A- for cavalry. The Krush (knight rush) is even more deadly because of basically getting free Faith even before imp. age, which I was hoping you'd bring up in the "Strategies" part of the video. This probably gives the Teutons a strong early-game strategy as well as arguably one of the best Krushes in the game
I will give them a solid C or at best B-. In consideration of all the ages. The "deadly" knight rush can be easily countered with pikes. Even WORSE considering they DON'T have husbandry. so much for efficient raiding/hit and run tactics. Wait till you have camels chasing after you for free hits.
Teutons have a rather unimpressive krush compared to other civs. Their only bonus is the farm bonus. The budget Faith I agree is (in general) huge because it shuts down monks, but every other existing krush counter is super-effective against teutons because they don't have husbandry. I'm okay with with a slightly more positive score for teuton cavs, but not because of a not-so-deadly knight rush.
Can you make a top 5 defensive civilizations video?
5. Goth
4. Goth
3. Goth
2. Malay
1.GOTH
Why you may ask?, because you don't need walls if you're walls are just Infantry.
I can definitely see Koreans, Portuguese, and even Italians on it. But we all know whose number 1
Cheap Trash unit Byzantine Empire!
@@threeofakind9933 The only wall that Onagers are good against
I don't know the expansions too well, but for the base game:
5. Mayans
4. Koreans
3. Spanish
2. Teutons
1. Byzantines
Yes, please
So I can see my Byzantine bois shine
Finally my new teuton civ overview !!! Been waiting for that one for such a long time. Love on you
Teutons don't have as good defenses as Byzantines. You don't want to be falling back to towers with your defenders, you need their mobility to kill the enemy siege that are flattening your buildings. Most players don't research Murder Holes anyway because it doesn't make an impact in a real game (infantry usually don't hack away at a tower continuously and rams are too sturdy anyway).
Teutons' only advantage in defense over Byzantines is that their castles are a bit better at sniping enemy artillery, and that their siege have more range.
I'm glad you're updating the earlier civ overviews
I want to DONATE to you as a sign of admiration. How can I do this? I am from Vietnam.
he has a patreon for donations
research Paper Money
Hahahaha
This makes me so happy, to see this one redone. I was hoping you would get around to it eventually!
Awesome remastered review
Are the Britons and the Byzantines next?
Britons!!!
@@Забаненный yes!
Byzantines was already complete. Britons are to go, and Huns as well.
@@leventebardossy5962 Byzantines overview is old and obsolete
@@leventebardossy5962 and slavs too.
Fantastic overview with top notch production. Well done sir, keep it up!