nono they started in russia. northern russia was most definetly rus, in the region around ladoga, thats "old rus" kiev is "new rus". staraya ladoga (aldeigjuborg) was estabilshed around 750 and novgorod(holmgarðr) settled in 862 . kiev was not conquered until 882. sorry my friend but you will just have to share the rus legacy with the russians.
"And Novgorod were build by Swedes as a fortification in the beginning, but quickly becomed a rich trading town." They came as violent raiders, But learned that there were more to earn by buold up the towns instead of Burning them down, The close contacts with Byzantium Empire brought home much wealth.
@sotkag There are also Carpatho Rus. There are lots of Rus in the Presov region of Slovakia where my people come from. Some years ago I sent a guy there a Christmas salutation in what I thought was Slovak. He told me it was Rus. So my ancestors were probably Rus and I thought they were Slovak.They probably migrated there around what they call the Viking age for land.
"The Rus' (Slavic: Русь, Swedish: Rus, Greek: Ῥῶς) were a group of Varangians (according to the so-called Normanist theory, these were Vikings, predominantly from the modern-day area of Sweden)"
@norb1937 Well, we had Danish Kings, but not Norwegian (though they were also kings of Norway). And the Vikings also founded Dublin in the first place.
@SomeRandomDude00 And one more thing disturbing me, I cant find any info about "vikings built your shitty towns" on historic sites, no fuckin word about it
@1488Dog Vikings moved into whats now England and merged with the people there. England once had a Norwegian king. The Vikings also burned Dublin and carried off women several times.
It was Swedish Vikings who created the Trading organisation Kievan Rus, The Swedes builded Kiev and Novgorod, We remained as Lords over the Slavs for a loong time. The Varangians.
the intelligence of a slav.. Swedish vikings ent in to Russia before the Varangian era. We created Kievan Rus, We build up Kiev from a litle town to a strong trading town. U have read to much in ur History books from the Communist era. And Novgorod were build by Swedes as a fortification in the beginning, but quickly becomed a rich trading town.
Thoose Names are from Swedish Viking names. And why im dividing slavs from Vikings? Quite easy, Because the Vikings raided ur people and took them as slaves to trade in the East.
"He conquered Khazars and Bulgars with sword and flame" (Svjatoslav)
He knew who was the threat to our world! SLAVA!
nono they started in russia. northern russia was most definetly rus, in the region around ladoga, thats "old rus" kiev is "new rus". staraya ladoga (aldeigjuborg) was estabilshed around 750 and novgorod(holmgarðr) settled in 862 . kiev was not conquered until 882. sorry my friend but you will just have to share the rus legacy with the russians.
"And Novgorod were build by Swedes as a fortification in the beginning, but quickly becomed a rich trading town."
They came as violent raiders, But learned that there were more to earn by buold up the towns instead of Burning them down, The close contacts with Byzantium Empire brought home much wealth.
@sotkag There are also Carpatho Rus. There are lots of Rus in the Presov region of Slovakia where my people come from. Some years ago I sent a guy there a Christmas salutation in what I thought was Slovak. He told me it was Rus. So my ancestors were probably Rus and I thought they were Slovak.They probably migrated there around what they call the Viking age for land.
"The Rus' (Slavic: Русь, Swedish: Rus, Greek: Ῥῶς) were a group of Varangians (according to the so-called Normanist theory, these were Vikings, predominantly from the modern-day area of Sweden)"
spot on^^
@joonte1010
Kiev known since 862
Novgorod - 859
Stockholm - 1252
LOL
It was Finland who asked for ceasefire in 1944 and it was Sweden who surrendered nazis without a battle. Learn history, guys.
Because the name of Sweden back then, amongs the slavs were Routsi,rus,Rootsi.
Finland and Estonia still call Sweden Ruotsi ^^
Are the Varangian Guard and the Rus the same thing?
@norb1937 Well, we had Danish Kings, but not Norwegian (though they were also kings of Norway). And the Vikings also founded Dublin in the first place.
Perfect.
@immortalx50 Books based on archaeological findings and Ancient texts about the subject.
they camed from a place called "Roslagen" in Sweden.
@1488Dog Why to you call them shitty? Dont you like they style of the buildings?
@sotkag Alexander Nevsky might have been Kiev Rus.
@SomeRandomDude00
And one more thing disturbing me, I cant find any info about "vikings built your shitty towns" on historic sites, no fuckin word about it
@joonte1010 ))))))) great!))))
@SomeRandomDude00
I just wonder why Russia not Sweden)))
I only listening to Viking Rock, And Viking Metal.
And offcourse Ultima Thule ^^
@1488Dog Vikings moved into whats now England and merged with the people there. England once had a Norwegian king. The Vikings also burned Dublin and carried off women several times.
@norb1937
Its not my words. you should read all discussion.
@joonte1010
"U have read to much in ur History books from the Communist era."
What books have you read?
@joonte1010
Country without towns)))
@1488Dog Sweden = Sverige = Svea Rike = Svithiod
Has excisted way longer then Kiev and Novgorod Swedish Vikings established.
LOL
are you from Ukraine? :)
It was Swedish Vikings who created the Trading organisation Kievan Rus, The Swedes builded Kiev and Novgorod, We remained as Lords over the Slavs for a loong time. The Varangians.
@KirunaKlasse 1. russians is an english word for the rus! use your brain litle bit!
has nothing to do with etimology of the word!
maybe you'll say that only ucraininians are descendants of the Ariy? ;)
are you serious?? )))))))))))))
Yeah, I'm Serious.
@joonte1010 we didnt invented communism...in fact what you are communism was dictatorship!
the intelligence of a slav..
Swedish vikings ent in to Russia before the Varangian era. We created Kievan Rus, We build up Kiev from a litle town to a strong trading town.
U have read to much in ur History books from the Communist era.
And Novgorod were build by Swedes as a fortification in the beginning, but quickly becomed a rich trading town.
I am Ukrainian and I am proud of it! Glory to Ukraine! Kiev was capital of Rus and it is capital of Ukraine.
Русские есть?
На месте
@@nord_regent1821 Хорош)
Thoose Names are from Swedish Viking names.
And why im dividing slavs from Vikings? Quite easy, Because the Vikings raided ur people and took them as slaves to trade in the East.
dimmu Borgir is "Devil" Music, Anti Jesus Music.. Dont like that kind of Music..Nothing to do with Vikings.