Great video! I checked and my current managed switch does not support link aggregation so I just ordered a new one. You're videos have really helped me setup my DS220+ and now I'll have link aggregation set up. All the setup videos and nobody discussed LA, the options, the requirements for the switch to support it. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. You cleared up questions I had about how link aggregation works. I was worried that I did something wrong when I couldn't get better than 1 Gb/sec between the NAS and my computer. Looks like I have it set up correctly.
Thanks, I did this using and ASUS RT-AX88U, my options using DSM 6.2.4 were different, but your explinaiton gave me enough information to choose the correct option. It's great that you go into that extra detail of what is going on
This exactly what i wanted to do to pump my 2gbps ATT fiber service into my ASUS RT-AX88U also. So, i'm glad i can find a cheaper solution then to get that going.
Thanks for this! I couldn't quite figure out whether I needed to enable LAG on both my switch (Netgear) and Synology. Very concise information. Subscribed!
We love your videos as they are very helpful. You have helped guide us so well when dealing with a RAID config. We just purchased a DS1522+ for our office and are excited to implement for video files. The 10gbe expansion is on its way as they have sold out many places already. Looking forward to the speed (we also have 10gbe cards in PC) we hope to use link aggregation as well as 10gbe but not sure if that is possible. PS. You are the master of the morph cut! I barely notice and we are video pros.
Nice, I have the 1522+ myself. I'm also a content creator, photo, video and graphics. From what Synology told me on the phone, we can link aggregate 4 + one 10GBe ports.
@SingularityFM 25 minutes ago I just bought a Synology DS 723+, and I don't have a switch. I followed your instructions but used the automated version for creating a bond and took a chance to implement it by connecting both my Gigabit cables to the router I have from Bell Canada. It seems that everything went fine, and the good news is I didn't get locked out of my NAS ;-) The interesting thing, however, is that my browser auto-refreshed when I implemented the bonding, and now I am getting a warning that connection to the NAS is "not secure" and Chrome is showing the https in red with a strike through. Should I be worried that somehow my NAS is now insecure and "went public" on the entire internet so anyone can highjack it?
Not all Netgear smart managed switches support link aggregation. My core switch is a GS308T which does support it, and it works fine with a Synology NAS. I have two different models of edge switch, one is the GS305E and the other is a PoE switch which I cannot remember the model of. Neither of these supports link aggregation. The ‘E’ switch supports Vlans, QoS, loop detection and can display statistics and do a simple cable test, but not much more. The ‘T’ series switch can do just about anything that you would expect a layer 2 switch to do. It cost be about 40 GBP with a discount, I think it’s about 50 normally. Had it for about six months and no problems with it. No 10Gb, but I don’t need that.
I know this is an old video but I just got the ds220+ and it's a little different. @ the 5:36 area I don't get the choice to select connections. It goes straight to the manual up part, which that part is requesting more info like vlan info etc. I don't have a vlan set up. Not sure how to proceed from here because it won't let you
Thanks for the detailed explanations on all points. I have a DS1815+ and a Ubiquiti 48 port 1gb switch and I was able to get both configured to create the Bond 1 and the IEEE802.3ad Dynamic Link Aggregation. Before I just had 4 - 1gb cables connected to the switch. With both the bonding of the 4 - 1gb ports and setting up the Ubiquiti switch I should see better throughput. Now I am off to see if I am getting the better throughput I expect. thanks again..
@@SpaceRexWill I noticed that you did not set the MTU speed but it was grayed out saying MTU 2000, would you suggest MUT4000 or 5000 or all the way to MTU9000 with four 1gb connects in the Bond? Currently I have it set to MTU 5000 and I am going to do some testing today.
First of all make sure everything that your connection goes through will allow jumbo packets. If there is a single switch that doesn’t it will creat a huge bottle neck (clients don’t all have to have it). If everything can have jumbo I would test it out. I just 9000 (standard for jumbo) and for sequential reads / writes over SMB with my 10 G connection I was getting around 20% faster transfer rates. I think a big part was the SAMBA bottleneck
Active backup mode just trying to think like it SPP or just wait for the link to die to turn the other one on interesting features but I’m a stick with the SMB three
Little mistake its not the "smart managed plus" seires of netgear devices (E on the end) its the "smart managed pro" series of devices (T on the end) that have link aggregation.
@@SpaceRexWill well i bought a GS308E which is a smart managed plus device and it doesnt have the "Switching" tab in its webui that contains the LAG options it only seems to have vlan options product data sheet has "no" next to link aggregation in features www.netgear.com/images/datasheet/switches/GS305E_GS308E_DS.pdf dissapointing because nascompares.com website told me this was one of the cheapest switches with link aggegation which is false.
What happens if we have an existing 24-port switch that does not have Link Aggregation, can we buy a smart switch with this function and connect a NAS to it and connect that new switch to the existing 24-port switch, will we get full functionality or will the connection of the new switch switch with the old one limit everything because they are connected with one gigabit network cable? Computers are connected to that 24 port switch.
I have a new Synology ds224 NAS and exactly the same Netgear GS110EMX but I cannot get the LAG to enable in LACP mode, but when I change type to Static mode it works. Why?
SMB Multichannel is still experimental in SAMBA. You should not use this in a production environment as it has been led to data corruption from mismatched packets
Great Video!, I need to play around with this. What do you do for the IP addresses for each NIC?, Dynamic on all 4 or Static on 3 and one Dynamic? - I'm always concerned with dynamic IPs within the scope of DHCP.
Thanks and easy tutorial, I have Netgear jgs524 and a DS920+ and every setting worked BUT when I connect the second LAN cable, I can connect internaly to the DSM but the DS cant connect to the internet.
Hi @SpaceRex! Something I don't understand is how I am supposed to link my Router, in my case the FRITZ!Box 6690 Cable, with the switch. If my router supports fir instance only 1Gb connection, then I will have a bottleneck from the router side, no?
You described Balance SMB and go on to use and set up the Balance TCP option but the first option (B. SMB) does it require a smart managed switch? Or are there simply no options with unmanaged switches.
I have seen a video from NAS compares / Span dot com where they actually tested a similar setup with a LAG of 4 cables vs single 10Gbe and the results of that were shocking The client only had a 10Gbe NIC and he got close to 400 MBps over the LAG According to your explanation this should not be possible so I am wondering if you could explain how they were able to do that They used a DS2419+ and a Netgear smart switch for this
So as I said in the video this is possible using SMB Multichannel, but it is currently still in dev for linux systems. You can go through terminal and enable the settings, however it is unstable and you can get corrupt data stored in your NAS from this. I would not recommend it for anyone other than to say "hey look its possible" as there is a good chance your data will get corrupt
I tried this on my DS1819+. I have 4 different modes for link aggregation and they have different names. I am running DSM 6.2.4-25556 Which mode is the best? I don't understand the difference except when the switch forces you to make some modes unavailable (since the switch doesn't support link aggregation LACP, for instance).
Balance-TCP - Best, requires your switch to support it though Balance-SLB - is unable to react to changing traffic flows, just puts even connections on each port, second best, does not require anything special on the switch active / backup, used for fail over only, does not speed up many simulations connections
So...impossible to get a 2gbe connection to a single pc? Dual nic cant make it work? What about to a truenas device? Got 40tb of data to copy from old nas to new. 2gbe would cut times in half.
Hey, great video. I would appreciate knowing how to connect my computer/laptop to the network to take full advantage link aggregation. Does that mean that my laptop also needs to have two Ethernet ports?
I've used one of the NETGEAR switches with not good results. Specifically, the NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Smart Switch (GS108T) It worked great initially, but after 3 days it started to shutdown the ports' connectivity (eventhough all green lights were on! Has anybody else experienced this? What switch would you recommend with IEEE 802.3ad capabilities? Thanks!
Weird. You may have just gotten a Lemmon. Of switches I have used net gears tend to be the most reliable. They have rough user interfaces but generally work quite dependably
I have a question that i cannot find... its been a long time since ive been in a house with cat wiring through a house, i'm about to move into a new built house that has the cat wiring throughout the house to wired internet connection. I've never had a router that has port aggregation on it... can i still use the ports that are labeled aggregation as normal ports as long as aggregation is not enabled? Because I would probably need to hook up at least 5 to 6 ports. I'm looking at the Netgear CAX30 nighthawk...
@@SpaceRexWill thank you so much for the reply I really appreciate it because so many people don't reply to questions left on their videos even if the video was posted very recently so again thank you so much
Good Tutorial. What if in "Balance-SLB" mode. How fast of speed if we do two or more Lans in test [without "Dynamic Link Aggregation" set] The maximun speed is 1Gbps or more?
This is a helpful video, so I have an unmanaged switch DGS 1016A, that supports link aggregation but after the setup process I get "Failed To Establish IEEE 802.3 ad connection" under the network status area. Everything still works; I can access the NAS and its content, but I get that message, does that mean link aggregation is not configured? What do you recommend?
I just ordered a DS1621XS+, (6) Synology 8TB drives, and (2) Synology M.2 cache drives. If I install another 10Gb NIC in the PCI Express slot giving me a total or (4) 10Gb NICs, is it possible to setup two different LAGs and then setup load balancing between the two LAGs? Ideally I would like to have two 20Gb LAGs each going to a different UniFi switch. Thanks!
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks man. I wanted to have some fault tolerance between my two core UniFi switches. As the primary user of the system, a LAG really isn’t going to provide any noticeable speed advantages anyway, so I’ll just setup it up for a little balancing without the LAG. Thanks again.
I have SMB enables and configured on my old TS 419 and it works incredibly well all the way through to my PC running windows 11, link aggregation requires so much you really benefit the multi file transfer into multiple machines even on the net work it’s just not worth it it’s just better to throw all the data as fast as you can out and being that you can use Smb3 with normal off-the-shelf switches the benefits and the costTruly make it the way to go because you get the redundancy out of it so where is the problem,
Does the 8 Port switch linked on Amazon (GS308T) support link aggregation? I purchased a different Smart Plus Netgear switch that showed it support LAG (GS108PE) but alias only the 16 Port and up support LAG in this series. Thanks
Purchased and confirmed it does support LAG. The software is more robust and there are many more options available now but got it to work on a new DS1520+ using all four LAN port for a Network Status of 4000 Mbps, Full Duplex, MTU 9000
Awesome video👍 I'm new at this so maybe silly question. Is it possible to have 2 external IP addresses. One that route the traffic through a third party VPN server subscription like "ekspres VPN" and another routing traffic through ISP IP address?
Question. My Synology router (Rt2600) doesn’t do LAN link aggregation. I’m running a mesh network (wireless). I just purchased a Synology NAS with aggregation plus the smart managed Netgear switch. Will it improve things still? Will remote access speeds also be more robust? I only have one computer hard wired but its not a primary. Thanks!
Unless you are saturating the gigabit connection AND have multiple users connected the only thing that this will help is the one case where a cable / port fails
On my NAS I enabled Link Aggregation, I haven't touched my switch but If I removed one cable the NAS keeps on pinging. I don't know though if I am getting any better throughput. If I turn LAG on on the netgear the pings all stop. From my netgear I have Static disabled (LACP) my lag has different options like Hash mode (eg 3 Src/Dest MAC, VLAN, EType, incoming port). Any suggestions?
So there are really two types of link aggregation. "Dynamic" (sometimes named; balance TCP, Active, 802.3ad) and "passive" (synology calls balance SLB). If your switch does not enable Dynamic LACP do the passive one. You will still get failover and better multi user performance (though it does not balance the actual loads) without having to enable it on your switch
Hey, very informative video. Thanks man. But I do have a question here. I connect two NICs to my switch. My switch does not support link aggregation natively. So I had to use Synology's built in "link aggregation". So I bond the two NICs. But the problem is I also have a OpenVPN server running on my Synology NAS. And I need to set port forwarding on my router. Since Synology was connected by two wired connection with different two MAC addresses. The router will have two different MAC address who share a same IP address. So the port forwarding rules, sometimes would fail. And I would have to delete the forwarding in router, check which NIC is connecting to the router, and set up forwarding once again. Do you have any idea to solve this issue. I would prefer not to buy another managed switch that support link aggregation natively. Currently, I'm doing a alternaive solution, is to seperate the IP address. And I manually set one IP to my main working station, the other one to the Backup server. This is tedious. Kinda dodge the problem, but cannot solve that forever. Besides, since the router sometimes confused which MAC address should have the ip. My DDNS server on Synology fail and resume over and over again. Any idea? Appreciate the help if you have any suggestions.
You should be able to setup port forwarding with a specific IP address on your router. Otherwise it might be worth it for you just not to use link aggregation, depending on your needs. I have found that sometimes it is more of a pain then it is worth
Thanks for this vid. It would be completely awesome if you could add some links from which we could get these switches that support 802.3ad. Thanks again.
Is this usable for home use? Like is a switch required? Sorry for the noob question, never had a NAS. My wife will do some video editing, just for home use. The rest will be for backup purposes
What I would do if you don’t want to use a switch is this: (works with 1gbe) th-cam.com/video/2CY-FnQvuEs/w-d-xo.html You could connect both your wife’s computer, your computer and your router (so you still get WiFi) directly to the NAS
Sadly not. Dynamic link aggregation acts just like a GPS. It will always send you down the least busy route. But it will not send packets down two cables going to the same destination at the same time as this could easily get corrupted
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks dear. Netgear GS308T is not available in India. What about TP-Link TL-SG108E V4 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch. www.tp-link.com/in/business-networking/easy-smart-switch/tl-sg108e/#overview Will it work with Synology NAS LAG?
You need at least a “smart managed” switch from Netgear to do dynamic LAG (load balances the connections) (Also some models with smart managed might still not) you could still use the balance SLB with any switch. It will just balance the total number of connections across the two ports (basically every time someone connects to the synology it gives their connection to the port with the fewest connections, not regarding how much traffic)
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks buddy for your help. My concepts are little more clear now. TP-Link TL-SG108E V4 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch has *Static Link Aggregation* as software feature, which I am not sure will work with Synology or not.
This is most likely true unless you have a mesh system that you could have a gigabit connection going to each router. If you have the hardware its not a bad idea to at least enable link failover just in case a port dies your NAS would not skip a beat. Edit: Now that I am thinking about it, if you router supports link aggregation you could get increased performance if you find yourself connecting remotely back to your Synology as you would basically have one lane for your web traffic and one lan for you Wifi a lot of 5GHz routers actually have throughput greater than 1 Gb/t if you also combine in the 2.4 GHz range
Thank you for the easy follow video but I need help even further. Ive brought a Terramaster F5-421 and Xyxel GS1900-10hp and followed your video but soon as I turn on LACP on Switch My TNAS -PC cannot find any i.p address to login into. Any ideas . Thanks again
@@SpaceRexWill thanks for getting back to me. I did the Terramaster first then the switch . I tired after I reset everything by switching them off and tired the switch first then the NAS , same nothing again.
@@SpaceRexWillSorry for the late reply. I did the switch first and I cannot see the Nas or cannot log into the switch default ip address until i remove the network cables from NAS into the switch.
Great video! I checked and my current managed switch does not support link aggregation so I just ordered a new one. You're videos have really helped me setup my DS220+ and now I'll have link aggregation set up. All the setup videos and nobody discussed LA, the options, the requirements for the switch to support it. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. You cleared up questions I had about how link aggregation works. I was worried that I did something wrong when I couldn't get better than 1 Gb/sec between the NAS and my computer. Looks like I have it set up correctly.
Incredible explanation! Thank you
Thanks, I did this using and ASUS RT-AX88U, my options using DSM 6.2.4 were different, but your explinaiton gave me enough information to choose the correct option. It's great that you go into that extra detail of what is going on
This exactly what i wanted to do to pump my 2gbps ATT fiber service into my ASUS RT-AX88U also. So, i'm glad i can find a cheaper solution then to get that going.
Big help with my LAG. Thanks!
Thanks for this! I couldn't quite figure out whether I needed to enable LAG on both my switch (Netgear) and Synology. Very concise information. Subscribed!
Glad it was helpful!
But the speed dropped from 108Mb/s to 23MB/s - did it go back up to 100 Mb/s?
We love your videos as they are very helpful. You have helped guide us so well when dealing with a RAID config. We just purchased a DS1522+ for our office and are excited to implement for video files. The 10gbe expansion is on its way as they have sold out many places already. Looking forward to the speed (we also have 10gbe cards in PC) we hope to use link aggregation as well as 10gbe but not sure if that is possible. PS. You are the master of the morph cut! I barely notice and we are video pros.
Nice, I have the 1522+ myself. I'm also a content creator, photo, video and graphics.
From what Synology told me on the phone, we can link aggregate 4 + one 10GBe ports.
@SingularityFM
25 minutes ago
I just bought a Synology DS 723+, and I don't have a switch. I followed your instructions but used the automated version for creating a bond and took a chance to implement it by connecting both my Gigabit cables to the router I have from Bell Canada.
It seems that everything went fine, and the good news is I didn't get locked out of my NAS ;-) The interesting thing, however, is that my browser auto-refreshed when I implemented the bonding, and now I am getting a warning that connection to the NAS is "not secure" and Chrome is showing the https in red with a strike through.
Should I be worried that somehow my NAS is now insecure and "went public" on the entire internet so anyone can highjack it?
Does that Netgear switch support IEEE 802.3ad for the Synology DS1520+?
Not all Netgear smart managed switches support link aggregation. My core switch is a GS308T which does support it, and it works fine with a Synology NAS. I have two different models of edge switch, one is the GS305E and the other is a PoE switch which I cannot remember the model of. Neither of these supports link aggregation. The ‘E’ switch supports Vlans, QoS, loop detection and can display statistics and do a simple cable test, but not much more. The ‘T’ series switch can do just about anything that you would expect a layer 2 switch to do. It cost be about 40 GBP with a discount, I think it’s about 50 normally. Had it for about six months and no problems with it. No 10Gb, but I don’t need that.
I know this is an old video but I just got the ds220+ and it's a little different. @ the 5:36 area I don't get the choice to select connections. It goes straight to the manual up part, which that part is requesting more info like vlan info etc. I don't have a vlan set up. Not sure how to proceed from here because it won't let you
Thanks for the detailed explanations on all points. I have a DS1815+ and a Ubiquiti 48 port 1gb switch and I was able to get both configured to create the Bond 1 and the IEEE802.3ad Dynamic Link Aggregation. Before I just had 4 - 1gb cables connected to the switch. With both the bonding of the 4 - 1gb ports and setting up the Ubiquiti switch I should see better throughput. Now I am off to see if I am getting the better throughput I expect. thanks again..
It’s going to help a ton if you have multiple people trying to connect! Another thing to check out is jumbo packets
@@SpaceRexWill I noticed that you did not set the MTU speed but it was grayed out saying MTU 2000, would you suggest MUT4000 or 5000 or all the way to MTU9000 with four 1gb connects in the Bond? Currently I have it set to MTU 5000 and I am going to do some testing today.
First of all make sure everything that your connection goes through will allow jumbo packets. If there is a single switch that doesn’t it will creat a huge bottle neck (clients don’t all have to have it). If everything can have jumbo I would test it out. I just 9000 (standard for jumbo) and for sequential reads / writes over SMB with my 10 G connection I was getting around 20% faster transfer rates. I think a big part was the SAMBA bottleneck
@@SpaceRexWill I just set the bond 1 to MTU 9000 and will try it out. thanks for the quick reply.
Awesome.. Exactly what I needed to take the advantage of Link aggregation. And what it is. I am subscribed to your channel. Thank You. 🙏
Glad you like the content!
Active backup mode just trying to think like it SPP or just wait for the link to die to turn the other one on interesting features but I’m a stick with the SMB three
Thanks for this video! Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Little mistake its not the "smart managed plus" seires of netgear devices (E on the end) its the "smart managed pro" series of devices (T on the end) that have link aggregation.
The smart managed plus switches with at least 8 ports support LACP
@@SpaceRexWill well i bought a GS308E which is a smart managed plus device and it doesnt have the "Switching" tab in its webui that contains the LAG options it only seems to have vlan options product data sheet has "no" next to link aggregation in features www.netgear.com/images/datasheet/switches/GS305E_GS308E_DS.pdf dissapointing because nascompares.com website told me this was one of the cheapest switches with link aggegation which is false.
Awesome vid bro
What happens if we have an existing 24-port switch that does not have Link Aggregation, can we buy a smart switch with this function and connect a NAS to it and connect that new switch to the existing 24-port switch, will we get full functionality or will the connection of the new switch switch with the old one limit everything because they are connected with one gigabit network cable? Computers are connected to that 24 port switch.
I have a new Synology ds224 NAS and exactly the same Netgear GS110EMX but I cannot get the LAG to enable in LACP mode, but when I change type to Static mode it works. Why?
FYI Synology does support SMB Multichannel, you just need to enable it in smb.conf
SMB Multichannel is still experimental in SAMBA. You should not use this in a production environment as it has been led to data corruption from mismatched packets
Do link aggregate doubt the speed if we disconnect lapto?
Great Video!, I need to play around with this. What do you do for the IP addresses for each NIC?, Dynamic on all 4 or Static on 3 and one Dynamic? - I'm always concerned with dynamic IPs within the scope of DHCP.
So once you use LAG (any of them) you only get a single IP per bond
@@SpaceRexWill But the IP is best used as static and outside of the DHCP Scope?
Thanks and easy tutorial, I have Netgear jgs524 and a DS920+ and every setting worked BUT when I connect the second LAN cable, I can connect internaly to the DSM but the DS cant connect to the internet.
Cheapest managed switch compatible with DS1019+ ?
Need to do link aggregation
Hi @SpaceRex! Something I don't understand is how I am supposed to link my Router, in my case the FRITZ!Box 6690 Cable, with the switch. If my router supports fir instance only 1Gb connection, then I will have a bottleneck from the router side, no?
You described Balance SMB and go on to use and set up the Balance TCP option but the first option (B. SMB) does it require a smart managed switch? Or are there simply no options with unmanaged switches.
What do you do if you apply Dynamic Link Agg and realized your switch is Unmanaged, loosing connection to the Synology? Hit the Synology Reset button?
Just plug in one port and it should hopefully work
I have seen a video from NAS compares / Span dot com where they actually tested a similar setup with a LAG of 4 cables vs single 10Gbe and the results of that were shocking
The client only had a 10Gbe NIC and he got close to 400 MBps over the LAG
According to your explanation this should not be possible so I am wondering if you could explain how they were able to do that
They used a DS2419+ and a Netgear smart switch for this
So as I said in the video this is possible using SMB Multichannel, but it is currently still in dev for linux systems. You can go through terminal and enable the settings, however it is unstable and you can get corrupt data stored in your NAS from this. I would not recommend it for anyone other than to say "hey look its possible" as there is a good chance your data will get corrupt
I tried this on my DS1819+. I have 4 different modes for link aggregation and they have different names.
I am running DSM 6.2.4-25556
Which mode is the best? I don't understand the difference except when the switch forces you to make some modes unavailable (since the switch doesn't support link aggregation LACP, for instance).
Balance-TCP - Best, requires your switch to support it though
Balance-SLB - is unable to react to changing traffic flows, just puts even connections on each port, second best, does not require anything special on the switch
active / backup, used for fail over only, does not speed up many simulations connections
What would be my IP address to fill in? Where do i find it?
So...impossible to get a 2gbe connection to a single pc? Dual nic cant make it work?
What about to a truenas device?
Got 40tb of data to copy from old nas to new. 2gbe would cut times in half.
Can you set up LAG with unmanaged switch @spacerex?
You can do the passive lag, not active.
Thanks mate.
You're welcome!
Should i copy 1 file with SMB to Laptop over Wifi 6 4800mbps with real copy speed is over 200mb/s?
WiFi always slows your network speed
Hey, great video. I would appreciate knowing how to connect my computer/laptop to the network to take full advantage link aggregation. Does that mean that my laptop also needs to have two Ethernet ports?
You cannot get faster than 1GbE using LACP to a SINGLE computer. You would only get the speeds if you had 2 computers accessing the NAS
I've used one of the NETGEAR switches with not good results. Specifically, the NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Smart Switch (GS108T) It worked great initially, but after 3 days it started to shutdown the ports' connectivity (eventhough all green lights were on! Has anybody else experienced this? What switch would you recommend with IEEE 802.3ad capabilities? Thanks!
Weird. You may have just gotten a Lemmon. Of switches I have used net gears tend to be the most reliable. They have rough user interfaces but generally work quite dependably
I was hoping you would talk about VLANs and how to configure them on Synology
I have a question that i cannot find... its been a long time since ive been in a house with cat wiring through a house, i'm about to move into a new built house that has the cat wiring throughout the house to wired internet connection. I've never had a router that has port aggregation on it... can i still use the ports that are labeled aggregation as normal ports as long as aggregation is not enabled? Because I would probably need to hook up at least 5 to 6 ports. I'm looking at the Netgear CAX30 nighthawk...
Yes completely! This is just an extra feature that you can enable if you really need extra speed when you have a bunch of users connecting.
@@SpaceRexWill thank you so much for the reply I really appreciate it because so many people don't reply to questions left on their videos even if the video was posted very recently so again thank you so much
Good Tutorial.
What if in "Balance-SLB" mode. How fast of speed if we do two or more Lans in test [without "Dynamic Link Aggregation" set]
The maximun speed is 1Gbps or more?
So you need a modem that supports link aggregation, or will managed smart switch be enough?
Switch is all you need!
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you. I picked up GS308T from Netgear. It was in your description. Hope the transferring speeds get a bit better.
This is a helpful video, so I have an unmanaged switch DGS 1016A, that supports link aggregation but after the setup process I get "Failed To Establish IEEE 802.3 ad connection" under the network status area. Everything still works; I can access the NAS and its content, but I get that message, does that mean link aggregation is not configured? What do you recommend?
Hello, Thank you for this video, but i have a question, could we make that with 4 lan ports?
Yes completely! The standard allows for up to 8 cables to be connected, though do check your switch as some of them have lower than this
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks a lot.
Can you use link aggregaron with any switch?
I just ordered a DS1621XS+, (6) Synology 8TB drives, and (2) Synology M.2 cache drives. If I install another 10Gb NIC in the PCI Express slot giving me a total or (4) 10Gb NICs, is it possible to setup two different LAGs and then setup load balancing between the two LAGs? Ideally I would like to have two 20Gb LAGs each going to a different UniFi switch. Thanks!
Hmmm I don’t think so. You could do a single bond with all 4 (using passive aggregation) or LACP on two different subnets
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks man. I wanted to have some fault tolerance between my two core UniFi switches. As the primary user of the system, a LAG really isn’t going to provide any noticeable speed advantages anyway, so I’ll just setup it up for a little balancing without the LAG. Thanks again.
I have SMB enables and configured on my old TS 419 and it works incredibly well all the way through to my PC running windows 11, link aggregation requires so much you really benefit the multi file transfer into multiple machines even on the net work it’s just not worth it it’s just better to throw all the data as fast as you can out and being that you can use Smb3 with normal off-the-shelf switches the benefits and the costTruly make it the way to go because you get the redundancy out of it so where is the problem,
Does the 8 Port switch linked on Amazon (GS308T) support link aggregation? I purchased a different Smart Plus Netgear switch that showed it support LAG (GS108PE) but alias only the 16 Port and up support LAG in this series. Thanks
Purchased and confirmed it does support LAG. The software is more robust and there are many more options available now but got it to work on a new DS1520+ using all four LAN port for a Network Status of 4000 Mbps, Full Duplex, MTU 9000
Awesome video👍 I'm new at this so maybe silly question. Is it possible to have 2 external IP addresses. One that route the traffic through a third party VPN server subscription like "ekspres VPN" and another routing traffic through ISP IP address?
There is no way to do this through DSM
When there is a Synology NAS connected to the switch by two 1GBit aggregated links and one PC with 10GBit, can these two devices communicate in 2GBit?
Any single device will only be able to get 1 Gbit so no
Question. My Synology router (Rt2600) doesn’t do LAN link aggregation. I’m running a mesh network (wireless). I just purchased a Synology NAS with aggregation plus the smart managed Netgear switch. Will it improve things still? Will remote access speeds also be more robust? I only have one computer hard wired but its not a primary. Thanks!
Unless you are saturating the gigabit connection AND have multiple users connected the only thing that this will help is the one case where a cable / port fails
SpaceRex Even with remote connections/big file downloads remote?
You would need really fast internet (gigabit) and be working on the NAS locally to really see any difference
On my NAS I enabled Link Aggregation, I haven't touched my switch but If I removed one cable the NAS keeps on pinging. I don't know though if I am getting any better throughput. If I turn LAG on on the netgear the pings all stop. From my netgear I have Static disabled (LACP) my lag has different options like Hash mode (eg 3 Src/Dest MAC, VLAN, EType, incoming port). Any suggestions?
So there are really two types of link aggregation. "Dynamic" (sometimes named; balance TCP, Active, 802.3ad) and "passive" (synology calls balance SLB). If your switch does not enable Dynamic LACP do the passive one. You will still get failover and better multi user performance (though it does not balance the actual loads) without having to enable it on your switch
Hey, very informative video. Thanks man. But I do have a question here. I connect two NICs to my switch. My switch does not support link aggregation natively. So I had to use Synology's built in "link aggregation". So I bond the two NICs. But the problem is I also have a OpenVPN server running on my Synology NAS. And I need to set port forwarding on my router. Since Synology was connected by two wired connection with different two MAC addresses. The router will have two different MAC address who share a same IP address. So the port forwarding rules, sometimes would fail. And I would have to delete the forwarding in router, check which NIC is connecting to the router, and set up forwarding once again. Do you have any idea to solve this issue. I would prefer not to buy another managed switch that support link aggregation natively. Currently, I'm doing a alternaive solution, is to seperate the IP address. And I manually set one IP to my main working station, the other one to the Backup server. This is tedious. Kinda dodge the problem, but cannot solve that forever. Besides, since the router sometimes confused which MAC address should have the ip. My DDNS server on Synology fail and resume over and over again. Any idea? Appreciate the help if you have any suggestions.
You should be able to setup port forwarding with a specific IP address on your router.
Otherwise it might be worth it for you just not to use link aggregation, depending on your needs. I have found that sometimes it is more of a pain then it is worth
@@SpaceRexWill thank you. Is there a way or is there a router that allows me to setup port forwarding using ip address plus MAC address?
Thanks for this vid. It would be completely awesome if you could add some links from which we could get these switches that support 802.3ad. Thanks again.
Is this usable for home use? Like is a switch required? Sorry for the noob question, never had a NAS. My wife will do some video editing, just for home use. The rest will be for backup purposes
What I would do if you don’t want to use a switch is this: (works with 1gbe) th-cam.com/video/2CY-FnQvuEs/w-d-xo.html
You could connect both your wife’s computer, your computer and your router (so you still get WiFi) directly to the NAS
Would it help if the PC was connected over 10GB LAN to the switch, or would that not profit from this?
Sadly not. Dynamic link aggregation acts just like a GPS. It will always send you down the least busy route. But it will not send packets down two cables going to the same destination at the same time as this could easily get corrupted
Great video, thank you. Will we be able to bond all 4 network interface for a link aggregation?, instead of 2
Yes! You can generally do up to 8 I believe based on the standard
Thank you 🙏
Hey I am planning to buy DS 918+. Can you suggest economic 8 port Link aggregation switch without POE? I am tight on budget.
Thanks.
Looks like probably the best bet is this: amzn.to/2XlGodv though if anyone else has a better one let me know!
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Thanks dear. Netgear GS308T is not available in India.
What about TP-Link TL-SG108E V4 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch.
www.tp-link.com/in/business-networking/easy-smart-switch/tl-sg108e/#overview
Will it work with Synology NAS LAG?
You need at least a “smart managed” switch from Netgear to do dynamic LAG (load balances the connections) (Also some models with smart managed might still not) you could still use the balance SLB with any switch. It will just balance the total number of connections across the two ports (basically every time someone connects to the synology it gives their connection to the port with the fewest connections, not regarding how much traffic)
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Thanks buddy for your help. My concepts are little more clear now. TP-Link TL-SG108E V4 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch has *Static Link Aggregation* as software feature, which I am not sure will work with Synology or not.
Love your videos! Would love to see you make video on virtual machine manager installing windows 10
Haha well I would love to do that too, but windows licenses are SO expensive!
@@SpaceRexWill Ebay. 5-15$ a pro key. That is how I do my VMs
Thank you sir.
Great video. I have an 1817+ but all my client connections are over wifi via my router and gigabit switch so i assume I wouldn't gain from this?
This is most likely true unless you have a mesh system that you could have a gigabit connection going to each router.
If you have the hardware its not a bad idea to at least enable link failover just in case a port dies your NAS would not skip a beat.
Edit: Now that I am thinking about it, if you router supports link aggregation you could get increased performance if you find yourself connecting remotely back to your Synology as you would basically have one lane for your web traffic and one lan for you Wifi a lot of 5GHz routers actually have throughput greater than 1 Gb/t if you also combine in the 2.4 GHz range
Thank you for the easy follow video but I need help even further. Ive brought a Terramaster F5-421 and Xyxel GS1900-10hp and followed your video but soon as I turn on LACP on Switch My TNAS -PC cannot find any i.p address to login into. Any ideas . Thanks again
Which did you do first enable it in DSM or your switch? It is a little finicky sometimes
@@SpaceRexWill thanks for getting back to me. I did the Terramaster first then the switch . I tired after I reset everything by switching them off and tired the switch first then the NAS , same nothing again.
Try having only one cable plugged in but set up dynamic link agg on both ports.
@@SpaceRexWill OK will do and I will let you know. Once again thank you
@@SpaceRexWillSorry for the late reply. I did the switch first and I cannot see the Nas or cannot log into the switch default ip address until i remove the network cables from NAS into the switch.
thank you!
none of your equipment links link to any of the network equipment you are talking about in your video.
This was the switch I was using th-cam.com/video/SrsrFW9AFgs/w-d-xo.html
you are super.
Hey thanks!
I was expecting you to rip the cord out bro 8:38.
Sorry to disappoint 😂
USB 3.0 on NAS with USB-Networkadapter give you 5Gbit/s
I have been meaning to make a video on this, but the comparability is fuzzy. What mode do you have working?
@@SpaceRexWill you need to install a special driverpack. Just google this
0:50 omg, is this editing on purpose?
9:34 I really think that person on screen is a fake man, his voice sounds abnormal in some way as well.
“apparatuses” :)
I don't know why I am watching this. My cheap Synology has 1 port.
Your up-talking is very irritating.