@@skeptical_mann1196 It was actually not meant to have guns since it mostly had air to air missiles and bombs to destroy ground targets. and if they had guns it was mostly used for ground targets also
Can you prove that I actually enjoy playing the Swift? That would be wild FTR I don't say that the plane is bad at all: quite the contrary. I just don't enjoy flying it, especially solo (without a competent teammate).
DEFYN lets be honest though spits an average pilot you are an amazing pilot that’s why there’s a discrepancy between opinions because he can’t make the aircraft sing never has been able to
im fairly new to jets but i really like the swift f1. if i mess up i can extend and usually outrun any threats. but totally agree with the gun issue, learning to aim with them has been strangely difficult
Forced a russian tanker of mine from argentina to play britain 1.0-2.7 tanks, needless to say he improved in a short amount of time by learning angling , aiming for weakpoints and using cover. Sadly I can't teach him logical thinking so if he spawned on the wrong side of map from me, he drives all the way to this side losing time and potential tactical advantage because he says he doesn't simply know where to go to be effective in a map.
I'm currrently flying the swift, i sort of like it... you are right about the stock though, I'm a solo player and yep i totally agree.. I am enjoying the experience in it thou and the Meteor F Mk3.. Both make you think and plan more and keep a step ahead of the other players
I personally enjoy the Swift. It's got a decent top speed (1045kph. Stat cards liiiiiiiiiiieeee), it accelerates extremely well, it's good in vertical and horizontal turns with flaps at speeds up to 600kph (it'll start to turn worse with flaps at around 700kph from what I've seen and done), it's guns are decent enough with Air Target belts (laughs in ADENs) and the thing looks good. 9/10. Enjoyed clapping MiG 15s and 17s. Including those annoying 17AS with their afterburners.
Allow me to clarify: The swift is good at 2 things: speed and energy retention. It's bad at turning, and has poor low-speed flight characteristics as well as alright guns (annoying to aim) and an overall extremely rigid playstyle which makes it "good at" one thing: which is being a support plane, whereas the MiG-15bis or venom is way more versatile. Hope that clears things up a bit.
I'd call the roll rate average with boosters so you can duke MiGs for a while but eventually they can just sit behind you. I'd rather be in a meteor or a venom tbh
@@blurairsoft3094 That doesn't mean he likes it though. I dislike the P-47 yet I still fly it and can get 2-4 kills with it in a game. It doesn't mean I enjoy or like it.
I dare to disagree on your opinion. The F1 is a good carry plane in a downtier. It's fast enough to the point where unless you're against a MiG-17 or 15 or La-200, you're out of touch for everything. I can say this with experience. With even 1-3 as long as you're not turnfighting you have to only worry about your ammo and fuel. And when it's spaded even the migs will have difficulties with you. It all works as long as you can see a four digit number next to your speed indicator when you're at ground level at all times.
What I'm pissed off about is and after trying to find material on it so far and not coming across any is that If you have a look at the modifications tree for the swift f7 and say the Mig 21 is that the G-suit for the Mig is 41000 RP for a BR of 10.0, the swift on the other hand which is 8.7!! The G-suit is 78000RP and the starting modifications are 48000!!! what the fuck is this about, I can't honestly wrap my head around the thought process that someone at Gaijin said yeah let's give a Jet 1.3BR lower another 20-30000RP more for EACH modification, FOR EACH modification. Ok, so I'm going to leave this here and try to compose myself so that I do not bash my head repeatedly of my desk.
You didn't mention that you can loose half a wing without noticeable maneuverability loss. Killed wingtips of three of these bastards in a row and one managed to outperform me and shot me down in a high speed turn (>800km/h) I just couldn't get my mig guns at the target, because it was swirling and rolling away without crashing into the ground and I didn't see any difference in the turning circle too.
Its quite easy to fly honestly, i spaded it in no time. As for guns, compare it to hispanos, they are wayy better. Great roll rate, wing rip is the only flaw in my opinion. Cheers
I would take the Venom over this. Still, great planes but just not required at 8.7 when the venom is already there. This has also been added 2 years late in my opinion. What is required is an actual supersonic. Fill the bigger hole first which has existed for 3 patches or so before adding these mid tiers. We are facing f4s and 21s now in something that can't even go mach in a straight line
I’m amazed you don’t like it, so far I’ve had 2 aces in it and a couple of 4 kill games. It’s also my best plane - 79 kills and 35 deaths. Just my type of plane!
To be honest test flight was quite enough for me to to get screw this Im out feeling. Compared to meteors or even vampire this... doesnt feel quite right, I had pretty much almost same feeling with attacker, its just... overpriced sort of not great not terrible fun. Tried to describe it but I find its pretty hard to find correct words about swift.
Emphasis in the title on ‘I’. Don’t hound him for his opinion. Who am I kidding.... so many will and I do it somewhat often anyway (not necessarily WT related)
OMG i'm not the only person who just can't stand the stock guns i was like hmmmmmmm, I thought I was retarded and I just couldn't do it, and I have a lot of hours into the Hunter.
Im going to be 100% with you by saying I completely disagree with you especially with you saying the Mig 15's will basically absolutely maul you as well as it being a plane better in squads. I have 0 problems dealing with Migs, I deal with them by turning with them and then diving, I easily out accelerate them each time, and I only play the swift solo, I see no problem with it and I could even say i would be fine with it even at 8.7, when you say it isnt a good carrying plane I disagree as well, I've had several games where it was me and an ally vs half an enemy team, and we would win
My tip is dont panick with a mig on your 6 take it easy i kill every mig in a dogfight with my swift F1 use your flaps and learn the guns... the guns are great if you can aim good.
I don't know about the F.1, but the F.7 is basically a Hunter F.6 without missiles at 8.7. It's super good against the MiG spam that's going on right now.
@@Spitflyer Outspeed it, out climb it, play against it's roll wait it's the swift F1 not the F7 But still you say MiG21 PFM has great missiles and that the Spitfire mk22 is the best prop in the game, showcasing a full downtier and ganking on distracted people
No I get it The swift takes forever to get up to speed, and when you boom and zoom everyone gets out of the way of your guns When you have someone at your speed or faster than you chasing you down you can’t do anything to shake them off cause you’re flying a brick It doesn’t help that it looks absolutely terrible
Takes ace says dis plane is bad. British finaly has some good low br fighters. This plane should be 8.7. Any other 8.7 planes reaches 1k kph at sea level but this plane can do it at 8.3. Its a nice plane.
I simply can't, sorry Spit but I can't. I agree with what you say in most of your videos but you are so much wrong about Swift F.1 I don't even know where to begin with
I found the swift to be mig food. They always join the furball, and you can just dive on them. What are the they going to do? Cant run, cant turn, cant zoom away from a mig.
I see that you havent played a stock G.91 R/3 yet, in air rb. That thing is a bit worse than the swift when it comes to ammo, you should be grateful that you have 400 cannon ammo instead of 250.
![Swift F.1 - Better Than You Might Remember [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/x176E-tKcHE/mqdefault.jpg)
If it's a british and it's decent, it's bound to go up in BR
sad but true
Franss the Mighty Coffee Addict I don’t mind it as long as they lower the ridiculous repair costs
Still 8.3 :) and my favourite jet in the British tree.
@@AylaP4161 you ll see when you get to the swift f7 how nicer it is
you’d be wrong
Next vid “why I was wrong about the swift f1” then after that is “why the swift f1 is my new favorite plane”
Yup
Next Video: „Why is the Swift‘s tail so ugly?“
Spit hates anything vaguely Hunter shaped confirmed )))
Talking about weird gun positioning
(Cries in F4 Phantom)
Marl the Flan but you can get 3 of them with 4000 rds of ammo
Braden Garland but it’s a spark machine
It’s not supposed to have guns
Caleb W yea it is
@@skeptical_mann1196 It was actually not meant to have guns since it mostly had air to air missiles and bombs to destroy ground targets. and if they had guns it was mostly used for ground targets also
something something the plane is bad something?
Crikey mate you're about to get a rebuttal
Can you prove that I actually enjoy playing the Swift? That would be wild
FTR I don't say that the plane is bad at all: quite the contrary. I just don't enjoy flying it, especially solo (without a competent teammate).
DEFYN lets be honest though spits an average pilot you are an amazing pilot that’s why there’s a discrepancy between opinions because he can’t make the aircraft sing never has been able to
By the same logic all the FW190s are bad at defensive flying lol. This thing has good roll rate use that.
190s can pull more than the swift relative to the competition, plus the flaps are a bigger ace for the 190 than the swift. They're not comparable
I was just joking lol
How dare you say that about my baby
- me when he talked shit on the horten a couple of videos ago
im fairly new to jets but i really like the swift f1. if i mess up i can extend and usually outrun any threats. but totally agree with the gun issue, learning to aim with them has been strangely difficult
Swift is a good buddy for a Meteor (I currently fly G41G - not the best one but still fine) since it pushes MiGs to turn and loose some speed.
Are you going to do a video about the F7 as well? I'd like to see it :)
Yeah when the Fireflash missiles get added to it
@@Spitflyer So in 1.95
Looking forward to it ^^
@@hanz5555 More like 2 years
Spit_flyer when are they going to add the missiles to the Swift?
When downtiered the Swift can outaccelerate DIVING F-84, and sometimes when uptiered it outruns MiGs
Hey, im the mig-15 you killed. Im a noob in that plane and you gave me a leson for free :D thnks buddy, you are an awesome player!
Es un asco colarlo llevo ya tiempo con el y soy medio decente pero aún así como se te coloque un avión rápido a tus 6 estas muerto
Volarlo*
@@miguez97 yo ando sufriendo con el mig 15 la convergencia de cañones que tiene es un asco
Britain is the nation you play to actually get good at the game, ground, air and naval.
Forced a russian tanker of mine from argentina to play britain 1.0-2.7 tanks, needless to say he improved in a short amount of time by learning angling , aiming for weakpoints and using cover. Sadly I can't teach him logical thinking so if he spawned on the wrong side of map from me, he drives all the way to this side losing time and potential tactical advantage because he says he doesn't simply know where to go to be effective in a map.
I'm currrently flying the swift, i sort of like it... you are right about the stock though, I'm a solo player and yep i totally agree.. I am enjoying the experience in it thou and the Meteor F Mk3.. Both make you think and plan more and keep a step ahead of the other players
If it means anything, this jet feels different when flying it with realistic controls on a flight stick. It dog fights quite well.
I personally enjoy the Swift.
It's got a decent top speed (1045kph. Stat cards liiiiiiiiiiieeee), it accelerates extremely well, it's good in vertical and horizontal turns with flaps at speeds up to 600kph (it'll start to turn worse with flaps at around 700kph from what I've seen and done), it's guns are decent enough with Air Target belts (laughs in ADENs) and the thing looks good.
9/10. Enjoyed clapping MiG 15s and 17s. Including those annoying 17AS with their afterburners.
Just figured out the yak 30 is at 8.3 but it was doin so well I didnt even notice
this man literally said everything i felt for in this plane. now i just play it like an assassin with hit and run tactics
I have to admit that this is pretty plane when it comes to appearance
@Ibraheem Khan i didnt know tgat it comes with radar
I disagree with the fact you said the swift is just “good” at everything, it’s speed is stupidly good, it’s not like anything at its BR
Allow me to clarify:
The swift is good at 2 things: speed and energy retention. It's bad at turning, and has poor low-speed flight characteristics as well as alright guns (annoying to aim) and an overall extremely rigid playstyle which makes it "good at" one thing: which is being a support plane, whereas the MiG-15bis or venom is way more versatile. Hope that clears things up a bit.
Umm roll rate is decent too.
I'd call the roll rate average with boosters so you can duke MiGs for a while but eventually they can just sit behind you. I'd rather be in a meteor or a venom tbh
@@Spitflyer you just go into a 30° climb and keep the light rolling to dodge. Not a single thing can out energy you in a climb
La 200*8.0 yak 23 power to weight*
Confirmed: he likes strong flaps
says "I don't life the SWift", gets a 5 kill game
BlurAirsoft exactly lol
he never said its bad, just that he doesnt like it.
@@CrazyDutchguys I am not stating that SpitFlyer said it was bad i am saying on how he dosent like it and yet gets a ace game
@@blurairsoft3094 That doesn't mean he likes it though. I dislike the P-47 yet I still fly it and can get 2-4 kills with it in a game. It doesn't mean I enjoy or like it.
I just got this aircraft and love it
that's some serious heresy right there
I dare to disagree on your opinion. The F1 is a good carry plane in a downtier. It's fast enough to the point where unless you're against a MiG-17 or 15 or La-200, you're out of touch for everything. I can say this with experience. With even 1-3 as long as you're not turnfighting you have to only worry about your ammo and fuel. And when it's spaded even the migs will have difficulties with you. It all works as long as you can see a four digit number next to your speed indicator when you're at ground level at all times.
I'm still not use to these guns. I whiff shots left and right. Its a decent plane though, but I'm I get to move on to the F.7.
Swift F1 is my favorit plane
I'm gonna play this thing solo in tank RB. I don't have a choice.
"Before you string me alive"
Too late :/
Am I hearing this right? The plane being overall balanced is a problem!?
I see that you are doing making it seem bad so the snail doesn’t up it’s BR so smart of you😱
What I'm pissed off about is and after trying to find material on it so far and not coming across any is that If you have a look at the modifications tree for the swift f7 and say the Mig 21 is that the G-suit for the Mig is 41000 RP for a BR of 10.0, the swift on the other hand which is 8.7!! The G-suit is 78000RP and the starting modifications are 48000!!! what the fuck is this about, I can't honestly wrap my head around the thought process that someone at Gaijin said yeah let's give a Jet 1.3BR lower another 20-30000RP more for EACH modification, FOR EACH modification. Ok, so I'm going to leave this here and try to compose myself so that I do not bash my head repeatedly of my desk.
First round, I died by a missile lauch from A4 Skyhawk. Why I'm so bad with this plane.
But it literally has no negatives!
@@mekhane.broken9678 uhh..... wut?
Straight up not having a good time fighting the spam of these with my poor man's mig 9
You didn't mention that you can loose half a wing without noticeable maneuverability loss. Killed wingtips of three of these bastards in a row and one managed to outperform me and shot me down in a high speed turn (>800km/h) I just couldn't get my mig guns at the target, because it was swirling and rolling away without crashing into the ground and I didn't see any difference in the turning circle too.
Its quite easy to fly honestly, i spaded it in no time. As for guns, compare it to hispanos, they are wayy better. Great roll rate, wing rip is the only flaw in my opinion. Cheers
Is it better than the venom? Yes? Then it's good
I like the venom more tbh
I would take the Venom over this. Still, great planes but just not required at 8.7 when the venom is already there. This has also been added 2 years late in my opinion. What is required is an actual supersonic. Fill the bigger hole first which has existed for 3 patches or so before adding these mid tiers. We are facing f4s and 21s now in something that can't even go mach in a straight line
Swift f1 has really good high speed acceleration. It can out run mig17s above 900
i still can't see any video about the G91 R/3. Spit please...
I'll see what I can do but it's mostly a tanks RB plane with 4 nords
@@Spitflyer and this means that it's useless with all the radar spaa
It's not my thing either tbh, It's like a 700 horsepower mini Cooper in Forza 😂
700hp wtf HAHAHAHAHA
@@Spitflyer Bugatti just build a sportcar with 1600PS XD Thats more then most western MBT´s have.
Imma agree with you this plane is speed speed and speed the engine is more suited to a Cruise missile than a plane
I’m amazed you don’t like it, so far I’ve had 2 aces in it and a couple of 4 kill games. It’s also my best plane - 79 kills and 35 deaths. Just my type of plane!
Swift is really easy to play solo Spit
La-15 pilots are having nightmares, i just can't do anything about this guy, or i'm just too bad.
To be honest test flight was quite enough for me to to get screw this Im out feeling. Compared to meteors or even vampire this... doesnt feel quite right, I had pretty much almost same feeling with attacker, its just... overpriced sort of not great not terrible fun. Tried to describe it but I find its pretty hard to find correct words about swift.
A stock swift is a nightmare. Only other thing I can imagine worse is a stock k4, that thing almost made me quit war thunder for good.
Emphasis in the title on ‘I’. Don’t hound him for his opinion.
Who am I kidding.... so many will and I do it somewhat often anyway (not necessarily WT related)
OMG
i'm not the only person who just can't stand the stock guns
i was like hmmmmmmm, I thought I was retarded and I just couldn't do it, and I have a lot of hours into the Hunter.
Hey spit, I'm the one you cursed out after helping shoot you down, love your vids btw!!
am i the only one who would like to see the king of Pepega aka xqc play WT and see him rage over not knowing how to fly or kill a tank
it is so fast cant even out run it in a spaded mig 15bis
Im going to be 100% with you by saying I completely disagree with you especially with you saying the Mig 15's will basically absolutely maul you as well as it being a plane better in squads. I have 0 problems dealing with Migs, I deal with them by turning with them and then diving, I easily out accelerate them each time, and I only play the swift solo, I see no problem with it and I could even say i would be fine with it even at 8.7, when you say it isnt a good carrying plane I disagree as well, I've had several games where it was me and an ally vs half an enemy team, and we would win
I also find it easy to deal with F9F's and other american naval planes, even when I'm in a disadvantaged situation
My tip is dont panick with a mig on your 6 take it easy i kill every mig in a dogfight with my swift F1 use your flaps and learn the guns... the guns are great if you can aim good.
I don't know about the F.1, but the F.7 is basically a Hunter F.6 without missiles at 8.7. It's super good against the MiG spam that's going on right now.
The F7 might get missiles as well.
Jack of all trades master of none type vehicles are best in a squad but I still like em solo
Will you upload your first F4 match?
Video on how you feel on the f 7?
typical from spit flyer: _This plane is shit_ to a seal clubber and _this plane is amazing_ to something that doesn't even perform good.
Could you show me how to beat a MiG-15 in a 1v1 with this plane?
@@Spitflyer Outspeed it, out climb it, play against it's roll wait it's the swift F1 not the F7
But still you say MiG21 PFM has great missiles and that the Spitfire mk22 is the best prop in the game, showcasing a full downtier and ganking on distracted people
Love ur content keep it up
It's solid for mixed but that's about it
Nice flaps
the smoketrails on your cannonshells are so much easier to see than on my game, anyone know what setting this is? ( using air target ammo)
No I get it
The swift takes forever to get up to speed, and when you boom and zoom everyone gets out of the way of your guns
When you have someone at your speed or faster than you chasing you down you can’t do anything to shake them off cause you’re flying a brick
It doesn’t help that it looks absolutely terrible
wow look at me in il-28 collecting points STONKS
At least you can beat planes at your own br
I fucking despise the swift, I spent ages grinding up to it only to find im fighting swarms of mig 21s and yak-38s, I literally stand no chance.
Do a vid on the venom?
Yeah I might have to. It feels really nice atm
@@Spitflyer the sea venom's also performing well for once!
Question for anyone or for Spit: I was grinding and went back to the F6F-5 and was wondering if the hvars are any good at all from experience
bombs are easier and more reliable tbh. The tiny tims are good though in Ground RB
Takes ace says dis plane is bad. British finaly has some good low br fighters. This plane should be 8.7. Any other 8.7 planes reaches 1k kph at sea level but this plane can do it at 8.3. Its a nice plane.
*Tea Drinking Intensifies*
Bro please talk about the Mig 19 drag coefficient bug
It doesn't fit MiG_Flyer to ask for a nerf to his precious MiG-19, even if it is absolutely necessary.
How can i fix wings break due to overload
"why i dont like swift mark 1"
but uses the mark 3 instead
Uhm..... what? Why at this br axis fight axis only and allies fight allies only?
The barougans are good energy fighters make vid on them?
11:42 *Cough cough* CEE ELL 13 *Cough cough*
You should of said guillotine instead and I would not do that any ways
Pls take out the super mystere
My man just seen you upload while i was shitting .insta like!
but swift is love swift is life
its basicly a poor mans hunter
Swift can catch mig 15 bis on climb
Baby Hunter 😂😂😂
You wont even get the dignity of the gallows >:(
Bruh, how can this be accurate when you have 100 ping bruh?
4 videos later: The swift is actually a great aircraft, heres why
is it me or just no one cares that the F4 Phantom getting raped bye the OP Mig19 since the update??
Yeah the swift isn't a really good thing. But what do you think about the new squadron modification for the German Schwalbe?
What new mod?
I fucking hate this plane, bad climb rate, bad turn rate, REALLY bad gun placement, as of right now slow at 8.3
The gun placement is really good and I love it but aside from those marvelous 30mm it's a very difficult plane to use
lol weird gun position?????? wtf f-4 phantom tho
I simply can't, sorry Spit but I can't. I agree with what you say in most of your videos but you are so much wrong about Swift F.1 I don't even know where to begin with
wtf this plane is op,i got a 3.0 k/d with it,it need to be nerfed
Aight
I found the swift to be mig food. They always join the furball, and you can just dive on them. What are the they going to do? Cant run, cant turn, cant zoom away from a mig.
uh, yes they can
Nice
i just got the Swift F1 and i cant hit jack shit with it,. its inaccurate as fuck
I see that you havent played a stock G.91 R/3 yet, in air rb. That thing is a bit worse than the swift when it comes to ammo, you should be grateful that you have 400 cannon ammo instead of 250.
Just like the Banshee, this plane is just MIG food.
Yay!
#patchdayisforbugs
How DARE you have an opinion