There are so many examples of this in every area of life. My spiritual baseline was growing up in a non-religious culture, post-Atheist. I didn't know many Atheists. Religious groups kept to their own unless you seek it out. I've become very spiritual and now explore religions widely on my own. The more I explore the more obvious these baselines become, particularly when you look at technology and how that changes lifestyles. I think we've reached the "baseline singularity", where changes are happening so fast that nobody can make sense of it. But, we also notice it because it's happening within our lifetimes right in front of us. Desiring a return to nature and integrating into simpler lifestyles without all this fancy, toxic industrial junk is a mainstream view across cultures, religions and politics these days. I moved across the country recently and I'm a youth counselor online in international groups, so I see it daily.
I LOVED this interview so much. I mean, I’ve loved every interview you’ve done but this is one of my top fives. Such important information. Thank you for conducting it, Nate.
The second time I’m hearing this, even more brilliant. How important and wonderful to hear, such passionate and wise scholars weigh in on critical issues like this…
I agree, but it worth noting he mentioned climate change as the driver in the same sentence, but it would be more to do with use of large scale pesticides etc. Insects thrive in warmer climate.
@@em945 So much talk about climate change while we also are facing multiple serious problems. Pesticide and herbicide use, habitat loss due to monocropping and human expansion into formerly wild areas, over-fishing, etc etc etc. We are in serious trouble but each generation sees the world as normal.
here is our 2 page summary from Reality Blind college textbook: read.realityblind.world/view/975731937/99/ and here is Daniels TED talk from way back: th-cam.com/video/Hui5YH-D6Go/w-d-xo.html
I wonder what will happen when change is so rapid theres no such a thing as a baseline...nothing as we will likely be dead as a result of loss of habitat as a direct result of rapid environmental change.
My baseline was watching the guy fill up the car with premium. Later, I couldn't believe the public was being forced to pump its own gas. I thought people were going to burn up. Silly kid!
There are so many examples of this in every area of life.
My spiritual baseline was growing up in a non-religious culture, post-Atheist. I didn't know many Atheists. Religious groups kept to their own unless you seek it out. I've become very spiritual and now explore religions widely on my own.
The more I explore the more obvious these baselines become, particularly when you look at technology and how that changes lifestyles. I think we've reached the "baseline singularity", where changes are happening so fast that nobody can make sense of it. But, we also notice it because it's happening within our lifetimes right in front of us. Desiring a return to nature and integrating into simpler lifestyles without all this fancy, toxic industrial junk is a mainstream view across cultures, religions and politics these days. I moved across the country recently and I'm a youth counselor online in international groups, so I see it daily.
I LOVED this interview so much. I mean, I’ve loved every interview you’ve done but this is one of my top fives. Such important information. Thank you for conducting it, Nate.
The second time I’m hearing this, even more brilliant. How important and wonderful to hear, such passionate and wise scholars weigh in on critical issues like this…
So Climate scientists have done this with pre industrial baseline. They often use a base line after 1950 which can be confusing
The dead bug windshield is a good example.
I agree, but it worth noting he mentioned climate change as the driver in the same sentence, but it would be more to do with use of large scale pesticides etc.
Insects thrive in warmer climate.
@@em945 So much talk about climate change while we also are facing multiple serious problems. Pesticide and herbicide use, habitat loss due to monocropping and human expansion into formerly wild areas, over-fishing, etc etc etc. We are in serious trouble but each generation sees the world as normal.
@Karen Koerner yes, human overshoot, or anthropogenic overshoot has many symptoms.
I appreciate this clip. Had to listen to it a few times to understand the definition, but also I'm not very smart.
here is our 2 page summary from Reality Blind college textbook: read.realityblind.world/view/975731937/99/ and here is Daniels TED talk from way back: th-cam.com/video/Hui5YH-D6Go/w-d-xo.html
J. B. MacKinnon's "Once and Future World" provides many examples of this. Also related: Environmental Amnesia. Also see "boiling frogs".
I wonder what will happen when change is so rapid theres no such a thing as a baseline...nothing as we will likely be dead as a result of loss of habitat as a direct result of rapid environmental change.
As long as we don’t go above 1.5C pre industrial, I mean 1.5C above the 1990- 2020 average, I think we’ll be fine.
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Generation Jones has seen a few baselines, or debased-lines I'd reckon.
does anyone know where the Shifting baselines video "Little Fish" can still be accessed? thanks in advance
The bible tells me we turn promised land into desert wherever we live. The bible is our handbook for our agrarian future,viewed through the right lens
The good news is that at the current exponential rate of change, future gens may not be around to worry.
My baseline was watching the guy fill up the car with premium. Later, I couldn't believe the public was being forced to pump its own gas. I thought people were going to burn up. Silly kid!
Ha! Residents of New Jersey still believe that!