Goodness gracious, what a scenery at 9:16 !!! Breathtaking these colors and that soil mist! I was just waiting for the Topgun score to kick in 😆 (and I appreciate you could resist in post processing). Superb camera work Heidi, I wonder when Hollywood will be knockin' on your door 😉. These butter landings with such a "heavy" beast and these tiny pushes on the throttle just at the perfect time to smoothen the touch-down is giving me goose bumps every time. Great job, Adam!
Thanks very much Alexander! Glad you enjoyed it. To be honest the pulsing of the throttle comes from all the 3D flying I've done. With a jet you can also use a more consistent throttle setting with less corrections...it is just a hard habit for me to break! Lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam that's great you'll fit right in with the rest of the Horizon Team. Contact Scott Settle to make room for you with the Horizon Guys, Ali. Or let me know and I'll get in touch with Scott. Jeff
What a gentle giant of a beast of an EDF. It looks and sounds like there ought to be a big fire ball and beautiful clouds of soot shooting out of its rear. Awesome review, Y'all. 👍
Hells bells adam. Thats gotta be the best sounding edf jet out there. Just awesome. I haven't watched the other channels yet, I always wait for yours first. Thanks your the best. Motion rc has the new 90 mm. F16 that might be a contender.
Wonderful flights. Love the wave to us with the elevators on taxi. What a great model, need I say more about the flight crew!! AC/DC Aussie band Tee Adam.
Hi Adam, as always a very objective and superb review for the normal pilots :D Before I forget it, I´m a fan of Yowoo graphene blue packs. They are heavy, but they hold on really good the load without sagging so much. It´s strange but I can fly almost 3 min on the 2200 6S on my Freewing F-16 70mm, and that setup is much lighter. Back to your review, super! Your flying style is gorgeous and more with this bigger airframe. Just landing it giving throttle up and down isn´t so much my thing. I would prefer a more gentle throttle management but it´s only the sound. Those touch and goes are amazing :) Thanks a lot! PS: I would like also a small car like the Mustang xD xD hahaha
Just the review i was waiting for! This channel has always been what helps me make my final decisions on the right plane. Thanks so much for only the best content!
What is that maneuver you do at 20:30 mark? You did it earlier too. It's a aileron roll, then elevator, cut throttle, then throttle, the cut. Is the cutting throttle to slow down the roll time? Thanks
Extremely well flown. Your landings really are excellent to watch. I can hear you are bumping the thrust just prior to the flare and that is giving excellent results. Will you be reviewing the new FW 90 mm F16 V2? It is down to these two options for the next plane. You are the deciding factor !
Thanks very much! Those are some apples to oranges choices. Sport jet or scale jet. The sport jets are awesome to fly and a bit more user friendly, but the scale jets are great as well. I will say this...if it is a F-16 you want I've flown the older version of the FW, and hands down I'd have the E-flite 80mm over it any day. I haven't flown the new version though, but the lines/mold are the same, and it is less true to scale as far as outline. That said if you get a FW, I'd go with the 8s...they added details that add weight.
Yes, not a fair comparison for sure. The wing loading of the new V2 looks quite ominous and I have to decide if the beauty of scale flight outweighs the less stressful abilities of the 90 mm Avanti. Awaiting more landing footage from the FW.
Another excellante (fancy way of using excellent) video and amazing plane. Now for the $64k question.. I have this plane (still in the box) and my “optional” TV kit arrived today. Any chance we’ll be seeing a follow up setup vid for a “how to” on thrust vectoring build and radio setup? Hmmm..
@@ModelAV8RChannelThat will be epic to watch.. I took advantage of Jons offer for the profile download (I have a NX10SE) for this bird.. can’t wait to give it a try. The AR10360T+ will be here on Friday.. crap weather here.. so perfect timing for some bench time. Pretty stoked to get this in the air with TV to see what she does.. if it’s anything like what Jon showed on his YT channel.. I’m gonna be one happy friggin pilot 😊 I truly LOVE this hobby and the people in it.. You guys ROCK! And THANK YOU for your dedication and serious time commitments made to keep us newbies informed!
We didn't do that because it was wet and I didn't want to have to clean it, lol. It is a large 90mm sport jet, we've flown UMX EDF's off that grass...the Viper will do fine from it.
lol, Unfortunately yes, most of the time. Jockeying the throttle is a habit I formed flying 3D, and it isn't necessary to that degree with a EDF, but I get away with it because I'm good at it. A more consistent throttle setting on approach is easier and works just fine. It's a hard habit to break. Been flying a bunch of 3D planes lately sine AS3X+ came out...so breaking that habit with an EDF ain't going so well, lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I’ve always heard to land a plane on the throttle as opposed to trying to time the flare. I bring my Viper 90 in with about a little less than 1/4 throttle and sometimes I slow it up too much by pulling the elevator. I was thinking that pumping the throttle could help me avoid stalling…
You can certainly blip the throttle as needed. Tiny adjustments are a part of a good controlled approach. That said sometimes I jokey it more than necessary. Sometimes it sounds like I am ...but I'm making rudder corrections and those corrections are moving the throttle up/down very slightly. This was a crosswind...so that could be some of what you're hearing. Our mic intensifies every sound a good bit.
You always have informative videos, but I also watch your videos simply because also like your first part of the flight demo that was awesome. Do you have a couple questions. How would you compare this overall to the E flight viper 90 mm assuming that you buy a similarreceiver that is in the Viper? Also, what are your thoughts on the suspension stiffness on this plane?
Thanks for the kind words. I've flown one 90 Viper, and it had someone else's set up on it. We have one ourselves now and I'm going to set it up for me with AS3X+ and I'll have a more accurate opinion then. I can tell you though...it will be very close. My buddies flew great and so does this Avanti. On the struts I see many commenting on that and some even speculating about how they will hold up over time in videos. I'm not one to speculate, I prefer experience and real world testing before I come to any conclusions. It looks weird rebounding that slow for sure. I've flown a few planes from FMS with the struts like that now, and so far in my takeoffs and landings from multiple surfaces I can't really tell a difference either way. Doesn't seem to help or hurt. If it is a help or hindrance in some way, it is so minuscule I can't see it. As far as how they will hold up over time...time will tell, don't know yet. These are the reasons I don't mention it in my reviews...in my experience there's nothing to tell yet.
Hi Adam, thanks for the excellent review and footage! I'd like to know how you compare it with the Freewing Avanti 80mm (I haveone, by the way). It seems to fly bigger and probably slower in terms of agility...your thoughts? Thanks
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. The 90 is faster speed wise, but a bit less responsive...although much smoother as you might expect from a bigger plane. To me, it is plenty responsive enough...I'll take bigger and smoother any day if I have the choice. Plus...5 min flight times are awesome with an EDF...especially with a 90. I love the 80, great jet and one of my favs. That said...it isn't in my hangar anymore, and this 90 will be. I can't sum it up better than that...
@ModelAV8RChannel thanks Adam! Personally, I think it's a shame that FMS did not implement some more plastic details all around the airframe (air intake, hatch borders, exhaust nozzle, wing tips, etc) which are becoming standard for big foamies and ensure durability and nice finish...but it's still a nice model 😉
Yeah that is something we're starting to see more for sure. They may not have wanted to add the weight because its fully painted...which already adds weight. Not sure.
Adam, obvious question, how does this big brother stack up to your beloved Avant S V2 80mm? My feelings, it feels like a friendly boat, not nearly as docile or fast as the 80mm. Any 80mm or 90mm EDF flying weight over ~7.5lbs begins to show its big belly. My Viper 90mm is less weight than my Avanti 80mm, both with 6000mAh.
Yeah man the Viper 90 can smoke the Avanti 90 in speed and vertical just because of the weight. The full paint job on the Avanti looks awesome, but adds a good bit more weight than folks realize. I think the speed is similar to the Avanti 80mm, but because the 90 is bigger the perceived speed looks slower. I'll know for sure in a bit...we're gonna test that, lol. The 90 Avanti is definitely more docile than the 80, but not as aggressive...which given the size difference makes sense. Slower roll/pitch/yaw rates. Some like the feel of that...the bigger plane feel, and some don't. I like both, depends on my mood really. The Viper 90 kinda kills both those birds with one stone. I have one now myself...with my personal set up. Boy does that make a difference. The one we flew in a fun flight a while ago belonged to someone else with a different set up. Now, when you use the TV on the Avanti 90...that opens a whole new can of worms. Very interesting, and a capability nothing else has for now.
That intro shot is the stuff Top Gun is made of.
Yeah...had to put that in...
Goodness gracious, what a scenery at 9:16 !!! Breathtaking these colors and that soil mist! I was just waiting for the Topgun score to kick in 😆 (and I appreciate you could resist in post processing). Superb camera work Heidi, I wonder when Hollywood will be knockin' on your door 😉. These butter landings with such a "heavy" beast and these tiny pushes on the throttle just at the perfect time to smoothen the touch-down is giving me goose bumps every time. Great job, Adam!
Thanks very much Alexander! Glad you enjoyed it. To be honest the pulsing of the throttle comes from all the 3D flying I've done. With a jet you can also use a more consistent throttle setting with less corrections...it is just a hard habit for me to break! Lol.
Adam great flying and review, hey it's an Avanti of course it's going to be epic. Zoom Zoom Zoom Jeff in LA USA
Very big very nice Jet Jeff! Hey...I think I'm going to try to make it to BF in October...
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam that's great you'll fit right in with the rest of the Horizon Team. Contact Scott Settle to make room for you with the Horizon Guys, Ali. Or let me know and I'll get in touch with Scott. Jeff
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam.. Me too!! Will be a treat to see you there! You will really enjoy it!❤
Adam, you fly that plane like you're actually in it! Really great flying, great review!
Thanks very much!
Very good review. Just discovered your channel. Top notch on every aspects. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching! Welcome, and thanks for the kind words.
Excellent review ! Enjoyed your 'Airshow' very much !
Thanks man! Really rewarding to fly...great jet.
Fantastic big EDF Jet from Fms Adam!! Looks and sounds real, fantastic flying and fantastic review 😀👍
Thanks Ian!
What a gentle giant of a beast of an EDF. It looks and sounds like there ought to be a big fire ball and beautiful clouds of soot shooting out of its rear.
Awesome review, Y'all. 👍
Thanks Al! Great airplane...very much enjoy it!
Another great video Adam and Heidi. Looks like an awesome airplane! Scott
Thanks Scott! It really is!
Great opening clip , plane looks awesome
Thanks man...its awesome.
Hello Adam, another great review in the books. Heidi great camera work. Looking forward to seeing yours with vector thrust. Cheers!
Thanks Rommel! Me too!
Great review! Just ordered one off your link thanks!
Thanks very much we appreciate it! You'll love it...enjoy!
Hells bells adam. Thats gotta be the best sounding edf jet out there. Just awesome. I haven't watched the other channels yet, I always wait for yours first. Thanks your the best. Motion rc has the new 90 mm. F16 that might be a contender.
Thanks so much Jay! Yes sir...it sounds like a turbine!
Wonderful flights. Love the wave to us with the elevators on taxi. What a great model, need I say more about the flight crew!!
AC/DC Aussie band Tee Adam.
Thanks Noel! Very impressed with this jet. Also...AC/DC rocks!
Adam and Heidi the plane with the sunrise look great Adam you rock it awesome flying great video 👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊
Thanks Frank!
Super nice landings 😮 I’m very impressed 😊
Thanks!
@@ModelAV8RChannel butter 😊 I’m waiting on my fms viper 90mm 😊 and I hope I can do it as buttery as you.
great looking flight !
Thanks!
Hi Adam, as always a very objective and superb review for the normal pilots :D Before I forget it, I´m a fan of Yowoo graphene blue packs. They are heavy, but they hold on really good the load without sagging so much. It´s strange but I can fly almost 3 min on the 2200 6S on my Freewing F-16 70mm, and that setup is much lighter. Back to your review, super! Your flying style is gorgeous and more with this bigger airframe. Just landing it giving throttle up and down isn´t so much my thing. I would prefer a more gentle throttle management but it´s only the sound. Those touch and goes are amazing :) Thanks a lot! PS: I would like also a small car like the Mustang xD xD hahaha
Thanks very much! Really an excellent airplane...very impressed!
Adam's flying... awesome. Avanti 90mm... awesome. Adam's AC/DC Tee... awesomer than awesome!
Well Hells Bells Gina its good to be Back in Black while Shakin' an Avanti all night long...
@@ModelAV8RChannel 😁😁😁😎
Just the review i was waiting for!
This channel has always been what helps me make my final decisions on the right plane. Thanks so much for only the best content!
Thanks very much!
great cinematic !!!
What is that maneuver you do at 20:30 mark? You did it earlier too. It's a aileron roll, then elevator, cut throttle, then throttle, the cut. Is the cutting throttle to slow down the roll time? Thanks
That is an outside tumble. Inputs are similar to a crankshaft, and the burst of throttle intensifies the rotation.
Fantastic thank you very much!
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
The right barrel roll to left turn over run way is one cold maneuver I want to fly like this one day
Extremely well flown. Your landings really are excellent to watch. I can hear you are bumping the thrust just prior to the flare and that is giving excellent results.
Will you be reviewing the new FW 90 mm F16 V2? It is down to these two options for the next plane. You are the deciding factor !
Thanks very much! Those are some apples to oranges choices. Sport jet or scale jet. The sport jets are awesome to fly and a bit more user friendly, but the scale jets are great as well. I will say this...if it is a F-16 you want I've flown the older version of the FW, and hands down I'd have the E-flite 80mm over it any day. I haven't flown the new version though, but the lines/mold are the same, and it is less true to scale as far as outline. That said if you get a FW, I'd go with the 8s...they added details that add weight.
Yes, not a fair comparison for sure. The wing loading of the new V2 looks quite ominous and I have to decide if the beauty of scale flight outweighs the less stressful abilities of the 90 mm Avanti. Awaiting more landing footage from the FW.
Another excellante (fancy way of using excellent) video and amazing plane. Now for the $64k question.. I have this plane (still in the box) and my “optional” TV kit arrived today. Any chance we’ll be seeing a follow up setup vid for a “how to” on thrust vectoring build and radio setup? Hmmm..
Thanks very much! Yes, we will do a TV video with this one. We're waiting on better weather here, but man am I looking forward to playing with that!
@@ModelAV8RChannelThat will be epic to watch.. I took advantage of Jons offer for the profile download (I have a NX10SE) for this bird.. can’t wait to give it a try. The AR10360T+ will be here on Friday.. crap weather here.. so perfect timing for some bench time. Pretty stoked to get this in the air with TV to see what she does.. if it’s anything like what Jon showed on his YT channel.. I’m gonna be one happy friggin pilot 😊
I truly LOVE this hobby and the people in it.. You guys ROCK! And THANK YOU for your dedication and serious time commitments made to keep us newbies informed!
Adam, very nice clear review. Saw you tumble this and the 64mm Eflite Viper also. So how do you do that? thanks 🇬🇧
Thanks very much. Similar inputs to a crankshaft in 3D
Are you going to do a grass ops flight Adam?
We didn't do that because it was wet and I didn't want to have to clean it, lol. It is a large 90mm sport jet, we've flown UMX EDF's off that grass...the Viper will do fine from it.
I noticed you pumping the throttle as you landed… is that how you land all your sport edfs? Viper 90?
lol, Unfortunately yes, most of the time. Jockeying the throttle is a habit I formed flying 3D, and it isn't necessary to that degree with a EDF, but I get away with it because I'm good at it. A more consistent throttle setting on approach is easier and works just fine. It's a hard habit to break. Been flying a bunch of 3D planes lately sine AS3X+ came out...so breaking that habit with an EDF ain't going so well, lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I’ve always heard to land a plane on the throttle as opposed to trying to time the flare. I bring my Viper 90 in with about a little less than 1/4 throttle and sometimes I slow it up too much by pulling the elevator. I was thinking that pumping the throttle could help me avoid stalling…
You can certainly blip the throttle as needed. Tiny adjustments are a part of a good controlled approach. That said sometimes I jokey it more than necessary. Sometimes it sounds like I am ...but I'm making rudder corrections and those corrections are moving the throttle up/down very slightly. This was a crosswind...so that could be some of what you're hearing. Our mic intensifies every sound a good bit.
@@ModelAV8RChannel OK hahaha, but as I mentioned it´s just the sound. And why don´t do it if you like it and you CAN :))
@@ModelAV8RChannel Good explanation too. For landing with crosswinds it were gorgeous landings!
You always have informative videos, but I also watch your videos simply because also like your first part of the flight demo that was awesome. Do you have a couple questions. How would you compare this overall to the E flight viper 90 mm assuming that you buy a similarreceiver that is in the Viper? Also, what are your thoughts on the suspension stiffness on this plane?
Thanks for the kind words. I've flown one 90 Viper, and it had someone else's set up on it. We have one ourselves now and I'm going to set it up for me with AS3X+ and I'll have a more accurate opinion then. I can tell you though...it will be very close. My buddies flew great and so does this Avanti.
On the struts I see many commenting on that and some even speculating about how they will hold up over time in videos. I'm not one to speculate, I prefer experience and real world testing before I come to any conclusions. It looks weird rebounding that slow for sure. I've flown a few planes from FMS with the struts like that now, and so far in my takeoffs and landings from multiple surfaces I can't really tell a difference either way. Doesn't seem to help or hurt. If it is a help or hindrance in some way, it is so minuscule I can't see it. As far as how they will hold up over time...time will tell, don't know yet. These are the reasons I don't mention it in my reviews...in my experience there's nothing to tell yet.
How high up can these go?
Depends on the laws at the venue.
Hi Adam, thanks for the excellent review and footage! I'd like to know how you compare it with the Freewing Avanti 80mm (I haveone, by the way). It seems to fly bigger and probably slower in terms of agility...your thoughts? Thanks
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. The 90 is faster speed wise, but a bit less responsive...although much smoother as you might expect from a bigger plane. To me, it is plenty responsive enough...I'll take bigger and smoother any day if I have the choice. Plus...5 min flight times are awesome with an EDF...especially with a 90. I love the 80, great jet and one of my favs. That said...it isn't in my hangar anymore, and this 90 will be. I can't sum it up better than that...
@ModelAV8RChannel thanks Adam! Personally, I think it's a shame that FMS did not implement some more plastic details all around the airframe (air intake, hatch borders, exhaust nozzle, wing tips, etc) which are becoming standard for big foamies and ensure durability and nice finish...but it's still a nice model 😉
Yeah that is something we're starting to see more for sure. They may not have wanted to add the weight because its fully painted...which already adds weight. Not sure.
What was your flap mix
09:06 in the video...full set up.
Great review thank you. Please stop repeating 569, my wife is listening!
Thanks! Lol...sorry.
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Didn't know that Mario was a pilot. 😂
Yeah Earl the little sucker can do more than drive a cart! Lol!
Adam, obvious question, how does this big brother stack up to your beloved Avant S V2 80mm?
My feelings, it feels like a friendly boat, not nearly as docile or fast as the 80mm. Any 80mm or 90mm EDF flying weight over ~7.5lbs begins to show its big belly. My Viper 90mm is less weight than my Avanti 80mm, both with 6000mAh.
Yeah man the Viper 90 can smoke the Avanti 90 in speed and vertical just because of the weight. The full paint job on the Avanti looks awesome, but adds a good bit more weight than folks realize. I think the speed is similar to the Avanti 80mm, but because the 90 is bigger the perceived speed looks slower. I'll know for sure in a bit...we're gonna test that, lol. The 90 Avanti is definitely more docile than the 80, but not as aggressive...which given the size difference makes sense. Slower roll/pitch/yaw rates. Some like the feel of that...the bigger plane feel, and some don't. I like both, depends on my mood really. The Viper 90 kinda kills both those birds with one stone. I have one now myself...with my personal set up. Boy does that make a difference. The one we flew in a fun flight a while ago belonged to someone else with a different set up. Now, when you use the TV on the Avanti 90...that opens a whole new can of worms. Very interesting, and a capability nothing else has for now.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam, GREAT! And I'm glad you're liking your E-flight Viper 90 -- Me thinks the Viper 90 is KING of this class EDF.
Also note: the flaps system on my Viper 90 is the same as this new Avanti 90 - as you mentioned here, servos push the flap, not pull.
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