I think the fight at 34:40 about waiting for the tank to engage is bang on. He made an assumption that "my reinhardt will play aggressively" instead of waiting to see him play aggressively and then engaging. I think the only reason the reinhardt even did charge in aggressively after the fact is because the tracer kind of baited him into it. This is something I see myself doing when playing flankers too, so not trying to flame :)
definitely imo the best coaching sessions i've seen so far from you spilo. Both you and the one being coached looks like there's lots of knowledge of the game being shown and I can easily relate to certain situations. On top of that, as a tracer main, this is very relevant to me.
I love how much space you give the other person to talk. Really shows you listen. I am a veteran ow1 player (climbed from 1700 to 3300 before I stopped playing in DPS - Cassidy, S76, Tracer, Ashe), I just got into OW2 after all the changes throughout the 2 years of its existence. Contemplating going back to playing ranked... If I do I'll be considering getting lessons from you.
did this person seem argumentative over what the right thing to do was? getting a vibe of, 'hey can you coach me, but also when you tell me what should have happened I'm gonna argue that what I did was right and what you are telling me is not....' It felt a little awkward a few times, compared to other videos I've seen..
I think it's not necessarily argumentative in the sense of opposition, but rather arguing the reason behind their decisionmaking so that it's evident if their thoughts are directly wrong, or if there's nuance to it. Mostly this type of discussion is more explanation for "this is why I have these habits, and to me its logical that I do these plays because of X Y Z reasons. Is that wrong? Is there something I'm overlooking in my reasoning?" -it's generally better having a person argue their reasoning, as it tends to more directly highlight potential flaws in their mindset and understanding of the game, compared to someone who may have a specific reason for what they do, but never mention it and thus risk falling back into old habits because their reasoning was never proved or disproved. But I definitely get what you mean, they did seem to want to argue their own "counterpoint" so to speak, but hopefully they retain the ability to listen and cast aside their own perception, whenever an opposing coaching view is presented to them that challenges that view they've established.
I think the fight at 34:40 about waiting for the tank to engage is bang on. He made an assumption that "my reinhardt will play aggressively" instead of waiting to see him play aggressively and then engaging. I think the only reason the reinhardt even did charge in aggressively after the fact is because the tracer kind of baited him into it. This is something I see myself doing when playing flankers too, so not trying to flame :)
definitely imo the best coaching sessions i've seen so far from you spilo. Both you and the one being coached looks like there's lots of knowledge of the game being shown and I can easily relate to certain situations. On top of that, as a tracer main, this is very relevant to me.
I love how much space you give the other person to talk. Really shows you listen. I am a veteran ow1 player (climbed from 1700 to 3300 before I stopped playing in DPS - Cassidy, S76, Tracer, Ashe), I just got into OW2 after all the changes throughout the 2 years of its existence. Contemplating going back to playing ranked... If I do I'll be considering getting lessons from you.
11:30 godly advice
bro needed that
Couldn’t this guy finish eating before starting the coaching sesh lol
27:27 I could’ve sworn with the hp nerf cass can’t survive pulse bombs even when he rolls
Tracer pulse deals 350 so when he rolls he should be left with 25 hp post hp nerf
Yoo a fellow gold overwatch player+rocket league player. I wonder if they are also champ rl
did this person seem argumentative over what the right thing to do was? getting a vibe of, 'hey can you coach me, but also when you tell me what should have happened I'm gonna argue that what I did was right and what you are telling me is not....' It felt a little awkward a few times, compared to other videos I've seen..
I think it's not necessarily argumentative in the sense of opposition, but rather arguing the reason behind their decisionmaking so that it's evident if their thoughts are directly wrong, or if there's nuance to it.
Mostly this type of discussion is more explanation for "this is why I have these habits, and to me its logical that I do these plays because of X Y Z reasons. Is that wrong? Is there something I'm overlooking in my reasoning?" -it's generally better having a person argue their reasoning, as it tends to more directly highlight potential flaws in their mindset and understanding of the game, compared to someone who may have a specific reason for what they do, but never mention it and thus risk falling back into old habits because their reasoning was never proved or disproved.
But I definitely get what you mean, they did seem to want to argue their own "counterpoint" so to speak, but hopefully they retain the ability to listen and cast aside their own perception, whenever an opposing coaching view is presented to them that challenges that view they've established.
Nah they js seemed like they wanted to say their thought process thru out it, but I get what u mean
It does seem like they don’t want to outright accept advice without some defensiveness. A lot of “I know I know”
@@Real_MisterSirnvm the tracer is right here lmao
you bought lessons and spent so long not using the lesson, man
Unwatchable with this kid eating.
Am i the only one that couldnt hear it throughout the whole thing...
bruh, he paid for the coaching fee, he get to do wat he wants.. its free for yall, take wat u can get.
UNwATchAbLE WiTh TH- shut up and pay for a session then. You literally getting it for free.
U gotta be schizo