i saw this at my school last semester! my friends and i were in our club meeting and all of a sudden we heard shouting! we checked to see what was going on and found a man and his two sons i think stomping and shouting just like this! we were so confused, but they were performing for our international festival. it's nice to finally understand what was going on! thanks for the post
lazusaq61 sagol cok tsk ediyorum yorumun icin ama yinede onlarda sonucda karadenizi temsil eden arkadaslarimiz bence hersey güzeldi onlarda ozaman yeniydiler bukadar yine iyi oynadilar. ben orda kemence calan. kemenceyi begendin icin tekrar tsk ediyorum. saygilar kemenceci Aydin Akyol
yes it is a greek word. you also dance "tsiftetelli" the word means double stringed in turkish,"hasapiko", kasap means butcher in turkish" and etc. etc. we lived together at least for 1000 years. it's very normal.
bence zannediyorum ilk okulda ögrenmişler oynamayı şimdide hatırladıkları kadarları ile oynuyorlar böyle düşündügümüz zaman gayet başarılı tebrik ediyorum :D
@progonolatreia ...... And i am glad to see that the greek Horon is preserved and danced by turks too. No matter what, no matter how, the moslim pontians consider themselves "turks". The fact that they once were greek speaking rumi(that would make them "greeks' today), just raises feelings of affection and not hatred towards them...
haha ich schließe mich dem kommentar von DeejayNeloBerlin an, weil ich auch in seiner tanzgruppe bin :P bencede dahi iyi oynamaniz lazim und die komuts sind wirklich komisch :P xD und es fehlt irgendwie die lust zum tanzen irgendwie ohne elan anlatabilirsem :P jungs übung macht den meister macht einfach weiter belki irgendwann bizim gibi olacaksiniz :P hehe :D
arkadaslar ayaginiza saglik kulturumuzu yassattiginiz icin ayrica saul ama Akcaabat horonu boyle oynanmaz figurleri tam iyi yapamiyonuz akcaabat durusu yok.
As you all see the culture of the black sea (pontos/karadeniz) people is one. The fashion of nations had to divide them in Turks (the moslim ones) and Greeks (the christian ones)... and the pain started... simple as that brothers...
just made research about kemence,you can see kemence in china,in kazakhstan,in uzbekstan and Turk belong to that family. if you say "kemence is greek" people may laugh at you.and i politely remind you pontian and Turkic people lived almost 800 year side by side,search "culture alliance"
MY dear greek friends, even you are right about greek orijin of people in blacksea it does not matter. you look at the issue from wrong side. yes we turks descend from many public from anatolia and also central asia. We do not regret that as you always regret that some of you have also turkish orijin. Millions of turkish came from anatolia used to speak and write turkish by using greek alphabets which we say KAraman Turks. The only difference was their religion. Ortodox Turkish...
@mahonieneslihan ich persönlich habe die Kommentar nicht Geschrieben ,es tut mir leit ,mein pc ist ohne meines Wiesens benutzt worden. Persönlich ist mir egal wer wie Tanzt ,das ist jedem überlasen wie er Tanzt , ich mache darüber keine ab felligen Bemerkungen OK .
@progonolatreia @progonolatreia to start with, i am against any aggressive attitude towards cultures, nations, peoples. But yes, just the fact that the word "horon" is greek, indicates a lot. The word is still there, simply because the now "turks" of Pontos, were once rumi, who became turks, just because they were converted into moslims. The fact also my friend, is, that religion was all that mattered then,to have the distinction between greeks and turks. Not the origin, not the race...
@TrnRptr ben tam olarak ifade edemedim sanırım kusuruma bakma demek istediğim şu bu ülkede evet birden çok kültür var buraya kadar doğru ama insanların etnik kökeninin zamanla türkleşmesi gibi oyunları da bütün olmuştur zaman içerisinde ben sadece şunu demeye çalışıyorum belli bir yöreye ait oyunun sadece o yöre insanından başka hiç bir yörede oynanamıyacağı düşüncesi saçmalıktır benim için bu gün bir egelinin halay dendiğinde bırak onu harmandalına bak demek üzücü bir durum
yani yöre oyunun dışarda adeta bir yasakmış düşüncesinin aşılanması can sıkar yoksa oyunların kökenlerine bir şey demem yalnız bir durum daha var biz toplum olarak ne yazık ki farklı kültürler denince başka şeyler çıkarıyoruz farklı kültürlerin olması doğru ama bunlar zamanla türk kimliği altında birleşmişlerdir umarım anlatabilmişim midir kırıcı konuştuysam da özür dilerim düşüncem bu yöndedir ...
@TrnRptr oyunlar da kültürün bir parçası ama artık bu oyunların tamamı gerek harmandalı gerek horon gerek halay ve diğer adını bilmediğimiz ve türkiye cumhuriyeti sınırları içinde oynanan onlarca oyun türk milletin ve türkiye cumhuriyetinindir ben horon vuran bir çok egeli halay çeken bi çok karadenizli gördüm asıl dar görüşlülük o oyun senin bu oyun benim diyerek farklı kültürlere bölünmenin eşiğine gelmek türkiye hiç bi zaman çok kültürlü bi devlet olmadı
sizin ekibiniz hangi ekip söyleye bilirmisin ok bu avrupadaki ekiblerin cogu bu tarz niyee diye sorarsan benim adresimi al yazisalim ok m i n i k o m @ h o t m a i l . d e
This is a turkish AKCAABAT HORON- dance not greek pontus or whatever!!!!!, Its turkish and its not that turks has taken this dance culture from greeks . This video is a dance video its not about pontos rumi, religons, history or politics. So stop nagging that everything comes from you and everybody is taken from you like you own this world. This talk just make one sick and tired
Go and read something about these ortodox turkish. They were deported as they were not muslim. of course that was stupid. Many greek became muslim during ottoman period because of the tax advantages. You also deported these people with greek orijin as they were muslim during exchange of people in 1920's. It does not matter we have several descendats. that is our richness. we are not faschist as some of you. We are proud of being such a rich culture. that s what we are. The TURK...
@ahmet22471 onceLikLe horon vuruLmaz, oynanIr veya ediLir (Horon etmek, horon oynamak).. Ben burda kuLturun birLestiriciLigine vurgu yaptIm ama sen bu vurgunun boLucuLuge goturecegini ima ediyorsun.. Senin aLgIn benim gorusumu degistirmez tabi.
and at last but not least please give upe the idea that all people in anatolia before turks were all greek. that s stupit. Turkish came to anatolia in several periods. not only one thousands ago. Before that time turks also used to came here such as iskits and also little groups. these people were not muslim and they all become ortodox cristian. Today you think they were greek. They were called "rum" means Roma. and some of them assimilated as the national identitiy were not very strong.
ALSO, if you want to see cultural interaction, you should look at your zeybetiko. And please go and learn what Zeybek is. You have a good historry. Aristo, platon, socrat and etc contributed extremely richness to human thinking. You do not have to belittle other culture in order to be honorable. We do not also need your approval or idiot humiliation trying in order to get what or who we are. We have also a great history too. that is a kinda useless triying man. give it up...
i saw this at my school last semester! my friends and i were in our club meeting and all of a sudden we heard shouting! we checked to see what was going on and found a man and his two sons i think stomping and shouting just like this! we were so confused, but they were performing for our international festival. it's nice to finally understand what was going on! thanks for the post
Aferin size aslanlar! Muhteşemsiniz! Ayaklarınıza yüreklerinize sağlık!
cok süper oynuyolar vallah süpersiniz !
lazusaq61 sagol cok tsk ediyorum yorumun icin ama yinede onlarda sonucda karadenizi temsil eden arkadaslarimiz bence hersey güzeldi onlarda ozaman yeniydiler bukadar yine iyi oynadilar.
ben orda kemence calan.
kemenceyi begendin icin tekrar tsk ediyorum.
saygilar kemenceci Aydin Akyol
very nice dance,i am pondian love kemence,whatever everyone believes this dance is,I loveee it.
Greetings From Yunanistan!
Ekidi pondioi perishanides
kemençeci ellerine sağlıkkkkkk
SUPER !!! Cok guzel.
For all our Turkish brothers, see also the Greek Kemence (Lyra) and dance PENTOZALIS from Girit.
Akçaabatım eyyy gidi günlerim...Ömür cemil karali
uyyy uyyy!!!! kemence'nize kurban olayim daaa uuyyyyy!!!!! -52-
HELAL OLSUN!!!
yes it is a greek word. you also dance "tsiftetelli" the word means double stringed in turkish,"hasapiko", kasap means butcher in turkish" and etc. etc. we lived together at least for 1000 years. it's very normal.
Eyy Turkiyem beee
usaklr helal olsun size
ey oynaduz
ula helal olsun size
bence zannediyorum ilk okulda ögrenmişler oynamayı şimdide hatırladıkları kadarları ile oynuyorlar böyle düşündügümüz zaman gayet başarılı tebrik ediyorum :D
@progonolatreia ...... And i am glad to see that the greek Horon is preserved and danced by turks too. No matter what, no matter how, the moslim pontians consider themselves "turks". The fact that they once were greek speaking rumi(that would make them "greeks' today), just raises feelings of affection and not hatred towards them...
tek kelime HARIKA iste horon dedin budur !
haha
ich schließe mich dem kommentar von DeejayNeloBerlin an, weil ich auch in seiner tanzgruppe bin :P
bencede dahi iyi oynamaniz lazim
und die komuts sind wirklich komisch :P xD
und es fehlt irgendwie die lust zum tanzen irgendwie ohne elan anlatabilirsem :P
jungs übung macht den meister macht einfach weiter belki irgendwann bizim gibi olacaksiniz :P
hehe :D
Aaaaaaa ich war auch daaa das waaar hammmaaaaa....
arkadaslar ayaginiza saglik kulturumuzu yassattiginiz icin ayrica saul ama Akcaabat horonu boyle oynanmaz figurleri tam iyi yapamiyonuz akcaabat durusu yok.
uyyyy
bende horon tepmek istiyorum yaaaaa
slm süpersiniz genceler böyle devam ....
haaaaa diceksiniz sen kimsin ben orda kemence calan Aydin... heheheehehehe
Totally Hellenic...Keep it up brothers!
varmi horondan ötesii
YOK!!
Yikmislar ha !! Helal olsun..
As you all see the culture of the black sea (pontos/karadeniz) people is one. The fashion of nations had to divide them in Turks (the moslim ones) and Greeks (the christian ones)... and the pain started... simple as that brothers...
@TrnRptr sen de farklı bi değişikmişsin karadeniz ne zaman ülke oldu ki bunu yazdın sen buraya ...
ha haydi usagim ha uyyyy ha uyyyy
just made research about kemence,you can see kemence in china,in kazakhstan,in uzbekstan and Turk belong to that family.
if you say "kemence is greek" people may laugh at you.and i politely remind you pontian and Turkic people lived almost 800 year side by side,search "culture alliance"
MY dear greek friends, even you are right about greek orijin of people in blacksea it does not matter. you look at the issue from wrong side. yes we turks descend from many public from anatolia and also central asia. We do not regret that as you always regret that some of you have also turkish orijin. Millions of turkish came from anatolia used to speak and write turkish by using greek alphabets which we say KAraman Turks. The only difference was their religion. Ortodox Turkish...
true
@mahonieneslihan ich persönlich habe die Kommentar nicht Geschrieben ,es tut mir leit ,mein pc ist ohne meines Wiesens benutzt worden. Persönlich ist mir egal wer wie Tanzt ,das ist jedem überlasen wie er Tanzt , ich mache darüber keine ab felligen Bemerkungen OK .
@EDANAiRoNY :-))) good answer! I agree with you
this dance is not turkish..is greek.
bi ekip bukadarmi hata yapar akcaabat horonunda be
@progonolatreia @progonolatreia
to start with, i am against any aggressive attitude towards cultures, nations, peoples. But yes, just the fact that the word "horon" is greek, indicates a lot. The word is still there, simply because the now "turks" of Pontos, were once rumi, who became turks, just because they were converted into moslims. The fact also my friend, is, that religion was all that mattered then,to have the distinction between greeks and turks. Not the origin, not the race...
@DeejayNeloBerlin
hahahah nedemek ben nerdim ciktim haha :D
1000 years? get real anyways
ZORUNA GİDENİN BORUSUNA GİTSİN.RUMLAR'I DENİZE DÖKTÜK.İSKENDER BU SEFER MÜSLÜMAN DOĞULUYA YENİLDİ.TARİH BUNU YAZAR.
@TrnRptr ben tam olarak ifade edemedim sanırım kusuruma bakma demek istediğim şu bu ülkede evet birden çok kültür var buraya kadar doğru ama insanların etnik kökeninin zamanla türkleşmesi gibi oyunları da bütün olmuştur zaman içerisinde ben sadece şunu demeye çalışıyorum belli bir yöreye ait oyunun sadece o yöre insanından başka hiç bir yörede oynanamıyacağı düşüncesi saçmalıktır benim için bu gün bir egelinin halay dendiğinde bırak onu harmandalına bak demek üzücü bir durum
I am very sure of something and its that Turkish they don't have anything of there own.
yani yöre oyunun dışarda adeta bir yasakmış düşüncesinin aşılanması can sıkar yoksa oyunların kökenlerine bir şey demem yalnız bir durum daha var biz toplum olarak ne yazık ki farklı kültürler denince başka şeyler çıkarıyoruz farklı kültürlerin olması doğru ama bunlar zamanla türk kimliği altında birleşmişlerdir umarım anlatabilmişim midir kırıcı konuştuysam da özür dilerim düşüncem bu yöndedir ...
@DeejayNeloBerlin
hahaha aynen lass machen :D
@TrnRptr oyunlar da kültürün bir parçası ama artık bu oyunların tamamı gerek harmandalı gerek horon gerek halay ve diğer adını bilmediğimiz ve türkiye cumhuriyeti sınırları içinde oynanan onlarca oyun türk milletin ve türkiye cumhuriyetinindir ben horon vuran bir çok egeli halay çeken bi çok karadenizli gördüm asıl dar görüşlülük o oyun senin bu oyun benim diyerek farklı kültürlere bölünmenin eşiğine gelmek türkiye hiç bi zaman çok kültürlü bi devlet olmadı
sizin ekibiniz hangi ekip söyleye bilirmisin ok bu avrupadaki ekiblerin cogu bu tarz niyee diye sorarsan benim adresimi al yazisalim ok m i n i k o m @ h o t m a i l . d e
mostly Laz? Samsun to Zonguldak are mostly Pontian people! Hemsin region Ordu,Trabizon, Rize are Ermeni! Artvin to Rize are Laz!
This is a turkish AKCAABAT HORON- dance not greek pontus or whatever!!!!!, Its turkish and its not that turks has taken this dance culture from greeks . This video is a dance video its not about pontos rumi, religons, history or politics. So stop nagging that everything comes from you and everybody is taken from you like you own this world. This talk just make one sick and tired
@progonolatreia yeah yeah yeah
u kicked greeks but u kept the dance
Go and read something about these ortodox turkish. They were deported as they were not muslim. of course that was stupid. Many greek became muslim during ottoman period because of the tax advantages. You also deported these people with greek orijin as they were muslim during exchange of people in 1920's. It does not matter we have several descendats. that is our richness. we are not faschist as some of you. We are proud of being such a rich culture. that s what we are. The TURK...
@ahmet22471 onceLikLe horon vuruLmaz, oynanIr veya ediLir (Horon etmek, horon oynamak)..
Ben burda kuLturun birLestiriciLigine vurgu yaptIm ama sen bu vurgunun boLucuLuge goturecegini ima ediyorsun.. Senin aLgIn benim gorusumu degistirmez tabi.
and at last but not least please give upe the idea that all people in anatolia before turks were all greek. that s stupit. Turkish came to anatolia in several periods. not only one thousands ago. Before that time turks also used to came here such as iskits and also little groups. these people were not muslim and they all become ortodox cristian. Today you think they were greek. They were called "rum" means Roma. and some of them assimilated as the national identitiy were not very strong.
masturbation is self-destruction my friend.
ALSO, if you want to see cultural interaction, you should look at your zeybetiko. And please go and learn what Zeybek is. You have a good historry. Aristo, platon, socrat and etc contributed extremely richness to human thinking. You do not have to belittle other culture in order to be honorable. We do not also need your approval or idiot humiliation trying in order to get what or who we are. We have also a great history too. that is a kinda useless triying man. give it up...
MHP cCc BOZKURT cCc MHP
horon is a greek word , get real people , lets share culture but dont say shit