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I appreciate that you’re a knife junkie who’s jazzed about playing with new knives and NOT an “expert” who’s just trying to sell me junk. Keep on keeping on, man.
I got into knives about 4 months ago and was immediately drawn to your content because of the quality and you come across as an extremely genuine person who cares about his followers. Same case in your livestreams. Keep up the fantastic job and I'm sure you (and Neeves) will continue to kick ass in 2023😎. Merry Christmas MC!
I was so confused. Sometimes it can be really hard to know exactly what he's talking about unless there is some obvious loud issue going on in the community.
@@zbaird3 cause m3 tactical is lying about making knives in America.. 2 knife makers discovered that the m3's prototype of the growler has same finish,hardware and other nuances as bestech knives so lefty wanted proof that m3 made it and they don't want to provide it
@@terrellbeast7369 The thing I find interesting is that the owner of M3 is sticking to his story and said that he has been in contact with a knife reviewer that he trusts to provide proof, and has asked that reviewer to sign an NDA to protect the intellectual property. The aforementioned reviewer declined to sign the NDA. I can understand both sides to this story as i live in a world that deals a lot with intellectual property. The request though would place a reviewer in a tough spot. If that reviewer were MC, and he then vouched for M3, many people would consider him guilty by association. Obviously MC sides with transparency and i support his right to do so. MC seems to be a decent chap, so I'm going to believe he has good reasons for his position. I don't know if the reviewer mentioned by the owner of M3 was MC, but I wouldn't be surprised. On the other hand, I'm still not going to shun M3 all the time the owner is absolutely swearing that his product is USA made. i do know one thing. it is a crapy situation, because if M3 is telling the truth, then they are going to lose some business over this for sure. if M3 lied, then they've swindled a bunch of people.
Thanks for being willing to admit when you made a mistake and for taking responsibility! Not easy, but it keeps trust with an audience. Love your content and will continue to watch and support the channel.
Yep. I have not bought Medford for a reason. I have really started honing my BUYING experience over time and I am better for it IMHO. Blessings for a wonderful 2023
Most people who have watched Complex for any length of time understand your doing the best you can I think, and one thing we do as humans is make mistakes, learn from them and move on.Merry Christmas Knife Guy.
I can feel the knife drama through this video MC. Screw that keep at it brother I got a lot of love and respect for you and your content. Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year !!
Merry Christmas, MC. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your content and the info/opinions you offer. Have a successful and happy New Year in 2023.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 I hope you have a great weekend with the fam. I’ve always felt like I could trust your opinion because you’re just a guy who likes knives like most of us. If you ever made a mistake it was an honest one like anyone else would make. Thanks for the content man. Two uploads a day is a crazy pace but we all love you for it bud.
Happy to see this. I've been a fan for a while and it goes along way to address this now while the situation is still ongoing as opposed to later. Good on yah 👏. Happy Kwanzaa
It’s hard brother, but those of us who stand with you understand. Choose the road that you must but understand there are many people and companies who will do and say anything to justify what ever it is they want to justify. I think you’ve done well brother take it easy on yourself. Blessings
MMM, interesting video 😂 as always we appreciate your own transparency and how quick you are to admit and correct any mistake or incorrect information you've communicated.
Only been here for under a year, and I don't think YOUR integrity has been in question for me. Doing the best you can with the info you have been given.
It's really infuriating when someone's dishonesty reflects poorly on you. You can only make decisions based on information you HAVE. You're good with us, dude. No worries.
I just wanted to thank you MC for your reviews, unboxings and information on all the different knives/brands you cover. I know everyone has their own opinions on specific brands/models. I get tickled every time you say something like "get rid of the flipper & give me thumb studs" lol. As a lefty, I'm TOTALLY opposite lol. I hate thumb studs and won't buy a knife with a frame/liner lock ever (lock near blade edge). I only purchase knives that have either button/compression lock either on the side or spine side, and only if it has a rear/top flip or I can middle finger flick it open. That doesn't mean anyone is wrong, it's just preference and ease of use. You have re-awakened my love of knives, and even got me VERY interested in branching out into accessory modding. I'm about to buy a 120v power supply and start anodizing titanium, after I finish customizing my Smock. I don't think I'll have a big knife collection, I'm more about having a handful that I can mess around customizing and dressing out myself (like you did with your multiple Shamans). Anyway, thanks again for re-igniting an interest in knives that I hadn't had in over 30yrs.
Bro! Stay 💪 and keep doing what you ❤️. We are here for it‼️ honest mistakes are part of life. Owning them important, but forgiveness is not for the other person 😁
Good wisdom here. After 12 years in enterprise SAAS sales...I still tell the newbies. Only way you can get hurt, pretending to be something you aren't, and pretending to know something you don't. You are good MC. Merry Xmas.
Merry Christmas MC! Wait....MC= Merry Christmas....ok, you win! Thanks so much for being a genuine stand up guy! Hope the Complex Crew has a great holiday! Zip~
Always enjoy your videos. You have carved out a niche in the knife review world with your content and enthusiasm. Honesty and transparency will win out over self-appointed know-it-alls. Anyone who is less-than-forthright and is not prepared to reevaluate their past assertions will lose both trust and viewers. Rest assured your audience appreciates and respects your work. Peace and prosperity to you and yours, Mate. Question: Would you please expand on the point you made regarding the Hogue Ritter?
The Ritter Hogue is, in my opinion, dollar for dollar the very best USA EDC folding knife. Beyond this knife, it's very difficult to justify every additional dollar spent because of how well made and high functioning the Ritter Hogue is.
Merry Christmas Bro! IMHO, you’ve matured on here, throughout the time I’ve been present. I like that (not that it matters to you or anyone) but…. On a funny side note, I stopped taking tequila shots every time you said the word “right?” for the fear of more drunken knife shopping 😆 also, I love it when you go into Jim Gaffigan mode and start saying what you think some are saying in reply to what you’re saying! 🤣. 2023!! Forward and up!!! 🔪🇺🇸🔪🇺🇸🔪🇺🇸🔪🍺
Similar thing happened to me when I was still a novice in the knife world. I bought a custom ordered RavenCrest OTF for 280 bucks..........nuff said 🤦♂️🔥🔥
New to this so I'm not sure what you are or are not saying. I've purchased several knives based on your channel already, including ordering one of the upcoming Pulsars in patterned titanium. One thing: in another recent video you mentioned "overpriced", but when I went to look at/possibly order the knives, every one I was interested in was sold out. In cases like that, I don't think the product can be called overpriced if there is more residual demand than supply. Appreciate your enthusiasm...
Merry Christmas or Cule Yule Metal Complex. It is one thing to make a mistake, another to deceive at the onset. Either way, the truth is better for all. I have heard people ask "why does it matter where it's made"? It only matters if one wants to pay a fair price for a great product and know it has "quality and value" for all involved (consumer/seller/business owner/laborers). Caveat Emptor !
It's so disappointing and disheartening when these things come out. I hate the drama and the whole mob mentality, too, but I also know that companies need to be held accountable when they deceive us. It's just ugly. But we can't let it diminish our love for great knives.
MC I know you probably don't know but would you know if the Boker Plus Bob will ever be produced again? I really want one but it appears they are discontinued.
God I love the zircuti I really want that exo! Do you know if they are still making those? I understand it’s hard enough to get the regular ones but I do see them come up every now and then curious if they will make more in the zircuti???
That was sent to me after the fact. I'm not concerned with Alex. I honestly had no idea who he was. Most of what I learned came from Transparent knives. Thankful for his insight.
While you may be the first source of information for some of us in the community, expecting you to have all the facts, right off the bat, isn’t fair. Half the time, your videos are of your first time checking out a knife; literally “first impressions.” If you, yourself, have been misinformed or deceived, that’s not the same as mistakenly giving the wrong information. That’s not your fault. Having kept up with the current goings-on, I do appreciate this video though. It’s unfortunate that not everyone has chosen to handle things the way you have here. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
It’s so great to see influencers deal with situations like this with grace as you have. Unlike a certain whistleblower did. True class act all the way around my friend 🤝
@@metal_complex I know you avoid drama at all costs, but I think it would be beneficial to pull the M3 videos. You gave some pretty strong recommendations to potential makers looking for USA OEM’s. Would hate to hear of them utilizing M3 based on your recommendations.
Nope. Altered the descriptions in those vids to update folks. Pulling videos isn't something I like to do. Makes it look like I'm hiding something. Would rather leave them and clarify.
Clearly there is reasoning behind this video. I just watched a similarly toned one from Jim Skelton. I'm not trying to be a dick (I have a talent) if you're going to talk about transparency and trust, why not a "just the facts" video on what is prompting this video? What is going on?
The problem is that a "fact" has a different definition depending on who you're talking to. My definition of fact is pretty strict, and I have to be extremely careful. Have a look through the comments
If this was triggered by the USA manufacturer who some are now accusing of having their stuff made in China, i can understand the trigger for the video. I'll not name that manufacturer as I don't know the truth. All I can say for sure is that I think we all know that you do your best MC, and you can only work from what you believe to be true. I will say I'm going to personally believe that the aforementioned maker is telling the truth, until someone can prove the owner is lying. I still believe a man's word is good enough until it is proven to be false.
Now, wouldn’t it be nice for M3 tactical to have some real transparency and an honest conversation about lying to the knive community and making the choice to continue on doubling down on stupid by posting videos as proof of (They’re knife building) abilities. Which are at the end of the day proves nothing at all. 🤦
Just snatched up a USAmadeblade Halftrack wharnie 🤌 I discovered your channel after buying a secondhand gen 1 Halftrack about 3, or 4 years ago Also I defended you in that particular comment section, assuming that is a apart of this dialogue.
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MERRY Christmas Brotha hope all is amazing with you and your family, we kicked 2022 ass now let's dominate 2023 👊
Same to you and yours! 😊🎄
I appreciate that you’re a knife junkie who’s jazzed about playing with new knives and NOT an “expert” who’s just trying to sell me junk. Keep on keeping on, man.
I got into knives about 4 months ago and was immediately drawn to your content because of the quality and you come across as an extremely genuine person who cares about his followers. Same case in your livestreams. Keep up the fantastic job and I'm sure you (and Neeves) will continue to kick ass in 2023😎. Merry Christmas MC!
He's not gonna name drop but he's talking about M3 tactical who divo knives just decided not to move forward with as an oem.
I was so confused. Sometimes it can be really hard to know exactly what he's talking about unless there is some obvious loud issue going on in the community.
Why did Kev move on from them were they misleading or something
@@zbaird3 cause m3 tactical is lying about making knives in America.. 2 knife makers discovered that the m3's prototype of the growler has same finish,hardware and other nuances as bestech knives so lefty wanted proof that m3 made it and they don't want to provide it
Thanks guys cause I was completely lost MC pisses me off sometimes but his humility can shine through all the bull too. Thanks again.
@@terrellbeast7369 The thing I find interesting is that the owner of M3 is sticking to his story and said that he has been in contact with a knife reviewer that he trusts to provide proof, and has asked that reviewer to sign an NDA to protect the intellectual property. The aforementioned reviewer declined to sign the NDA.
I can understand both sides to this story as i live in a world that deals a lot with intellectual property. The request though would place a reviewer in a tough spot. If that reviewer were MC, and he then vouched for M3, many people would consider him guilty by association.
Obviously MC sides with transparency and i support his right to do so. MC seems to be a decent chap, so I'm going to believe he has good reasons for his position. I don't know if the reviewer mentioned by the owner of M3 was MC, but I wouldn't be surprised.
On the other hand, I'm still not going to shun M3 all the time the owner is absolutely swearing that his product is USA made.
i do know one thing. it is a crapy situation, because if M3 is telling the truth, then they are going to lose some business over this for sure. if M3 lied, then they've swindled a bunch of people.
Thanks for being willing to admit when you made a mistake and for taking responsibility! Not easy, but it keeps trust with an audience. Love your content and will continue to watch and support the channel.
Yep. I have not bought Medford for a reason. I have really started honing my BUYING experience over time and I am better for it IMHO. Blessings for a wonderful 2023
Most people who have watched Complex for any length of time understand your doing the best you can I think, and one thing we do as humans is make mistakes, learn from them and move on.Merry Christmas Knife Guy.
I can feel the knife drama through this video MC. Screw that keep at it brother I got a lot of love and respect for you and your content. Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year !!
Merry Christmas, MC. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your content and the info/opinions you offer. Have a successful and happy New Year in 2023.
That was my credibility comment, I appreciate your stand up attitude. 👍🏻
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 I hope you have a great weekend with the fam.
I’ve always felt like I could trust your opinion because you’re just a guy who likes knives like most of us. If you ever made a mistake it was an honest one like anyone else would make. Thanks for the content man. Two uploads a day is a crazy pace but we all love you for it bud.
Happy to see this. I've been a fan for a while and it goes along way to address this now while the situation is still ongoing as opposed to later. Good on yah 👏. Happy Kwanzaa
It’s hard brother, but those of us who stand with you understand. Choose the road that you must but understand there are many people and companies who will do and say anything to justify what ever it is they want to justify. I think you’ve done well brother take it easy on yourself. Blessings
MMM, interesting video 😂 as always we appreciate your own transparency and how quick you are to admit and correct any mistake or incorrect information you've communicated.
Only been here for under a year, and I don't think YOUR integrity has been in question for me. Doing the best you can with the info you have been given.
It's really infuriating when someone's dishonesty reflects poorly on you. You can only make decisions based on information you HAVE. You're good with us, dude. No worries.
I feel like liver king should watch this…MC we appreciate you man!
I just wanted to thank you MC for your reviews, unboxings and information on all the different knives/brands you cover. I know everyone has their own opinions on specific brands/models. I get tickled every time you say something like "get rid of the flipper & give me thumb studs" lol. As a lefty, I'm TOTALLY opposite lol. I hate thumb studs and won't buy a knife with a frame/liner lock ever (lock near blade edge). I only purchase knives that have either button/compression lock either on the side or spine side, and only if it has a rear/top flip or I can middle finger flick it open. That doesn't mean anyone is wrong, it's just preference and ease of use. You have re-awakened my love of knives, and even got me VERY interested in branching out into accessory modding. I'm about to buy a 120v power supply and start anodizing titanium, after I finish customizing my Smock. I don't think I'll have a big knife collection, I'm more about having a handful that I can mess around customizing and dressing out myself (like you did with your multiple Shamans). Anyway, thanks again for re-igniting an interest in knives that I hadn't had in over 30yrs.
I’ve noticed some products from a company creeping back onto some channels with little or no acknowledgement of the previous controversy.
Bro! Stay 💪 and keep doing what you ❤️. We are here for it‼️ honest mistakes are part of life. Owning them important, but forgiveness is not for the other person 😁
Don't worry bro, most of us will understand and not judge. People and companies lie.
Merry christmas, MC! Thank You for your hard work!
Listening you are confidend and nice and seing hinderer on the screen and name of the video "transparent" is impresive.
Merry Christmas MC! You’ve gained my trust and I appreciate your channel very much. God bless!
Enjoyed the eye candy during this important message.
Extreme ownership! Always the way to go. Merry Christmas!
Good wisdom here. After 12 years in enterprise SAAS sales...I still tell the newbies.
Only way you can get hurt, pretending to be something you aren't, and pretending to know something you don't.
You are good MC. Merry Xmas.
Merry Christmas. No one is ever really going to know unless they are involved in the process.
Merry Christmas MC! Wait....MC= Merry Christmas....ok, you win! Thanks so much for being a genuine stand up guy! Hope the Complex Crew has a great holiday! Zip~
Always enjoy your videos. You have carved out a niche in the knife review world with your content and enthusiasm. Honesty and transparency will win out over self-appointed know-it-alls. Anyone who is less-than-forthright and is not prepared to reevaluate their past assertions will lose both trust and viewers. Rest assured your audience appreciates and respects your work. Peace and prosperity to you and yours, Mate.
Question: Would you please expand on the point you made regarding the Hogue Ritter?
The Ritter Hogue is, in my opinion, dollar for dollar the very best USA EDC folding knife. Beyond this knife, it's very difficult to justify every additional dollar spent because of how well made and high functioning the Ritter Hogue is.
Just wanna say I love the channel bro! You just helped me buy my newest knife. Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Bro! IMHO, you’ve matured on here, throughout the time I’ve been present. I like that (not that it matters to you or anyone) but…. On a funny side note, I stopped taking tequila shots every time you said the word “right?” for the fear of more drunken knife shopping 😆 also, I love it when you go into Jim Gaffigan mode and start saying what you think some are saying in reply to what you’re saying! 🤣. 2023!! Forward and up!!! 🔪🇺🇸🔪🇺🇸🔪🇺🇸🔪🍺
Similar thing happened to me when I was still a novice in the knife world. I bought a custom ordered RavenCrest OTF for 280 bucks..........nuff said 🤦♂️🔥🔥
Merry Christmas!! Keep up all the good work!
New to this so I'm not sure what you are or are not saying. I've purchased several knives based on your channel already, including ordering one of the upcoming Pulsars in patterned titanium.
One thing: in another recent video you mentioned "overpriced", but when I went to look at/possibly order the knives, every one I was interested in was sold out. In cases like that, I don't think the product can be called overpriced if there is more residual demand than supply.
Appreciate your enthusiasm...
Merry Christmas or Cule Yule Metal Complex. It is one thing to make a mistake, another to deceive at the onset. Either way, the truth is better for all. I have heard people ask "why does it matter where it's made"? It only matters if one wants to pay a fair price for a great product and know it has "quality and value" for all involved (consumer/seller/business owner/laborers). Caveat Emptor !
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Merry Christmas, Good Job as always.
Merry Christmas
It's so disappointing and disheartening when these things come out. I hate the drama and the whole mob mentality, too, but I also know that companies need to be held accountable when they deceive us. It's just ugly. But we can't let it diminish our love for great knives.
MC I know you probably don't know but would you know if the Boker Plus Bob will ever be produced again? I really want one but it appears they are discontinued.
God I love the zircuti I really want that exo! Do you know if they are still making those? I understand it’s hard enough to get the regular ones but I do see them come up every now and then curious if they will make more in the zircuti???
In other words, "Alex Steingraber" woke you up!
That was sent to me after the fact. I'm not concerned with Alex. I honestly had no idea who he was.
Most of what I learned came from Transparent knives. Thankful for his insight.
While you may be the first source of information for some of us in the community, expecting you to have all the facts, right off the bat, isn’t fair. Half the time, your videos are of your first time checking out a knife; literally “first impressions.” If you, yourself, have been misinformed or deceived, that’s not the same as mistakenly giving the wrong information. That’s not your fault.
Having kept up with the current goings-on, I do appreciate this video though. It’s unfortunate that not everyone has chosen to handle things the way you have here. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Don’t be more timid. Say the things the knife makers lead you to believe and let the enthusiast clarify. Everyone knows you’re just a collector.
The channels name isn’t- Metal Professional.
Someone told me a long time ago… Stupid people, like stupid shit. That isn’t your responsibility
Merry Christmas MC!
Pretty sure somebody swapped the pumpkin pie for sweet potato pie, and didn’t disclose. #🥧 trust
Merry Christmas M/C
It’s so great to see influencers deal with situations like this with grace as you have. Unlike a certain whistleblower did. True class act all the way around my friend 🤝
Can someone enlighten me as to what he is talking about? So which company is lying to us again?
M3 tactical..
@@Keith_the_knife_freak didn’t they show a video of their shop?
They do but it's not what it seems. It is possible some of there stuff is made in house. But other stuff is not ..
Got 2 knives for Christmas.
I GAVE 2 knives for Christmas !
I always preferred a Les be honest attitude .
you can try stretcher and make a video about an american ax? I like channel and subscribe and support. Merry Christmas. You ok✌
Merry Christmas to those who's beliefs kerp this day special.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!✝️
Screw everyone else, I guess.
Did we find out another "USA made" knife is not really USA made? What IG page do I need to go look at to catch up?
Ongoing. Still waiting for some definitive answers
M3 Tactical not being USA made. Check out LeftyEDC for the details.
@@metal_complex I know you avoid drama at all costs, but I think it would be beneficial to pull the M3 videos. You gave some pretty strong recommendations to potential makers looking for USA OEM’s. Would hate to hear of them utilizing M3 based on your recommendations.
@@g.dilla. funny enough M3 tactical has a link to metal complex’s video on their website 😂
Nope. Altered the descriptions in those vids to update folks. Pulling videos isn't something I like to do. Makes it look like I'm hiding something. Would rather leave them and clarify.
Context?
Clearly there is reasoning behind this video. I just watched a similarly toned one from Jim Skelton. I'm not trying to be a dick (I have a talent) if you're going to talk about transparency and trust, why not a "just the facts" video on what is prompting this video? What is going on?
The problem is that a "fact" has a different definition depending on who you're talking to. My definition of fact is pretty strict, and I have to be extremely careful.
Have a look through the comments
@@metal_complex Ok I get it now. It seems like mountains out of mole hills to me.
It will seem different to everyone. That's part of the problem.
If this was triggered by the USA manufacturer who some are now accusing of having their stuff made in China, i can understand the trigger for the video. I'll not name that manufacturer as I don't know the truth. All I can say for sure is that I think we all know that you do your best MC, and you can only work from what you believe to be true.
I will say I'm going to personally believe that the aforementioned maker is telling the truth, until someone can prove the owner is lying. I still believe a man's word is good enough until it is proven to be false.
Kinda lame that you had to take time out of your Xmas to address a bunch of dumb knife drama. Hope you enjoy the rest of the holiday MC.
Now, wouldn’t it be nice for M3 tactical to have some real transparency and an honest conversation about lying to the knive community and making the choice to continue on doubling down on stupid by posting videos as proof of (They’re knife building) abilities. Which are at the end of the day proves nothing at all. 🤦
I don’t see how you can take full blame when even the company didn’t know it was happening.
You Do You Man, Let The Snowflakes Worry About The Small 'Stuff'.
Right
Just snatched up a USAmadeblade Halftrack wharnie 🤌
I discovered your channel after buying a secondhand gen 1 Halftrack about 3, or 4 years ago
Also I defended you in that particular comment section, assuming that is a apart of this dialogue.
Merry Christmas MC.