How are MMA Fighters beating USADA?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024
- Chael Sonnen wonders how are MMA Fighters beating USADA on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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The dude from more plates more dates would single handedly do a better job than USADA 😂
Derek for president of USADA
Do you mean the CEO of delts?
Derek is not needed because the Chael Eye Test is infallible, irrefutable, undefeated, undisputed.
You mean Death Star shoulders?
Yup, that’s the dude.
Based on the eye test: Usman, Chandler, and Costa are definetly sauced.
Also, I believe Bobby Green said everyone in Thailand (Tiger Muay Thai) is sauced because USADA dosen't go there.
And Ariane Carnelossi. It was sweet to see Loopy defeat her last week.
Bobby Green 😂 but facts probably some sketchy shit going on
Ok what about Conor, burns, and a litany of others
@@farooqkeita700 I genuinely believe Conor doesn't do roids or peds, all the other stuff though
@@farooqkeita700 what makes u think Conor would be on ped’s tho? Burns maybe but he is got a short gas tank so certainly doesn’t take epo for sure.
I love how lost in Chaels stories and opinions I get. And once they are over I haven't a clue what he was just talking about.
Real shit 😂😂
nah fr i just be sitting here listening to everything while learning nothing
He brings up the facts that you already know, and asks you interesting questions about it.. man's a true wordsmith
Glad I’m not the only one.
Even Chael doesn't understand!
Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates is one of the most experienced dudes to talk and know. He says it’s actually really easy to beat USADA when you have the money to finance a chemist and doc to beat the pre tests. Derek actually makes tons of videos on athletes and peds
He's said many times it's actually just diet based... specifically chicken and broccoli.
Newb.
@@ChiefGhoul Don't forget the rice to complete the stack!
When you say money are you talking about a wealthy multi millionaire with almost endless money like Dan lambert and American top team? I doubt Yoel Romero, hector lombard, Jeff monson Pablo pabovitch or any of the other juice heads at ATT would actually do that. Also doubt they have their own chemist and anti aging doctor in boca….
I doubt any of that would exist.
yeah usman's brother is a pharmacist
@@oussama2040 and his papa
Chael always gets 100% on his eye tests. Compare that to another great like Bisping, who one gets 50% on his eye tests. Undefeated - Undisputed
Is that you Vitor?
🤣🤣🤣
This is why Jon has quietly not fought for over 2 years. As soon as Jeff Novitzky said USADA and UFC won’t announce doping suspensions, I knew Jon was really suspended and instead of Dana stripping him again and holding up 205 Jon let the belt go and played it off as moving to 265
You meant moving up to 265?
If jon jones gets suspended again its a lifetime ban im pretty sure. Definitely more than a 2 yesr ban. They might do 5 year ban before the lifetime but jon jones is on his last chance im pretty sure.
*mind blown*
Wait….FML…I’m an idiot, that makes total sense and I was just sitting here thinking he was dirty bulking this whole time.
I mean this would make sense but it's a pretty elaborate conspiracy. There's really no evidence for this. I don't think it's easier to believe this than it is to believe that he's actually just moving up a weightclass and is taking his time. He's gaining a lot of weight, it's not like going up from like 145 to 155 where it's only 10lbs. I do believe he's just taking his time and allowing his body to adapt because it wouldn't be a good idea for him to gain that much weight and fight immediately afterwards, I think his legacy means a lot to him and I don't think he's taking any chances fighting a heavyweight without proper preparation. Would I put my money on any of this though? Nope, he certainly can't be trusted.
PEDs are ahead of the testing, USADA has to constantly catch up
Top fighters only get tested like 5 times a year, champs are tested 6-10 times a year. They can legally skip two of these tests a year without punishment
Most of the top guys are on something, Usman shows up with the body a Mr Olympia contender would desire and that's all whilst training jiu jitsu, functional training, striking, wrestling, sparring and much more. Plus the body building guys are also on PEDs of course.
Guru always with the truth
Usmans physique is identical to those of him at SEVENTEEN years old... theres many pictures because he dominated everyone in wrestling all over the country haha. So apparently hes been taking botique drugs for almost two decades
Usman looked like that since he was wrestling in high school
@@omardevonlittle3817 clueless.
Truth Guru. I was one of the first guys on the East Coast to use Trenbelone Acetate and it didn't exist at the time so it couldnt be found in testing.
This feels like it came out of nowhere so it's probably something recent.
We just saw Michael Chandler, out of Sanford MMA, head kick Tony Ferguson so hard that Chandler actually fractured his shin from the force and left Tony unconscious for several minutes with leg crossing permanent brain damage and probably a severe concussion. Chandler's response was multiple backflips that looked to be of pure joy over the win.
Also in Chael's last video he is talking about how he stopped using PEDs once Dana had a press conference talking about how dangerous it is for the other fighter and you can kill someone.
Chael is also saying he suspects that the guy at these gyms don't know they're being dosed which is why we are getting so many genuine reactions.
At least that's my speculation on why this is all being talked about. Also Sanford MMA has some of the most jacked, even for MMA standards, fighters.
So is it really that easy to consistently dose someone without them knowing? Cause wouldn’t they have to give them certain things at certain times? Idk how it all works it just seems hard to do to me.
I love Chandler but his Phil Heath style bubblegut was upsetting
yup
And Sanford MMA is all made up of former Blackzilians, known to be roid fiends
@@ETAisNOW Chael says it is, I don't really know it seems unlikely they wouldn't know on some level though.
I love that these videos are 100% meant to send a message to someone but Chaels talking to us like it’s just another video for us. Chess 🐐
Last week's video was 100% a message to Chandler.
@@antoniocontreras7559 What was his other video about? I have difficulty listening to Chael's voice, since he is always yelling. What message was he sending to Chandler?
@@Ritalie how does he celebrate almost killing a man (Tony Ferguson headkick) while celebrating, doing the cross sign, raising his arms in victory thanking God, parading his adopted kids, knowing he's on the juice , and sleep well at night with that knowledge. He's also implying maybe Chandler doesn't realize his gym is giving him steroids through a method Chandler doesn't realize.
@@antoniocontreras7559 which one specifically? I watched a couple but wouldn't be sure which one it is
@@Grant-mo6ig it was 3 days ago i looked back and this antonio guy is 100% dead on lol
These insider videos on PED use in the sport have me absolutely rivetted from start to end.
This is amazing content Chael.
agreed. These were much better than his usual videos
I want a part 3 of his PEDs and USADA series. Chandler and Usman need to get caught
You're like 25 years behind..
He could make a 2 hour documentary with clips from the past wrestling events and MMA. Man it could win an award.
To anyone who hasnt heard the storybefore, the turkish athlete had a coach who insisted on masaging him. He applied a cream that opened up the pores, then applied a steroid in cream form
Thanks
Reminds me didn't Chad Mendes pop for something and he tried to cover up the intent by saying it must have been from a skin cream he used .. I cant remember exactly
@@abecsteve it was in his psoriasis cream. Explicitly listed as an ingredient but prescribed by a doctor. Sucks that he didn’t get it cleared with USADA but it was a n honest mistake that he owned up to.
Think it has anything to do with these suction cup marks on the fighters?
@@alexscragg3790 i don't think so, I've had that done before. There no 'supplements' used at all, just suction cups. But who's knows what they could be doing 😅
MPMD was talking about how it’s much easier for guys first coming into the UFC now to bypass testing since USADA mainly just creates existing baseline bio-markers for your blood analysis to check for any anomalies in the future. So if your sauced from day 1 on, then all of your future tests will look like your baseline… outside of easily testable substances.
Freaking meat head Groomers 😅🤦♂️
They don't have blinders on while examining the samples, they compare to the rest of the pool. There can't be one guy who is just naturally way higher in a hormone than everyone else.
My issue with the program is that I doubt everyone is being tested. Do they go to the favellas to get a sample? I doubt it.
how many people do you think live in the favellas and fight in the ufc
Reminds me of the meme where the kid took his drivers license photo while being high as a kite so when a cop pulls him over, he looks "normal"
@@henrydavis8190 Charles olivera for one. There are many Brazilian guys on undercards. Odds are one of them does too.
I think his main point is the people that live in other countries and hard to access areas definitely don't get tested as much.
We all know last week video was about chandler and what sparked it was the brutality of the KO and who the recipient of said KO was. Tony Ferg is Chaels kinda guy; always in shape , willing to fight anyone and didn't get to the top of the division and pull the ladder up behind him. All the things Chael always preaches. Chael obviously has known he's been juicing but for those reasons he was angry enough to make the video and although he didn't name names, there is a reason every other comment was about Samford MMA.
Usman Beat Colby, who is clean and basically Chael's son
Robbie Lawler basically tried to murder Ben Askren, Ben is clean and basically Chael's bro( they were Olympic teammates)
Chandler almost killed Tony Ferg ( who is also a former teammate, natty)
The Sanford bois be killing Chael''s bois
That's the first gym that came to my mind. Usman, chandler, burns. There's no way Durinho can fight at that high of a pace against Khamzat without gassin himself out unless he's juicing
@@shadow_realm47 Usman should be embarrassed at how close his fights were with Colby with his PEDs
@@felixlima7550 I think you really have to listen to a fighter's interview, and you have to read their personality. It's almost impossible to identify every cheater. But some fighters, you can rule out cheating based on their religious conviction and their integrity. Gilbert Burns gets a pass from me. He's not a "goon." He doesn't have any criminal background and he was raised with really good parents. Costa, is incredibly unreliable and unstable. Jon Jones, is the same. The really flaky guys with really questionable ethics and a lack of integrity, don't get a free pass.
@@Ritalie it’s not like they are taking heroin. Just some ped for the sport they’re in. I guess the rock is natty too since he’s a nice guy and religious ? I agree w what u say mostly but I think it’s a lot harder to guess based off of what we see. You never know what’s going on behind closed doors.
Chael is smart by saying the guesses were light years off he avoids any heat 😂😂
He knows we're right on the money lol
@@antoniocontreras7559 + some of the comments detailing everything/ saying according to inside sources 😂
They might be uncle chael spelling it out for us
@@rafikoumimou3503 he definitely spelled out Chandler and Sanford MMA lol
He got caught 😭😭😭
Exactly we know for sure Stamford MMA is one of them. My eye test is all 100%!
As Nate Diaz said everyone's on steroids.. Including himself. Usman has the body of an amateur body builder all while having the most insane cardio and suddenly has KO power. Same way Adesanya has had gyno on more than one occasion in his early 30's.
What ever came of Diaz popping for PEDs?
“Suddenly has KO power.” Yeah, like technique doesn’t help your punch land better yeah. Not like Usman never had power before and knocked out anyone before yeah. Not like he used his wrestling most of the time instead of throwing haymakers before adding in fundamentals. Fr tho, after that, your MMA knowledge is a little suspect ngl. Btw, Izzy has had no once, but TWICE for gyno. Wow so many times and it’s been months since the last time oh no
Usman’s cheating is so blatant and obvious. From fit and wrestler, and then out of nowhere chiseled in stone and now a boxer with KO power
@@thorn3802 Usman is clearly sauced tho. Dudes massive.
bodybuilder physique is due more to genetics than ped imo. i think the tummy is a better marker and better indicator. I know it's not conclusive by any means, but still likely to be a truer indicator. Usman's hint of bubble gut is suspect, not his biceps
if you believe that any human being that trains 3x a day cardio heavy, to failure while cutting weight and not losing muscle mass is not on PEDs, well I got bad news for you
usman
Bingo! It's not possible unless your in the top .0001% genetic freaks.
@@jfleming6870 him and Chandler
what bad news?
@@senthilvelan7490 that they ARE on peds
Im praying for a Chael and MorePlatesMoreDates collab
We all need to rally around that idea. If more and more people show interest, it will happen. Much like MPMD doing a collab with Joe Rogan.
The Bad Guy did a collab with Greg Douchet.
Now the real question is, how does Kevin Lee fit into all this.
Usman's brother is a Chemist 😂😂
Brother (Kashetu Usman) is a doctor. His dad is a chemist. Usman has the perfect storm to never be caught. His family can supply and test him well in advance.
@@iBussTooQuick no. his dad is a felon
@@calvincalvin3132 that just shows deceiving is part of usman’s blood
What happened in UFC 117 ??????
don't tell that to Colby 😂😂
"They're all on steroids" -Nate Diaz
They all are no doubt Usman, Izzy are on juice
Chandler
@Bill Stevens lies Usman just black they have better genetics so he looks like he’s on peds he’s not he’s just better
@@gibgibbo5738 Nah. Usman is off the juice. Also if they took out weight cutting he wouldn't be the champion anymore lmao. He looks like a fking light heavyweight not welterweight
@Bill Stevens colby on steroids too most likely, i mean he's 2nd best welterweight in world in a division swimming in steroids.
I think one of the most interesting things to happen in recent years is that some fighters that were 'over the hill' are now mounting up winning streaks. I won't name any names but it seems pretty obvious that they're 'enhanced'.
*cough* Glover *cough*
Aldo, Romero, Costa, maybe Usman
Dubronx lol
@@yrn_glucose you're a fool. Glovers always been a beast.
@@Dukeflyhawker Usman is not "maybe" he's the concensus CEO of EPO. Aldo is clearly on the sauce to make 135, I remember he was struggling to make 145 at one point. He teased going to 155 then all of a sudden he's making 135 with ease.
Usman is juicing, absolutely no way around that fact
@Mark Smith All that with knees so bad he can’t even run for cardio.
People who have never lifted in their life: yOuRe jUsT a hAtEr!!!!
His brother Kashetu Usman is a doctor and his dad is a chemist. He has the perfect team to make sure he stays ahead of testing with constant monitoring and the highest quality compounds you can get. No need to worry about sourcing your PEDs ever. Unlimited access to everything from Test to research chemicals nobody knows about.
He also goes to Chandler's gym and 95% of the comments have all agreed Chael was talking to chandler in the last video. I think Chael is tired of roided guys beating Natties. Usman beat Colby, Chandler almost killed Tony and starts celebrating knowing he cheated.
There are athletes in many sports who are on par with Usman’s muscle mass/explosiveness. Usman’s abilities are naturally attainable.
I would love to sit with Chael and talk about speech. His interpersonal skills are amazing. I love the indirect communication, the social manipulation, the undertones. Hes speaking on the highest of levels.
undefeated undisputed in the classroom
so much so my low iq brain just tunes out when he rants
It's a gift that's hard to learn. Some people just have it.
I try to analyze his speech skills aswell, they're very advanced, or maybe it's the storytelling. Who knows.
@@clifton6919 yea, gotta have some requisite knowledge already. I’m a psych graduate who’s also very interested in philosophy so all that stuff really interests me and I use it daily
Females
older women: McMann at 41, Holm at 40, Lauren Murphy at 38, Tate at 36 being shredded
Younger women: Shevchenko due to Tiger muay thai + performances
Eye test: Torress, Taila Santos, Andrade, Maverick, Fiorot and Araujo, Gatto (+bonus Mackenzie Dern having quite a few physique changes + her father is looking juicy considering his age)
Failed tests/gyms: Lemos, Carnelossi, Ribas all failed in the past, females from ATT like Ribas, Joanna, Both Nunes wives and that square jaw freak fighting at 155 in PFL (+bonus Penna was talking about females from ATT juicing when she was training there for a short time)
Males
Older men: Trinaldo at 43, Grant at 37 + bac(k)ne, Silva de Andrade at 37 the most shredded fighter in UFC, Hall at 38, Edgar at 40, dos Anjos&Barboza at 37, Holzman at 38, Lawler at 40
Eye test: Pavlovich, Rakic, Both Figgies, Knight, Gane(used to watch his muay thai fights; he looked way smaller + just look at the big bastard), Menifield, Muniz, Pereira, Walker, Wells, Simon, Gamrot, Price, Du Plessis, Stamann, Vieira, Buckley, Alhassan, Allen, Edwards,both Azaitars, Belal, Yadong, Marlon Moraes, THE FIGHTING FALMER, Rockhold and Costa look juicy as hell, Tsarukyan, Fiziev
Juicy camps: Dvalishvili, Weidman, Sterling | Ulberg, Kara-France, Adesanya, Riddell, Volkanovski, Hooker | Rodriguez, Usman, Burns brothers, Brunson, Chandler, Garry, Hawes, Fialho + Fiziev visits sometimes as well as Rakhmonov, there is a few Bellator guys as well
Performances: Ngannou recovery, looks and crazy power, Pimblett going from fat to shredded to fat in no time, Shredded Aldo having a resurgence at 135 at 36 years of age, Cannonier at 38 going down to 185 shredded from 240 + somehow getting better,
Failed tests: Vettori, Ortega, Dillashaw, O'Malley (ostarine; caught but cleared due to contaminated substance), Yair Rodriguez, Tafa, Cerrone (yes, cowboy failed a while ago + he is shredded at 39), Tukhugov and another teammate (one of the reasons why i think whole dagestani squad is on stuff, they are somehow all connected, all have great cardio, failed drug test from teammates, dominant performances)
Gotem!
Yeah, mate, really logical.
Whoever is performing good or genetically well built are on roids.
It's not just how fast Paddy can shread that is unreal. It's how fast he gets fat lol.. Like in a week and the guy dosen't look the same. Weili Zhang is also highly sus. Fails the eye test and has that
"impossible" combination of speed, power and cardio.
@@AM-wg7qv no, but its easier to talk about roids than genes and you cant deny that
Id rather like you to tell me what you dont agree with, because i just stated who i think possibly is on stuff
@@Suppermegamonkey oh yes weili i completely forgot about the girl, couldnt agree more!
Thank you for this video! As a dedicated fan I’ve never gotten enough information on how they got away with it.
Go to min 14:25 he explained
And you still don’t
Pls do more of these vids. So entertaining
Agreed, I want a slow burn until he reveals so much info that Dana white gets asked about it and it gains mainstream media coverage. I want Usman Chandler and Izzy busted by usada.
This is really great investigative style reporting
Chael has to speak in code because he can't let USADA get close.
Keep these coming my god I’m so interested in this topic and the way you bring the story to us. Don’t care if you don’t tell us the who or the how.
Chael proceed from declining our assumption that Chandler is one of them, to confirming that Chandler is one of them. Lol
That's the rumor
Yea he heavily implied in his last video Chandler is on them.
Be careful; if we keep this up Chandler's wife will adopt another 3 kids and get full sleeves of tattoos celebrating it, so that he becomes untouchable in the media
@@executivelifehacks6747 he's definitely playing up the nice guy act to win over fans and dodge ped accusations. Josh Thomson said he is fake and a dirt bag behind cameras
@@antoniocontreras7559 i hadnt heard that before. dude has always gave me master manipulator vibes tho. like sociopathic level.
Congrats on 1 mil subs!!!!
“How few peds there are in mma” damn chael is having a laugh 😂 when they get out of your system in a few days and you can miss 3 tests a year it ain’t hard to cheat usada
Your speaking out of experience?
@@treacheroustrouser4652 the test are pretty damn accurate they can find it in your body if they wanted. Most of these guys are taking boutique compounds of gear that really do not exists (yet)
*Crossfit has entered the chat....
I think the real question is how is USADA beating Jon Jones
He hasn't fought in over two years and USADA / UFC won't reveal test results or suspensions unless the fight does first.
Because doping isn't actually easy. Russian athletes are not tested IN Russia. They're only tested in America, that's why they get away with.
He hasn’t. I think he got caught once and a another time he turned into female(according to testosterone levels)before the Cormier fight so he could take whatever he wanted and usada wouldn’t be able to detect it.
@@orange_penis Must've been a long 8hrs under the gym ring!
The video that put chael over 1 million subs. Congrats bad guy 👏🏾
Tiger Muay thai and Sanford MMA are the best gyms if you want to get “really fit”. They all seem to have a great physique…
Strange
They all put on their work boots and work hard to see each other at the top!
Chael is BRILLIANT!!!!! …
Gyms in question:
- Stanford MMA: ?Usman (huge, phenomenal strength and skin side effects) and Chandler (looks jacked, strength and power)
- City Kickboxing: ?Adesanya (gynaecomastia) and Volkanovski (looks jacked and power/strength)
- Conor McGregor (he can afford it, he ‘retired’- so couldn’t be tested for a while to jack up his body)
- Anyone who goes to Thailand for an ‘intense’ training camp.
Substance:
- Testosterone: ( very short half life so possible to beat the test if timed well). Mega doses of old aren’t necessary as most people aren’t using it so you just need a little more than your opponent, so it will be easier to avoid detection and minimise side effects.
- Growth Hormone: undetectable so everyone would be using this. Very expensive so reserved for the upper echelons of prize fighter.
Method of administration:
- I’m speculating here, but I’d say topical cream. Their ‘massage therapist’ would apply the correct dose on them topically without their knowledge during their daily massage ( which all professional atheletes have daily). Testosterone can be absorbed and administered topically with fairly accurate dosing possible.
- Adding it to their food is also possible but the absorption of testosterone is less stable this manner.
- Injections would not be done as this would be done ‘without’ the knowledge of the athlete so they have an alibi.
It’s clever to point out that the athlete doesn’t ‘fully know’ so as to create a perfect and authentic display of disbelief and denial for any accusations.
A doctor and chemist are involved with the trainer of they gym to assist with the preparation and timing of the doses.
The trainers ( or athletes) when left alone are just too dumb and will always slip up. They need to keep this a third party intervention done at ‘arms length’ without the ‘knowledge’ of the athlete.
Another possible way is to be officially on TRT for ‘medical’ reasons. Just get a blood test post cycle when your endogenous production has shut down and present to a doctor. They will state your levels are low and prescribe you TRT. Now you can ask for a medical exemption from USADA and legally take testosterone during competition.
The perfect crime.
Disclaimer: This opinion is purely for speculation and entertainment purposes without evidence on the gyms and athletes mentioned.
Source?
@@TheMrComentarista The ‘sauce’ they are taking is testosterone 😂. The source of information regarding the use of drug is education. The gym and people in question is speculation
UFC no longer allows the TRT exemption. That’s why Vitor came back to earth when he could no longer use that loophole
@@vader3161333 the TRT exemption has been gone forever now its not that easy now lol
@@bubsterjohnson7438 bioidentical test doesnt pop on a test. We all have it. As long as you can keep it to a certain ratio. Also epo is very hard to test for.
K.O Tony Ferguson is a tell-tale sign that your whole gym is sus
Usman his father is also a pharmacist and biologist I believe also
Chandler
Costa
Jones
Also TJs biggest give away that he was using during the Cody fight was his recovery in 60 seconds from that knock down that screamed epo and oxygen
Usman is on steroid but Conor McGregor is not ok - White boys
Absolutely!!! Usman is juiced
usmans dad wouldn't have anything to do with it..its all thru the gym. and u can't just pick one or two athletes and say they're doing it when Chael clearly said ALL
thank you. watch chandler vs alvarez 1. michael chandler was in serious trouble in round 3, saved by the bell basically. 1 minute later he came back with one of the craziest in between rounds comebacks i have ever seen and he went on to win the fight
USADA never did anything Lance Armstrong passed 216 USADA tests while being on EPO and HGH the entire time admitted it 10 years later and they had to go to the 17th place to find the first cycler that wasnt juiced. Cant believe yall on YOutube think USADA ever did anything when HGH and EPO stay in your system for only 24 to 48 hours but the effects last a month lol. Every top fighter rn and in history is and was on steroids/PEDS especially GSP ran away as soon drug testing came in and always looked juiced and had an HGH gut
even fucking Sean O Malley is on PEDS you dont have to look like Izzy or Usman lol O Malley already popped twice and was 2 years off because of that,
USADA has their people in every country.. Do yall really think some guy in Dagestan or Russia actually tests these guys they just tip him a few thousands and he takes anothers mans piss lol
also the UFC never would let a draw/star test positive for soooo many years now look at Izzy and fucking Usman
Mad Respect to Uncle Chael,
Pulling back the curtain on this.
Best place to hide something: right out in the open! 🔥
As 1 million subscriber special you must drop an video of the faithful night 1 vs 5
I always thought GSP was juicing , dude just outa no where retires not long before USADA started testing
he left due to no USADA , Hendricks was juiced to the gills and George always called for more testing , he only came back for USADA
thats a myth, they are good enough and have enough help to hide from usada. if that was the case you could say that about khabib to.....but then why hasn't usman retired as he's clearly juicing
So glad Chael is exposing these cheaters *cough Chandler*
He adopts kids so he can pass.
@@irish_vanity LOL
@@irish_vanity don't forget he adopts black kids so that's raises his social credits +10000000000
@@Ryan-uw1pl he actually adopts because his balls can't produce semen anymore from PED use
Usman and Izzy too it seems.
Can’t wait for Chael to hit 1million
Chael should rat everyone out. The response from Dana, the media, usada and overall would be hilarious. He should just drop all the names. He knows everyone who's on stuff.
even if its true he'd get sued because he cant prove it
Without disclosing the source or pointing at specific fighter names, there's people who have pretty solid insider information on gyms that currently have rampant PED usage issues, a few for example being:
Jackson Wink
City Kickboxing
Trevor Wittman (Onx Sports, etc)
Xtreme Couture (Chael would very likely know about this one)
Serra-Longo Fight Team
Sanford MMA
MMA Factory
Should also mention that the now defunct Blackzilians were also pretty internally infamous for this.
There are a few more that are currently under some degree of scrutiny, but these are the only concrete ones.
The idea that it's only lone athletes cheating on their own is completely false. In times and places where this happens, it almost always operates at a club level.
To add to that Sanford MMA is one of the two where he said 100% of the fighters there are on it, which Usman Chandler and Belfort are and have been in. I'm trying to figure out the second gym
Sterling looks like he juiced recently. I want to believe Chris Weidman never did tho. But who knows
@@MaynardOwns chris had a very dubious t/e ratio for one of his fights.
@@stephencox8723 I think I remember, I know test can fluctuate when you’re training and it can naturally drop but idk if it can get so high without help some sort of help
Izzys Tiddy is suspect
Chael, in a previous video you told us exactly how the Turkish coach was delivering the peds to his athletes.
what was that video?
@@wypas17 I don't remember but I remember exactly how they did it
How did they do it
@@nickmonadi if Chael ain't wanna tell y'all I'm not going to
@@maxblumenfeld5824 wtf 😂😂😂
“Eye test is ONE HUNDRED percent”
“To watch how prevalent it is... (Yet) we have (only) FIVE guys doing it in the entire sport (sarcastically). Except for the TWO specific, locations. All of em.. so they’re just all really good. They’re all training, it’s purely a coincidence. They’re solid performers, they’re the next Ed Norton. They were in the wrong industry.. maybe??”
Chael is saying this gym must just be phenomenal, turning out absolute units and champions, and no one in the gym ever pops. I think he’s talking about Sanford MMA (Henri Hooft), here’s some notables:
Ryan Bader
Kamaru Usman
Michael Chandler
Robbie Lawler
Luke Rockhold
Vitor Belfort
Rashad Evans
Gilbert Burns
Derek Brunson
Andre Fialho
Vicente Luque
What could the other gym be?
JW
City kickboxing
The Blackzillians, Usman WAS there and so was Vitor and Overeem
@@blakeh1721 The blackzillions no longer exists there now defunct. But your almost right though blackzillionz turned into you guessed it Samford MMA 😂😂 can’t make that show up
@@gabrielguy8977 yeah it’s the point I was tryna make,the two biggest PED cheats came from there and so did Usman
Chael’s about to pop that 1mi subs
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The guy who runs the WMMA Scene Now channel said that with the exception of Dillashaw, which was a blatant case, it seems like USADA is only catching smaller players, and higher-profile fighters are more adept at working around testing systems, USADA or otherwise. Granted, Erin Blanchfield was given a verbal warning for not obtaining a TUE for topical spiranolactone, and she's ranked.
Maybe smaller players are being paid to be guinea pigs. By the time the big boys are taking the new recipe they know USADA isn't detecting it.
I do find it a little bit sad when people make statements implying that "everyone" wants to cheat, just "because they can." I've been watching MMA since 2006, and the UFC has changed drastically since USADA was implemented. What people don't seem to realize is that many people actually want to follow the rules, because they don't want to put their career in the hands of USADA. USADA has the power to "flag" someone. Don't you think they would flag Francis for PED's if they could? If they flag someone for a failed test, they have the ability to control their career, and the fighter loses all their financial leverage. Francis is fully aware of the career damage for a failed test. Some fighters would rather work super hard, than risk an accidental failed test. Prior to USADA, every champion in every weight class, was obviously on PED's. Later, you started seeing "normal" looking fighters having a career resurgence. As a fan, I am really happy that "most" of the fighters are clean now.
@@Ritalie The guys who don't need to cheat probably don't want to in large numbers. But people are put in tough spots. The guy who isn't quite good enough to make the UFC might be if he takes PEDs. Well now the guy who was good enough without PEDs might lose his spot in the UFC if he doesn't also cheat because he is facing people on PEDs. And it snowballs. Same thing happens in other sports, at least on the lower levels. The stars cheat to make even more money and be even better but the non stars in many cases cheat to get into or stay in a league they otherwise might not be able to be a part of.
The overwhelming of all top athletes are on something.
My 1991 highschool football we were all on soemtbing and we weren’t a top team.
I remember when Ben Johnson was busted in the 88-92 Olympics. ?? In the 100 m.
Carl Lewis whines so hard Johnson lost his gold. Years later 8 of 10 samples from the race popped.
After that first video,I KNEW ol Chael was gonna make a sequel video because the first one got hella views.
It'll make his sponsors happy for sure!
6:36 WE NEED A FULL VIDEO ON THIS
Almost a million subs damn chael moving on up!!!!
Theres no way Iron Chandler is not on something. Dan Hooker is on something; to make 145 he was def on something. So is Adesanya. And Usman.
Chandler with that gut is most def on something lol
@@ArkusVI he's on gorilla testosterone
Usman is on everything
"Iron Chandler" gives me images of Chandler from friends with a Tyson tattoo on his face, sarcastically threatening reporters
I’ve done a couple cycles of different types of steroids. It’s SO easy to get away with it. Literally everyone in mma is on some type of “steroid”
Uncle Chael must’ve been paid to make this video. I don’t see any other reason a former UFC star and G.O.A.T. to make a video like this.
please correct me if im wrong but I believe the 2 big places Chael says all the juicers come from are city kick boxing and sanford MMA. Bobby green exposed Tiger Muay Thai recently and lots of city kickboxing fighters train at tiger muay thai as well.
You're the first comment i've that actually listened to what he said. Everyone is just throwing out wild guesses naming fighters when he specifically said that it's two teams. City Kickboxing has to be one. I know they do Everything as a team. Not sure about the other one though.
keep it up with this content chael. undefeated and f'n undisputed
i've been waiting for the sequel
Something similar actually happened at my college. One of the power lifters pissed off one of the other guys. The guy worked at a smoothie store and would add some stuff to the guys daily smoothie, hoping it would get him popped and ruin his career and scholarship. Backfired because the power lifter never popped and ended up winning the national championship. No one ever found out about it, but had some friends at the smoothie store that told me about it after it happened.
The smoothie guy was lying. That is a felony and he would have done serious prison time. Especially is the added substances were illegal to start with. There are at least 5 felonies that would have taken place, that is around 25 years, not worth it, dude was lying.
@@toddbertram6556 how would they have proved he did it though?
@@timm285 because the smoothie workers are witnesses? Isn’t that self explanatory?
Defo bullshit
You were the guy who believed that kid who's dad worked at Sony and he had a PS3 at home 3 weeks after the PS2 launch weren't you 😂
US athletes were using for the Olympics back into the late 60s (World Games) to early 70s (Munich), etc etc not just Russia. I know for fact guys were taking Winstrol in Track and Field, not just Russia/Germany etc. Not going to name names, but PEDs were widespread across ALL athletics.
I saw a documentary about it. It also wasn't considered such a bad thing bacj then and alot was allowed.
Taking all those chemicals would wreak havoc on a man hormones. It could even get so bad he might at some point later in life think he was supposed to be a woman...
@@asimpson164 There are in fact, some instances of eastern european women athletes who were so pumped up with andro and anobolic type substances (including little known turinobol), that they did in fact begin to identify as males and switched genders later in life.
@@blaineturnacliff7907 Yeah. OP said he knew from experience people that used PEDs but wasn't going to name names, so I hinted at a specific person's situation later in life. Even in the 1970's they didn't really understand the effects of anabolics.
They probably been using from before that in the 1920s in the TDF they used coke in the 30s until 60s it was amphetamine and steroids from that
How to beat drug tests:
1. use a substance that isnt going to show up on tests - many old inferior and forgotten steroid compounds have been used over the years to do this until they get recognised.
2. cycling off before competition - the most common, use steroids, get them out of your system before competition, keep gains for around 6 months after. (fighter needing 6 month training camps etc even though they have been fighting for years at world class level)
3. have a B sample ready to beat the 3 strike rule: even if you fail laughably on the first 2 tests nobody will ever hear about it unless your 3rd test also fails, if its clean you are clean. Much easier to do if you have a big sponsor like Nike to occur a clean B sample just in time, this is used to beat the random drug tests (and if you are Serena Williams you call the cops and lock yourself in a safe room when they knock at your door if you know you are going to get a 3rd strike)
4. use other drugs to heavily mask the ratio of T to ET , if the tests only measure a ratio your actual levels although completely suspicious will be in "normal" range. See Jon Jones and his T/ET ratios which are impossible to achieve unless using a LOT of PEDs
5. become the cash cow of the UFC or other sporting org, be the person that they profit massively from, be a part of their hype train and you will never fail a drug test because they will make sure you dont while keeping your diet more equal than equal. See state sponsored doping, GDR in 70s, 80s, Jamaica 2000s, 2010s, 2020s Russia 2010s etc Any UFC champion with a hype train behind them. organizations dont choose to make short term gain decisions like hype trains without protecting their investments. Where there is money there is someone protecting their investments, a hype train is a monetary risk.
6. find an excuse like tainted supplements and make sure there is a manufactured happening of this to support the story if you 3 strike. When USADA check the supplement store they find contaminated products because they were planted there beforehand.
7. never admit to it. Jon Jones was caught red handed but because he was the cash cow he was able to say in court " I will never admit to taking steroids" this was good enough for him to be able to carry on with no punishment. Theres plenty of obvious drug users who deny use to the death, Jarmila Kratochvílová the GDR runner who holds the world record in the womens 800m the clearest example. As Chael explains the easiest way to keep a favoured athlete to keep denying use is to not tell them about it in the first place. Marion Jones denied use to the point of lying to the feds which is the actual reason she was disgraced, lying, not cheating. Her admittance of it after evidence was brought forth was the nail in the coffin, if she had been unaware of doping and maintained her innocence she wouldve been running at the next majors.
8. blame eggs for high T/GH levels
9. medical exemptions for extra T to resolve abnormally low levels of T that are obviously brought on by heavy PED use, see Hendo and TRTitor who both legally abused this, they arent cheaters so much as they exposed the method and were legally cleared to compete. See also Bigfoot Silva who for a while was granted extra T to sustain his "normal" levels of T that had dropped dramatically caused by the tumor that made his body produce a lot of extra growth hormone being removed, his normal levels were off the chart for regular athlete.
10. fight somewhere/train somewhere that doesnt test. Pudzianowski is doing quite well in KSW....
11. I dont know shit about mma but never disregard your own common sense
12. Chael is undisputed, undefeated
“But I know “ 😂🤣😂 You have to love Chael.
When Chael says “how” they do it is important I believe he’s referring to method of delivery. When he says USADA unintentionally told people how to beat the test, I think he means that they indicated that they detect specifically for injections. Perhaps this is related to why IVs are banned (dunno). Other methods of delivery are oral (in pills) and dermal (lotions on skin)
Olympians also used to swish steroids mixed in alcohol and then spit it out. Essentially sublingual & inner cheeks are instant blood flow access. Also IVs are banned because of something like mini plastics that coverup other signs (maybe like you're saying via injections should it come from the tube housing the peds)
Adesanya could end the nationwide formula shortage by himself.
Classic chael. Hahaha leaving us wanting more at the end there🤣🤣🤣
thank you for the content
A lot of 2 year absences are USADA bans. They don’t announce the results publicly anymore: Cejudo, Jon, Conor, Khabib etc. All these 2 year hiatuses
i think conor just cant be fucked, whats the chances that the ufc's biggest draw doesnt know exactly how to beat usada's drug test. makes no sense. even if conor was/is clean, dana would still tell him how to pass it just in case.
Which khabib hiatus are you even referring to? If it is 2014-2016, he kept having fights planned but he got injured, knees, back, broken ribs etc. If you mean post conor, well he got suspended
@@stephenhartley2853 very possible. Whenever someone disappears for 2 years I question their absence now.
@@haniabduelamier9197 i am not saying for sure I am just saying announcing names of people caught is better. Not announcing it will make every absence look suspicious
Nah, with Conor and Khabib it was a mix of injuries, suspensions and just waiting for the "right fights", Cejudo was just greedy and wanted more money to fight again but Jon I agree, it's most definitely a USADA ban.
Is this recent content due to Mr. Chandler?
Hey chael I know what you’re getting at but in regards to micro dosing it absolutely does work for usada as well as IOC I have absolutely beat tests from both orgs while micro dosing
Can we have a part three?
Maaan, Chael is calling somebody out. Idk who but these PED videos really came out of left field, even for Chael’s standards
Dude it's Michael Chandler he's upset how Chandler knocked out Tony Ferguson and started celebrating. The end of his last PEDs in 2022 video all but confirms it's Chandler. He says there's a man who does the cross sign, blesses God, raises his arms in celebration as his opponent is half dead on the mat. Then asks how that man can sleep at night. He points out all the gyno on his pecs, the nipples, the upper abdomen. He doesn't snitch on him by name but the timing and description is 100% Chandler.
chandler. tony is his guy
I'd guess there are 4 gyms he could be talking about;
Onx, Sanford, City Kick Boxing, and Jackson Wink.
I'd bet money Sanford is one, just look at their roster, every single guy is absolutely jacked to a level that is ridiculous even for MMA fighters. Also well known cheaters fight out of there, Vitor Belfort comes to mind. Chael is trying to say rather than the whole gym knowingly cheating he suspects they are being dosed without their knowledge and that's why their celebrations look genuine.
Also Chael in his last video is talking about how he stopped using PEDs once Dana had a press conference talking about how dangerous it is for the other fighter and you can kill someone.
The biggest damage we saw last card was Michael Chandler, out of Sanford MMA, head kick Tony Ferguson so hard that Chandler actually fractured his shin from the force and left Tony unconscious for several minutes with leg crossing permanent brain damage and probably a severe concussion.
At least that's my read on what he's saying without saying it, but Chael is speaking in a lot of half completed thoughts.
Chandler
And Jones
One of the ways someone can test positive without knowing is through a topical cream or lotion. Coaches will rub an athlete down a few times a week and certain PEDs will legit get into the system that way. Idk if that’s what the coaches used in Istanbul that Chael was talking about, but I do know that that happens and coaches have for sure done that.
It’s cocktails in alcohol a doctor snuck it in their drinks without them knowing
it's what was used in Istanbul and it's exactly what chael is talking about. among other ways but the cream is definitely used in multiple gyms
Alllllllllllllllllllllllllmost 1M Subs Uncle Chael!! Let's goo buddy!!!
Nearly at 1 million subscribers!!!! Party at the bad guys next week
He talked about this before in a older episode he’s saying the coaches are giving it to them like the Russians did with out them knowing
That's Chaels way of spilling the beans while also protecting the fighters. The fighters are knowingly juicing. That's like the Barry Bonds situation. They place the blame elsewhere, like a doctor or coach, while they simultaneously see their body and performance transform into godly levels. It's insane to think these fighters don't know they're juicing.
This is a question Usman probably has the answer to
Him and Mike chandler
@@antoniocontreras7559 they train together lol
@@PcCAvioN exactly lol. I think Vitor Belfort trained there too.
If anyone is curious they used to try another gym called the blackzillions that was notorious for PED usage. That Gym became defunct and became Sanford MMA.
@@gabrielguy8977 damn that's interesting.
I love chaels channel I learn so much. Well be veterans 20 years from now
i personally thought it was pretty even with those checked leg kicks. Feel like it should count as a block like when a punch hits your hands when you have them up.
"I will not get jammed up".... that sounds like a prediction. So according to the Chael curse he is about to "get jammed up".
We could've had people fighting on psychedelics with a D.J. battle going on between their corners and had tons of Dock Ellis moments by now.
One of the most random things I’ve ever read in a TH-cam.M comment haha 👏
@@LowkeyLukeDnB The other comments were boring me. ;)
You, Coach Greg and More Plates More Dates should get together to do a PED eye test power rankings. S-D tier as a measurement of how likely they are to be on PED’s.
1 million lets go boys!!!!!
Like the spider ufc cribs the GH was is his closet hahaha using it so long he forgot to remove it before filming 😅
Step 1: Claim it was from a tainted suppliments/ burrito
The Canelo meat excuse
How does that even work tho? Usada has to test random supplement bottles by the same brand and if only the bottles owned by the fighter contains a banned substance then they can't blame the supplement? Those supplement brands then go to the Usada warning list and if a fighter still uses them they don't get away with it.
@@dolphinwithahandgun7094 they put test on farm animals in Mexico to make them larger. Someone published a study on it. That tacos in Mexico are tainted with peds. The whole thing is a farce.
@@shadow_realm47 yeah meat but tainted supplements
Chael collab with plates more dates to cover this topic more! (maybe review Michael Chandler)
The hard thing is. For them to test for it they have to have a sample of said chemical they are testing for. If they chemicals have been altered then they have no data as a control so they cant test for it.
How Marty Juiceman the CEO of EPO beating USADA?
Don’t be upset black fighters are just genetically superior he doesn’t need steroids he just slaps up the competition cos he’s a beast Colby a weak little white boi
@@gibgibbo5738 not upset at all, I actually agree that fighters of African descent are genetically superior. I’m a fan of Kamaru I just think that he’s on the juice man. Have a great day don’t let the white man hold you down!
How could genetically inferior humans hold U down if ur superior??
@Zak Hughes they don’t there’s a reason black people dominate sports, what did you think it was a coincidence haha?
Chael bout to expose the whole company if ESPN doesn’t reinstate him.
@Mark Smith he's using his reach and audience to send a message to Chandler, Usman and the two gyms. I love that he's doing this. Time to catch these guys. Last big name that got caught off the top of my head is Dillashaw. Time to catch a big name like Chandler, Usman, Volk, Adesanya, etc. Send a message to the roster that nobody is safe
Facts! 💯🗣
Integrity First...
999k subs btw 👀 close to the jackpot.
Mikey Chandler sweatin’
Yeah, that guy looks like he is on something. Hes stomach looks weird.
It's likely the reason why USADA isn't popping fighters left and right is because they're using something that USADA isn't actually looking for, thus it won't really pop up on the list🤷🏽♂️
Exactly they need to know what they're testing for first that's why cheating is so easy
I think usada only tests samples when someone asks Dana white for more money, and they'll randomly pop someone expendable to make it look like their legit. They popped Dillashaw right after he lost to cejudo in 30 seconds. Had he beat cejudo he probably wouldn't have been tested. They never catch an active marketable champ, and when they do (Jon Jones) they start talking picograms and cover it up
USADA never did anything Lance Armstrong passed 216 USADA tests while being on EPO and HGH the entire time admitted it 10 years later and they had to go to the 17th place to find the first cycler that wasnt juiced. Cant believe yall on YOutube think USADA ever did anything when HGH and EPO stay in your system for only 24 to 48 hours but the effects last a month lol. Every top fighter rn and in history is and was on steroids/PEDS especially GSP ran away as soon drug testing came in and always looked juiced and had an HGH gut
even fucking Sean O Malley is on PEDS you dont have to look like Izzy or Usman lol O Malley already popped twice and was 2 years off because of that,
USADA has their people in every country.. Do yall really think some guy in Dagestan or Russia actually tests these guys they just tip him a few thousands and he takes anothers mans piss lol
also the UFC never would let a draw/star test positive for soooo many years now look at Izzy and fucking Usman
We need more info
About to hit that 1 million mark!
😅 uncle Chael talking about Sarms 💪🏻
what about it?
@@dolphinwithahandgun7094 do research!
@@MataChatas do my laundry
We can all agree Tony deserved better.
I hate how he got knocked by a juiced up gorilla after actually winning his first round in 3 years and looking like vintage El Cucuy
@@antoniocontreras7559 Not to mention the gorillas humble celebration.
Hahahhaha uncle chael being uncle Chael! 💯
You told us in a previous story how the coach got it into his system
Love this video. Everybody in pro sports is on steroids. Even table tennis players.
My favorite are when people are saying actors are not on the juice 😂
@@Frankburnsred actors, athletes, ig influencers, frat houses its everywhere you look if you know what to look for lol
@@sweg9457 I've always thought then frat house guys were hugeeeeee for their age. Is it common for them to be on gear?
@@jamespeters6891 so many of my boys blew tf up between freshman and sophomore years and I was like wtf. Most of them were open about it too it was very interesting
The only way I know of to beat USADA testing is to use testosterone that has the same carbon isotope ratio as your own, and with some money and the right connections that isn’t too hard to do. They would still have to be careful to not dose too high as that would draw attention, but if they used an ester-free test base then their levels would drop to normal within 8-12 hrs and would pass a test. The down side is it’ll be hard to hide some of the side effects since they can’t use aromatase inhibitors as they are highly detectable. This is why if an athlete doesn’t have their mammary glands removed, they’ll readily form gynecomastia which can be removed, but if it happens during fight week they won’t have time to have the surgery done. We’ve seen a fairly recent example of this..I’m sure some of the canceled fights over the past few years have been due to this reason. (Intentionally not naming any fighters)
also you can dodge USADA 2x. only the 3rd time you get penalized.
U must b taking bout izzy
@@matthewmartinez2417 Yeah I like Izzy so I’m not tryna throw shade, but for the people “in the know” that was super obvious!
@@user-fx5cd4px3k True, so if they’re running a strict protocol it’s really not that hard to get away with it cause there aren’t any metabolites lingering that USADA can test for.
12:20 me too. it's the ole "tainted supplement" excuse
The oooooold D-Bol in the spaghetti trick