LG C3 vs Sony A80L - Which Is The Better WOLED?
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The Sony A80L and the LG C3 are two of the most popular OLEDs on the market. They both use WOLED panels, support advanced audio and video formats like DTS and Dolby Vision, and have HDMI 2.1 bandwidth for modern gaming consoles and PCs. Despite their similarities, they do perform differently. Which one is better? Let's find out.
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Design
1:33 Inputs
3:08 Performance
3:38 Input Lag
4:16 Response Time
4:43 Pre Calibration
5:07 SDR & HDR Brightness
6:23 HDR Native Gradient
6:55 PQ EOTF
7:20 Upscaling
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8:15 Verdict
9:06 Outro
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I always loved your monitor videos, but when i had to buy a tv myself for the first time and took a deep dive into especially mid to high end models, since then i also love your tv comparisons!! ❤❤❤
Thank you! We'll be having a whole lot more in the coming weeks/months as we're starting to receive the new 2024 models and some are already in testing!
Another great review Abby! By the way, your thumbnail pics for your videos are hilarious! Good stuff!
Been reading reviews for weeks getting my very first oled in 2 weeks the C3 65”!! Cant wait!!!
Good one! I want a C4 but by the time I can afford one they'll probably have the C6 series!
It's been 2 weeks! Do you like it? Just ordered one today
@@jaydickstein its insane 🥹
I also just got a 65" C3 and I'm blown away by it. Amazing TV.
We are at the exact same place in life my friend. I wish you good luck.
Which one has the best Noise Reduction With Clear Image around the Whole screen Great Vid's
Can't wait for the G4 and S90D reviews from you guys
Coming soon! Keep your eyes peeled 👀
@@RTINGSdotcomstart already, no body cares about non oled
@@nicke89chill bro
It will be released in 2025
Did you know that S90D will have mix batch of WOLED and QDOLED
I bought the 77” A80L and it is great. I love it
Same and happy with the purchase
i bought the c3 77" and it's better than the movie theatre. i have an E9 and it's better than that!
I'll buy whichever is cheaper :)
Scooped a 65 a80l for $1400 at Costco today. Setting it up tonight. Hopefully it’s a good one!
@@FamilyAvila-ix6pfhow you like it
Literally all of the "disadvantages" of the Sony (except the two HDMI 2.1 ports, which are sufficient for probably 99% of buyers) are directly attributable to it having much better picture processing and quality.
Can't wait to see your S95D review next spring.
Still on my curved 55" C6 (2016) - and it is still going really strong. Looking for an upgrade soon though for something bigger.
Curved TV’s are 🗑️
I am almost assuredly going to get the next LG OLED finally. They're so good. 😊
Thanks for the video. Which setting for the most accurate colours on the C3? My guess ISF dark or filmmaker?
You can see our recommended settings here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c3-oled/settings
Purchased the C3 last fall and could not be happier.
Same here..c3 is wow every time i turn it on
Getting mine this weekend
Ant to bite the bullet and spend 1399 on a c3 55 inch
@@YoungHaveNot I just got a new 55' C3 for $450 lol
Really helpful review. Also, this is my first time seeing Abby and she does a great job. Also appreciate the representation as most tech reviews on YT are done by guys (no hate to guys but girls know about tech too!).
How do you fit a sound bar underneath the C3 with stand stuck out at the front ?
Sound aspect? AS?
Thank you for this video. I have been debating these exact 2 tv's for my game room in 83inchs.... Was going to buy from Costco to. get the extra 3 years warranty included but delayed and now the price was bumped up another $500 on the C3.
I guess you snooze you lose. Guess I thought the price would go down on the C3 since the C4 should be out soon.
Excellent comparison review. Thank you.
Thank you for watching! 😄
very nice review, well done
What about sound? And better soundbars?
when does the c3 go on sale, normally? cant wait to grab it!
Been on clearance sale for months
i got the c3 77" from greentoe for 1950 including tax and shipping.
Hi Abby the best tv reviewer😊❤
Looking to buy one. Waiting to see C3/G3 vs C4/G4
The C4 and G4 just arrived in our lab, we'll be getting started on testing them and have a review up soon!
Thanks❤
i had a choice between c3 77 vs g3 77 and i chose the former for two reasons, i plan to use the tv stand and the $900 difference in cost. ill use the $900 to get an oled for the gym room.
Need a c3 and c4 comparison.
It’s coming as soon as we finish testing the C4!
C4 65" in Europe: 2600 euros, C3 65" 1600 euros. Ordered the C3.
Thanks great review
Thanks for watching!
I have both models at 55" in the UK. The Sony, as with the C3, is surprisingly unforgiving of low bitrate HD broadcasts, which the BBC provides in abundance. I was expecting better AI upscaling from the A80L, but it's not noticeably there. As RTINGS say, don't expect either TV to make 480p look like HD. The C3, given that it's approx 2/3rds the price of A80L is a fantastic TV. It's a little darker than the A80L, so may not be suitable for a room with large amounts of sunlight during the day. The Sony has more HDR options, and maybe a few more options to fiddle about with the image, but I can't help feeling that you're paying a huge amount extra for the Sony name. The real clincher for me on the C3 is the full availability of screen ratio controls on USB movie playback, so you can stretch a widescreen film to full screen even if the film isn't 16:9 enhanced. Not sure from memory if the A80L does this, but as the C3 is my main TV, I don't really care. Sound on both TVs is fantastic, and I certainly don't need a soundbar on either of them. My only bugbear with the C3 is sometimes having to alter image settings between live soccer and snooker because the sceen will either be too light or dark.
Why are they saying A80L is darker than the C3?
@@playcold32 I don't know.
@@playcold32 I don't know. The C3 is visibly darker in the video.
You mean sound is trash on both of them and avoid a soundbar.
I don't get how people can buy a good TV without a couple of good speakers and maybe a woofer
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico most people don't have big home spaces that would allow an actual speaker system. A Soundbar is miles better than a tv speaker, and yes a sound system is much better than a Soundbar. But not everyone is an audiophile. Telling people that a Soundbar is a waste of money because there is something better out there, is like telling someone that buying an LG C3 is a waste of time because the LG G4 exists.
I have the 65" A80L and love it. Best TV I have ever owned.
What is best gaming tv 8:54 for 2024
Having just bought a C3 it's good to know that i made a good choice.
Since i don't play games or watch live TV the C3 does all i can ask.
As for the banding issue, i think you would need both side by side to notice
any difference, i don't spend all day looking at colour bars!
How about the reddish tint due to ar coating?
@@paradiseb5950 Any tinting can easily be corrected in the settings.
If you want perfection, have an expert do a full calibration.
As i said, i don't spend all my time looking for minute imperfections.
@@Barbarapape you cannot fix a tint from the ar coating on the screen. That’s why i’m asking. How bad is it on whites and darks?
Crazy I think Sony looks better for movies and shows and lg is the best in gaming
WOAH-Led
does the ats c 1.0 mean that the c3 can't play 4k off a cable box or am I wrong?
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Just the review comparison I am looking for
What luck!
I’m curious as to why my C3 has the HDMI ports arranged differently. My only logical answer is because it’s an 83”? Did they change production halfway through 2023 and I got a more refined version? Curious. They are 2 and 2. Not all lined up like these TVs.
I have an opportunity to buy a new 83” c3. How is yours holding up?
@@SunnySkiesInAZI actually returned mine sadly… it had dirty screen effect on white screens and when it panned. I couldn’t unsee it. I’ve a 77” C3 now… do I miss the 83”? Of course I do. Is the screen perfect on the 77” I had to get instead? It is. So. I knew I made the right deduction in the end be size I would always see that dirty screen…and knowing what I paid for it that is just not acceptable to me. Did I get the 77” at a ridiculous low price? Sure did. If the 83 comes down to the mid $2000 I MIGHT return my 77” if I’m still within my 90 day window. Another question to ask, is 17% more viewing area worth $1000? I went to Best Buy to see an 83” and 77” side by side. It’s honestly kind of tough to see much difference in person. In the end, my heart will always yearn for the 83”… maybe my next tv will be in 5+yrs. Only time will tell.
Tbh my lg cx is still working perfect so until then I won’t upgrade but when I do I’m going Somy cause I’m older and care for movies more than gaming now
Also in person the Sony tv impressed me more regardless of these stats
Sound?
I’m looking to buy an 83” OLED. The LG 83” C3 is currently on sale for $3,300 while the Sony 83” A80L is $4,300. Is the Sony that much better ($1,200 better)? Should I just buy the C3 at that price and save some money or wait for Prime Day or maybe Black Friday for a price drop on the A80L? I only stream movies and watch 4k blu-rays, no gaming at all. Thanks!!!
C3 HDR-Brightness: 815cd@ 8.1
In game Mode 808cd @ 7.4
Guess there's a mistake as in both modes the max. brightness is almost the same...
Aunque la c3 sea mejor me sigue gustando un poco mas la colorimetria que maneja sony y su diseño
The review on the sound for these TVs are missing!
Soundbar and both sound tinny apart from sound demo clips Sony uses to fool customers
I have the C3 it's accepteble for bedroom if you turn off AI sound. In living room you need surond sound system for movies obviously.
@@mrm1885is this good for gaming and watching movies on a 4k player? Will it be able to last long using it 5-8 hours a day.
I use my c3 in my living room, sound set at 12-13 and Ibwatch movies... no plans to get a bar
Qn900d vs g4 🙏
Biggest problem is the price tag it makes the a80l less enticing, Sony has better processing, but the lg c3 is better value
Just picked my 65 a80l for $1400 at Costco today so the deals are out there. I originally went in for the c3. But I couldn’t deny Sony at that price!
Why did Brian choose the 83" A80L?
I’m curious as well. He’s reviewed/owned many TV’s.
Size.He wanted an 83in oled. He picks size, FOMO too.
C3 calmed in the same size usually 1000-1500 cheaper also than the A80L
Numbers aren't everything th-cam.com/video/l1nZ-kbW2qg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=A_VqnVr448EvHHFy
Wasn't it because of the micro-contrast feature? But still, I doubt that one feature can justify the Sony tax, especially since the C3 has much more to offer than the Sony.
Woah-led sounds so odd to me. I’ve never heard anyone call it anything but W-OLED
Is this a review from a year ago just re-uploaded?
While we begin buying and testing 2024 models, we figured we'd film (they are newly filmed) new reviews for 2023 models that may help users who look to take advantage of price drops!
G4 a95d a95L mz2000 G3 mon top 5
You do get BRAVIA CORE with A80L which is a fantastic extra benefit for movie lovers. REAL 4K at 80mbps.
Thats what im saying she skipped that part and how Netflix etc looks way better
We need people covering the tint issue on lg evo oleds. Nobody is talking abt them yet many people struggle with the pinkish tint ruining the experience.
Just saying....but 815 vs 809 peak on a 10% window is not even perceivable.... You're talking about 6 whole nits, on the upper end of the luminance range.
What gamers always complain about on LG, is the lack of peak brightness in SDR game mode. That's where the emphasis needs to be on.... Not a few nits lost in peak specular HDR brightness.... Especially when it's only a 6 nits difference.
In the past especially, is when this should of been brought up...bc it was a issue on LG for awhile. I noticed it being a non issue when the C2 came out, as game mode looks virtually just as vibrant, saturated, and as bright as non game modes. Where I would notice a dip in game mode, on the CX/C1s.
It was brought up last year a lot with the MLA panels due to color boosting being absent from game mode. This year, they've fixed that issue, and game mode in the MLA equipped LG OLEDs performance near identical in game mode, as they do outside of game mode, from a overall luminance perspective, and from a color luminance perspective.
LG C3 wins for being well rounded
Sony A80L for general picture picture quality above all else
Which I mean the 90% of people that aren’t gamers and watching tv actually care about the most being picture quality.
@@lvproductionsinc9748 90% also don’t want to stomach the premium that Sony charges
@@lvproductionsinc9748no offense, but features are more important than picture quality. You could not notice any difference between those 2 unless you use them both side by side in your house.
@@christianj606 depends on the features you're looking for. If I was buying a TV for gaming then I would be C3 all the way. For shows (especially what I watch) I lean towards the A80L. The sound on the A80L is significantly better.
I've seen the two side by side, and quite frankly they are both fantastic TVs. For movies and TV shows I think the A80L is the winner. For gaming the C3 is the obvious choice. In the end, you can't go wrong with either one.
@@christianj606A lot of people don’t care about the features. Picture quality factors the most for majority of people.
The way Sony’s processing delivers. The picture is different
El procesador del Sony es mejor que el procesador del LG, eso es más importante que la cantidad de brillo y otras características propuas de la pantalla.
Si se trata de opunar, para mi el Sony es mejor tv
LG OLED ALL THE WAY
Lg QNED85T review
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My LG C1 all day everyday.💪🏻
😆🤪 Common man, I have 2 myself and they are surpassed now!
I love my c1 and I'm not going to spend a grand for a tv that's just a little better.
@@cherylsmith2285 totally agree Ser🫡
I still don't understand why the Rtings page for the A80L said that "Dolby Vision bright" was the most accurate setting for Dolby Vision content. Dolby Vision Bright even comes with motion smoothing, it's clearly less accurate.
The most accurate setting is to turn HDR off permanently using an external streaming device.
@drunkhusband6257 I like HDR.😔
I just wish TV makers would spend less time on getting the brightest HDR possible, and more time on getting HDR to actually function properly.
@@guyr3618 There is no standard for hdr it will never function properly. Shows and movies aren't made or mastered for hdr and never will be....because it is inaccurate and looks bad
Great review, a little bit late though.
Fair point! On our end though, we expect prices on previous models to drop, and not everyone buys the most recent models every year, so we expect it to be useful still!
First, they took the A from ratings, and now they took the M in Samsung. It has begun! They are taking over movie reviews!
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C4 est top qualité prix
I wonder how the C3 compares to the C4
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Who is using a soundbar for Oled TV's?
You'd be surprised!
i have 4 OG homepods connected to apple tv and they sound great.
Look up the Q990c sound bar system it’s amazing and goes very well with an OLED tv
“Bonjour “ Bella Abby !! 😊 lol I know like 10 French words lol. 🎉
What about black crush and audio?
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@@RTINGSdotcomthat’s unfair if you ask me. Cause even my LG cx crushes blacks
I don't know if I should get the C3 or G3🤔
G3. Although if you can wait until the fall, the C4 and G4 are big impartments over their predecessors.
@@MetalMike56 yeah... But the prices on those 2024 models are stupid high. Even the G3 is a jump from the C3... I find it difficult to decide on what I really need.
@@KaiSchSp Yeah right now they definitely are. But TVs usually drop 40-50% come Black Friday in November. If you need a TV soon, G3 is the better pick even for the higher price tag.
@@MetalMike56hi end model don’t normally drop big in price but once new models come and around Super Bowl best time to buy tv imo
Sony overcharges for the same experience imo except for maybe the computation sector like the motion handing but even then it’s not worth the price hike fr
8:56 "SaNsung" S90C OLED? ...Sounds like a bootleg brand! ;)
PS. Thanks fora good review :)
je prefere un C3
Is this a monitor reviewing channel now?
It’s a product review channel!
Is c3 better then c4?
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@@RTINGSdotcomhi! I’m looking to buy an 83” OLED. The LG 83” C3 is currently on sale for $3,300 while the Sony 83” A80L is $4,300. Is the Sony that much better ($1,200 better)? Should I just buy the C3 at that price and save some money or wait for Prime Day or maybe Black Friday for a price drop on the A80L? I only stream movies and watch 4k blu-rays, no gaming at all. Thanks!!!
I liked reds on c3 better too. Issue with both - oled's. As such horrible for fast action movies as everything is a blur.
I understand all the advantages of OLED. But for that budget, the burn-in-risk…..maybe I am too old, but I want performance and peace of mind for that price
Burn in is hype
Note to Editor: show more product features than the presenter. I know she is beautiful but we're here to see the product.
You Sir/ma'am are doing God's work. Very Soon I'm gonna buy a new TV and thanks to you I will be making a better decision
Thank you for the kind words, it's what we aim to do! We'll be testing the new 2024 models soon and posting new reviews in the coming weeks!
I’m sorry but the Sony is better when it comes to streaming movies and TV shows which everything you watch is streaming. Sony just has a better processor and I choose processing over lighting. And this is coming from someone who has the LG C3 right now and Sony. Lg C3 over hyped the sony a80l is better.
Is the motion better on the Sony?
@@PatrickA1 they are identical in my opinion. But in some scenes like movies with Sony has a slight edge in motion
You're better off comparing this year's model, the c4 range
We definitely will once the units we purchased get delivered and we can run them through our tests. In the meantime though, we expect prices on previous models to drop, and not everyone buys the most recent models every year, so we expect it to be useful still!
How does rtings make money to afford all this? Ad revenue can't be that high with the small viewer numbers...
Any transparency?
Some of their revenue is from a subscription service that gets you the full range of their reviews on their website.
How does @Fabbyyy allude to bias without even bothering to do the most basic of research first? Intelligence can't be that high with the small IQ numbers...
Any transparency?
easy lg is better & brighter for gaming
Completely false...the A80L is most certainly brighter than the c3 and doesn't lose brightness in game mode like the c3 does.
My LG CX is much better than my A80L and my CX have 4 2.1 HDMI ports.
A80L is very dark, LG Much better image processing.
C3 all the Way!
That's an absolute lie. The A80L is significantly brighter in sdr, and has far superior image processing
I will get C3 Rather Than A80L, The Difference Price Both Of Them almost $500 in 55inch 😂.
I love how this review is so biased to fail to mention the vastly superior A80L image processing. I love LG and I think the C3 is an amazing TV no doubt, but I feel it intentionally avoids to mention how artificial it looks compared to the A80L. Bravia XR processor does make more difference than anything mentioned here.
lol,,so says the fan boy of the always over priced sony TVs
@@mycolortv1 I had an LG OLED B9 for years, have you had both TV brands to compare and actually talk from experience? if so, then you are free to have your preferences, that’s respectable, but there is an objective better image processing in Sony TVs
never buying sony smart tv again. extremely slow. loads all the time
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sooo go LG?
I bought a80 L very slow pls don’t buy
It helps to unlock developer settings and bring down animation to .5 or turn it off completely.
Projection
Give me the realistic color from Sony any day. Price doesn't matter.
lol..over priced sony...as always
@@mycolortv1 They're pretty close enough in price now, and from my experience with the X90L it's always possible to make the colors look better if realistic color isn't your thing.
But Google TV is better than WebOS it’s a decision maker for me between them.
Streamer device Roku Apple etc
@@JustxLiving909 i have a lot of devices. Why do i need another one to collect dust? 🤣
@@hefrocks Because using a roku you can permanently disable junk tech HDR and the interface is far faster
@@drunkhusband6257why should I put another dust collector into setup 🤷🏻♂️ everything is perfect with Google
@@drunkhusband6257consoles and amps too much boxes 🤷🏻♂️
why you so late?
We bought and tested these models when they were first released. However, we understand prices are starting to drop as the new models come out, and not everyone buys the most recently models. So we're hoping these videos still help users while we buy and test the 2024 models!
The sad part is that the real content that people are watching the TVs perform significantly different than just on the test patterns and only SDR and no HDR Testing patterns that rtings does. So 90% of this doesn’t apply to the TVs actual performance for content you watch and it’s super controversial and it’s unfortunately not a clear example for the TVs at all. Hopefully the way things are done are improved in the future to give a more accurate representation of the TVs.
if you watch mostly compressed sdr content, you should get a cheap LED tv, not OLED. this comparison is spot on for what people should care about OLED tvs.
@@99tophunter I think maybe you misunderstood. Unless u are agreeing? That’s exactly apart of my point. High resolution video content and HDR 4K content is the focus of what I was speaking too as well. Anyone who is needing true hdr performance and information around that with content is not getting the most accurate representation of the TVs and they are missing what actually happens in real scene dependent content with how the tv performs HDR, specular highlights and top level performance.
@@lvproductionsinc9748 You lost credibility when you said you use HDR at all....total junk tech for people who can setup tvs properly.
@@drunkhusband6257 you lost all credibility when u said something that made no sense. 4k hdr and how Pq is effected by a tv and processing is more important today for movies and streaming more than ever today.
@@lvproductionsinc9748 HDR does not positively effect PQ...and never will unless they start mastering movies/tv shows/ and programming games to actually use it. It won't happen. HDR is a scam, and should always be turned off and SDR properly calibrated.
Y no hablas del procesador? Se nota que la mujer trae una playera de LG abajo de la ropa.
LG over SONY every day of the week.
The sony A80L should compare to the LG C2
That’s the A80K that would’ve compared to the C2. They were both 22 models. C3 and A80L were 2023.
I agree. Sony releases tvs late in the year and they use lg oled panels. There is a strong chance this is using the C2 panel so it's performance in terms of brightness and such would be be more competitive to that model. Lol A80M will probably will have similar brightness stats to the C3 but it will be compared to the C4. The cycle continues.
@@seryun432 a lot of the tv guys liked the A80L over the C3 because of XR clear. RTINGS is kind of in the minority this year on their A80L thoughts. Most of the time price is close between the 2 too. I have an A80K and A95L personally but the C Series is a solid option too. I think the G4 is gonna be the flagship this year. Sony is a giant mystery this year.
@@seryun432 most of the tv guys preferred the A80L to the C3 because of XR clear this year. RTINGS really the only one with a different opinion. I have an A80K and A95L can’t complain.
@@zr1cvette Would you say picture quality on A95L and A80K are the same but A95L is much brighter?
Lol, Sansung.
Sony TVs will outlive LGs, but if you're a gamer LG all the way. If you're after streaming and watching movies, get the Sony.
The moment u called it woled takes me away from this video. C3 is a tv for most, the A80L is for the purists nd the one who can understand its processing.
clearly seems a tilt towards LG
I don't get why she didn't even mention the OS'es. I hate the LG's interface.
Speak for yourself, I’d take a gold dipped LG C3 so I could sell it, and buy a Sony A95L. As long as there was 10 pounds of gold to pay for a 77”.
i chose Google Tv over WebOS
I don't get it sony get it's panels from lg so essentially the same lol
WOLED is dead. QD and MLA are going to dominate OLED (they already are) and mini LED contrast is already good enough to satisfy just about anyone while sacrificing nothing in brightness and color. It’s crazy to me that WOLED prices have remained so high going into 2024 and that people are still buying them.
No lcd can compare to oled no matter what you do with them. And woled is not more expensive than the new qd.
@@paradiseb5950 gonna have to disagree on that one. It comes down to brightness and vibrance. WOLED just doesn’t have it. Doesn’t have the pop, doesn’t have the colors, doesn’t have the bright perfect whites. That’s what most people want. And when you can get an 800+ zone 65” mini LED with 150k/1 contrast, perfect blacks just seem….. unnecessary. It wasn’t so long ago that 8000/1 was described as “deep, inky blacks.” We’re so far beyond that even with FALD now that I just don’t think it matters.
Only Micro Led can compete with OLED in all aspects, but only the super rich can afford a micro Led as it's ten times more expensive. Mini led is worse than OLED, so for now there is no competition to WOLED. QDOLED is still new tech, and the fact that a Samsung S95C is cheaper than LG C3 shows that people are not giving it enough importance.
@@RK99 it depends what you consider “better.” If you have a bright room and/or prioritize brightness and vivid colors, then mini LED would be “better.” Most people don’t care about infinite contrast when you’re comparing it to TVs that are 150k:1. When you were comparing it to TVs that were 5k:1 or even 40k:1 - yes, absolutely. But mini LEDs are so good at this point that it really doesn’t matter IMO.
@@ColinBenjamin current mini LEDs cannot process all their zones fast enough and have lagging zones. This year's Sony's solve that, but they are going to be 5000 dollar tv's for a 65 inch.
I think WOLED are like aging rapidly.